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PATRIOTS CLOSING IN ON RECORD FOR FEWEST PENALTIES

When the Rams played the Patriots in October, Rams coach Jim Haslett complained after the game about how his team was flagged for nine penalties for 63 yards, while the Patriots ended up with zero penalties for zero yards.
But that game wasn’t all that out of the ordinary for New England.
Mike Reiss of the Boston Globe reports that the Patriots are on pace to set a new NFL record for fewest penalties in a 16-game season. So far opposing teams have accepted just 44 penalties against the Patriots this year; the NFL record is 59 by the Seahawks last year.
When New England does get flagged, the big penalties are false starts (nine of them so far this season) and unnecessary roughness (seven). Other than those two fouls, there’s not a single type of penalty that the officials have called on New England more than five times all season.

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  1. iamthorny says: Dec 10, 2008 12:05 PM

    44 penalites accepted? Isn’t that about what the Raiders are averaging per game?

  2. PhinInCanada says: Dec 10, 2008 12:07 PM

    Gee. I wonder why …..

  3. Simdogga77 says: Dec 10, 2008 12:14 PM

    It’s called Discipline!
    Something Dallas does not hvae!

  4. shuxion says: Dec 10, 2008 12:15 PM

    Ok here it comes:
    The officials are in the Patriots pocket.
    Even though the the 5 yard rule was changed for the purpose of making it easier for the Colts receivers to get open against the Patriots.
    But yest Goddell and Kraft are working together to taint the league.
    And the PATS only one because they cheated.
    I think I covered it all.

  5. shuxion says: Dec 10, 2008 12:16 PM

    wait I forgot a talking point of anti patriot people…..
    They didn’t get penalized for cheating either….
    There that covers them all.

  6. GigantoGillicus says: Dec 10, 2008 12:21 PM

    When penalties like Illegal Contact and Holding can be called on every play, this does not pass the smell test.

  7. FlyingElvis says: Dec 10, 2008 12:24 PM

    Wow thanks Mike Reiss now we’re gunna have to beat the refs AND the raiders this weekend

  8. RobJH says: Dec 10, 2008 12:24 PM

    Amazing. I guess they really never do hold, and Randy Moss never pushes off. Looks like not calling penalties on New England is the one thing the officials have been consistent about all year. Fewest penalties and still not gonna make the playoffs…

  9. bender says: Dec 10, 2008 12:25 PM

    No conspiracy… none of the guys wants to have to run from Foxborough to Logan the next morning.
    I am as anti-pats as they come, but this is just the sign of a well coached team.

  10. edgerules says: Dec 10, 2008 12:26 PM

    They are a disciplined team. They are a well coached team. They are coached by arguably the best coach or one of the best coaches in the league.

  11. The Q-man says: Dec 10, 2008 12:27 PM

    Shuxion….you’re funny….but, looks ain’t everything!
    That just showed a focused, discipled team…that is the Pats.
    What would the Colts record be if Peyton went down for the year?

  12. footballnut says: Dec 10, 2008 12:28 PM

    That’s discipline for you…
    At least one thing is positive for them this year. I just can’t wait to see the Raiders fans crying and their make up running…
    They look like they’re at a KISS concert for crying out loud.

  13. patspsycho says: Dec 10, 2008 12:32 PM

    Give it to the trolls, lowlife, and losers to try and tie this into cheating. Like I said before, the Patriots have lost a great number of players to injuries, but they still show up for every game and give it all they have. I mean, please, please take the time to consider this: Cheaters cheat because they want to take the easy path to winning, correct? So if this is true, then the Patriots would have quit a long time ago, they would have phoned it in after the first few games.
    How can they be “cheaters” if they have this much character and grit, and just don’t quit?
    Shuxion, do me a favor and don’t skip your 5th grade class again. Pay attention and you’ll learn that WON is not spelled “one.” But then, after all, how would you know? You never won anything in your life.

  14. DaRizat says: Dec 10, 2008 12:32 PM

    Shuxion, Name another franchise that has benefitted more from questionable officiating and proven cheating, and maybe you would have a point.
    Sorry. Fact are facts. Just cause you love the Pats doesn’t mean that you can wish away the reality of the situation.
    Matt Light throws 3 closed handed punches to an unprotected opponents face and no suspension? Fewest penalties called ever? Yes, these are facts.
    Whether or not that means conspiracy is up to personal feelings, but theres no denying the facts.

