http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/ ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.com Mon, 20 May 2013 16:44:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99678 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:11:41 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99678 I don’t think Belichick ever intended to pick this guy. There’s no way of knowing really.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99677 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:29:16 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99677 Andy Katzenmoyer??/ Soe folks should hire someone to think for them before they post. Katzenmoyer was a freakin beast and arguably one of the greatest college linebackers of all time. he never disappeared for long stretchs of games the way Gholston did and Katzenmoyer was a game changer every time he stepped foot on the field. His pro career stalled because of neck injuries that could lead to parlyzation or worse.
Gholston is a bonafied bust at this stage of his pro career no doubt but anyone who thinks this guy has no game or was a dog in college is not that bright or just didn’t pay any attention at all to his college career. He’s a monster rusher off the edge if put in the right scheme. Ask Peppers how much a scheme will affect your game. The dig on VG has ALWAYS been consistency and commitment to hard work. But skill wise? He’s every bit the player Suggs was, it seems clear that it’s what’s upstairs and in his heart that might be different. Let’s see what a guy like Ryan does with him. Big Daddy was a big bust until he got some decent coaching and out of football hell in Cincy, no reason to think it can’t happen with Gholston too now that Mangenius and his cohorts are gone.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99676 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:15:03 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99676 Not only did Belichick trick the Jets into thinking the Pats wanted Gholston ( he sent Vrabel on a phony recruiting mission to Gholston), he also fooled the Jets into thinking he wanted Dwayne Robertson. Can’t wait to see what Bill has in store this year!

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99675 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:41:53 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99675 Hey Da Big G, The Jests suck!

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99674 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:26:14 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99674 Da Big G says: Nothing but BULLSH!T….. That’s all you talk, boy.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99673 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 08:22:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99673 This dude was a dog in college. He just played on a highly overrated college team and as such was highly overrated himself.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99672 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:54:27 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99672 I was awesome in popwarner!

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99671 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:50:53 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99671 Hey Da Big G,
When T-Brady went down you should have seen the hateful words and comments by NY fans(both Giant and Jets).
So…all us cheaters did was go out (with a 7th rd pick at QB who had not started a game since 11th grade) and win 11 games, getting snubbed from the playoffs in the process.
All the Jets did was trade a Chad, who clearly having a better year than Favre, and then give the reigns to Mr. Interception who went on to do what he does best, choke in big games.
Dude, your management team has made some of the worst picks and roster decisions in recent times and for this reason, you will continue to be just an “avg” NY team that may or may not make the playoffs each year.
Good luck with Kellon Clemens… lol
Anyone have a camera?

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99670 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:12:11 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99670 Terrell Suggs was a monster in college on a team with not much around him. Gholston was a very good player in college on a team of All-Americans. You can’t call Gholston a bust yet, but an off and on player in college usually is an off and on player in the pros.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99669 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 06:12:56 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99669 Always makes me laugh when a player is great in college at a certain position…then gets drafted….then NFL wants him to play another position. No wonder many are busts. Let the guy play the position he played in college before we call him a bust. Apparently this year he’ll get the chance….lets judge him in December 2009.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99668 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:03:22 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99668 DL have high bust potential. 2nd only to QBs. Coming out of college they only have like 1 move and they are develop a series of moves and improve their strength (like Merriman?). They almost always take at least a year or two to develop. A few examples are Cortez Kennedy, Warren Sapp, Julius Peppers and Mario Williams. So the jury is still out.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99667 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:46:00 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99667 I remember the last couple weeks before the draft that a lot of the media was saying the guy didn’t show up on game tape and there were concerns that he was just a work out warrior. His stock seemed to keep dropping like a stone, then the Jets took him and all I remember was a flood of posts like ‘he is going to be haunting Tom Brady in his sleep for years to come’ from all the Jets fans…. Please remind me, who was the defensive rookie of the year in 08′???

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99666 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 01:25:16 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99666 BUST ? not yet, but if he tanks this season then ya hes a bust

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99665 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:32:12 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99665 Rex Ryan is a bigger idiot then his bloated old man is

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99664 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:31:26 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99664 Of course Ryan is going to compare him to Suggs (or any decent player for that matter). What did you think he was going to do, come in a can him after the Jets made him a rich man last year? Coaches you know, coach; last I checked they don’t rip players down.
All that said, Gholston sucks.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99663 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:16:33 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99663 Da Big G says:
“Nothing to hang your hat on, but making them out to be in the club of the Lions and Bengals is flat-out dumb”
Last Super Bowl appearance by the Jets – 1969. Can’t believe people don’t treat them like an elite team! One of two more appearances in the next forty years and you might hear whispers of “dynasty”!

