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HALL CAN BE HAD CHEAP ON WAIVERS, WITH SOME RISK

As the Raiders prepare to cut cornerback DeAngelo Hall (we hear there’s a 99 percent chance it happens on Wednesday), the question for any team interested in his services is whether to put in a waivers claim, or take their chances on winning a potential bidding war via midseason free agency.
His salary for 2008 is only $1 million; that equates to only $470,588 for a rest-of-year rental.
But there’s a catch.  If Hall suffers a serious injury, that $16 million in unpaid bonus money becomes guaranteed.
So who’d take such a chance?  We can think of one guy who’s pulling out all the stops in an effort to propel his team toward a Super Bowl title.
Jerry Jones, owner of the Cowboys.
Stay tuned.

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58 Responses to “HALL CAN BE HAD CHEAP ON WAIVERS, WITH SOME RISK”
  1. pfitz says: Nov 5, 2008 9:44 AM

    Hall is a cancer who admits he dosent always try so he would be a natural for Jerry Jones to sign..Hall has a big rep that dosent match his play and those are the guys jones loves

  2. ScottieC says: Nov 5, 2008 10:05 AM

    Yea he sucks, so you risk being a worse team by adding him to your roster.

  3. DynastyDriven77 says: Nov 5, 2008 10:05 AM

    No one in thier right mind would take that risk, not even Jerry Jones.

  4. rugburn says: Nov 5, 2008 10:05 AM

    It would make sense that Hall would go to the Cowboys. As a Cowboy hater I hope Jerry “the turd collector” Jones adds another distraction. His collection of misfits has worked out great so far right? right?

  5. bwnyc says: Nov 5, 2008 10:11 AM

    What do you do when the commish takes away your overrated team-cancer cornerback?
    Get another one!

  6. bigfog says: Nov 5, 2008 10:15 AM

    Giant leap of faith you are taking there Florio. A leap based on nothing but one man’s reputation for adding talent.
    Hall hardly qualifies as talent. Beyond that, why add him when Jones may come back later this year?

  7. Spank says: Nov 5, 2008 10:17 AM

    I wouldnt doubt if Snyder doesnt entertain the thought. I dont think he’ll do it, but I’m sure he’ll think about it.
    They are still in the playoff push and they cant keep CB Springs on the field. With 3 division games remaining maybe Snyder thinks Hall can help?
    Speculation of course….

  8. fmfnavydoc says: Nov 5, 2008 10:22 AM

    Jerry Jones + DeAngelo Hall = another quality (?) pick for the Cowboys. Just another ego to throw in a locker room of egos…and a new chapter in that soap opera called “As the Cowboys Turn”

  9. Chief Wahoo says: Nov 5, 2008 10:24 AM

    Stay away Chiefs, stay away.

  10. psyseb says: Nov 5, 2008 10:26 AM

    Four easy steps to rebuilding a franchise:
    1) Cut ties with anyone in the squad who is over 28 and isn’t integral to the team either on or off the field (i.e. is a good player or a good influence).
    2) Try and get as many draft picks for these players as possible, and spend them wisely recruiting intelligent players who are disciplined and likely to stick around in the NFL for a while (i.e. not Pacman Jones).
    3) Filter in a couple of veteran free agents who have the attributes stated in part 1 and preferably who have had a degree of success in their careers (i.e. won things). Only two or three though, as the team should have a young image (nothing excites a fanbase more than a young bunch of guys with potential, and if the fans are excited, the players will be too).
    4) Most importantly of all, hire an experienced head coach who has developped teams before (i.e. has taken them from bad to good) and has been credited with the development of at least one hall-of-famer, from rookie to pro-bowl. It is essential that you keep this coach and his system, even if results don’t come instantly.
    So there you have it. This doesn’t have a whole lot to do with DeAngelo Hall, other than maybe supporting the opinion that the Raiders should keep him (as he’s young), but I’m bored and have assignments to do. Is it just me though, or have Kansas City followed my system pretty well (aside from point number 3 maybe) and are they not starting to come good? Food for thought…

  11. seatofmypants says: Nov 5, 2008 10:27 AM

    As a Giants fan who was interested in him before this season – I would not touch him or that contract with a 10 foot pole.
    The only way to consider him would be for him to clear waivers, and sign him to a minimum contract with little to no sigining bonus.
    Hall has not played like someone worth taking any risk on….
    Besides – forgetting their dysfunction, what sort of message are the Raiders sending out by releasing him 6 months after trading a #2 for him and paying him a rediculous amount of money. If he was getting it done, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

  12. east96st says: Nov 5, 2008 10:29 AM

    Florio – How much cap space do the Boys have for this year? If it’s under $16 mill and Hall does get hurt, what happens to the Boys for going over the cap? Speculation is fine, it is the “rumor” mill after all. But please include some numbers so we can judge how likely the “rumor” is!

