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Boom Or Bust for JaMarcus in 2009?

The modern NFL carries with it some harsh realities.  For coaches, the grace period doesn’t last too long beyond the introductory press conference.
Players face even more pressure to perform quickly or else — especially when they play the quarterback position.  And especially when they arrived amid much hype and fanfare.
Let’s face it, under today’s standards Terry Bradshaw would have been pumping gas in South Carolina long before securing his first Super Bowl ring.
So for the No. 1 overall pick in the 2007, his third year could be his last chance to show that he’s the real deal.
But it’s not getting off to a great start for Raiders quarterback JaMarcus Russell.  He skipped the first week of offseason workouts, and as far as we can tell he hasn’t shown up yet for week two.
Recently, coach Tom Cable tried to give Russell some public coaxing.
Said Cable:  “If he can accept the responsibility of being an NFL quarterback, I think that’s working more, working harder, working longer than everybody else, accepting the responsibility that his teammates look to him as the face of the organization, that he has to go above and beyond almost on a daily basis, I think that comes with that position, whether that’s right or wrong, that’s what it is. . . .  If he can accept that and become that, he’ll be fine.  He’ll be great, I think.  Has he done that?  I think during the last six weeks he started to, during the season.  I think thus far in the offseason he’s been around more than ever.  He was never around like this on his own, just watching tape, studying, so that’s a step in the right direction.  I think he has to embrace that, though, for him to be what he should be.”
The fact that Russell hasn’t been around when the studying stopped and the sweating started surely is discouraging for Cable.
“In college, it’s easy,” Cable said.  “At this level, I think there’s so much on that position, so much you ask him to do.  That’s why they’re so critical to your success.  You really look at it and it’s him wanting to be as good as he can be and understanding what it takes to do that.”
And that really is the key, in our view.  Though raw athletic ability can carry players far at most other positions, a quarterback has to be fully and completely immersed in being the best quarterback he can be. 
Making the throw is the easy part.  Figuring out where to deliver the ball after comparing the play called by the sidelines against the pre-snap defensive alignment and deciding while the play clock counts down through single digits whether to change the play and trying to predict which of the defenders might blitz and which ones might not and then taking the ball and trying to notice and process the movements of eleven large, strong men while scanning for teammates who might or might not be doing what they’re supposed to be doing while making sure that one or more of the defensive players hasn’t broken free with designs on breaking his neck is the hard part.
Cable mentioned that Russell is “motivated to not be a failure, to not be the kid from Mobile that couldn’t get it done.”  As we see it, fear of failure isn’t enough, because it’s easy to accept failure when you’ve got millions in the bank telling you otherwise.
Great quarterbacks have an unflinching desire not to “not fail,” but to be great.  It’s a passion that permeates everything they do.
They assume ownership of the fate of the team, and they become fully and completely emotionally invested in whether the franchise rises or falls.
Though we can debate endlessly whether NFL players should be expected to attend optional workouts, the ones who truly aspire to be great don’t view it as work — they view it as an opportunity to achieve the goals they’ve set for themselves.
We’re not writing Russell off just yet.  But whether it’s him or Matt Leinart or Vince Young or Brady Quinn or any other former big man on campus who is content with being rich and moderately famous, it takes something deeper than that to drive a man to make the kind of commitment required to be a truly great NFL quarterback.

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  1. AdamF says: Mar 26, 2009 12:48 PM

    Another question might be…Is Jamarcus Russell failing the Raiders, or have/will the Raiders fail Jamarcus Russell.
    The Raider organization is probably not the most motivating one in the NFL.

  2. Fail Cat says: Mar 26, 2009 12:50 PM

    Is Russell playing for a team other than the Raiders this season?…. Well then that ends the debate doesn’t it: BUST.

  3. bigvinnyinjax says: Mar 26, 2009 12:50 PM

    He’s a JaBust.

  4. FillyFinatic says: Mar 26, 2009 12:51 PM

    Just save yourself an entire article and label him a BUST already

  5. CSP1 says: Mar 26, 2009 12:51 PM

    is Lane Kiffin writing articles for Florio now?

  6. tbtsm15 says: Mar 26, 2009 12:54 PM

    Great insight Florio,
    Fear of failure can only take you so far, namely, mediocrity.
    Passion, on the other hand, wins Superbowls.

  7. Klutch says: Mar 26, 2009 12:56 PM

    Well said.

  8. ChrisJNelson says: Mar 26, 2009 12:58 PM

    Wouldn’t Terry Bradshaw have been dead?

  9. severs28 says: Mar 26, 2009 12:59 PM

    BUST!

  10. Jim Beam says: Mar 26, 2009 1:00 PM

    They assume ownership of the fate of the team, and they become fully and completely emotionally invested in whether the franchise rises or falls.
    cutler is emotional and he gets ripped for it.

