DAVIS WAS REFERRING TO BRONCOS' CAP VIOLATIONS

Several readers have asked us to explain the basis for the contention of Raiders owner Al Davis that Broncos coach Mike Shanahan should have asterisks next to the Super Bowl victories that capped the 1997 and 1998 seasons “because they were caught cheating.”
Davis was talking about Denver’s proven salary cap violations.
In December 2001, the league imposed an oddly-specific fine of $968,000 and stripped the Broncos of a third-round pick in the 2002 draft.  The punishment arose from cap violations relating to $29 million in deferred payments to quarterback John Elway and running back Terrell Davis.
 In September 2004, the NFL hit the Broncos again for $950,000 and a third-round pick in the 2005 draft.  These sanctions related to cap violations occurring between 1996 and 1998.
Wrote Mark Maske of the Washington Post at the time:  “The penalties could be viewed as further vindication for Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis, who has said in the past that Broncos owner Pat Bowlen should be suspended for salary cap violations.  Davis has contended that the Broncos’ circumvention of the salary cap helped them win the Super Bowl in the 1997 and ’98 seasons.”

36 responses to “DAVIS WAS REFERRING TO BRONCOS' CAP VIOLATIONS

  1. What a baby.
    I actually think what helped us when back-to-backs were the refs. They blew every call in every game and they just totally lucked out. They should have been 2-14 both years but the referees, especailly Hochuli, handed them win after win.
    Al Davis really is a small, small man.

  2. Does anyone else think he is off his rocker? This 79-year old knows more about football than any of you idiots who take shots at him. He still is a visionary, and even won Florio over yesterday (which I didn’t think would ever happen). He knows the in-and outs of both business and football than ANYONE in the league. It’s time you all recognize that.

  3. I wish PFT and Al Davis would acknowledge the fact that the deferred payments were not cheating…..the players in question were on the books for their full salary cap number but money was tight with the new stadium and they offered to just not take their salary then. They did not gain a competitive advantage…IE the Patriots videotaping signals.

  4. I don’t get it where is all the anti cheating fans that don’t put up with cheating? Or do theyonly jump on the Patriots? Huh.

  5. I just love the everybody does it defense. I heard that from some of the Patriots fans during Spygate, and now I am hearing it from Broncos fans about cap violations.
    This is absolutely hilarious. You do realize that the everybody does it defense is no defense at all. You do realize that you guys come off IMO as nothing more than homeristic fools.
    I hope I see the day that every fan holds their favorite team to the same standards as the other teams in the league. I am not holding my breath. That would take a level maturity that IMO, most people don’t have.

  6. filbertkiwi71
    videotaping defensive signals and deferring payments to a player who is on the cap for their entire money is two totally seperate things
    in no way did the broncos gain a competitive ON THE FIELD advantage-however the patriots did by taping defensive signals. I could care less about front offices and money what goes where, when you start screwing with the integrity of the gain by cheating in the way the patriots that makes it not even a close comparison

  7. They lost two third round draft picks BUT it didn’t give them a competetive advantage on the field? ND Bronco, wake up & lets not forget they were also accused about videotaping Chargers practices.

  8. “I just love the everybody does it defense. I heard that from some of the Patriots fans during Spygate, and now I am hearing it from Broncos fans about cap violations.
    This is absolutely hilarious. You do realize that the everybody does it defense is no defense at all. You do realize that you guys come off IMO as nothing more than homeristic fools.
    I hope I see the day that every fan holds their favorite team to the same standards as the other teams in the league. I am not holding my breath. That would take a level maturity that IMO, most people don’t have.”
    Everyone does isn’t a defense, but it is a valid argument. Everyone doesn’t cheat, but a lot more do than people are willing to admit. But if you get caught cheating doing something a lot of other people do, it isn’t an excuse to deflect blame.
    A lot of people cheat their taxes (how many people claim the charity deduction level that doesn’t require proof when they haven’t donated a dime?), but if you get audited and found cheating it isn’t a defense you can use in court.
    If a team or player gets caught cheating they should be punished. It doesn’t mean people should stick their heads in the sand and think that no one else cheats in sports. Look at baseball and it’s stats since they decided not to look the other way with cheating by using steriods. I just don’t think people should take the moral high ground unless they are absolutely sure their team isn’t cheating in any way and never have. I don’t think there is anyone who can be 100% sure.

  9. right, no competitive advantage at all. if they have more cap space that frees up money to sign players that are paid more and therefore are presumably better. but having better players that they shouldn’t be able to afford is NOT a competitive advantage. if you cry about the Pats, I want to hear you cry just as loud about the Broncos.