  13. jyernberg says: Nov 5, 2008 10:37 AM

    I am sure zygi wilf has about 20million in garaunteed money to throw away on this guy…

  14. TitanPride says: Nov 5, 2008 10:38 AM

    Hall gets 3 phone calls
    call #1 Cowboys
    call #2 Pats
    call #3 Texans
    call #5 Steve Smith just to remind him he still sucks

  15. raiderfan2k4 says: Nov 5, 2008 10:41 AM

    i watched every raider game this year and deangelo hall struggled with every receiver except for derrick mason whos 33, lavarneus coles and whoever the chiefs receivers are beside dwayne bowe. It was probably the wrong move and he was never succesful at pressing and jerry jones should not take a chance on him, hes played exactly like pacman he hasnt been that great

  16. Simdogga77 says: Nov 5, 2008 10:42 AM

    “But there’s a catch. If Hall suffers a serious injury, that $16 million in unpaid bonus money becomes guaranteed.”
    WOW, I want Hall’s agent!

  17. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 10:44 AM

    With Newman set to come back after the bye and Pacman about to get out of rehab, I’m sure he would consider nabbing Hall if he gets that far but that’s because Jerry Jones is always looking to improve his team any way he can, unlike a lot of guys. He always swings for the fence and that leads to a lot of strikeouts, but you’re never gonna get a hit if you never swing. Most are content to bunt or pray for a walk.

  18. Bill In DC says: Nov 5, 2008 10:45 AM

    LOL @ PFT.
    You predict that every FA, no matter who is immediately going to be signed by the Cowboys, regardless of if it is true or not.

  19. WheresSeptien says: Nov 5, 2008 10:50 AM

    Cowboy hate again, u guys are so pathetic……..

  20. boron says: Nov 5, 2008 11:01 AM

    Include AL DAVIS on the cut list
    Just whine, Al!

  21. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 11:04 AM

    “Is it just me though, or have Kansas City followed my system pretty well (aside from point number 3 maybe) and are they not starting to come good?”
    Well… they’re 1-7 and currently on a 4 game losing streak.

  22. blknslvr says: Nov 5, 2008 11:08 AM

    Rob Ryan, Greg Knapp & Al Davis should also be cut.

  23. radrntn says: Nov 5, 2008 11:09 AM

    na a na na, na a na na, hey hey, good bye

  24. Urinal Mint says: Nov 5, 2008 11:11 AM

    Won’t be a Cowboy. Quit dreaming about it.

  25. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 11:17 AM

    “If it’s under $16 mill and Hall does get hurt, what happens to the Boys for going over the cap?”
    Nothing, because it wouldn’t put them over the cap. It’s not like he gets a $16 million check if he gets hurt. It gets paid out week by week, just like regular salary.

  26. joetoronto says: Nov 5, 2008 11:18 AM

    Wow, thank God for the Cowgirls.
    Thanks, Jerry.

  27. shuxion says: Nov 5, 2008 11:20 AM

    My analysis…….haha I said anal.
    Discussed candidates
    Giants- Why change anything if you are the best team in football?
    Cowboys- Why not get him, it cannot hurt a secondary that is struggling.
    Chiefs- I don’t see why they would want to. Too many young minds to corrupt.
    Titans- See Giants
    PATS- With the bright side of their young talent at corner. Having a presence like that could really hurt but nobody seems to transform players when they first arrive like Belichick does.
    Texans- This is the best fit if you ask me. The seem to need a corner and Kubiak cannot afford more losing, he has the most to gain from getting Hall.
    In the end I say Hall goes to the………………………….Bucs cause I wanna be different from everyone else.