  11. AdamF says: Mar 26, 2009 1:01 PM

    Cutler is a PUSSY and he gets ripped for it.

  12. ParkerFly says: Mar 26, 2009 1:03 PM

    If he’s not working any harder than that, then yep, he’s a bust. Go ahead and label it.

  13. eja642 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:04 PM

    “We’re not writing Russell off just yet. But whether it’s him or Matt Leinart or Vince Young or Brady Quinn any other former big man on campus who is content with being rich and moderately famous, it takes something deeper than that to drive a man to make the kind of commitment required to be a truly great NFL quarterback.”
    I liked this post Florio, good stuff.

  14. Fade 2 Black says: Mar 26, 2009 1:05 PM

    Here’s my suggestion for an alternate title.
    “Jamarcus in 2009:
    Will Chunk Butt Put It All Together This Season Or What?”
    Wordy, but that’s the gist of it.
    Hahahahhaaa…..

  15. Swedishmafia says: Mar 26, 2009 1:05 PM

    he’s lazy and if he has “a desire not to suck” he’s going to suck. Sure he can make the big throws, but I’m pretty sure Ryan Leaf could, too.

  16. r8rpaver says: Mar 26, 2009 1:10 PM

    The kids started 18 games… look at eli he was on the verge of being called a bust until he won the s.b … You can’t give up on a KID so fast he needs time and stablity in a staff to become the great QB we know he can be…….ONE NATION

  17. G.R. says: Mar 26, 2009 1:10 PM

    Let me some up overall number 1 draft pick busts for Tom Cable
    Why should Jamrcus Russel have to work hard, when he has already been paid!!!
    Fix the rookie pay scale and I think you would see a lot more draft picks working hard to get paid because they deserve it. Not because they were good in college.

  18. norcaldiscgolf1 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:11 PM

    not sure when his contract is up but my bet is he finally plays somewhat up to the standards set for him coming out of the draft in his final contract year and will get paid somewhere (most likely Oaktown)

  19. ElCabong says: Mar 26, 2009 1:12 PM

    He’s a great player, get over it!

  20. Jampa says: Mar 26, 2009 1:13 PM

    Too bad Rich Gannon is not around anymore to show him how it is done… I think that he needs a strong willed, unselfish quarterback in the team, which neither Andrew Walter, Daunte Culpepper or Tui will ever be.

  21. TCLARK says: Mar 26, 2009 1:16 PM

    I’m impressed with the way cach Cable critisized JR without sounding negative. It will however, be intresting to see if JR is smart enough to see the well worded critisizm and not mistake it as a complement.

  22. Brewster says: Mar 26, 2009 1:20 PM

    He hasn’t shown up for week 2 offseason workouts because he’s trying to get down to under 300 lbs before he shows up.
    Let the comparisons to another Raiders first round QB bust Todd Marinovich, begin.

  23. VonClausewitz says: Mar 26, 2009 1:23 PM

    If I were a statistician and someone asked me to come up with the odds of a high first round draft qb making it in the pros, I’d probably look at the last 20 years and churn some numbers. And then I’d tell you to that the chance of success is directly proportional to how good the team/organization is and whether the player had to start immediately. Using that metric there have only been 2 first round drafts in the last 10 years who can be considered successes when put on a bad team and who started immediately – Peyton Manning and Matt Ryan. And even then Manning was brought in at the beginning of Polian’s reign who was a proven winner. The rest of the first round qb success stories have had time at backup or started on winning teams or both, invariably. Then you’d slap me on the back, buy me a beer and say “those are pretty damning statistics son”, or something like that.
    In all probability Russell’s gonna be a bust, not because he doesn’t have the talent (he surely does) but because he’s in a bad organization and he’s under those immediate, stupid expectations. He could be a football Einstein and it wouldn’t matter in that environment. Sadly.

  24. CowherChin says: Mar 26, 2009 1:23 PM

    to quote Al Davis letter to Lane,
    “Jamarcus is a great player. Get over it.”
    not a bust?

  25. Tek9 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:23 PM

    The paragraph starting with “Making the throw is the easy part” I felt was a great summation of how difficult it is to be a QB in this league. The 40 seconds before the ball is snapped are so important and so much is going on, it’s difficult to communicate what exactly is going on in that time period and I feel you did a GREAT job of that in that short yet so simple paragraph.
    I’m really impressed with it b/c as someone who’s played qb ppl ask me what its like and its always been hard for me to really convey what goes on in that time period, but you did it beautifuly.

  26. el_dude00 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:24 PM

    Lest us not forget this may be his third season in the NFL but only his second true season behind center. Holding out = wasted rookie season. Roll in the fact that he plays for the Raiders and I don’t think we’ll get a true idea of his abilities until after next year.
    Jury is still out on his QB abilities, but as far as being worth the money and the pick they spent on him it’s pretty safe to say he’s trending toward “bust” status.

