Comments on: BROWNS SUSPEND KELLEN WINSLOW

By: DawgPounderJ

DawgPounderJ — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:37:35 +0000

Now there is something upon which we all can agree!

By: getofftheschneid

getofftheschneid — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:30:38 +0000

I think it’s all Art Modell’s fault

By: NoWearMan

NoWearMan — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:11:10 +0000

Listen, winslow and his old man were up in arms about trying to keep kellens medical condition private when he wrecked his motorcycle. Now the browns keep quiet and this is how the winslows react??
I think that the winslow camp wanted to keep this shit on the downlow, but when rumors started about STD’s, he pulls this crap.
Why would the browns want to keep this hush hush? their staph issues are well documented, i dont think one more case would be a reason to keep it under wraps.
I also think that the browns would like to call out kellen as a lying sack of shit, but that will hurt his trade value in the offseason.
oh, and i would suggest doing a little research on how each of these staph infections occured before assuming that they all were contracted at the browns facilities. a little background might go a long way in making some of you commenters look less ignorant.

By: getofftheschneid

getofftheschneid — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 10:05:11 +0000

@ jfiling:
Thanks for the article…and I totally respect T. Withers at the AP.
With that, I am still not convinced that the Browns are confirming that he actually had staph. There are not any quotes in the article about it…it just states that Romeo apparently confirmed it. It’s a point against my theory but I am still not convinced.
As for a player being in and out of the hospital in 3 days, if you say it is possible and has happened, I am not going to argue. My concern is that once someone contracts staph, they are more likely to get it again. Of the professionals that I have talked to about this, it is very unlikely that he had staph if he was only there 3 days. I still think that there is a lot more to this story.

By: Ammo

Ammo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:33:20 +0000

Winslow was NOT suspended for saying he had staph.
The bottom line is we don’t know if he has staph or not because the Browns front office can NOT confirm what Winslow truly had due to his medical records being private.
I don’t have an in with the Browns organization, but the word I’ve been reading on various sites is that this situation is not as cut and dry as many of the readers making comments are making it out to be.
This is mostly a contract issue. The Browns were looking to deal Winslow but the fact that he was in the hospital meant they couldn’t get the value they were looking for.
Winslow may or may not have had staph, he may or may not have had elephantitis. We don’t know, we probably never will know. But it’s typical Rosenhaus client BS…player wants new contract, player bitches for new contract by becoming team cancer. Don’t immediately fault the Browns here.

By: Ammo

Ammo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:17:59 +0000

As a Browns fan, I’m ok with this. I wouldn’t mind Winslow being traded either.
He’s NOT getting the separation he did last year. Plus, he doesn’t know where to line up. Last year Jurevicius had to tell him where to line up and this year Donte Stallworth took over that job.
If you’re that dumb to not know where to line up, you shouldn’t play.

By: backacre

backacre — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:41:18 +0000

getofftheschneid…RE: **stop**
You don’t know what you are talking about. My son had MRSA in hi left arm from a small cut that was infected and he was in the hospital for 3 days and released. Once the doctors find an antibiotic that your body accepts, and it begins to work on the staph, they release you with medication. Winslow did not have any type of surgery lately (shocking) so he could have had MRSA anywhere from a scratch, scab, or cut. The Browns need to look elsewhere for the problem…maybe the practice fields…chemicals put on the grass or turf. This team is a mess right now. Time for Romeo to go the way of the eight track and take Anderson with him.

By: Philtration

Philtration — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:40:10 +0000

Hope the Cowboys pick him up real soon!

By: MmmHmmm

MmmHmmm — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 22:24:18 +0000

This league has turned in to a bunch of cry-babies who can’t take criticism. Get your thumb out of your mouth Savage. While you’re at it, tell Goodell to quit whining too. If there is a criticism, fix the issue, don’t kill the messenger.

By: jollyoldman

jollyoldman — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:42:28 +0000

Hey jfiling,
You beat me to the punch on the article link!
I wonder if Romeo will get suspended for confirming it was staph? Wouldn’t that be “conduct detrimental to the team”?

By: vegas42

vegas42 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:25:00 +0000

nofun…didn’t the Browns have at least two staph infections before Winslow? Anyone?

By: jfiling

jfiling — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:15:22 +0000

Hey getofftheschneid, Obviously you missed where the Browns admitted that K2 was dealing with staph. http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-browns-winslow&prov=ap&type=lgns Try knowing the facts before posting next time.

By: mrmagoo

mrmagoo — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:10:53 +0000

I never thought I’d side with the ‘Soldier’ but I do here. He was complaining that he never heard from Savage, I wonder if this was face to face.

By: DawgPounderJ

DawgPounderJ — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:54:56 +0000

I have to side with getofftheschneid on this one.
Initially, I was on Kellen’s side. But this just doesn’t make sense. Savage and Crennel are on the hot seat right now with the 2-4 start. Would they really suspend one of their most talented players, and subject themselves to a harsh review by the player’s association, if there wasn’t more to this story?
I don’t know if Kellen made up the story about staph. But one thing is for sure: If it wasn’t true and the Browns tried to deny it, no one would believe them.
Either way, according to the statement from Savage, they agreed not to discuss the situation. Kellen did anyway, and brought a lot of selfish and negative attention on the team as a result. That sounds detrimental to me, no matter what.
Plus, here is the kicker and the reason I trust nothing from Kellen anymore: his agent is Drew Rosenhaus. Remember TO and Chad Johnson??? Keep in mind that agents do not get paid on a player’s old contract, only a new one they negotiate. I put absolutely NOTHING past Drew Rosenhaus. Without any “proof” nothing can really be accused. However, a lot of underlying distrust in Kellen and his “representation” influences my opinion.