  15. LiveNBreath Football says: Dec 10, 2008 12:32 PM

    Accepted penalties means the other teams are declining some. Which means the ENTIRE League is in on the Patriots conspiracy (except Mangini of the Jets).

  16. batfreight says: Dec 10, 2008 12:34 PM

    Less than 5 holding calls all year? ..Light had at least 5 holding calls that the refs ignored in one series against Harrison in the Pitt game .. Is anyone really shocked that Goodells “crusaders in stripes” are looking out for Roger’s favorite team …Can’t have good buddy Bob Kraft missing out on that playoff dough …

  17. MarkB says: Dec 10, 2008 12:35 PM

    So last year, the officials were in the Seahawk’s pocket?

  18. Grulks says: Dec 10, 2008 12:37 PM

    When your schedule is that soft, i.e. when you play against such soft teams, players really don’t need an extra edge (holding, pass interference, etc).
    I dislike the penalties “accepted” bit. It makes it a misleading stat. Theoretically, a defense could commit all kinds of penalties on 3rd and 4, for a 5 yard penalty. If the play is successful for 15 yards, no team would accept it. But that doesn’t mean the team didn’t commit a penalty.
    I guess in a perfect world, the stat would be penalties called against., and the only things that wouldn’t count against them would be flags picked up, or if a penalty was overturned by review/replay.

  19. svnrdr says: Dec 10, 2008 12:37 PM

    That’s because being a bunch of arrogant a-holes is within the rules.

  20. tom3565 says: Dec 10, 2008 12:38 PM

    Call it what you like, nobody is going to say the Pats are just that desciplined. Anyone who’s team has played the Pats will tell you that you get no calls that most other teams would get. Maybe you do and maybe you don’t, but the Refs seem to make thing up on all the teams in the NFL. I think most of the calls not seen arise from the official anticipating a infraction will occur, and then it doesn’t but he has already thrown the flag these are the calls that replays show never occured . If you are getting breaks enjoy it when it happens, you never know when it will change. Most fans hate it when a teams claims it is discipline, just as much as they hate it when the Raiders make the excuse of they get picked on. Watch a Raiders game it becomes self explanatory.

  21. albertperk says: Dec 10, 2008 12:40 PM

    “It’s all a part of the plan” – The Joker

  22. bonecity7 says: Dec 10, 2008 12:42 PM

    Phinincanada,
    Your implication is tired. If it is favoritism, what’s the excuse for Seattle setting the record last year? Any chance that teams that set records do so by earning them?

  23. pyr8fan says: Dec 10, 2008 12:45 PM

    It should read that the Pats only WON because they cheated…..not one. And yes, they are cheaters. Didn’t you get that memo.

  24. Nideak says: Dec 10, 2008 12:57 PM

    Is there a dumber fanbase than the Patriots’?
    @shuxion:
    Can you please name the rule change that the Colts pushed for? When you can’t (because there was no rule change), please go get snipped and help the gene pool out.
    Nothing worse than a moronic fan base trying to pass off statements with 0 bit of truth in them as fact.

  25. clintdogg says: Dec 10, 2008 12:59 PM

    i’d give up this record for a health Tom Brady😦

  26. Dan1919 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:01 PM

    As a Patriots fan, I’ve seen a lot of the flags on the Patriots declined because the opposing offense made a play.
    How many penalties were declined against the Patriots?

  27. stiller43 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:04 PM

    When can the Pats fans get off the “oh, we had injuries, and because of that, it’s a great season” bus?
    EVERY TEAM has injuries, but no one seems to complain about them as much as the Pats fans.
    The fact is the Patriots (going into the season) had the easiest schedule in the league. Also, the Patriots did cheat, but they didn’t win only from cheating. They had a good team, with a lot of good skill players, role players, and (it kills me to say this because I despise Belicheat (and the whole Patriots organization)) good coaching. You take a few good players off a really good team to start with (that also won 18 games last season) and you pair that with the easiest schedule in the league and you SHOULD be in the playoff hunt.
    So can we finally put an end to the constant bitching about the injuries? Like I said before, EVERY TEAM has them. It’s part of football. It’s especially part of football later in the year. Good teams overcome them, and yes, the Patriots are a good team.