  27. Brewster says: Mar 26, 2009 1:28 PM

    Take 2 on the russell/Marinovich comparison.
    This from Wikipedia on Marinovich:
    “He has never eaten a Big Mac or an Oreo or a Ding Dong. When he went to birthday parties as a kid, he would take his own cake and ice cream to avoid sugar and refined white flour”
    This from Wikipedia on Russell:
    “He has never seen a Big Mac or an Oreo or a Ding Dong that he hasn’t eaten.”

  28. BIGCHIP says: Mar 26, 2009 1:28 PM

    They assume ownership of the fate of the team, and they become fully and completely emotionally invested in whether the franchise rises or falls.
    cutler is emotional and he gets ripped for it.
    Being emotional is different than being a cry baby biatch wich is what Cutler and Rivers are. As for Ja Bustas he just is not that good of a quarterback i can’t count how many times he missed the easiest throws with no pressure on him. How else do you explain a guy shooting to the top of the draft after a good bowl game against a lousy Notre Dame deffense that should not have been there in the first place.

  29. murray22 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:30 PM

    Maybe JaMarcus is trying to get cut. He might be a bust regardles of where he plays, but being on the Raiders definitely isn’t going to help his career. He was seen as a Daunte Culpepper type QB leaving College. Big arm, but questions about his maturity, motivation and ability to learn and lead. He would have been better off being a back up for a year or two, instead of starting for a train wreck team where 53 guys are playing for themselves, with no team concept at all.

  30. spanky07 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:33 PM

    Has it come to the head coach now having to “coax” a player to get his fat ass to workouts? Clearly these players today have ZERO respect for the game but when they have none for the coaches (see Turd Owens)…then the team should take action. And I know…its just a voluntary workout but for what these guys get paid now…I’d have them working everyday (as in painting the stadium, picking up trash around the stadium, washing my car….etc)

  31. junior says: Mar 26, 2009 1:33 PM

    Either a bunch of idiots or Raider haters so far are commenting. The guy has started about 18 games in the NFL and until this years success of Flacco and Ryan, it was expected that QB’s would struggle to find their rythym in this league.
    Will Flacco and Ryan enjoy success again? Nobody knows but if they don’t will they be busts a la Vince Young? Jay Cutler has more losses than Russell has starts.
    Bottom line, it’s too early to tell.

  32. Raidersfan_in_Id says: Mar 26, 2009 1:34 PM

    I just heard that the Raiders just signed a WR is that true? If thats so than how

  33. Kyle Boller says: Mar 26, 2009 1:36 PM

    Hey.., if you’re not sure if JaMarcus is going to be ‘the guy’ for you…, please give me a call.

  34. JuicyMelon says: Mar 26, 2009 1:37 PM

    JaMarcus is not a bust and anyone that says so doesn’t pay much attention to football. Even if J is cut from the Raiders he will land in another injury plagued team and have another chance to prove himself. I don’t think you can judge a QB in March because it’s the start of another gruiling season. It might be boom or bust in 2011, but in 2009, that’s just a stretch. Yeah, he has not been as good as advertised, but it’s only been a season and a half and honestly, the Raiders are just not that good. The Cable Guy needs to get the team to believe in him before he calls out his QB.

  35. KCSam says: Mar 26, 2009 1:37 PM

    How can you some of you call him a ‘bust’ when he has only 1 full season in the NFL?? Maybe if the guy had a receiving corps and some lineman who could hold their block for longer than .014 second, the guy would have a chance. If he starts every game this year and still doesn’t “get it”, then I would agree, fire up the ‘Bust’ bus, but it’s not fair to label his just yet…

  36. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 1:38 PM

    Okay… let’s throw out his cameo appearance in 2007 with Lame Kiffin as coach…. 1 start, 4 appearances… with no line and no help from a running game or receivers…
    Let’s take last year and call it his “rookie” year, as it should have been since he did come out as a junior….
    And let’s compare his “rookie” year, to John Elway’s first 15 games as the Bronco’s starter….
    1st 15 Games
    Elway 2,143 yds passing. 48.7% completion. 10 T.D.’s 18 int’s. 56.7 Rating
    Jamarcus Russel first 15 games as a starter in 2008
    2423 yds passing, 53.8% completion, 13 T.D.’s 8 int’s, 77.1 rating
    Hmmm… doesn’t sound too bad for a 23 year old kid that was the youngest starter in the league, went through a midseason coaching change, had no help from the people masquerading as NFL receivers early in the year, and had 3 different playcallers. Seems to me the kid is looking pretty good. Not to mention, the were 3-3 down the stretch, including beating a pretty good Houston team, as well as beating a Tampa team in Tampa that had the playoffs to play for.. all they had to do was win it… not to mention, he brought the team back from 10 down to beat that Tampa team. All of you that want to hate and say he’s a bust, go ahead… but the kid is going to be special.

