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Broncos Declaring Defeat On Jarvis Moss

The Jarvis Moss experiment is over.
According to Alex Marvez of, the Broncos are shopping the 17th overall pick in the 2007 draft for a mere seventh-round draft pick.
Moss has only 3.5 sacks in two seasons.

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35 Responses to “Broncos Declaring Defeat On Jarvis Moss”
  1. deanezag says: Apr 26, 2009 5:58 PM

    he’s better then any 7th round pass rusher this year. someone do the deal

  2. SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK says: Apr 26, 2009 6:02 PM

    Tim Crowder is very pleased to hear this.

  3. vegas42 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:06 PM

    That doesn’t necessarily mean they are calling it a defeat. After all, they traded a #1 next year for a player who was a 4th rounder on most other boards. Apparently, the new Denver regime has its own view of players’ worths….

  4. evilboy128 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:07 PM

    overall unimpressed with many of the Broncos current regime’s decisions. This is another example on giving up on a guy before mini camp for the Broncos. Usually a mistake.

  5. vegas42 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:09 PM

    And in a semi-related note, look for the Broncos to pick up Ian Johnson with their next selection. According to my sources, Denver is becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that it has been over 24 hours since they last signed and/or drafted an extra running back or 3.

  6. sevenirongator says: Apr 26, 2009 6:10 PM

    I thought they only traded probowlers

  7. emoser says: Apr 26, 2009 6:11 PM

    Realistically, what good is a 7th round pick? Just give him one last shot to show an improvement in training camp and then cut him if he still can’t hack it.

  8. enfuego says: Apr 26, 2009 6:13 PM

    Someone nuke the Broncos NOW and put them out of their misery…

  9. empty13 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:13 PM

    well since they apparently cant keep backs healthy anymore, they will need more.
    meanwhile, tampa stockpiles healthy QBs… or tried to.

  10. Ralph GreNader says: Apr 26, 2009 6:20 PM

    Strictly speaking from experience(Lifelong Browns fan)…. Maybe its not necessarily the players. Maybe its the garbage owner, front office, and coaching.
    BTW. Send him to Cleveland. We could use the defensive help considering the clowns running the show are too stupid to address the REAL issue…A porous defense.

  11. Chiggs says: Apr 26, 2009 6:23 PM

    Jarvis Moss is an utter failure. People critizing McDaniels over his controversial picks would do well to realize that Shanahan completely blew it in 2007…along with many other years this decade.

  12. csloan99 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:24 PM

    vegas42, since when did ANYONE consider Alphonso Smith a 4th rounder? He’s been seen as a mid-2nd rounder at worst, a mid-1st rounder at best. You lose a lot of credibility when you lie.

  13. vegas42 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:33 PM

    When I lie? I just repeated some of what I heard during 12 hours of watching the draft. Maybe I mixed him up with someone else and, if so, my deepest apologies. My point was Denver is not doing anything that makes much sense. Him being graded out at a mid-2nd still doesn’t equal a 1 next year, in my eyes. Moreso when you consider they have been spending picks on RB/DB/WR/TE when they still have NO d-line. If the last two years taught us anything, it’s that even Champ Bailey can’t cover anyone if there is no pressure being put on a QB.
    So yes, I may have spoken out of turn about Smith’s draft grade with other teams. I am frustrated with what they are doing to this once proud franchise. Oh, and I could care less what you think of my credibility.

  14. Drafty says: Apr 26, 2009 6:39 PM

    Hey, Ted Sundquist! You out there? Just curious if you could weigh-in on this particular story?
    Maybe give your “expert” opinion on this potential move? No? Nowhere to be found, eh? Must be busy waiting tables at Chili’s, where you belong, Ted.
    Another high pick from Shamahan and Dumbquist is tossed onto the scrap heap.
    I agree with those who question the need to trade this stiff for a 7th rounder, though. Why bother? Nothing’s going to make up for the colossal blunder of trading away your own first-rounder next year, McDips**t.