  10. “videotaping defensive signals and deferring payments to a player who is on the cap for their entire money is two totally seperate things
    in no way did the broncos gain a competitive ON THE FIELD advantage-however the patriots did by taping defensive signals. I could care less about front offices and money what goes where, when you start screwing with the integrity of the gain by cheating in the way the patriots that makes it not even a close comparison”
    So if the deferred payments to Elway and Terrel Davis that allowed them cap room to resign/sign someone who ended up helping them on the field, the Broncos didn’t gain a competitive advange on the field? Really? You don’t think extra cap space during a time where most teams had problems staying under the cap would give them a competitive advantage.
    Whether the intent was that or not, it did give them a competitive advantage and it did violate the rules.
    The thing is they were not the only ones during that era to get caught/accused of cap violations. The 49ers were penalized for cheating the cap and accused of cheating the cap in another instance with Deion Sanders because he had deal offers with Sega and Nike which required him to play for the 49ers to get the deal. The Dolphins were accused of cheating the cap because Wayne Heizinga gave Marino a sweetheart stock option deal with one of his companies that netted Marino several hunderd thousand dollars profit in less than a year. So I don’t know if I buy the Broncos’ explaination especially since they got a pretty steep penalty at the time in an era where the league looked the other way about pretty much everything.

  11. Hey raiderguy10,
    Ever heard of a guy named Florio the Facetious?
    “Won him over”? Don’t count on it. Stick with your first “I didn’t think that would happen” gut instinct. It’s usually right.

  12. Isn’t Avis guilty of cheating too? He lost a lawsuit Shanahan filed to reclaim un-paid wages from his contract whenShanahan was fired and has never paid up. I get the feeling Kiffin is headed in the same direction.

  13. nd bronco and others who defended the Broncos…you are absolutely WRONG! If you think the deferred salaries didn’t help the Broncos on the field then you are wearing the same rose colored glasses as the other homers. If you can’t defer the payments then you can’t afford the roster for that season. Which means someone has to go…McAffrey, or Sharpe, or pick anyone. Stop defending and take your seat right next to the 49ers and the Patriots. You pathetic apologists.

  14. Sure, the Patriots are the all-time cheaters, but are the Denver Broncos far behind? Al might be Howard Hughes, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong on this one.

  15. @ filbertkiwi71
    I am not a Broncos fan and I don’t see what the big deal is. So they cheated, who cares. If you think that everybody doesn’t cheat in some way then you are naive and don’t understand that Football is a business first and a sport second.
    And nd Bronco, they did get an advantage, but who cares they won because of talent just like the pats, anyone who says otherwise is retarded.

  16. “I wish PFT and Al Davis would acknowledge the fact that the deferred payments were not cheating…..the players in question were on the books for their full salary cap number but money was tight with the new stadium and they offered to just not take their salary then. They did not gain a competitive advantage…IE the Patriots videotaping signals.”
    Well that is Pat Bowlens’ story, but the league refused to say either way if the Broncos got an advantage. That and their actions of fining the Broncos a little under a million dollars and a third round draft pick leads me to believe that they did. Especially when the 49ers were also penalized for a clear intent to cheat salary cap around that time and got a much lesser penalty.

  17. ndbroncofan, you’re dillusional if you don’t think that’s a “competitive advantage”, really it’s the same as the Pats taping signals. So you like to harp on the Pats for it but then dismiss your own cheating as “it’s no advantage”. I’ll point to EVERYBODY’S counter-point in the Pats thing “Well if it wasn’t cheating – why did they get punished (twice in this case)?”
    (Note before you even bother: The Pats cheated. I know that.)

  18. Everybody cheats in some way, why does nobody get this. Jimmie Johnson said so, Jon Gruden said so, get off your high horses and sit along with us cheaters.