  37. nickjim316 says: Mar 26, 2009 1:39 PM

    lets be honest!!! if he had a good receiver, even a descent one he would be pretty good, look what him and zach miller did last season, not bad for a so called “bust” but with higgins, curry, and whoever they got it isnt gonna happen, plus with a bad line and mediocre running backs, mcfadden=bust, what would u expect, look at cassel, he had great receivers great line, descent running backs, and look what he did, i guarantee he wont have that much success this year with the chiefs…no doubt

  38. fuber says: Mar 26, 2009 1:45 PM

    Obviously talent alone doesn’t make you a professional athlete. It might make you some cash a front but in the long run you best be disciplined.

  39. Bo Knows says: Mar 26, 2009 1:47 PM

    Jamarcus is not a bust yet, Florio, I never question your Raiders sources but seriously Cable just said this is J-Mac’s best offseason, and that was after Kiffin said he was in the program every day last year. Jerry McDonald and Steve Corkran have not said a word about Jamarcus “missing the offseason program” and if he was really missing the offseason program, they’d be all over this.
    Ideally he should be past the Kordoza line this year and we’ll win 8 games.

  40. Chris from MD says: Mar 26, 2009 1:48 PM

    “They assume ownership of the fate of the team, and they become fully and completely emotionally invested in whether the franchise rises or falls.”
    As soon as I read that, my mind instantly raced to Tim Tebow. Sure, he’s a douchebag, but that promise he made last year to Gator Nation is the kind of thing I’d want from my pro players. I hated Tebow, I didn’t think he deserved the Hiesman, after “The Promise”, I’ve developed a bit of a man-crush on him. Still hate the Gators though.

  41. bigvinnyinjax says: Mar 26, 2009 1:50 PM

    My dear Lord, the name of Ryan Leaf was evoked. That can’t be good.

  42. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 1:51 PM

    Not to mention that if you read the whole article, Russell has been at the Oakland facility working out ALL off season… who knows what he had going on this week….

  43. Mike Florio says: Mar 26, 2009 1:52 PM

    @bwisnasky . . .
    that’s not what the article says. russell was watching game tape. the actual work out program launched last week.
    actually, i don’t think they’re allowed to “work out” at the team facility at all until the offseason program launches.

  44. Wrathchild says: Mar 26, 2009 1:56 PM

    Survey says….BUST.

  45. Valic says: Mar 26, 2009 1:59 PM

    This article fails to mention, Jamarcus Spent most of the off-season as the Raiders facility. Last year he was the first one there, and the last one to leave every day. He watched hundreds of hours of film with the staff when all the other players went home.
    This article reeks of epic fail Florio.
    I’m not buying your book now.

  46. Joe in Raleigh says: Mar 26, 2009 1:59 PM

    Disagree. The best athletes I have known have all been scared to death of failure. They simply can’t stand the notion of not winning because it eats away at their identity.
    Russell’s problem is that he’s wasting his career with the Raiders.

  47. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 1:59 PM

    Florio,
    I’m not talking about your article… I’m talking about the original published “fears” that he wasn’t there when the workouts first started… and yes, Russell, as well as Burgess have both been seen at the Oakland facility this offseason… Burgess because it’s a contract year I’m sure…. but Russell has been working out in Oakland all off season…..

  48. raiduh68 says: Mar 26, 2009 2:00 PM

    The best part of being a Raider fan is listening to all of you Raider-Haters (idiots). You make yourself sound like you know nothing about football because all you like to do is bash a team that you can’t stand. How’s your team doing this offseason? Doubt if you even know because all you do is spend your time commenting on the Raiders and how bad they are. Get a life.

  49. TB81 says: Mar 26, 2009 2:02 PM

    I’m not even a Browns fan and I don’t understand why Brady Quinn was mentioned at the end of this article.
    Granted, he hasn’t done anything in the league yet, but everyone else in the article has had ample starting time.

  50. Chris from MD says: Mar 26, 2009 2:02 PM

    “as well as beating a Tampa team in Tampa that had the playoffs to play for.. all they had to do was win it… not to mention, he brought the team back from 10 down to beat that Tampa team. All of you that want to hate and say he’s a bust, go ahead… but the kid is going to be special. ”
    You’re a moron, did you watch that game? No?
    The running game is what won the game for the Raiders, not J-R.