  15. empty13 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:42 PM

    try “couldnt care less”…
    if you could care less, that implies you actually care some.

  16. yahmpy says: Apr 26, 2009 6:45 PM

    I wish my team could play in the AFC West.

  17. vegas42 says: Apr 26, 2009 6:50 PM

    Got that, did you? See where I offered my “deepest apologies”? I was being sarcastic, as I was when I said “could care less.” I could care less, but just a very little bit….
    And, not to be an ass toward everyone today, but if you feel the need to be the phonics police, try “couldn’t care less” instead of “couldnt care less.”

  18. theBROWNguy says: Apr 26, 2009 6:57 PM

    McDICKhead wanted to add a 12th running back to the roster with the 7th rounder he was asking for………

  19. pirate freedom says: Apr 26, 2009 7:00 PM

    Not just a seventh, Money, how much does that 17th pick contract cost?
    More than he has proven to be worth I suspect.

  20. milehiclown says: Apr 26, 2009 7:03 PM

    @ Vegas24: it would technically be the semantics police. Phonics is speech but semantics is meaning.
    Maybe if you were not such a teenage girl on this blog people wouldn’t hate so much. Just saying.

  21. Santo76 says: Apr 26, 2009 7:32 PM

    I’ve not seen Alphonso Smith rated anywhere lower than a high 2nd round pick. Where does Vegas get his info from, Sean Salisbury?

  22. desertscrub says: Apr 26, 2009 7:35 PM

    now if the packers could find it in themselves to give up on Justin Harrell.
    The Packers would be happy if Harrell would have given them 3.5 plays much less 3.5 sacks in two years.
    The current Packer regime is worthless, they make the guys in Denver look like HOF’ers

  23. cabrooke97 says: Apr 26, 2009 7:55 PM

    Dump him. Remember, Denver traded up to draft to useless Moss.
    Also, with the draft of Moreno, look for Denver to dump both Young and Torain, both useless. All you McD haters, now Denver has four potential starters at RB, not a bunch of young guys with potential. Sounds solid to me. Also, by taking Moreno at 12, it kept San Diego from replacing Tomlinson at pick 16. Denver likely would have had to face Moreno twice a year for years to come. Denver could not even handle Sproules.

  24. titans_fan says: Apr 26, 2009 8:24 PM

    “now Denver has four potential starters at RB, not a bunch of young guys with potential”
    Wouldn’t “potential starters” and “guys with potential” essentially be the same?
    And I love how just because Moreno got drafted everyone assumes he’s gonna be a bad mofo… what if he’s a bust?

  25. RaiderBert says: Apr 26, 2009 8:27 PM

    You can’t trade him to Cleveland. Bad/mediocre players only go from Cleveland to Denver.
    Doing the opposite would probably violate the laws of physics or something like that.

  26. vegas42 says: Apr 26, 2009 8:50 PM

    @milehiclown: Thanks for the extra help. It always helps us teenage girls to have someone around to keep us honest. Of course, I thought this was a forum for fans to talk about (or complain about) their teams when they are frustrated or otherwise confused by said teams. Just saying.

  27. demir_dakid says: Apr 26, 2009 8:54 PM

    No mike shannahan system to plug any RB in and run all over the field and a bad defense… The broncos are in trouble

  28. Cujo says: Apr 26, 2009 9:14 PM

    titans_fan says:
    April 26th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
    And I love how just because Moreno got drafted everyone assumes he’s gonna be a bad mofo… what if he’s a bust?
    Watch tape on him…it’s impossible for him to be a bust. He is an immediate upgrade to their RB core. Can’t wait to see Denver pound the ball again then spread it out and watch Kyle orton dump the ball to B. Marsh and watch him gain 15 YAC every play.

  29. GlennHauser says: Apr 26, 2009 9:33 PM

    Vegas doesn’t get his info from Sean Salisbury…he is Sean Salisbury. I say give Moss another training camp to show his worth.

