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NFL MOVES THREE WEEK SEVENTEEN GAMES

The NFL has announced that three Week Seventeen games will be moved from 1:00 p.m. EST to 4:15 p.m. EST.
As expected, the Dolphins-Jets showdown will shift to a late-afternoon kickoff.  Jacksonville at Baltimore also has been moved to a 4:15 p.m. EST start.  Both games will be televised on CBS.
On FOX, the Dallas at Philadelphia game, which is oozing with playoff possibilities, has been moved to 4:15 p.m. EST as well.
The shift means that the Jets will know whether they’re playing for a division title or whether they’re simply trying to help their arch rivals from New England secure the AFC East crown.  The Pats-Bills game starts at 1:00 p.m. EST, and should be resolved before the Fins-Jets game begins.
If New England wins, the Jets victory would result in the Patriots winning the AFC East.  If New England loses, the winner of the late game between Miami and New York would secure the division crown.
The Cowboys-Eagles game also could be a playoff play-in game if the Raiders upset the Bucs in one of the other early games on Sunday.  Regardless of the outcome, however, a win by the Cowboys would guaranteed a playoff berth, thanks to Tampa’s 41-24 loss to the Chargers on Sunday.
UPDATE:  A couple of readers have made a great point — the Jets won’t only be playing for the Pats if New England wins the early game.  The Jets could still nab a wild-card berth if they beat the Fins and if the Ravens lose to Jacksonville.  And that would mean the Jets would travel to Foxborough in the wild-card round.

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44 Responses to “NFL MOVES THREE WEEK SEVENTEEN GAMES”
  1. PFTiswhatitis says: Dec 22, 2008 11:08 AM

    So lame. Jets/Miami and Pats/Buffalo should be at the same time.

  2. ctpatsfan77 says: Dec 22, 2008 11:09 AM

    Mike–
    You missed the more obvious implication of the moves. It means that the Jets CANNOT simply mail this one in–because they still have the chance at a playoff berth if they win and the Ravens lose, even if the Patriots beat Buffalo.

  3. gosox2673 says: Dec 22, 2008 11:10 AM

    They just completely F’d the Patriots

  4. ...LIKE A HAM SANDWICH says: Dec 22, 2008 11:15 AM

    This is good for the Pats isnt it, can’t the Jets and pats both get in if NE beats Buf, NYJ beat Miami, and Jacksonville beats Balt?
    If the Balt game stayed at 1, the Jets would alreayd know if they are eliminated before there game starts, now they have to try to beat the fins because they will be rooting for a Baltimore loss to occur while they are playing.

  5. Ravens says: Dec 22, 2008 11:17 AM

    The Jets will still have something to play for even if the Pats win at 1 — the Wild Card, if the Ravens lose to the Jags, during their concurrent 4 p.m. game.
    But if the Bucs beat Oakland at 1 p.m., then the Eagles will have nothing to play for at 4 p.m. — other than pride, since they’ll be eliminated. I think the NFL should have moved the Tampa game to 4 as well, to avoid a situation where the Eagles are eliminated just before kickoff.

  6. CopesCabana says: Dec 22, 2008 11:18 AM

    If the Pats win the Jets should definately give up the game. Favre can do his old laydown for the sack routine. Anything to screw over the Pats is good Karma.

  7. CopesCabana says: Dec 22, 2008 11:20 AM

    Forgot about the Baltimore game. Will the Pats luck ever end?

  8. olcap says: Dec 22, 2008 11:20 AM

    Goodell has no doubt already given the officials for both the Cheatriots/Bills and Jets/Dolpins games their orders for how those games will be called.
    Knowing that Goodell’s favorite team is the Cheatriots, look for key calls by the officials to hand the AFC East crown to the Cheatriots. There will be calls from both games that, in the week following the game, the NFL will announce that some calls were bad calls, but, “Oh well, the end justifies the means.” Goodell’s NFL reeks with corruption.

  9. Rob0769 says: Dec 22, 2008 11:23 AM

    Can Mangini really tank the game and watch Pennington lead the Dolphins from 1-15 to 11-5 and AFC East Champions, doesn’t his and Tannebaum’s job security drop exponentially. Mangini is may be fired if they don’t make the playoffs. But if the Jets miss the playoffs with Favre and Pennington wins the division, Tangini will most likely be shown the door. Mangini is playing for both his and his friend’s job on Sunday whether the Pats win or not.