By: bucky

bucky — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:32:41 +0000

nice facility browns. who the heck would suspend a player for this? just goes to show you what lengths some will go to to hide their dirty secrets. no one will want to sign with cleveland after this…both the staph & the treatment of winslow

By: leit64

leit64 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:30:41 +0000

wow, first joe the plumber gets the stalin treatmernt, now winslow gets it…. savage knows how to attract the free agents: come get staph, and we will suspend ya for bitchin’

By: nofunleague25

nofunleague25 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:18:31 +0000

People, they quartined the training facility 18 months ago the first time this happened. Winslow feels like a piece of meat? It’s all a contrct ploy. He had a chip on shoulder in training camp when they wouldn’t extend his contract which doesn’t expore until after 2010. They also allow ‘Evil Kenievil’ Winslow to earn back vitually all his contract money after his stunt biking career ended…but he feels under appreiciated. Throw your GM under the bus for respecting your right to privacy. Buy a bar of soap with all that cash, and when you get back on the field, learn to lay a block!

By: docsaunter

docsaunter — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:06:24 +0000

I have always thought that if they kept a stats for biggest waste of talent and number of times your mouth has gotten you in trouble that Kellen Winslow would be a pro bowler. However getting suspended for speaking out on a real issue would be really petty.
Florio, any idea if Winslow’s contract has any performance/participation escalators in it that the team could avoid by having him out for a game?

By: getofftheschneid

getofftheschneid — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:04:35 +0000

**stop!**
I have been around athletic trainers and paramedics for the past 15 years. They have all said that it is nearly impossible for someone to have staph and be released in 3 days. No hospital in their right mind would release someone that soon, in that condition.
Personally, I think that K2 never had staph and actually had something else…something embarrassing, like grapefruits. He probably just said staph since it was the first thing he thought of, he was mad they lost, and knew it would take the focus away from his real issue. I think the Browns suspended him b/c he brought up staph again and it wasn’t true…making the team and organization look worse. What if the Browns were trying to protect him and he “blowed” it? We will probably never know now b/c of HIPPA and that no one will admit it now. What a disaster.
Who knows…maybe this is just some ploy by his sweet agent, Mr. Rosenhaus.

By: promichael

promichael — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:01:35 +0000

I disagree with favrefromover who wrote that Bret Favre had
something to do with negative remarks made about the Browns.
It was Bill Parcells of the Miami Dolphins who was the main
catalyst for the negative attention received by the Cleveland
Browns.

By: geeb

geeb — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:57:45 +0000

You cannot tell the truth in Cleveland. It is why I was banned from the Cleveland Plain Dealer Browns blog for admonishing the front office, specifically Phil Savage for his total ineptness as the Brown’s GM. Savage, plus a totally absent buffoonn of an owner is why the football equivalent of why the Titanic is sinking in Cleveland. Winslow simply blew the whistle on the inordinate amount of staph infections Browns’ players have received, and he was given a suspension for going public. Time for an overhaul in Cleveland which translates into Randy Lerner needs to sell the Cleveland Browns to someone with a a real interest in ownership, fire Phil Savage and start over with a bona fide NFL head coach.

By: JOSHCRIBBSFTW

JOSHCRIBBSFTW — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:56:54 +0000

This is garbage.
I side with Kellen on all of this.

By: 26Hawk

26Hawk — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:41:13 +0000

Winslow gone in the off-season? You’d think so.

By: caramello1976

caramello1976 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:28:12 +0000

Hey Florio, do us and the Browns players a favor. Contact Greg Aiello and ask him if a front office can be fined or suspended for having “facilities detrimental to the team”

By: Fade 2 Black

Fade 2 Black — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:20:04 +0000

I guess you would have to say
that it takes big balls
to criticize your employer
publicly like that.
Yuk yuk…..

By: Flint521466

Flint521466 — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:16:05 +0000

The entire Cleveland Browns orgnization is an ABSOLUTE JOKE.

By: PGHDON

PGHDON — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:11:05 +0000

Kellen Winslow is bigger self absorbed jerk than TO or Ocho Cinqo. The only difference is Winslow has never done anything to speak of. I ham a Stiller fan in Browns country and have watched this jerk whine and cry since the day he got here. Did you ever notice is first class dad never shows his face in Cleveland. Because his son is an embaressment to him and his team. Cleveland’s best performance performance of the year was when his ugly ass was not suited up. Watch for the samething against the Jags.

By: alwaysamazed

alwaysamazed — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:10:52 +0000

This guy has been and over rated under producing punk piece of spoiled brat since he entered the league! The Eagles learned their lesson with this crap after TO….he’s really helping the “Boy’s”! Crap like this belongs in the NBA….and take Schocky for the token!

By: JUST WIN BABY

JUST WIN BABY — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 19:07:41 +0000

I think the Cleveland STAFF should be suspended.

By: CleveBrownie

CleveBrownie — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:59:19 +0000

I have always said Cleveland rots from the head down: first, there is the ultra-aloof buffoon who owns the team; secondly, the arrogant toad who manages the team; thirdly, the coach who is too busy eating his way to gigantism to coach. Now, it’s Winslow…next Anderson…next…Quinn’s ass may get off the bench.