  30. deanezag says: Apr 26, 2009 10:14 PM

    cujo “Watch tape on him…it’s impossible for him to be a bust”
    -and Texans made the biggest mistake in the history of football for passing on the next LT reggie bush- but he wasnt suppose to be a bust either.

  31. Brewster says: Apr 26, 2009 10:20 PM

    Chiggs says:
    April 26th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    Jarvis Moss is an utter failure. People critizing McDaniels over his controversial picks would do well to realize that Shanahan completely blew it in 2007…along with many other years this decade.
    I too was not a Shanahan fan as far as his draft choices.
    However sometimes perception is not reality.
    If you look at the 2006-2007 & 2008 drafts of the Broncos vs the Patriots, yes the Patriots who are considered draft geniuses. You might want to consider these stats.
    Broncos 20 total picks Patriots 26 total picks
    Broncos 6 starters (5 fror Broncos, 1 other team) Partiots 3 starters
    Broncos 7 back ups

  32. Brewster says: Apr 26, 2009 10:55 PM

    Chiggs says:
    April 26th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
    Jarvis Moss is an utter failure. People critizing McDaniels over his controversial picks would do well to realize that Shanahan completely blew it in 2007…along with many other years this decade.
    I too was not a fan of Shanahan’s draft prowess.
    However you might want to consider these stats before you blow off the Broncos previous 3 drafts.
    Sometimes perception is not always reality. The Pats under Belicheck are considered draft geniuses.
    Over the past three drafts 2006, 2007 & 2008 the teams compared as follows:
    Total draft picks
    Broncos 20 Patriots 26
    Broncos 5 + 1 traded to another team, Patriots 3 all with Pats
    Broncos 7, Pats 6 + 1 with another team
    Broncos 6, Pats 5 + 5 with other teams
    Out of the league
    Broncos 1, Pats 5
    Yes, it’s easier to make the Broncos as a starter than the Pats, but if you look at the overall body of work, the Broncos last three drafts were excellent as compared to what is perceived to be the the NFL’s draft brain trust.
    All three of these Broncos drafts were managed ( I believe this to be fact) by Jim Goodman with his two sons as scouts or player personell people for the Broncos.
    McDaniels fired all otf them and managed this draft by himself with assistance from Brian Xanders . Neither of whom had any prior draft experience as a final decision maker.
    And look at the fruits of their labor.
    Moreno may turn out to be a good pick, as well as Ayers.
    However, the problem is the defense which they ignored. Drafting two CB’s and a Safety none of whom are projected as starters next year cannot by any means be characterized as addressing an immediate problem.
    The Raiduhs not withstanding, the Bronos had without a doubt the worst draft in this year’s NFL. After essentially blowing 7 or 8 out of 10 picks they are still left with the same problem areas they had going into the draft.
    Plus McDaniels destroyed the heart of the offense, that had comparable numbers (within a few yards) to the NE offense of 2007 that was one of the best in NFL history
    McDaniels may just be the most arrogant of all the bad apples that have fallen off the Belicheck coaching tree, but Pat Bowlen is the true loser here. He deserves every bit of the gutter that McDaniels has dragged him into and he’ll be enjoying for the next several years until he gets rid of him.
    While Shanahan can’t be happy he was fired, he must be enjoying this travesty as it is unfolding, unfortunately with more to come.

  33. Jas7n says: Apr 26, 2009 11:38 PM

    Denver is starting to Look like the home of Oncoming “Millen Man Marches”, walkouts, ESPN coverage of “faithful fans being failed.”
    The Cowboys or Dolphins will pick him up in the next few days.

  34. WithoutDoubt27 says: Apr 27, 2009 12:39 AM

    How many of those Broncos draft picks could start for the Pats or even make their roster?
    Apples and oranges. Can’t compare a professional football team to the Broncos, friend.

  35. DKnows says: Apr 27, 2009 1:02 AM

    It is trul;y goo you care not about your credibility…for yours most assuredly is chocking on rooster.

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