  28. Dan1919 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:08 PM

    I stand corrected. Patriots only had 11 penalties declined or offsetting.

  29. sonvar says: Dec 10, 2008 1:14 PM

    It’s probably because Rodney Harrison has been out injured.

  30. gyldenlove says: Dec 10, 2008 1:15 PM

    Patspsycho: “Give it to the trolls, lowlife, and losers to try and tie this into cheating. Like I said before, the Patriots have lost a great number of players to injuries, but they still show up for every game and give it all they have. I mean, please, please take the time to consider this: Cheaters cheat because they want to take the easy path to winning, correct? So if this is true, then the Patriots would have quit a long time ago, they would have phoned it in after the first few games.
    How can they be “cheaters” if they have this much character and grit, and just don’t quit?
    Shuxion, do me a favor and don’t skip your 5th grade class again. Pay attention and you’ll learn that WON is not spelled “one.” But then, after all, how would you know? You never won anything in your life. ”
    That is a pungent heap of dung, you are saying that it is only cheating if it is easier? So people who spend years building mini computers and putting them into shoes so they can beat the blackjack table aren’t cheating, because that is not easy.
    People who have their blood syphoned and stored so they can have it injected later to increase stamina are not cheating? because that is not easy.
    People who spend hours making tiny little marks in a deck of cards aren’t cheating?
    Your argument is so flawed we could put a sticker on it and call it Windows 95.

  31. TheBozforPres says: Dec 10, 2008 1:20 PM

    Oh please, get off the conspiracy boat, people…
    It’s fairly obvious that the reason that there are so few penalties is that the defensive backs aren’t close enough to the receivers to get pass interference in the first place.

  32. albaNY Hawker says: Dec 10, 2008 1:34 PM

    If not for a 15-yard excessive celebration penalty, they would have had their second zero-penalty game against the Seahawks last week, and Qwest Field is notorious for generating visiting team false starts.

  33. Sociofan says: Dec 10, 2008 1:36 PM

    add in several 15 yarders for “Coaching Idiocy”
    I still think they cheated and they likely continue to do so.
    As much as I love the Red Sox, I detest the Patriots. Not the individual players, because they do have some great players, but the organization and coaching staff are rotten and arrogant to the core.

  34. ScottieC says: Dec 10, 2008 1:37 PM

    Ohhhhhhh Boy….This will be a GOOOOOOOD ONE!!!
    Let the Patriot HATE/JEALOUSY BEGIN IN 3…………..2……………1

  35. shutdown says: Dec 10, 2008 1:39 PM

    Yeah it wasnt like James Harrions helmet was almost turned all the way around on two plays.

  36. slickrick971 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:39 PM

    $$$$$$$$$$

  37. texasPHINSfan says: Dec 10, 2008 1:39 PM

    i’m not going to stoop to calling them cheaters, or saying they are “in bed” with the commish. but i will say that they seem to get away with some things. there were at least 5 no-calls in the last fins/pats game anyway. i don’t really care at this point, as the officiating wouldn’t have changed the outcome of the game anyway.
    let the pats have that distinction… its a worthless distinction anyway. before this article was printed, could anyone name the last team that had that record? probably not….

  38. sim448 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:40 PM

    you people who keep bitching about cheating are just retarded. last year, they went 18-1, this year they are 8-5, tied for first, w/out their best player. they win because they are the best franchise in football, maybe all sports. seriously, you people who complain are starting to look really stupid.

  39. beastmode says: Dec 10, 2008 1:41 PM

    As a Bills fan I’ve watched for years as the Pats have benefited from selective officiating at our expense – way more so than any other team the Bills have been routinely losing to. The holding not called on the Patriots over the past 5 years should be an embarrassment to the league (not to mention that virtually every close call in a critical situation gets called their way, at least against the Bills). Too bad the league (and CBS Sports) IS the Patriots. This is not shocking.

  40. tom3565 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:41 PM

    patspsycho: how many players have you lost by the way? There are some teams that are high double digits and counting. It comes down to this, you will defend your team no matter what, if the shoe was on the other foot you Pats fans would be whining just like everyone else. With that said your team still has to win the remaining games to join to playoffs, just like the other teams, the stat of least penalties doesn’t change that at all.

