Comments on: SIMEON RICE CALLS JON GRUDEN A "SCUMBAG"

By: Cadmus

Cadmus — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:43:26 +0000

Simeon Rice’s gripe…he got cut when he got injured after he “balled” for Gruden. Did the same to Chris Simms and Joey Galloway. And, I thought to myself…do you think Ronnie Lott and Tom Rathman had the same hard feelings toward Bill Walsh after he cut them? Simeon complains that Gruden went out and got Garcia to challenge Griese, which muddled the QB situation…and it reminded me of Walsh trading for Steve Young while he still had Joe Montana. If anything, Gruden was muddling through QB-crap, and Walsh was working with greatness. Do you think the linebackers like Keena Turner thought Walsh was a scumbag for how he handled that?
Walsh is a genius and revered…Gruden opperates on the same premise and is a scumbag. I think maybe Simeon Rice is too close to the forrest to see the trees.

By: wolverine21

wolverine21 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:40 +0000

who is simeon rice?

By: MeLLo

MeLLo — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:59:06 +0000

So I guess Tony Dungy is a “scumbag” too for releasing Simeon from the Colts the same year Gruden cut him from the Bucs. If it was just a little shoulder injury & he could play in the future don’t you think another team would have given Rice a chance in the two years since? Sounds like sour grapes to me. Gruden wasn’t the GM as well, he didn’t have final say.

By: purplepride

purplepride — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:48:41 +0000

I think all these former players need to get off the ‘Bash Gruden’ bandwagon and have a bowl of STFU. Classless!!

By: Anthony

Anthony — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:57:06 +0000

I think there tends to be alot of missunderstanding with the whole gruden situation, in all of his post press conference interviews, he would always say “We are going to do what it takes to win!” and if that means benching a player becuase hes hurt and another player has to pick up the slack, then so be it. there are to many million dollar cry babies in this league!. Gruden is an ol school coach, and it seems like even the players from the superbowl team could handle grudens coaching style, thats why they are bitching. The NFL is all about winning and (money) numbers!

By: JSpicoli

JSpicoli — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:50:41 +0000

Simeon Rice is not exactly the finest source of character evaluations. That said, Gruden is a scumbag.

By: Greig

Greig — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:47:09 +0000

No story here, move along people.
Sim was crying and lying when he was 1st cut and it’s still going on today. Talk about a guy that can;t come to terms with being a washed up self centered chump.
BTW Sim, hows the shoulder? I though it was 2 weeks away from being 100% yet here we are 2 years later and you still have no spot on an NFL roster.

By: coachcaldwell97

coachcaldwell97 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:11:50 +0000

Rice was absolutely correct! That dude Gruden was a lier… sure he took Tampa to the SB but it was Dungy’s team. Rice played hurt and his production never fell off! He came back to early in my opinion when he left Tampa… his pride got the best off him but that’s the type of player he is… he’d try to play hurt! Give him credit!

By: overkil2

overkil2 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:52:11 +0000

“No, no, no, no, that was Dungy’s team…Gruden was along for the ride when that team won the SB. ”
Really? Last time I checked, Dungy couldn’t get it done. Without Gruden there that year, the Bucs don’t win the Superbowl.
Dungy is a good coach, but he can’t win the big one. Even in Indy, they won only 1 SB in spite of his coaching. How do you have that cast there and only win 1 SB?
Gruden may be a scum bag, but he did win a SB which is a lot more than I can say for a good number of the coaches out there right now.

By: onanygivensunday

onanygivensunday — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:42:25 +0000

So Gruden isn’t a players coach boo f’in boo hoo. Who hasn’t worked for a SOB? These guys make millions of dollars and their boss (coach) is not nice to them. What boss is? I’ve got more horror stories working for Mr. Hard Ass in the real world than cry baby Simeon Rice has been traded, and mind you he is doing something he loves and that is playing football and making millions, while we fans work for nightmare bosses and get paid pennies on the dollar.
Do us a favor Simeon Rice and the rest of the softies that played with Gruden, Please SHUT UP! I could give a rats ass.

