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Several readers have asked, both in the comments and in e-mails, whether the Chiefs can comply with the Rooney Rule by interviewing current head coach Herm Edwards for the job he currently has.
Short answer?  They can’t.
Long answer?  No, they cannot.
Adam Schefter of NFLN pointed out last week that the Rooney Rule isn’t satisfied by interviewing the guy who currently holds the job.  The Rooney Rule requires at least one minority candidate to be interviewed for each vacancy.
So the first question is whether the Chiefs will fire Edwards.  The Rooney Rule isn’t relevant until they answer that question in the affirmative.

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  1. John says: Jan 21, 2009 10:58 AM

    The Rooney rule is as rediculous as it is annoying.

  2. brauneyz says: Jan 21, 2009 11:02 AM

    Why would you even interview the guy you’re looking to replace? It’s not like Herm’s been an interim coach and needs to be included in the process of all available candidates. ???

  3. jasonjfrench says: Jan 21, 2009 11:02 AM

    Herm edwards is an awesome coach and he came pretty close to coaching the new york jets, the greatest professional sports franchise in the universe, to glory against the Steelers to advance to the AFC Championship game, but they were a Doug Brien field goal short. But anyway, herm is a great,smart coach and any team would be lucky to have him. Plus his press conferences are second to none.
    Herm edwards 2009 coach of the year, place your bets.

  4. NoKidding says: Jan 21, 2009 11:04 AM

    It is a stoopid rule.

  5. empty13 says: Jan 21, 2009 11:06 AM

    It is ludicrous.
    Folks, if and when whites become the minority here, do ya think the new majority will bother trying to give anyone of the former majority any kind of shake?
    Get real.
    Screw the rooney rule.

  6. litzsout619 says: Jan 21, 2009 11:09 AM

    DO they let men tryout for cheerleading in the NFL?

  7. tiktokdok says: Jan 21, 2009 11:10 AM

    “Folks, if and when whites become the minority here, do ya think the new majority will bother trying to give anyone of the former majority any kind of shake?”

  8. alansaysyo says: Jan 21, 2009 11:10 AM

    So a team that proved it wasn’t favoring whites by hiring a minority coach a few seasons ago must now prove they aren’t biased again after firing a minority coach?
    Seems like any team that hires a minority coach and employs him for three or more seasons should be exempt from the Rooney Rule FOREVER.

  9. dbartdog says: Jan 21, 2009 11:13 AM

    NFL is becoming the dumbest corporation in the world. This rule is pathetic. And if I were black, I’d be offended!

  10. Ogie Oglethorpe says: Jan 21, 2009 11:19 AM

    I Have A Dream…
    …of a day when Florio no longer wastes our time with Rooney Rule posts.

  11. The Blast Furnace says: Jan 21, 2009 11:19 AM

    So a team hires a black coach (who sucks azz) then when they fire him they have to go ahead and interview another black coach to prove that they are not discriminating against blacks?
    In the words of LL – “so ridiculous”.

  12. Brant says: Jan 21, 2009 11:28 AM

    Perhaps teams that just fired a minority coach, or just had one leave/retire (i.e. Dungy) should get a one time exemption from the rule on that next hire.

  13. Klutch says: Jan 21, 2009 11:35 AM

    I still hate the rule either way but there should be no requirement if AT LEAST the outgoing head coach is a “minority”

  14. soundmind says: Jan 21, 2009 11:38 AM

    Even Charles Barkley thinks this rule is trrribl.

  15. Fade 2 Black says: Jan 21, 2009 11:45 AM

    The Rooney Rule works.
    And it keeps the federal government outta football.

  16. lionsFTW says: Jan 21, 2009 11:47 AM

    It’s redundant for me to say it but I will.
    The Rooney Rule sucks.

  17. Osiris33 says: Jan 21, 2009 11:54 AM

    Perhaps they can just scrap this stooopit rule.

  18. kbtegp says: Jan 21, 2009 11:58 AM

    So, if they fire Edwards first and then interview him, would that satisfy the rule? If the man has to interview to keep the job he already has, that is essentially what has happened anyway…

  19. footballmanic says: Jan 21, 2009 12:00 PM

    What if they interview Norm Chow or Ron Rivera?
    Does that count, or should they change it from the “Rooney Rule” to the “Token Black Guy Rule”?