  41. Pea Tear Griffin says: Dec 10, 2008 1:41 PM

    @iamthorny
    ZING!!!!

  42. BluRaider says: Dec 10, 2008 1:43 PM

    I put this out there first: I am a Raider fan, so folks can write me off as inherently biased, if you like. For the record, I am a rational person. I do not believe that all the calls against Oakland are shaped by historical and social perceptions. Some are, but they do NOT explain the teams numerous flaws and faults. Regardless, of my potential for bias, there have been clear examples of BS calls for New England. Think back to the beginning of their rise to the top of the NFL. The “Patriots” first run to the Superbowl was clearly boosted (shortly after 9-11, no less). They suddenly benefitted from a phantom call now infamously named the “Tuck Rule.” Sure, the rule has some founding in an obscure portion of the rulebook. But, really, was it ever called before, and has this ruling ever been called since? Yes, the team appears to have discpline. But, like a star basketball player driving to the hoop, they get the benefit of the doubt more often than not. Just some thoughts that I figured might be nice to contribute.

  43. gosox2673 says: Dec 10, 2008 1:49 PM

    “It’s fairly obvious that the reason that there are so few penalties is that the defensive backs aren’t close enough to the receivers to get pass interference in the first place.”
    This is so true it makes me want to cry.

  44. 78thballothalloffamer says: Dec 10, 2008 2:02 PM

    I’m sure there are a lot of holding infractions that are not being called on the Patriots by the officials. I’m sure that’s true for every team. The Patriots are well-coached and they play disciplined football. This is obvious.
    But I do have my doubts. Football’s rules are arbitrary and often vague. The officials enforce the rules inconsistently. Officials in all sports show favoritism towards certain players and teams. Since there are more gray areas in football’s rules, that’s more opportunity for officials to show favoritism toward one team – consciously or unconsciously.
    In other words, I’d say it’s probably inaccurate to accuse the NFL and the Patiots of some sort of collusive behavior, but until the NFL does something to improve the quality of the officiating, it is a fair accusation.

  45. BC781 says: Dec 10, 2008 2:04 PM

    A different way to look at it would be to see which officiating crews threw the most flags and which ones threw the least amount of flags. Then you could find out if the officiating crew that threw the most flags had even done a New England game. That would be one way to determine if NE had any influence over the officiating.

  46. jerseyguy says: Dec 10, 2008 2:08 PM

    You can’t just bitch and whine about the no calls you see when you watch a patriots game. There is always a questionable call or no call for many other games. And favoritism. You know like last year’s super bowl because amoni tommer did not push off Ellis Hobbs and Shaun O’ Hera did not obviously hold wilfork the whole game.
    You people complain when there’s no flag and spend hours complain because there was one (Wes Welker Layer out)
    The players are disciplined deal with it your coach doesn’t spend the ridiculous hours practicing discipline like belechick does.
    Many teams have injuries. yeah but how many of them can you say are in the playoff hunt without ,A hall of fame caliber quarter back, Rodney Harrison, Terrence Wheatley, Teddy Bruschi, Adaulis Thomas, Lawrence Maroney, Ty Warren, and a 50 percent healthy Vince Wilfork
    You complain about how The Patriots cheat because of spy gate SHUT UP its over move one. You call him and idiot he was a freaking genius he thought of a creative way to get a competitive advantage but got caught.

  47. svnrdr says: Dec 10, 2008 2:23 PM

    ScottieC says:
    December 10th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
    Ohhhhhhh Boy….This will be a GOOOOOOOD ONE!!!
    Let the Patriot HATE/JEALOUSY BEGIN IN 3…………..2……………1
    ——————————————————————-
    Did you start at 113? You are wee bit late…But it IS original.

  48. stevenjames says: Dec 10, 2008 2:26 PM

    Even when the Raiders had great teams back in the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s they STILL led the league in penalties, so that argument that the Raiders are undisciplined doesn’t pass muster. The Raiders have always been targeted by the league and the refs.
    Are the patriots just that disciplined to not hold or use hands to the face or pass interference or do the refs overlook their penalties because there is favoritism by the league towards the patriots? You cant convince me that they play that squeaky clean game in and game out.