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99662 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:38:11 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99662 “Obviously, *at the combine*, I was a good player”
Fixed that for ya, Vern.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99661 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:23:28 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99661 The oppertive words are “in college”.NFL ain’t college Ghoulston. It’s time to play with the big boys. I can’t understand why this guy was rated the no.1 defensive end in the draft. I knew this guy would be a bust especially when that fat rat fink picked him in the first round. Glad to see Mangina picks shit.
Thank you Jerod Mayo.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99660 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:20:41 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99660 Gholston, I played with Terrell Suggs. I knew Terrell Suggs. Terrell Suggs was a friend of mine. Gholston, you are no Terrell Suggs.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99659 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 22:15:32 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99659 I would be shocked if Ghoulston’s NFL career is as good as the NFL career of Archie Griffin.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99658 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:59:58 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99658 The Raiders have drafted some nice LB’s (Thomas Howard and Kirk Morrison), it’s safety (Patrick Bates/ Micheal Huff) that my boys can’t ever seem to land…

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99657 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:58:09 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99657 LT mentioned on Mike Francesa that he is working with Ghoston, but no one else does.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99656 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:51:47 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99656 Ryan is just tying to motivate the guy. Nothing more. He knows what buttons to push on his players. That’s part of the reason he was such a great coordinator. If I were to bet on a current coach to find a way to get the most of Gholston, it’s Ryan.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99655 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:40:07 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99655 “OK, let me see if I have this right. Tannebaum is still calling the shots in New York and Mangina is still a head-coach in this league with a new contract? Ah…um…..
Just goes to show you how dumb so many people are today in important positions.”
Of course, this wasn’t said by a Cheatriots hater. Nah, just an objective observation by a casual NFL fan…
The funniest “fact I’ve been hearing whenever there’s a Gholston discussion is when the Pats fans aka Cheatriots bandwagon jumpers, holler “Ha! Belichick and Pioli fleeced Mangini again! They acted as if they were interested in VG and the Jets fell for it! They never would’ve picked him!”
Yeah, right. Like yuou people just KNOW that Belicheat didn’t want Gholston.
All you stupid punks screaming “BUST! BUST! BUST!” etc., need to calm the *&%$ down. Can we please not judge a kid on one year?!
The kid changed to a position that he’d never played before (probably the wrong move; just put him in pass-rushing situations and let him do what he does best instead of expecting him to cover RBs and TEs, which he’d never done before), and nobody said it was gonna be easy.
Give him some time. Comments like “Jets suck!” and “that’s why the New York Jets are the New York Jets” are plain stupid. Like any other team has never had a high draft pick that didn’t work out right away.
And I always love the “Jets suck!” comment. Well thought out and intelligent. FYI, you dopes, the Jets have had only 3 losing seasons in the last 10 years. Nothing to hang your hat on, but making them out to be in the club of the Lions and Bengals is flat-out dumb, fueled by Patsuckers, and Jets fans themselves, who’re mostly whining Met fans…
Florio claimed that Matt Ryan would be a bust, amd how does that look now?! Yeah, he has great credibility when it comes to projecting talent, so i’m sure Gholston is done. Because Florio himself said so…

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99654 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:34:03 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99654 Any one remember Andy Katzenmoyer?

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99653 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:11:05 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99653 Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Ahhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Sorry, but for Rexy to compare a bust like Gholston to Suggs is the biggest con-job I have ever read!!!!!!!
And the sad part is…….Gholston believed him. Ahhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Man, that’s funny.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99652 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:07:25 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99652 Al Davis passed on him,so the future looks bright for Mr. Golston.

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99651 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:06:23 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99651 Al Davis passed on him,so the furture looks bright for Mr.Golston

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99650 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:00:39 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99650 OK, let me see if I have this right. Tannebaum is still calling the shots in New York and Mangina is still a head-coach in this league with a new contract? Ah…um…..
Just goes to show you how dumb so many people are today in important positions.
(big fart….)

]]> http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/02/15/jets-gholston-obviously-in-college-i-was-a-good-player/#comment-99649 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:58:12 +0000 http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=22816#comment-99649 Another work out warrior who could lift a bus, but can’t play football at a pro level. 13 tackles in 15 games is not quite worth the money he got.

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