  51. JoeSixPack says: Mar 26, 2009 2:04 PM

    Teams like the Raiders and 49ers that have been blowing huge amounts of salary cap space on “bust” players will be loving the uncapped year.
    Sure it’ll still cost them money, but they can “erase” mistakes by writing a big check – rather than carry the dead cap space and field a lesser team.
    I’m sure the Patriots and other perrenial winners will continue to do well, but the fact that teams that don’t manage the cap well will be on more of an even playing field certainly won’t help the smart teams

  52. ppdoc says: Mar 26, 2009 2:06 PM

    looking like a Tony Mandrich, Ryan Leaf sized bust.

  53. empty13 says: Mar 26, 2009 2:09 PM

    Bust
    Just like jamarcus the first, I mean, chauncey pullpecker

  54. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 2:09 PM

    @ Florio,
    “Q: Your impressions on JaMarcus so far?
    A: “If he can accept the responsibility of being an NFL quarterback, I think that’s working more, working harder, working longer than everybody else, accepting the responsibility that his teammates look to him as the face of the organization, that he has to go above and beyond almost on a daily basis, I think that comes with that position, whether that’s right or wrong, that’s what it is … If he can accept that and become that, he’ll be fine. He’ll be great, I think. Has he done that? I think during the last six weeks he started to, during the season. I think thus far in the offseason he’s been around more than ever. He was never around like this on his own, just watching tape, studying, so that’s a step in the right direction. I think he has to embrace that, though, for him to be what he should be.”
    Again I quote “I thin thus far int the offseason he’s been around more than ever. He was never around like this on his own, just watching tape, studying, so that’s a step in the right direction”
    Sounds to me like he’s been around the facility in the offseason

  55. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 2:10 PM

    @ Florio…
    My bad… I just reread what you had wrote… and I’m sure you are right.. and I look like an idiot..
    Either way, I think it is WAY too early to call him a bust…..

  56. segwaymandotcom says: Mar 26, 2009 2:14 PM

    It is so DISHEARTENING as a Raider Fan to know that the franchise QB takes millions of dollars and won’t do what it takes. This team has such an opportunity to come together; I hope his (JaMarcus) ego doesn’t get in his way of becoming the player he can be.

  57. warpaint88 says: Mar 26, 2009 2:17 PM

    Hahaha someone referred to JaMarcus as “Chunk Butt” sorry but that made my day.

  58. Battaglia says: Mar 26, 2009 2:20 PM

    It still amazes me how he was even taken as the 1st overall pick. It shows how inept Al Davis really is. He had a good game against Notre Dame in a bowl game, where he threw the ball up to Dwayne bowe and others and they jumped over undersized DB’s to get the ball. It was clear to me he would be an absolute bust in the pros and the fact that it wasnt clear to the Raiders is frightening.

  59. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 2:22 PM

    “You’re a moron, did you watch that game? No?
    The running game is what won the game for the Raiders, not J-R.”
    Yes I did watch the game.. and I do believe JR was 14 of 21 with 2 TD’s…. so I’d have to say, he had something to do with the win ….

  60. HarrisonHits says: Mar 26, 2009 2:26 PM

    BUST

  61. cropguy says: Mar 26, 2009 2:28 PM

    Do you guys think they can trade jamarcus to either:
    - Seattle’s 4th pick or
    - Jacsonville’s 8th pick or
    - San Francisco’s 10th pick
    We can then pick Marck Sanchez (Who knows how to conduct himself as a leader and a QB)
    your thoughts….

  62. ajbchillin23 says: Mar 26, 2009 2:40 PM

    I usually really like this site for information, but in this case the story is written with a lot of anti-Raider bias typical of the media editing parts of what the coach said and leaving things out to make a story.
    From that say Q and A with Coach Cable
    Q: Your impressions on JaMarcus Russell at this point?
    Cable: If he can accept the responsibility of being an NFL quarterback, I think that’s working more, working harder, working longer than everybody else, accepting the
    responsibility that his teammates look to him as the face of the organization, that he has to go above and beyond almost on a daily basis, I think that comes with that position, whether that’s right or wrong, that’s what it is, if he can accept that and become that, he’ll be fine. He’ll be great, I think. Has he done that? I think during the last six weeks he started to, during the season. I think thus far in the offseason he’s been around more than ever. He was never around like this on his own, just watching tape, studying, so that’s a step in the right direction. I think he has to embrace that, though, for him to be what he should be.
    Notice the part about him being around this offseason more than ever. Obviously Cable is fine with the work that Russell is putting in. There was already articles in the local news about how Russell was around long before voluntary workouts
    For a “News” reporting site, I find it hard to believe you would have read last week, just like I did, that JR will be out the first week of V.W.O. , and that he had a scheduled trip ahead of time. It has also been widely reported that JR has been at HQ far more then anyone else in the last six weeks
    I generally enjoy your site, but the JR bashing is unfounded at this point, coming off his last two games last year , and the work he has been putting in long before anyone else has shown up at HQ, all points to JR heading the right direction

  63. e.c. matter says: Mar 26, 2009 2:41 PM

    TB81:
    Not only that, but the knock on Quinn is his arm strength, not his preparation or leadership. And unlike Leinart, Russell, and Young who all played on talent rich college teams, Quinn actually has experience carrying an entire team.