  49. Ralphie says: Dec 10, 2008 2:28 PM

    Grulks says: “When your schedule is that soft…”
    So what’s the Jets excuse genius? The Jets play a schedule with the AFC East and AFC West that’s a mirror image of the Pats, and when you put their opponents side by side they play 12 common teams in 08. I didn’t see the Jests playing the Steelers or Colts this year either, but those lucky Jests got the 1 win, cream-puff Bengals. Yeah, it must be the soft schedule.
    “when you play against such soft teams, players really don’t need an extra edge (holding, pass interference, etc).”
    Does the coaching staff preach that to the players in the pre-game pep talk? “Hey guys, remember, you don’t need to commit penalties today because the other team sucks”. Go back to your XBox and Madden NFL, that’s your reality.

  50. The Blast Furnace says: Dec 10, 2008 2:28 PM

    Just about every fan in the world fears the officials when their team plays the patriots.
    We’ve all seen the officials take over games at pivitol moments. And thats really the point. It is less important the number of flags and more important to consider the timing and magnutude and impact of the flag.
    That being said the Patriots have been flagged 44 times for 406 yds and opponents 68 times for 551 yds.

  51. Rockpile08 says: Dec 10, 2008 3:02 PM

    The stars are aligned for the Pats this season. Keep in mind that with the NFL’s rotational schedule, the Patriots, fresh off an undefeated, uh, regular season, they were awarded the easiest schedule in the NFL for 2008. This was not a conspiracy, just the rotation of the schedules. The only two games that were results-driven were playing the Steelers and Colts (both losses). Other than that they feasted to that gaudy 8-5 record on the likes of the AFC West and NFC West. Who needs to commit penalties when playing the Raiders, Chiefs, Chargers, Seahawks, Rams, etc.?

  52. Ralphie says: Dec 10, 2008 3:04 PM

    BlueRaider, that TuckRule play was just payback for the phantom roughing the Snake call in 76 by Ben Dreith who cheated the Patriots out of a playoff win. Here’s a reminder. “During the 1976 playoff game between the Oakland Raiders and the New England Patriots, Dreith called a roughing-the-passer penalty on Patriots tackle Ray “Sugar Bear” Hamilton, nullifying a third down incompletion and giving the Raiders an automatic first down deep in New England territory, which led to Oakland’s game-winning touchdown with less than a minute left. Replays showed there was no illegal contact.”
    Dreith was in Al’s pocket. Those were the days when Al could get away with his cheatin’ shit. What goes around comes around.

  53. JoeSixPack says: Dec 10, 2008 3:13 PM

    C’mon Patriots fans – stop wallowing.
    EVERY team in the NFL has lost their starting QB.
    And their starting RB
    And their backup RB
    And their backup to the backup RB
    And the backup to the backup to the backup RB
    But it’s not like Running Backs and Quarterbacks are important players on offense.
    And EVERY team in the NFL has lost their DLE
    And their NT
    And their RILB
    And their ROLB
    And their S
    But it’s not like any of those positions are important either.
    Your team is the Patriots. Patriots backups should still be able to at least tie for first place in the Division and be as good as the Jets, who spent $140 million in the offseason and brought in a Hall of Fame Quartback.
    And what do you know – they are!

  54. TCLARK says: Dec 10, 2008 3:30 PM

    Just one more thing for the haters to be JEALOUS of. Ben Watsons baby celebration was the only penalty they got last week.

  55. Alpha says: Dec 10, 2008 3:38 PM

    The refs almost never flag the Pats for penalties?
    What’s next…breaking news the sun will rise in the East tomorrow?

  56. ampats says: Dec 10, 2008 3:48 PM

    It really gets old Raiders fans whining against the tuck RULE.
    Bluraider, do you really watch football because your statement that the ruling has not been called since is incorrect.It has been called numerous times even in last weeks game. The tuck rule still exists, you would think after 7 years the NFL would have changed that “terrible” rule.You want to talk about phantom calls, try 1976 Ben Dreith’s fanthom roughing the passer call or are most of you too young to remeber when the Raiders were a proud franchise?
    I guess you are all right. The NFL refs have a bias for the NE Pats. Did you know they all live in the New England area? This statement makes as much sense as all these conspiracy theories posted here by Bills, Dolphin & Steeler fans to name a few.