  20. AdamF says: Jan 21, 2009 12:01 PM

    From just reading the headline here I thought Florio was trying to convince us that Herm Edwards wasn’t black!

  21. pyr8fan says: Jan 21, 2009 12:09 PM

    “Ogie Oglethorpe says: I Have A Dream…of a day when Florio no longer wastes our time with Rooney Rule posts. ”
    I have a dream……of a day when minorities can a job based on qualifications and not just to meet a quota.
    The Prez is black…shouldn’t the “fair shake” bitchin’ come to an end now?

  22. KaPtainavy says: Jan 21, 2009 12:10 PM

    Can we have a rule were they have to interview a majority coach too, cause last time i checked the Buccaneers just hired a minority but never interview any majority coaches? Does anybody else find something wrong with this?

  23. Fizzix says: Jan 21, 2009 12:16 PM

    If the rule “requires at least one minority candidate to be interviewed for each vacancy” couldn’t they bypass the rule by not having a vacancy?
    Hire the new head coach before letting the old one go.
    No vacancy.

  24. Rob0769 says: Jan 21, 2009 12:18 PM

    Why would anyone interview for a job they already had? How does that even make sense? Why is this even a topic on this website? Did people really think that the Chiefs could circumvent the Rooney Rule by interviewing the head coach who is already under contract? It is a stupid question that really didn’t deserve the attention it is getting.

  25. zygi milf says: Jan 21, 2009 12:20 PM

    John says:
    January 21st, 2009 at 10:58 am
    The Rooney rule is as rediculous as it is annoying.
    What is annoying is how many in PFT Planet can’t spell ridiculous.

  26. SFerg1 says: Jan 21, 2009 12:25 PM

    It’s obvious that this rule is ridiculous. This country should be all about the best man for the job—regardless of skin color. How come women don’t have to be interviewed…you see…where does it stop.

  27. a Cheerleader says: Jan 21, 2009 12:29 PM

    Who do they consider a “minority”? Anyone who is less than 50% “white”? What are all the countries of origin that we consider “white”? If someone is 49% “white” and 51% “other”, do they qualify for being a “minority”? What about someone who is 51% “white” and 49% “other”, do they fit as a “minority”? Just something I’ve always wondered…

  28. mb691 says: Jan 21, 2009 12:29 PM

    So…if you interview a white Canadian-American or Mexican-American coach does it satisfy the rule??

  29. LL Live says: Jan 21, 2009 12:31 PM

    You are Rooney Ruling us to death

  30. Vox Veritas says: Jan 21, 2009 12:43 PM

    I’m gone sine yo pitty on the runny kine! SEPATOWN!!!!1!

  31. Vox Veritas says: Jan 21, 2009 12:45 PM

    Joe Pisarcik thinks that Herm Edwards is overrated.

  32. bets super bowl says: Jan 21, 2009 1:06 PM

    I think for the Rooney Rule, basically you should have to interview at least one of every minority, one of each sex, at least one adult, one teen and one child, and also one sober person and one alcoholic.

  33. philly says: Jan 21, 2009 1:33 PM

    First NFL coaches.. What next the presidency?

  34. Deadguy says: Jan 21, 2009 1:54 PM

    It’s obviously a good rule. States nothing about forcing teams to hire a minority coach… just gives them a shot. Who knows… maybe one of these constantly coach changing teams may end up finding their next Mike Tomlin.
    Too bad if you don’t like it. Besides… most people know that the “best man” doesn’t always get the job. Sometimes, it’s who you know.

