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VIKINGS IN DANGER OF LOSING WHOLE DEFENSIVE LINE?

The Minnesota Vikings’ entire starting defensive line could be in danger of getting suspended.
Vikings defensive tackles Pat Williams and Kevin Williams  are currently appealing four-game suspensions for testing positive for a banned diuretic. And as we noted this morning, Vikings defensive end Jared Allen is facing a possible suspension over his latest illegal hit on a quarterback.
And then came today’s game, when the fourth and final starter on the Vikings’ defensive line did something that could get him suspended.
Vikings defensive end Ray Edwards delivered an absolutely brutal late hit to Buccaneers quarterback Jeff Garcia, drilling him long after Garcia had thrown the ball. Edwards was flagged for roughing the passer and will definitely be fined, and it’s possible that the NFL will rule the hit blatant enough to merit a suspension.
It’s not clear exactly what the timing is on the appeals for Williams and Williams, and it’s too soon to say whether Allen and Edwards will be suspended. But it’s at least possible that the Vikings could play next week’s game at Jacksonville without all four starters on their defensive line.

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37 Responses to “VIKINGS IN DANGER OF LOSING WHOLE DEFENSIVE LINE?”
  1. bucanero55 says: Nov 16, 2008 2:19 PM

    He should have been kicked out of the game right then and there.

  2. nerdmann says: Nov 16, 2008 2:30 PM

    They’re coached that way. They know their only good players are on the DL and at RB, so they try to take out the opposing QB with cheap shots.
    As punishment, do NOT suspend Brad Childress.

  3. Revacard says: Nov 16, 2008 2:31 PM

    I’d take kicking QBs asses over loveboat scandals.

  4. wintermath says: Nov 16, 2008 2:34 PM

    I’m a vikings fan, and that hit made me sick to my stomach… Not acceptable, and he was punished.

  5. Ntrikit says: Nov 16, 2008 2:34 PM

    He should have been shot.
    There is no doubt that the entire Vikings defense is getting suspended for the remainder of the season, and Adrian Peterson will be asked to play all 11 positions on defense. This is not speculation, but fact. Jared Allen is scheduled to die by lethal injection this Wednesday. Kevin and Pat Williams will be strapped to some huge electric chair. The Vikings are all cheaters. All cheaters. This is fact. The Vikings will not be allowed to play any more games this season, they will be forced to forfeit all remaining games.

  6. one3one says: Nov 16, 2008 2:36 PM

    If it gets rid of Childress, I’m all for it. A real head coach that inspired respect and authority from his players would put that team over the top.

  7. hender says: Nov 16, 2008 2:36 PM

    i agree bucaner…that should have been an immediate ejection ..that hit was so late and flagrant he should have been tossed on the spot

  8. Pantherfan105 says: Nov 16, 2008 2:38 PM

    The bigger story will be if/when Tampa loses, we’ll have to hear more of Florio’s crap about Gruden and Tenn…

  9. empty13 says: Nov 16, 2008 2:38 PM

    c’mon, that’s harsh. at least they arent a bunch of dog-killers.

  10. Ntrikit says: Nov 16, 2008 2:39 PM

    Posting crazy “what if” scenario’s is fun.
    What if John Randle comes back to replace Jared Allen?
    What if Randy Moss is traded back to the Vikings?
    What is Gus Frerrotte comes out of the locker room with an UZI?
    OMG LOL~!~~~`111!!!!!!!!!eleven!!!!!!!!!1one!!!

  11. chronicbucks says: Nov 16, 2008 2:40 PM

    jared allen is an out of control alcoholic who really needs to get sober before he gets a vehicular manslaughter charge
    the williams dudes got kinda screwed, but the rules are stated, so the punishment must follow
    that late hit was disgusting, but so awesome at the same time, i don’t know if its suspension worthy, depends on his track record

  12. wintermath says: Nov 16, 2008 2:41 PM

    Looks like Florio has groomed Michael David Smith to jump on anything negative about the Vikings as soon as possible… MDS making your boy-toy proud!

  13. stu says: Nov 16, 2008 2:43 PM

    Of course, since there’s no indication that any of them next week are likely to be suspended, this means nothing.
    In other news, if the Vikings top 3 QBs are injured, they could be forced to play all of next week’s game in the Wildcat offense.

  14. madmax says: Nov 16, 2008 2:46 PM

    don’t be critical of florio or your comment won’t get posted.

  15. wintermath says: Nov 16, 2008 2:47 PM

    I just got done seeing someone hit someone… what kind of game is this?