  64. friedo says: Mar 26, 2009 2:43 PM

    The Raiders have never been the type of team to “bring along a young QB”. I was hoping they would do the right thing and take Quinn in the draft. A cerebral QB is better than a talented guy who doesn’t like to practice.
    Don’t get me wrong. As a Raider fan, I like Russel, but I don’t understand why the guy isn’t in the best shape of his life. Why doesn’t he have a six pack? Why is he constantly hassled about his weight?
    If he’s serious about being a great NFL QB he’d be hitting the weight room all through the offseason.

  65. stud stables says: Mar 26, 2009 2:48 PM

    I’d rather have Colt Brennan.

  66. AKR8R says: Mar 26, 2009 2:52 PM

    The only way Jruss could be even close to being labeled a bust in ’09, is if he went out and threw 30 INT’s with a completion rate of below 50% & got into serious trouble off the field.
    JaMarcus actually does a very good job of protecting the ball (only 8ints last season) and was showing some better accuracy late last season. Besides, Cable isn’t going to put him in the position of throwing 35 times every game. And JRuss doesn’t seem like the kind of guy to get into trouble in his personal life.
    So, while the jury is still very much out on JRuss becoming what you’d like for a number one pick QB, thinking that this coming season is gonna be the “judgment season” for him is just foolish. And obviously wishful thinking by many…
    Cable calling Russell out as he did, is exactly what you’d like to see. Additionally, with the dumping of bad choices from last season in Harris, Hall & Wilson, and the restraint in Free Agency shown by the org. this off-season, suggests there’s some promising cohesion between Al Davis and Cable. This cohesion, if it lasts, is more critical to JRuss’ future than any concerns I have about the young QB.

  67. cropguy says: Mar 26, 2009 2:56 PM

    What if…. The Raiders Trade JaMarcus to either:
    Seattle for the 4th pick; or
    Jacksonville for the 8th pick; or
    San Francisco for the 10th pick…
    Then the Raiders can pick up Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez knows how to be a true professional football player. your thoughts…

  68. RedStang says: Mar 26, 2009 3:02 PM

    Mountain out of a mole-hill. We don’t even know why he missed last week.

  69. INVAIDUH says: Mar 26, 2009 3:04 PM

    @warpaint
    Is that all it takes to make your day?
    That 1 win the Chiefs get this season should make your year!
    Fade2Black’s just bitter because his QB chokes on/in everything
    Food…games…d-k.

  70. Raiders757 says: Mar 26, 2009 3:05 PM

    I find it funny that no one has bothered to mention, or remember, that he spent most of January and February at team HQ studying film and working out. He was there long before the rest of the team, and took a few weeks off. Yes, he should be there now, so there is no excuse for him, but it’s not like he hasn’t been making strides to better himself already.
    I also find it funny how idiots still bring up the wight issue that was reported last year. These morons read that, but didn’t bother to read the reports that debunked the claim. He was never over wight, but haters and low IQ morons don’t bother to read what they don’t want to know is true, because it doesn’t fit their agenda.
    J Russ is not a bust yet, and I’m not even sure it would be fair to label as one after this season, if he doesn’t do well.

  71. jeremyb91 says: Mar 26, 2009 3:09 PM

    Florio did a good job of picking his comments and making them fit his story.
    First off, why does he not include the following comment:
    Russell improved dramatically in the last six games. If you look at what Cable stated the following in that same press conference:
    ” …. he has to go above and beyond almost on a daily basis, I think that comes with that position, whether that’s right or wrong, that’s what it is, if he can accept that and become that, he’ll be fine. He’ll be great, I think. Has he done that? I think during the last six weeks he started to, during the season. I think thus far in the offseason he’s been around more than ever. He was never around like this on his own, just watching tape, studying, so that’s a step in the right direction. I think he has to embrace that, though, for him to be what he should be.”
    Or how about his comment about being a failure? Read the actual press conference because this is what he said:
    “Oh yeah. He’s very driven. I think he’s a very passionate guy. He’s certainly very motivated to not be a failure, to not be the kid from Mobile that couldn’t get it done, all the hoopla, all the this and that.
    But explain why Florio left this out? “He doesn’t want to be that. He wants to be the guy. And he’s very driven.”
    He doesn’t want to be that. He wants to be the guy and he’s very driven? Where did you get he doesn’t want to be a failure?
    Russell’s biggest fault is he hasn’t had a veteran QB to teach him the ropes. Daunte Culpepper obviously wasn’t that type of teacher and Josh McCown, Tui, and Andrew Walter don’t have the experience to teach him anything.
    He may not be at the VOLUNTARY workouts right now, but at the same time this QB has been studying film and working on getting better more so than ever.
    Give this guy 3 full seasons PLAYED before you call him a bust. Now that he will have a decent O line in front of him and some playmakers the league will finally see what this young QB can do.