  57. TCLARK says: Dec 10, 2008 4:24 PM

    It’s easy to see why the haters are so jealous. Look at the posts. Pittsburg, Jets, Fins, Bills, Colts fans. We ahve owned them for so long (Colts are about even) and acomplished so much more (than even the colts) The only logic they have is distorted with anger and jealousy. Belive me I’m a Pats fan living in Indiana. I wear my (OLD SCHOOL w/ Patriot Pete) hat almost every day. For over a decade I never heard a peep. If anything I got some pity. Colts stunk back then and so did the Pats. For the past three years I get so much crap from complete strangers. The grocery store, best buy, and the most astonoshing, last week a BANK MANAGER!!!! A freaking Bank manager, blew me shit!!!! A paying customer? Needless to say I am switching banks. PS pre Colts superbowl, It was very rare to meet a REAL Colts fan. I have a freind that got a Colts tatoo when they where 3-13. Thats the type of fan I don’t mind hearing crap from. He paid his dues. Fair weather “Johnny come lately’s” will all go back to watching the Pacers when the Colts fall apart. Sorry for the rambling, but I now what it’s like to be discriminated against. Leave us fans alone! We didn’t do anything. I’m loyal to my team. I will not cave to the hate mongers! All it does is make me hate your team!

  58. thepatriotsneverhold says: Dec 10, 2008 5:08 PM

    wow. breaking news.

  59. Bradybunch says: Dec 10, 2008 5:32 PM

    The funny thing about haters. They change their argument to fit their complaint. The same guys posting “everyone has injurys deal with it!” are the ones that couldn’t log on fast enough to let us know “Your team is done with out Tom Brady! You’ll be lucky to win 5 games with out Brady!” But that didn’t happen did it? Same thing about “Spy Gate” “You can’t win without cheating” Well they are 24-6 sence. That also defeats the Belicheck can’t win with out Brady agument as well. It’s just gotta eat up the haters insides to be so wrong so often.

  60. MaineMan says: Dec 10, 2008 6:00 PM

    AND, if you add up all the penalties called on the Pats’ opponents this season, that number is among the lowest in the league, too. And, in terms of profiting from flags thrown on opponents – first downs gained by penalty – the Jets have a huge lead in that department.
    Citing stats out of context is bullshit.

  61. Ralphie says: Dec 10, 2008 8:46 PM

    I’m not surprised, Bank Managers are the worst. And Indiana Bank Managers are the absolute freakin’ scum of the earth, right up there with Lawyers and Pedophiles.

  62. mark0226 says: Dec 10, 2008 9:59 PM

    Ralphie says: So what’s the Jets excuse genius? The Jets play a schedule with the AFC East and AFC West that’s a mirror image of the Pats, and when you put their opponents side by side they play 12 common teams in 08. I didn’t see the Jests playing the Steelers or Colts this year either, but those lucky Jests got the 1 win, cream-puff Bengals. Yeah, it must be the soft schedule.
    The strength of schedule is determined by last year’s W/L record. The Jets (4-12) had to play NE (16-0) twice.
    The Blast Furnace says: We’ve all seen the officials take over games at pivitol [sic] moments.
    Like the NE vs. BAL game last year to keep the streak alive. NE all but lost until several pivotal calls at the end of the game, all going the Patriots’ way. I’m sure it’s just coincidence.

  63. TBIH says: Dec 10, 2008 11:51 PM

    Wait a second…are you telling me the league is biased in favor of the Pats?
    Come on.
    The next thing you will tell me is that water is wet and the sky is blue.
    EVERYONE knows Goodell has his job b/c of Jones and Kraft…and EVERYONE knows both the Cowboys and the Pats get the benefits of the doubt when it comes to penalties, suspensions, schedules, etc.
    Folks…trust me…this is COMMON knowledge around the league…I’m just surprised it’s actually get some press. No “real” reporter will cover this story for fear of the “wraith of Der Kommisar”…bank on it.

  64. olcap says: Dec 11, 2008 12:03 PM

    More evidence of the NFL’s involvement in helping the Cheatriots do what they do best – CHEAT.

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