  16. vikefanatic says: Nov 16, 2008 2:49 PM

    I can’t watch the game because I’m working so I can’t comment one way or the other on the hit. But based on what I’ve heard via the radio, and correct me if I’m wrong, Tampa had two personal foul calls earlier, one of which was just as bad(by trueblood I believe)

  17. hesawinner says: Nov 16, 2008 2:49 PM

    Gutless cheap shots are part of the Vikings’ gameplan. They say coaches have to adjust, and Childress had to do something once it became obvious that his team is marginal, at best. So he told the guys to even out the playing field for him. And, if the D is having a tough time getting to the QB, just execute the cheapshot after the play is over.

  18. sgulasch says: Nov 16, 2008 3:02 PM

    i guess if Garcia pump faked the hit would be okay then?

  19. Tyme2Ryde says: Nov 16, 2008 3:22 PM

    The fear in Minnesota is not that the Williams boys will be suspended, but that will be reasoning enough for the owners to not fire Brad Childress if it does happen. This team is dead-heading to a .500 record with it’s defensive line intact. A much worse fate would be dropping the last 6 games and keeping our POS head coach

  20. VikingAP says: Nov 16, 2008 4:11 PM

    Who cares he sucks anyway put Robison in.

  21. krinkle says: Nov 16, 2008 4:16 PM

    The Viking fans that are supporting Jarred Allen for his obvious attempts to take quarterbacks out of the game make me sick. And now there are sure to be many supporters of the Ray Edwards hit. That is why I hate the Vikings more than any other. Class-less fans to go along with the class-less Defensive ends.

  22. bgman says: Nov 16, 2008 6:20 PM

    Yep, PFT is all-out on its anti-Viking hate rant the past few weeks. First Florio was pushing the Fire Childress bandwagon, then the D linemen hate, then the penalties and non penalties, and now back to the D-lineman hate.
    Why not just hate Kenechi Udeze for bravery in the face of lukemia while you’re at it too?
    Yes the hit by Edwards was extremly late and a hard hit. There’s no defending it. And on top of that it was a stupid penalty. The Bucs were deep in the red zone. The last thing a team needs is a penalty to give the opposition a fresh set of downs to get a TD instead of a FG.
    The Williams thing has been overblown. If they’re penalized, it’s from the league taking a zero tolerence stance on a minor infraction from something that several players were misled about by the drug manafacturer. And really what was the drug? Something that makes them pee a lot and is legal. It’s not like the hard core steroids and anything that gives them an unfair competitive advantage. The ironic part if Johnny Jolly and Nick Kazur were caught with enough illegal narcotics to be considered dealers or smugglers. No suspensions for that, but God forbid if they took one StarCaps pill, there goes a quarter of their season. Absolutely ridicilous.
    As far as Jared Allen. He’s not dirty. He’s non-stop effort to get to the QB. The two hits on Schaub, and especially the hit on Rogers were the case of the guy going full speed to the QB and not having a chance to hold back without playing a less aggressive style of football. Both hits on Schaub, Allen was falling/being pushed to the ground and his continuation of effort took him to the knee because he couldn’t get to the upper body, he didn’t target the knee. The hit on Rogers he was unblocked and was full steam when Rogers let go of the ball with Allen just a foot or so away. How the hell is someone supposed to go from full sprint to completely stopped in matter of a foot or two. Allen even held his hands up so he wouldn’t hit Rogers with any more force than was needed to stop his momentum.
    But the NFL may as well suspend him if he can’t play his style. Today against the Bucs he looked like a basketball players with four fouls and afraid that any type of aggressive play would result in him being sent to the bench. It totally took him out of his game and I saw very few all-out bull or speed rushes at the QB.

  23. VikingAP says: Nov 16, 2008 6:25 PM

    cry about it krinkle

  24. nerdmann says: Nov 16, 2008 6:38 PM

    YO, BGMAN,
    Were Jared Allens comments this preseason about “putting his helmet into Aaron Rodgers’ spine” also just a result of his “constant hustle,” and “desire to get to the QB?”
    Please. The dude is a dirty player and an alcoholic who has no respect for himself, society or the game he plays.

  25. LordViking says: Nov 16, 2008 7:25 PM

    In the words of Buddy Holly…”That will be the day”.
    If Edwards is suspended for that hit, the NFL does mean “Not For Long”. He should be fined, but seriously, if he is suspended it is another step by the commish to make pussies out of players.

  26. hender says: Nov 16, 2008 8:55 PM

    lord viking …that late hit by edwards on garcia was flat out cheap and gutless…quit with the HOMER crap

  27. swannyrivers says: Nov 16, 2008 10:49 PM

    the game was chippy overall. The Vikes weren’t the only ones taking shots at players. AP got hit low all day long. As for any comments about Vikings being cheap and classless, those would be jealous Puker fans from Green Bay coming to pi$$ on the @$$-whooping they got last week. C’mon people, we play the same game as everyone else. Jared Allen is constantly being tackled, held, cut block and run away from. The sacks that are late hits are him grabbing at the QB’s ankles with the Left Tackle laying on top of him. But what do i know, so piss and moan, piss and moan.