  72. sullijo says: Mar 26, 2009 3:13 PM

    Let’s be fair to him – he plays on an awful team that has no chance of winning when they step on the field. The organization is a joke with a crazy man steering the ship.
    They change coaches more than I change my clock for daylight savings, and they are generally devoid of talent.
    Give him a chance on a team that actually will compete in the next 10 years…..

  73. raider_md says: Mar 26, 2009 3:17 PM

    Here we go again, let’s bust on the fat kid from Mobile. Of course last season, the “fat” talk was just bullsheet. Heck he’s started 16 or 17 games now – pro bowl…pro bowl…why isn’t he putting up HOF numbers yet???
    I noticed there’s no mention of him being on site a couple of weeks after the season ended.
    Sure, he best get his azz in there and learn how to lead this team by example and put some wins on the board. My expectations of him this year is for him to grow substantially (no not physically) and mature has a pro. It’s that time between the 2nd and 3rd seasons you better start showing what you’re made of. But to start all the “bust” talk already is ridiculous.

  74. tiktokdok says: Mar 26, 2009 3:45 PM

    ElCabong says: “He’s a great player, get over it! ”
    That’s a joke, right?

  75. bwisnasky says: Mar 26, 2009 3:46 PM

    “Let’s be fair to him – he plays on an awful team that has no chance of winning when they step on the field.”
    Let’s just ask Jon Gruden or Mike Shanahan or Gary Kubiak if they are such a terrible team that has no chance of winning when they step on the field….

  76. jeremyb91 says: Mar 26, 2009 3:47 PM

    Let’s not forget the last six games Russell started he completed over 60% of his passes and was 3-3.
    Another thing people tend to overlook are his college stats. His junior year he completed 68% of his passes with most of these passes being against SEC competition.

  77. Raider Pride says: Mar 26, 2009 3:51 PM

    Cut the kid some slack.
    You see a bust, I see Hall Of Fame.

  78. friedo says: Mar 26, 2009 4:14 PM

    Cropguy…Are you serious? You would rather have Mark Sanchez? If anyone is poised to be a bust it’s him. I’m a usc fan and I don’t think he’s an NFL ready qb. He’s a 1 year starter! He played for one of the best teams in the nation. He had exactly 1 fourth quarter comback. Russell showed remarkable improvement toward the end of last year. There’s no way the Raiders want to dump him in favor of an unproven, 1 year wonder college qb!

  79. raiders117 says: Mar 26, 2009 4:17 PM

    “The fact that Russell hasn’t been around when the studying stopped and the sweating started surely is discouraging for Cable.”
    Yea, you think the ankle surgery he had a month ago has something to do with it?

  80. tgoods says: Mar 26, 2009 4:22 PM

    Jamarcus BUSTell!

  81. Brant says: Mar 26, 2009 4:37 PM

    Can we please get off the kid and give him a chance. Last year was essentially his rookie year and he had all the Lance Kiffin nonsense to deal with including Lance calling and giving him unsolicited advice after he was canned. He came into a situation with a coach who didn’t want him and didn’t want to be working with the Raiders. I think Cable has been getting through to him. Just look at the last two games he played in and got the job done. Reports are that he had been in for over a month on his own prior to the offseason program and I had read that he was gone for two weeks on a preplanned absence (probably a vacation or something). He is learning to be a pro QB and had little help with that until recently. I believe Cable and Paul Hackett will make him into a good starting QB at the very least. Give the guy a chance. If he had Brady Quinn’s body people wouldn’t be all over him. Not that he’s Montana, but people knocked Joe as too small and frail and they were proven wrong. Give the guy this year and next and if he hasn’t stepped up after three full years leading the team then we can call him a bust.

  82. joetoronto says: Mar 26, 2009 5:13 PM

    Check out empty13 with numerous comments in this thread.
    Your the biggest closet Raider fan of them all, congratulations. moron.

  83. jgrange says: Mar 26, 2009 5:21 PM

    Before these voluntary workouts began, Cable was praising JaMarcus on the fact that he was around the facilities before he even had to be there. He had offseason surgery to boot so of course he’s probably not in any shape to work out right now.
    Cable wasn’t even criticizing him anyways. He was sending a message to him that this team needs him to work hard. I’m sure JaMarcus knows that.
    JaMarcus was inviting Hurricane Katrina victims into his home during college while 95% of the people who read this website were too busy trying to get away from doing actual work. It’s funny that these same people are criticizing him for not working hard while they’re posting messages throughout the day when they themselves should be working.