  35. Brotha2theNight says: Jan 21, 2009 1:54 PM

    For all those Rooney rule haters, get real. NFL Owners and GMs for years were uncomfortable beholding their teams to someone who’s been different. This rule only asks teams to interview guys who previously wouldn’t get consideration simply because they had different skin color, different music tastes, or general upbringings.
    Look at the Steelers as a perfect example, the franchise the rule was borne from. They could have had Ken Whisenhunt or Mike Tomlin and as we see right now, both would have been great hires. In year two for both coaches, they made it to the Super Bowl. Without the rule, how many job interviews do you really think Mike Tomlin would have obtained?
    If you look at the offseason hires, not a single minority coach was hired that wasn’t promoted from within the organization (Singletary, Caldwell and Morris). If Herm Edwards is fired, Kansas City should interview Leslie Frazier. Pioli can interview Shanahan, Cower, Ferentz and whomever he wants as well, but give the hottest assistant available a chance because he’s qualified as well as black.
    At least the NFL is doing something to level the playing field. In a multi-billion corporation run by a good ol’ boys network, they at least acknowledge a history of institutional racism and have inacted a rule to correct it. College Football is ridiculous. How Charlie Strong isn’t a head coach is amazing. Sure Sylvester Croom didn’t succeed at Mississippi State, but will anybody succeed in that job.

  36. CapsLockKey says: Jan 21, 2009 2:01 PM

    “Why would anyone interview for a job they already had? How does that even make sense?….. ”
    Guess you’ve never seen Office Space.

  37. KCJuggernaut05 says: Jan 21, 2009 2:22 PM

    It is an easy rule to comply with. Without it some coaches will go overlooked. If the Chiefs were to interview a Chow or Rivera, it would be in compliance because the Rooney Rule requires that teams interview minority candidates and both Norm and Ron are minorities.
    I’m just disgusted by the fact that people don’t see this as a good rule. For those Steelers fans, Tomlin wouldn’t have been around. They were going to name either Whisenhunt or Grimm as their head coach until they interviewed Tomlin and were blown away.
    Why would the Chiefs want to fire Herm and interview him again? In no business would you see that happen. Furthermore, the rumor is that they want Todd Haley but they still need to interview more than just him because they don’t want what happened to the Lions when they hand picked Mooch a few years back and didn’t interview a minority and then were slapped with a fine.

  38. a Cheerleader says: Jan 21, 2009 2:35 PM

    Most Viking fans I know wanted Tomlin to be our head coach and did NOT want him leaving (he was our DC). So I think your logic is faulty, as I know I would have been thrilled for him to have taken the reigns in Minnesota instead of Chilly.

  39. tdk24 says: Jan 21, 2009 2:37 PM

    Can they satisfy the rule by interviewing a gay coach?

  40. Deadguy says: Jan 21, 2009 3:10 PM

    “Can they satisfy the rule by interviewing a gay coach?”
    Worked for New England.

  41. Brotha2theNight says: Jan 21, 2009 3:14 PM

    a cheerleader,
    As a Bears fan, I’ll be cordial in my response but interviewing a coach already on staff isn’t really going outside the box. As I mentioned, all the minority hires this season were from within their organizations. Personally, I’d have rather had the Bucanneers had to interview other candidates outside the organization as well besides Morris, both white and black.
    Your situation in Minnesota is likely to be a good one where if Chilly doesn’t succeed, you can fire him during or after the season and hire Frazier before anyone else. If Childress is fired mid-season, Frazier gets a crack to mold a team before anyone else gets their hands on it.
    However, I truly believe teams are built in training camp and not being the head guy in training camp would have a lasting impression in the second half of the season. Whether the head coach or the defensive coordinator, it’s Frazier’s job to get them produce and with the talent they have assuming the Williams’ don’t get rough suspensions, he should continue to succeed.
    I’m curious how Jim Mora Jr. and Seattle avoided the rooney rule. I don’t have a problem with coach in waiting because the Colts did the exact same thing. I’m just curious how they were allowed to do it under NFL rules.

  42. Vox Veritas says: Jan 21, 2009 3:22 PM

    “I’m just disgusted by the fact that people don’t see this as a good rule. For those Steelers fans, Tomlin wouldn’t have been around.”
    So you’re saying that Dan Rooney is a racist who would not have considered Tomlin because of the color of his skin if not for the conditions set forth by the “Rooney Rule”?

  43. ldm1 says: Jan 22, 2009 8:51 AM

    The Rooney Rule is no longer necessary, the NFL has done the best job of giving minorities opportunities of any industry out there.
    I’d like to see a few female GMs or other front office executives though. Maybe even a female coach. Hey why not, after all men can coach women’s sports.

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