  10. ...LIKE A HAM SANDWICH says: Dec 22, 2008 11:24 AM

    No mangini cannot tank, if you read above, the Jets will still be playing for the playoffs even if NE wins because a win over the dolphins and a Balt loss to Jacksonville gives them the wildcard…

  11. ...LIKE A HAM SANDWICH says: Dec 22, 2008 11:28 AM

    Its not bad for NE, read the comments above.

  12. FillyFinatic says: Dec 22, 2008 11:29 AM

    Question is: Would mangenious lay low and screw the patriots out of a AFC East title – if that scenerio is presented?

  13. Mistress Rachael says: Dec 22, 2008 11:30 AM

    This is bad for NE, but also bad for Miami if in bad weather. Gets real cold in Giant stadium @ 4 PM….As usual, Goodells roots w/the jets show up big.

  14. TxPatsFan says: Dec 22, 2008 11:31 AM

    Rob0769:
    In point of fact, Mangini doesn’t play at all. As soon as the Jest look at the scoreboard and see the Ravens up big–likely early–their fight is gone.

  15. empty13 says: Dec 22, 2008 11:37 AM

    i dont see the eagles tanking. they will want to hammer dallas.

  16. Shady says: Dec 22, 2008 11:40 AM

    Rachael, any colder than it was in KC? That was 10/11F for the entire game not including wind chill.

  17. Ravens says: Dec 22, 2008 11:40 AM

    Dolphins handled cold weather yesterday a lot better than the Jets.

  18. lezmaka says: Dec 22, 2008 11:44 AM

    “This is bad for NE, but also bad for Miami if in bad weather. Gets real cold in Giant stadium @ 4 PM….As usual, Goodells roots w/the jets show up big.”
    Yeah, it doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that it’s a huge game that will decide who wins the AFC East or anything like that. It’s because Goodell wants to give the Jets an advantage since the Dolphins can’t win a game if it’s only 10 degrees with a wind chill of -12. Oh wait, nevermind.

  19. daubs says: Dec 22, 2008 11:44 AM

    RE: “This is bad for NE, but also bad for Miami if in bad weather. Gets real cold in Giant stadium @ 4 PM”
    Miami just played in KC in freezing conditions yesterday (-10 degrees, -12 WC).
    The only way NY could be worse is with snow…..

  20. rasalas says: Dec 22, 2008 11:45 AM

    It’s funny how the Dolphins have finally reached first place in the AFC East, yet this item is written from the perspective of what happens to the Jets and the Patriots this weekend.

  21. booodaa says: Dec 22, 2008 11:47 AM

    Here we go with the clever “cheatriots” (hehe). grow up. goodell’s favorite team? he has said in an interveiw the colts. but lets not be jealous of the patriots cause your team sucks. as a fan look at a great franchise. i mean everyone says we cheat but we get caught and then go 16-0! haha… whats your point? now the officials are getting orders on how to call the game? hahaha look at the patriots key losses… the last jets game the call on vrabel 3rd down would have forced a fg. Vrabel didnt even make contact in which u can inside 5 yards but whatever how about some calls in that indy game. i see a lot of steelers fans here how about when it was tied half way through the 3rd. the sad part is for steelers they didnt win the game, the pats lost.
    you’ll never see me or talk to me i wont read your comments so instead of getting all worked up why not just think…” wow, the patriot organization is pretty damn good.” every team will have its day…it wasn’t all that long ago the patriots were 2-15.

  22. bpenlandjr says: Dec 22, 2008 11:48 AM

    Nothing will stop the Jets from losing to the fins. The Jets are entering yet another epic late season collapse. Joe Namath made a deal with the devil to win that Superbowl. Now thes Jets pay for it each and every year….
    J-E-T-S
    SUCK! SUCK! SUCK!

  23. Fail Cat says: Dec 22, 2008 11:50 AM

    I thought about the implications of this on the Pats, and the idea of the Jets tanking it just to stick it to the Patriots BUT…
    Has anyone considered the fact that Mangini is basically playing for his job Sunday. He has the leading rusher in the AFC, a hall of fame quarterback, and a lot of expensive personel and his terrible coaching is costing them their playoff shots despite being the first place team in the AFC east for several weeks. If the Jets blow 4 of the last 5 games of the season Mangini’s head will be on the block, if it isn’t already.

  24. patspsycho says: Dec 22, 2008 11:58 AM

    Not so fast. Favre is 0-6 in cold weather games. Think about that one.