By: Wrathchild

Wrathchild — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:18:33 +0000

@VBD
“Maybe he is a “scumbag” but looks like Rice is a “crybaby”. Without the “scumbag” Rice woudldn’t have that nice Super Bowl ring. ”
No, no, no, no, that was Dungy’s team…Gruden was along for the ride when that team won the SB.

By: cltbrowns

cltbrowns — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:48:34 +0000

Rice is suprised that he was kicked to the curb when he wasn’t effective. Hello? You play to win the game. If you can’t help win the game they get rid of you.

By: sprbwl3233

sprbwl3233 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:41:38 +0000

Poor Simeon…BOO HOO……..Welcome to the business side of sports.
Isn’t it funny..Mike Shanahan dropped you like a fly in Denver-YOU COULDNT PLAY ANYMORE AND YOU WERE TAKING MORE PLAYS OFF THAN STEPHAN MARBURY
GET OVER IT LOSER

By: BigEd1340am

BigEd1340am — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:21:32 +0000

Damn Sim…that musta been some good ass weed..’no what I’m sayin dog?? How dem sour grapes taste?

By: bender

bender — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:10:30 +0000

Gruden may or may not be a douche (ok he definitely is) but this is a BUSINESS.
If I can’t do my job for a year, I would be fired. Why should an NFL player have it any differently?

By: DC_Bengals_Fan

DC_Bengals_Fan — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:09:04 +0000

Wow. I have never, ever heard multiple former players talk this bad about a former coach. If it’s one guy, maybe he’s disgruntled. But when it’s a bunch of former stars as well as current starting QB, I don’t think you can pin it on the players.
There are a lot of assholes in the coaching biz, but I think this guy has to be the all-time winner.

By: r3philly

r3philly — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:58:02 +0000

I always liked Gruden, but who knows, there must be something to what’s being said…… That being said, Simeon Rice is a loser. The guy got sent home from the Pro Bowl years back by Andy Reid for showing up 2 days late with no excuse!! The same guy told Jim Rome that Pat Tillman did not get his respect because he was a below average player – - with no regard to what he did off the field. Simeon Rice is a scum bag himself.

By: syschipp

syschipp — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:55:42 +0000

I think Rice is a scumbag for the comments he made about Pat Tillman. Rice isn’t half the man Tillman was!

By: chcgokoala

chcgokoala — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:53:36 +0000

12, 13 sacks you did were for paycheck, not Gruden. You are not amateur – getting paid is what you play for. Gruden did for you what he’s been done to: no result – out you go.

By: syschipp

syschipp — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:53:20 +0000

I think Rice is a scumbag for the comments he made about Pat Tillman. Rice is not half the man Tillman was!

By: Frank784

Frank784 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 08:51:45 +0000

This is comical. Sure there was trouble with other players…prima-donnas. Everyone knows the cancer that Keyshawn can be…what did MeCardell do anywhere else when he was traded from tampa? Simeon is just bitter because he got hurt and was forced to retire. He got one year off making +7Million. He was still hurt the following year and asked to take a paycut and be paid 5 Million without even being able to play that next season. He refused and was cut. He signed on with Dungy in Indy, I believe and was cut a week or so later. This is the NFL there are no guaranteed contracts…if you can’t play, you won’t be sitting on the sidelines making $7 million for the next 5 years, Simeon.

By: empty13

empty13 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 07:55:14 +0000

Older players get cut when past their prime and unwilling to accept that or a pay cut.
If u don’t rehab yer injury, who will?
I agree, gruden is difficult.
But he got that team of underachoevers to win a championship. Saint dunghole, mr. Players’ coach, sure didn’t.
Simeon rice? A matador on run plays. One dimensional.