  28. VonClausewitz says: Nov 5, 2008 11:21 AM

    I’ve got this crazy theory that says you can gauge the turdity of a player by the amount of time they holdout after being drafted. The longer the holdout, the the more turd-like the player. Not very scientific I know.
    Just off the top of my head.
    DeAngelo Hall – hold out
    Pacman Jones – hold out
    Kellen Winslow – hold out
    Jamarcus Russel – hold out
    Philip Rivers – hold out
    Brady Quinn – hold out
    Ronnie Brown, Braylon Edwards & Cedric Benson – hold out, hold out, hold out
    Now some of these guys can play, but how many of these guys are legitimate winners who aren’t cancers in the lockerroom? With the exception of Ronnie Brown this year, and maybe Philip Rivers (who is very overrated, shotput throwing motion, big mouth and all) isn’t there a pattern here or is it just me?

  29. east96st says: Nov 5, 2008 11:26 AM

    Vox Veritas says:
    “If it’s under $16 mill and Hall does get hurt, what happens to the Boys for going over the cap?”
    “Nothing, because it wouldn’t put them over the cap. It’s not like he gets a $16 million check if he gets hurt. It gets paid out week by week, just like regular salary.”
    Vox – It’s an Al Davis contract. Who the hell knows what’s written into it? That’s why I was asking the lawyer, Florio, to give us firm numbers. He seems to be able to get his hands on contracts somehow. It would be interesting to know exactly how Hall’s contract is laid out.

  30. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 11:28 AM

    “Cowboy hate again, u guys are so pathetic…”
    All you have to do is look at which topics get the vast majority of replies. Topics on the Cowboys, of course. It’s like the Mike Jenkins thing… truth is he got juked really bad, but instead of giving Ward props for the sweet move (positive, gives positive attention to the Giants, who most people couldn’t give a damn about), Florio gets more clicks for saying that Jenkins is a coward (negative, gives negative attention to the Cowboys, who everybody cares about).
    It’s not rocket science.

  31. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 11:31 AM

    Thank God for Canada… if not for Canada, where would all of North America’s surrender bunnies go? Hail to the Queen of England, french bitches.

  32. The Delinquent Formerly Known as Pacman says: Nov 5, 2008 11:33 AM

    Hey Dallas, how do our asses taste?
    -The Giants, Eagles, and Skins

  33. TransplantedFan says: Nov 5, 2008 11:36 AM

    “call #5 Steve Smith just to remind him he still sucks ”
    Actually, thats a hilarious thought. I could see Steve Smith doing that.
    Also, to be different, I say he goes to the Bungals if nobody picks him up off waivers. He can be had for the cheap and who loves cheap players with character problems that divide the locker room? Mike Brown, thats who!
    “Hey DeAngelo, this is Steve Smith. How ya doing? You’re still a punk and I’ll toast you on any team you play for.”
    I want this to happen now.

  34. Pea Tear Griffin says: Nov 5, 2008 11:42 AM

    @psyseb
    You make a good point. The Titans did this a few years back when they were in cap hell. Looks like they came out okay.

  35. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 11:45 AM

    Yeah it’s a Davis contract but it still has to follow the rules or it never would have been approved by league offices. I will amend my opinion to state that as part of a bonus, it may have been structured to be paid on certain date(s) in the future. You know, roster bonus type thing.
    The media has been pretty loose with lumping roster bonuses in with signing bonuses lately. No idea why, maybe because bigger numbers get more feedback. At any rate, doesn’t count against the cap until it gets paid.

  36. questionmark says: Nov 5, 2008 11:57 AM

    He’s the missing ingredient that will completely sink the Cowboys’ ship – Go for it Jerry!

  37. whocanitbenow says: Nov 5, 2008 12:14 PM

    cornerback? Jerry will sign him to be the backup quarterback.

  38. JimmySmith says: Nov 5, 2008 12:29 PM

    I don’t know about the Cowboys signing him. I’m not sure of his background but I don’t think he has been arrested for anything serious that would make him more attractive to Jerry Jones.
    But he does fit the Cowboys other attributes, he’s overrated, he’s overpaid, and he hasn’t won a playoff game either.

  39. jdlaroo says: Nov 5, 2008 12:34 PM

    “….acquiring players…propel them to a Super Bowl”? Florio, have you dropped acid today or what? Have you watched D Hall play this year? He’ll flush them down the toilet bowl. I don’t even think Jerruh is that freakin’ dumb. Florio, bust out a phone call to John Herrera and see if you can pull a “fresh” scoop out of the Black Hole.

  40. Stinkfist says: Nov 5, 2008 12:43 PM

    I can see Al Davis cutting him, then a couple hours later going “holy shit! DeAngelo Hall is available? Pick him up!”