  25. Chris from MD says: Dec 22, 2008 12:01 PM

    If Miami wins, it wins the division, regardless of what the Pats do…

  26. Bill In DC says: Dec 22, 2008 12:09 PM

    empty13,
    True dat. That and they will be wanting to recoup from their Redskins loss.
    Philly will never lay down against Dallas. Will they be able to stop the Cowboys D is another question entirely.

  27. patspsycho says: Dec 22, 2008 12:13 PM

    Also, Florio, “Foxboro” is the word locals use, not “Foxborough.”

  28. rasalas says: Dec 22, 2008 12:14 PM

    “it wasn’t all that long ago the patriots were 2-15.”
    Yeah, apparently they were so bad that they played a 17th game against no one — and still lost it.

  29. westclaims says: Dec 22, 2008 12:18 PM

    Here’s a not so bold (but obvious of late) prediction; COWBOYS AND PATS will SOMEHOW make the playoffs. Trust me. I can’t stand either team, but things magically go their way when they are in need.

  30. Mistress Rachael says: Dec 22, 2008 12:20 PM

    Yes, The Dolphins did play yesterday in the bitter cold and won…But the first half, they were 2 steps slow and their defense sleepwalking….and were fortunate to get it together in the end.
    May not be so easy in NY…While I know the jets have virtually zero playoff history compared to other AFC East teams,,,think about late Dec/Jan Giant games in the bitter cold and wind…made it tough on opposition.
    Dolphins play jets like they did Chiefs yesterday & theres a good chance they lose…and yes 4 pm game helps jets.

  31. shuxion says: Dec 22, 2008 12:23 PM

    @ Failcat.
    Though you make sense with your argument here is my question for you.
    Mike Tannenbaum HATES the Patriots more than anyone, even my buddy Wingnut, and I doubt he loses his job this offseason.
    That being said……..
    I think he would rather see his team go 9-7 and the Patriots miss the playoffs than the Jets go 10-6, take second in the division but the PATS win the division again.
    If the latter happened then I think Mangini would be canned by Tannenbaum. Hell with that talent not making the playoffs seems justified.
    If Tannenbaum is guaranteed to come back, I think the game could be partially tanked.
    Now I am not complaining if they do Tank it, as a PATS fan I understand the PATS have only themselves to blame, had they beat INDY,MIAMI,JETS,STEELERS, or San DIEGO they wouldn’t b in this situation right now.
    Win and control your own destiny.
    Ask Cleveland fans how they feel about Tony Dungy.

  32. shuxion says: Dec 22, 2008 12:25 PM

    Nevermind, just looked it up and if BAL loses then the Jets are in opps….

  33. inmymind says: Dec 22, 2008 12:27 PM

    If the Chiefs lose and the Rams win, the Chiefs get the second pick in the draft. If the Lions win pigs will fly out of my butt. If the Cowboys lose, TO will be out of a job, along with Wade.

  34. Pastabelly says: Dec 22, 2008 12:47 PM

    First, nobody in his right mind believes the Ravens are going to lose to the Jaguars.
    Second, even Jets fans will be rooting for the Dolphins if the Patriots win their 1 pm game and Balt is up by the expected 17 points by halftime. Imagine how stupid the league and Goodell would look if Jets fans were rooting for the Dolphins to beat the Jets on the late flex game?

  35. richpats says: Dec 22, 2008 1:24 PM

    I don’t care how much the Jets or any other team hate the Pats – there is no way in hell the Jets can lose this game and Mangini/Tannenbaum know it. They sold out for Favre and let Pennington go for nothing. Now do you think they are going to let Pennington walk into Giants Stadium in Week 17 and claim the division? Heads would roll. Unless the team just feels sorry for Pennington and just half-asses it – neither would surprise me.

  36. jgarrisn says: Dec 22, 2008 1:43 PM

    Geez, the NFL isn’t even trying to hide their love for the Dallas Glamour-boys!
    NOBODY thinks Oakland is going to fly across the country and beat Tampa Bay and John Grueden.
    And if Tampa Bay wins, Philly is out… as in, nothing to play for.
    If Dallas wins, they’re in.
    Yes, Philly will still want to beat Dallas and TO and play for pride and blah blah blah… but the ALWAYS NFL does EVERYTHING they can to help Dallas along. (i.e. letting Pac-Man back into the league, giving them more home Prime Time games than anyone, and now the flex-scheduling to help push them into the playoffs)
    UN-BE-F’ING-LEAVABLE
    F the NFL. Goodell is Jerry Jones’ puppet.