By: gtskyrider

gtskyrider — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:53:18 +0000

As a die-hard Buc Fan….I see thing both ways. Gruden had his good points and he had a heck of a lot of bad ones. Simeon Rice was right, they should have kept him, but also Simeon should have taken the pay cut–he was injured and not really ready to play (he went on to not one team but two–Denver Broncos and the Colts). I wish them both the best, including Bruce Allen; it was time to move on though. Simeon, I would welcome him back to the team for 09 but he will have to be reasonable about the money….he hasn’t played in almost two seasons. I would definitely take him over Kevin Carter; then get some young gun in the draft.

By: smilergrogan

smilergrogan — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 05:50:16 +0000

Steve: I know al is too old to type, so you have to be typing this for him. al so has the pulse of the nfl that he signed javon walker and deangelo hall last off season. he fired baby kiffin after hiring him: he got a year and a couple games.
he wouldn’t let kiffin fire rob ryan, which would seem to make ryan a loyalist, but as soon as he could, ryan got out of there and went to work for mangini. he hires and fires coordinators like other owners change socks. currently, the only people who want to coach there, he doesn’t want apparently. i guess once he has completed the assistant coaches, he will hire a head coach to do what he tells them.
al davis was a great leader of men at one time. sadly, many of the same traits which made him so now prevent him from recognizing that he has lost his fastball (curve and changeup too). Instead of allowing others to take over the day to day operations of his business, al sends out his minions trask and herrera to offer denials of reports most of which turn out to be true. this has eroded the base of all his accomplishments and will turn out to be the most memorable thing about al to a generation. that is sad.
To use an example from your era, al, Joe Louis was a great champ. No one would deny, however, that Joe stayed too long and was a shell of himself in the last few money-driven fights. No one else Al Davis denies this is the case with the raiders, so do yourself a favor, call parcells or someone you respect and ask them off the record if this is true.
regarding simeon rice, i don’t believe him about the stuff about himself. i do believe him about galloway, simms and griese and garcia (and he wanted plummer). i also believe that gruden is a driven disingenuous a-hole that give no thought to the side effects of his actions, and that he would recruit his grandmother one day and cut her the next without even speaking with her if he thought it would improve his team.

By: ebapen

ebapen — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:45:45 +0000

I remember that show about Gruden, and he did appear to be a little douche bag who thinks his poop don’t smell bad.

By: sunflower100

sunflower100 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:37:07 +0000

Not a Bucs fan or live near florida so I don’t know much about the situation down there. The problem with Al Davis isn’t how he pays treats his players it is that he has no stability in his coaching. I also never understood some of his free agency spending.

By: BucNPR

BucNPR — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:22:23 +0000

Thanks for the great years Sim… But alll of the players that you mentioned (And he did not mention Lynch) did NOTHING after the were free of the hell in Tampa. If you were so wrong and you had so much more time left on your career… WHY ARE YOU OUT OF THE LEAGUE?????

By: Tex Big Balls

Tex Big Balls — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:14:57 +0000

That must’ve been quite a shock for the players to go from Tony Dungy to Chuckie.

By: Dok GonZo

Dok GonZo — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:10:12 +0000

When one player rags on his coach, OK, it’s a bruised ego. But when you hear the same story from a number of players, there’s probably something to it. Even if the players aren’t exactly high-character, odds are there’s some truth to their tale.
If Gruden is indeed such a a-hole, then re-uniting Chuckie with Alsie in Oakland sounds fun. But if he really is a king-hell d-bag, how’s about sending him to Cleveland as Benito’s OC. Then let the Browns trade for TO, pick up Pacman off waivers, and sign Lord Favre to carry them to glory. And then … “nuke [Cleveland] from space, it’s the only way to be sure.”

By: dallas1966

dallas1966 — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:35:14 +0000

what come around goes around, u just can’t keep on treating people like a their garbage. as the old saying goes be careful how u treat people those same back u climb to get to the top will be the one u will will see when u hit the bottom. gurden was obsessed with himself especially after taking dungy’s team to the super bowl, afterwards could not regain his so-called offensive guru touch.