  28. Bob_Nelson says: Nov 16, 2008 11:41 PM

    The Vikings have always been a low class cheapshot group. It is just more out in the open because Childress cannot control the players. He did nothing about the dopers or the fights in the locker room or the child abuser who burned his child’s ears and suffacated him.
    The viking goons are out of control and all Wilf’s private counseling sessions with the commisioner about the behavior of his players and the subsequent code of conduct that sits on the shelf collecting dust have done noting to improve the situation.
    The ownership group of the Vikings is not Christian and it shows.
    The Vikings won the NFC at turdwatch last year.
    Now all they have is spearing, late hits, facemasks, and other cheap crap that has gone on there since Bud Grant.
    Goodell has to hammer those punks. They are begging for it.

  29. Strick says: Nov 17, 2008 8:24 AM

    nerdmann said:
    “They’re coached that way. They know their only good players are on the DL and at RB, so they try to take out the opposing QB with cheap shots.
    As punishment, do NOT suspend Brad Childress. ”
    I love you, man… thanks for making my morning.

  30. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Nov 17, 2008 10:58 AM

    None of Allen’s hits were dirty- he never lunged at the QB’s knees. The Williams boys did not test positive for banned substances. Its just a water pill silly. How are they supposed to know what’s in a substance they were taking? Who cares that they are responsible for everything they put in their body that’s not on the NFL list. Ray Edwards hit was not cheap by any means. How was he supposed to go out all and stop himself from hitting the QB?
    What a joke you people are picking on my Vikings all the time. They don’t deserve any of this. They have a great owner, a fine head coach and the NFL’s best leader at the helm playing QB. It’s all just one big conspiracy against my team. Stop it!

  31. jimicos says: Nov 17, 2008 11:17 AM

    bgman says:
    November 16th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
    “The Williams thing has been overblown. If they’re penalized, it’s from the league taking a zero tolerence stance on a minor infraction from something that several players were misled about by the drug manafacturer. And really what was the drug? Something that makes them pee a lot and is legal. It’s not like the hard core steroids and anything that gives them an unfair competitive advantage. The ironic part if Johnny Jolly and Nick Kazur were caught with enough illegal narcotics to be considered dealers or smugglers. No suspensions for that, but God forbid if they took one StarCaps pill, there goes a quarter of their season. Absolutely ridicilous.”
    The NFL can’t fine or suspend players for breaking the law until it’s been proven that THEY DID break the law. Until Jolly pleads guilty or is found guilty by a judge there’s nothing the NFL can do about it. However, they don’t need any court to give a ruling over what happens on the field or in the pee cup. The Williamses are being held to the same rules as everyone else in the NFL. Regardless of whether or not the banned substance was on the bottle, it was in their bodies.
    “As far as Jared Allen. He’s not dirty. He’s non-stop effort to get to the QB. The two hits on Schaub, and especially the hit on Rogers were the case of the guy going full speed to the QB and not having a chance to hold back without playing a less aggressive style of football.”
    That’s it right there. They want him to play a less aggressive style of football. One that doesn’t result in helmet-to-knee hits on the QB or helmet-to-helmet hits on the QB. In short, they want him to play by the rules.
    Didn’t see the Edwards hit, so I can’t comment on that one.

  32. purpleguy says: Nov 17, 2008 11:53 AM

    It’s the only way the Cheesers can win the NFC North.

  33. marcduke says: Nov 17, 2008 12:39 PM

    My bad, I thought they had the Rams next. The Jags are probably a worse matchup for them with those guys.

  34. jimicos says: Nov 17, 2008 5:43 PM

    purpleguy says:
    “It’s the only way the Cheesers can win the NFC North.”
    What? Having the league’s rules enforced? Have you looked at the penalty stats lately? The Packers would be much better off with no enforcement of penalties.

  35. steve2e says: Nov 17, 2008 7:44 PM

    Wow, great comments. Emotions are flowing just like they were in the game. The first quarter had more closed fisted hand shakes then the last two Sundays worth of games. By halftime both teams were amped. The second half Gruden got control of his team and Childress, well he didn’t.
    Allen takes some cheap hits and the hit by Edwards was late enough to be in this week’s game. A lot of this is frustration on the players part and coaching saying “make something happen.”
    This is typical of teams that have lost fan support and have the coach on the bubble.
    The Bucs were pretty aggressive as well and got flagged but many calls were missed. In several games the year the Vikes won because of missed or bad calls. This time it went the Bucs way and that good because the Bucs earned the win.

  36. lito says: Nov 18, 2008 3:35 PM

    More bad news for the Vikes. Shouldn’t be a surprise. How many more reasons to fire Childress? Vikes not only disappoint but they do not improve… they regress.

  37. lito says: Nov 18, 2008 3:36 PM

    Fire Childress now and now and now and now and now. . . . .

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