  37. Murabma says: Dec 22, 2008 1:52 PM

    “Here’s a not so bold (but obvious of late) prediction; COWBOYS AND PATS will SOMEHOW make the playoffs. Trust me. I can’t stand either team, but things magically go their way when they are in need.”
    Couldn’t agree more–personally, I suspect that “magic” comes from a combination of the networks (who love the ratings the ‘Pokes and Pats* bring so much that they even went into business with Kraft on Patriette Place) and the League itself in the persona of Mike Pereira and his boys’ incredibly horrible officiating in their games…..

  38. mightyjoscro says: Dec 22, 2008 2:01 PM

    Everyone is missing the real implication of this. Both the miami and jacksonville games being moved to 4:15 screws us dolphins fans living in jacksonville. This is all because of Hochuli, if he had got it right in week one the dolphins would be on in prime time, but now i’m going to have to go to some sports bar and eat crappy wings and watch the game without sound surrounded by idiots. Thanks a lot Hochuli.

  39. neilpountney says: Dec 22, 2008 2:05 PM

    I don’t care what anyone says this definitely places the Patriots in an unfair situation.
    Roger Goodell goes on and on about integrity and honesty in the NFL well he has just exposed the league and teams within the league to a situation in which people can question what happens and he had absolutely no need to this.
    Apparently it is only the players that are subject to these rules and it excludes the NFL staff.
    To those who say it has no effect, you do not know the game or indeed anything about competitive sports.
    Just another case of do as I say, not as I do!

  40. Kevin from Philly says: Dec 22, 2008 2:36 PM

    I seriously recommend that Dallas fans not come to the Linc this week. Even if we win, there’s going to be a lot of disgruntled fans and since the rowdies can’t take it out on Andy, the next best thing is anyone with a silver & blue star on. Not sayin’ it’s right, but you have been warned.

  41. skiingcow says: Dec 22, 2008 4:07 PM

    Um, forgive my lack of knowledge about time…
    If Baltimore and the Pats both kick off at 1pm, won’t the Jets
    still know their fate prior to kick off of their 415 game?
    Obviously, they have another ‘out’- Balt losing, but still, both
    those outcomes will be known prior to the start of the Jets game (or early in the 1st half anyway.
    You’d think to ensure everyone is giving their best effort the league
    would have thought twice about moving them…if they all went off
    at the same time, they could expect 100% from the Jets.

  42. jcdavey says: Dec 22, 2008 5:15 PM

    the nfl just decided to F the patriots purely for ratings
    i hate the pats, but everyone and their mother knows, that for fair play, you make teams shooting for the same playoff spot, play at the same time in a final week
    this is a travesty, and as i’ve said, i hate the pats to death

  43. bpenlandjr says: Dec 22, 2008 6:33 PM

    Mistress Rachael says:
    December 22nd, 2008 at 12:20 pm
    Yes, The Dolphins did play yesterday in the bitter cold and won…But the first half, they were 2 steps slow and their defense sleepwalking….and were fortunate to get it together in the end.
    May not be so easy in NY…While I know the jets have virtually zero playoff history compared to other AFC East teams,,,think about late Dec/Jan Giant games in the bitter cold and wind…made it tough on opposition.
    Dolphins play jets like they did Chiefs yesterday & theres a good chance they lose…and yes 4 pm game helps jets.
    ———————————————————
    Let’s get this right: The Dolphins play in 10degree cold, windy weather and end up winning a team by nearly shutting them out in the second half, while their offense racks up 38 points, meanwhile the Jets play in an equally cold game, but with snow, and only manage 3 points against a team that had only won 2 games previously. And now, all of a sudden, the Dolphins have to worry about the cold weather?? This is typical Jets-fan delusional crap.
    J-E-T-S
    SUCK! SUCK! SUCK!

  44. bgj47 says: Dec 22, 2008 8:51 PM

    I remember when we first got Bledsoe and still sucked, and we played the Bengals and both the Pats and Bengals were maybe like 1-12. Bengals had David Klinger (what a great draft pick he was) and we were all calling that game the “Toilet Bowl”. God, I remember when being a Pats fan meant getting excited over signing Marion Butts, oh how the times have changed.

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