  41. PackOne says: Nov 5, 2008 12:45 PM

    The Cowboys suck.

  42. empty13 says: Nov 5, 2008 12:49 PM

    well kc is playing hard and making progress.

  43. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 12:54 PM

    “But he does fit the Cowboys other attributes, he’s overrated, he’s overpaid, and he hasn’t won a playoff game either.”
    If that were all it takes, Aaron Rodgers would be backing Romo up right now.

  44. Skew says: Nov 5, 2008 12:55 PM

    He was over rated in Atlanta. Still can’t believe the contract the Raiders gave him. But Al Davis cutting him just shows that Davis still has a little bit of football intellegence left.

  45. Vox Veritas says: Nov 5, 2008 12:55 PM

    “The Cowboys suck. ”
    Yet they beat the 4-4 Packers. In Lambeau. By double digits.

  46. wingnut says: Nov 5, 2008 1:02 PM

    Davis is always wary of releasing a player if there’s a chance a AFC
    West rival will claim him.
    To bad KC.

  47. wingnut says: Nov 5, 2008 1:08 PM

    My source tells me that the Raiders are very interested in Jim Harbaugh becoming their next head coach.

  48. IenjoyPFT says: Nov 5, 2008 1:25 PM

    Cowboys do suck, so does Vox’ outrageous Cowboys bias claims.

  49. daaa birds says: Nov 5, 2008 1:26 PM

    randy moss played with little to no effort in oakland too but he turned out alright for the pats…theres something in the water in oakland. people looking at getting oakland players should refer to their game tapes from prior teams. sucks for jamarcus.

  50. blueballs says: Nov 5, 2008 1:59 PM

    Hall would be perfect for the Cowgirls. He never has to worry about making a tackle. He must have been impressed with Mike Jenkins against the GMEN. At least pretend you care, Jenkins. Then again it was MEN playing against ‘boys on that day.

  51. Kevin from Philly says: Nov 5, 2008 2:20 PM

    Vox,
    Jerry Jones may swing for the fences, but D Hall and Pacman are breaking balls in the dirt – zero shot of sucess in the long run.

  52. blueballs says: Nov 5, 2008 2:42 PM

    Hey psyeb:
    When does Herman Edwards qualify as “an experienced head coach who has developped teams before (i.e. has taken them from bad to good) and has been credited with the development of at least one hall-of-famer, from rookie to pro-bowl ”
    Way off on that one.

  53. Great Falconi says: Nov 5, 2008 3:12 PM

    DeAngelo Hall is a prime example of a turd that only hurts his team on the field and in the locker room.
    The worst kind of turd is the type that can’t be trusted or liked by most of his teammates. The Falcons haven’t missed him at all. The Raiders can lose just as many games with that guy as without him.
    That being said, I’d love to see Hall in a Cowboy uni. He’s all talk. He’d fit right in.
    (As they say in Texas, Hall is “all hat and no cattle.”)

  54. DallasFan says: Nov 5, 2008 3:54 PM

    Cowboys will not bring him in. As hard-headed as Jerry is, this frustrating season is teaching him some lessons.

  55. fordman84 says: Nov 5, 2008 3:54 PM

    Man, I feel sorry for fans of all the other teams. Apparently it is a bad thing to have an owner who is willing to do what it takes to win a Superbowl.
    I guess you would rather have an owner who sits back and “hopes” one falls into his lap.

  56. fordman84 says: Nov 5, 2008 3:55 PM

    “rugburn says:
    November 5th, 2008 at 10:05 am
    It would make sense that Hall would go to the Cowboys. As a Cowboy hater I hope Jerry “the turd collector” Jones adds another distraction. His collection of misfits has worked out great so far right? right? ”
    The “turd collector” who hasn’t had anyone show up on Florio’s turd list since its inception? That one?
    Moron

  57. DallasFan says: Nov 5, 2008 4:01 PM

    As a diehard Cowboys fan, Jerry can drive me nuts. At times I long for the days of Landry and Schramm, but Fordman84 is correct, you can’t deny Jerry’s passion and willingness to spend money. Some of his personnel moves….another story.

  58. screaming sheep says: Nov 5, 2008 7:08 PM

    You know, I just remebered something. I wonder if this had anything to do with his comments about wanting the Raiders to sign Vick when he gets out. You know, Al likes his quarterback.

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