  84. blancanieve says: Mar 26, 2009 5:21 PM

    This Thread is a joke its only March Russell and D-Mac had surgery this offseason

  85. dean2512 says: Mar 26, 2009 5:30 PM

    As a Raider fan I hate the fact that we picked him. When it is all said and done. Bust!!!

  86. blancanieve says: Mar 26, 2009 5:42 PM

    Based On What is he a bust one season as a starter with no O’line please show me something in terms of Football I.Q. that says he is a bust how do you know you work in the NFL are you a pro scout well i’m waiting break it down.

  87. blancanieve says: Mar 26, 2009 5:44 PM

    I am waiting explain

  88. brian_21 says: Mar 26, 2009 6:06 PM

    I’m going to be proved right pretty soon for saying all along that Brady Quinn should be the first overall pick of the draft — ahead of JaMarcus Russle. Or next year, whenever Quinn gets to play. We’ll see.
    PS: “Figuring out where to deliver the ball after comparing the play called by the sidelines against the pre-snap defensive alignment and deciding while the play clock counts down through single digits whether to change the play and trying to predict which of the defenders might blitz and which ones might not and then taking the ball and trying to notice and process the movements of eleven large, strong men while scanning for teammates who might or might not be doing what they’re supposed to be doing while making sure that one or more of the defensive players hasn’t broken free with designs on breaking his neck is the hard part.”
    Best. Sentence. Ever.

  89. moonbeam says: Mar 26, 2009 6:09 PM

    bust

  90. Chris from MD says: Mar 26, 2009 6:10 PM

    “Yes I did watch the game.. and I do believe JR was 14 of 21 with 2 TD’s…. so I’d have to say, he had something to do with the win ….”
    He was 14 of 21 for 148 yards, 2TD’s and an INT.
    Bush had more on teh ground by himself than JR did…..

  91. 4thelulz says: Mar 26, 2009 6:38 PM

    Wow that these comments. It’s sad how far the IQ of the average fan has fallen.

  92. myusernamestinks says: Mar 26, 2009 6:39 PM

    Russell isn’t a bust yet. He’s had a rough start in a dysfunctional organization, but he finished last season with better numbers than Flacco or Ryan, while throwing to no-name receivers. And while not a rookie, he’s still younger than both Flacco and Ryan. If Russell can develop some poise in the pocket, and Crazy Al can provide an upgrade at critical positions like tackle and receiver, JaBust might turn out to be JaPlayer

  93. cropguy says: Mar 26, 2009 11:34 PM

    Friedo,
    I understand your point, however, all I’m saying is I would take Mark Sanchez’s work ethic, passion, and leadership over JR’s any day.

  94. bwisnasky says: Mar 27, 2009 12:30 AM

    “He was 14 of 21 for 148 yards, 2TD’s and an INT.
    Bush had more on teh ground by himself than JR did…..”
    Actually, Bush had 2 TD’s that day too…. not 3…

  95. warpaint88 says: Mar 27, 2009 1:30 AM

    @ INVAIDUH:
    1 win for the Chiefs? Well, I hate to burst your bubble, but I kinda foresee the Chiefs getting back to their USUAL form with a season sweep of the Raiders this season. So that would at least double your prediction.
    Get over yourself dude.. the Oakland Raiders are the worst run organization in the league from top to bottom (yes, over Detroit) and will be so until Al Davis finally keels over and dies (I’m pretty much convinced that he actually is dead and is being animated with strings, but that’s beside the point). As a Chiefs fan, I hope that day never comes, because it just means that the Crypt Keeper will continue to run the franchise into the ground.
    Raiders fans live off of the past and jerk off to demented skewed views of the infamous Tom Brady “tuck rule” play. There’s a good reason the rest of the AFC West refers to you as the Faders.

  96. joetoronto says: Mar 27, 2009 8:19 AM

    warpaint88: You’re obviously suffering from small dick syndrome, with that great history yours Chiefs have….NOT!

  97. DSTULL says: Mar 27, 2009 10:15 AM

    The article you wrote is a joke.This is not Russell’s third year as starting QB.This is his 2nd year.He missed all of 2007′s mini camps. OTA’s, training camp and did not play until the last two games of th season.His rookie season was 2008. He played with no play making receivers other than the tight end Miller.The team had no left tackle to protect him.He had a head coach who was looking to leave for a college gig.I’d say despite all that he did just fine. With that said I do expect to see much improvement on his part this season.As long as the offensive line protects him and they get a play making receiver to help him out.

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