  19. 29 Million would have been roughly 1/3rd of the salary cap. If the Broncos had 17 less players (to comply with the cap.) on the team would they have still won the Super Bowls? At least the Pats had to spend countless hours breaking down film to even slightly desifer what the signals may have meant. 17 players is a lot of depth that should have been on a different roster. Cheating is cheating I took my medicine, you take yours. Broncos**

  20. You guys are hilarious, when Pats fans brought up the “cheating” of the Broncos during Denver’s SB run, it was dismissed. Now that Al Davis brings it up, and Florio puts it on the site, all of you are all over it. When did Florio become god?
    Anyways, to put the Broncos thing into perspective, essentially, they paid a few players under the table. So you could argue that the Broncos had “ineligible” players on the field, which is a tangible advantage on the field. I thought is was pretty innovative to be honest. In college, temas have to forfeit in this situation. If Reggie Bush is deemed ineligible at USC, they will have to give back their trophies, it has happened before, if the NFL was like college sports, Denver would have had to give up their trophies, but the NFL is a business, it doesnt operate that way.
    But Spygate is the best. Especially if you actually put time constraints onto it. Think about it this way. There is a 40 second play clock (25 seconds in some situations). Those that believe it was a huge advantage to tape signals, actually believe this: After the play, the clock resets to 40, and the videographer begins taping the opposing coaches’ signals. When the signals stop, there is about 32 seconds left on the play clock. He then goes over to his coaching staff, shows the coaches the signals, there is now 20 seconds left on the play clock, they decipher the signals, and call a play into Brady’s helmet. Now there is 13 seconds left on the play clock, Brady gives the play to his team mates, they break the huddle, and get into formation, there is now 2 seconds left on the play clock. Then Brady calls out his cadence, identifies the Mike Linebacker, says Omaha 2-3 times (he always says that, lol), sends Welker in motion, and takes the snap from the center. Now, I am willing to bet they are going to get a delay of game penalty. But for the anti New England crowd, there is a belief that NE did that, on every offensive play, no seriously, hahahahaha

  21. “Everybody cheats in some way, why does nobody get this. Jimmie Johnson said so, Jon Gruden said so, get off your high horses and sit along with us cheaters.”
    I don’t think everyone cheats, but I do agree it is far more rampant than people are willing to admit. For the same reason players take steriods, coaches are under huge pressure to keep multimillion dollars a year jobs. To think at least a decent percentage do not cheat to gain competitive advantages, is crazy. They may not pay off refs or something as that nature, but things like videotaping signals was probably far more common than people want to admit (Both Peter King and Adam Schefter estimated based on their intelligence that up to a third of the league were doing it).

  22. This is ridiculous. People are saying the Broncos didn’t gain a competitive advantage on the field, but I’m sure that there are no players in the NFL that are making half of those delayed payments that are impact players….right. And Lane Kiffin will be a life-long Raiders fan.

  23. MADD Al is up to it again! Sour grapes. Does anyone else believe he needs to be put out to pasture? He and Shanny have been at it for years and it will not end anytime soon.

  24. Does the fact that the Broncos were fined a total of $1,918,000 make them “bigger cheaters” than the Patriots?

  25. didnt al used to bug the other team’s locker room in alameda county coliseum?
    raiders were infamous for playing dirty back in their heyday.
    he is a fine one to talk.

  26. I,for one, do not distinguish between what the Broncos and the Patriots did, they both cheated, they both got caught at cheating and they both lost draft picks. The only thing that made the Patriots sins worse were the fact Bellicheat insulted everyone’s intellingence with his lame excuse. Bellicheat, even when confronted with the evidence of his cheating, tries to say it wasn’t. That’s sad and a real insight into his lack of a moral compass.

  27. Just to add, the penalty for such a salary cap violation had already been set before the Broncos got caught. (I think it was something involving the Vikings, but I’m not 100%. Apologies to the Vikes if I have unfairly dragged them into this.)
    Anyway, whatever the earlier situation was, it wasn’t nearly as blatant as what Denver did. But the league basically said that even though the punishment Denver got was weak, the precident had already been set with the previously established punishment.

  28. Those of you who rip Al Davis are idiots who dont know the history of football. This guy is a genius. I am not a Raiders fan, but admire the way that Al has changed the game. In the 60s and 70s Al was the greatest mind in the game and continually had the best teams every year. The Raiders were in the Super Bowl only a couple of years ago. You cant say that about more than 85% of the teams. When was the last time Dallas was there??? How bout Miami, Minnesota, Kansas City, St. Louis, Washington etc…. Maybe he made some bad choices over the past few years. But at least he still wants to win. Changing coaches over and over is not good, obviously. But he is not going to keep a guy that he feels is unqualified just for the sake of stability. They Raiders have a team on the rise and are not as far away from winning as many think

  29. elway is a classless pig. first he refuses to play for the team that was going to draft him then he gets caught cheating the cap. donkeys are a dirty team that deserve all the bashing they get. I hope they investigate them for the past few years. I doubt it would be hard to find violations with that horsetooth jackass in charge.
    * for both superbowls.

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