Childress Brags About Plucking Percy From The Pats

An NFL coach must be many things.  One of his duties is to be an excellent communicator.
Good communications skills require much more than knowing what to say.  Folks also must know what not to say, and when to not say it.
For Vikings coach Brad Childress, his ego (or whatever it is that prompts him to try to show he’s smart or witty or both) often gets the better of him, and he says things he shouldn’t.
A couple of years ago, he called out Pats coach Bill Belichick for trying to persuade the Vikings not to make a waiver claim for a player whom the Patriots had planned to pass through waivers.  Last year, Childress sniped at quarterback Jeff George with all the snarkiness of a blogger when George was merely asking for a tryout.
Now, Childress is crowing about the fact that the Vikings snatched receiver Percy Harvin one pick before the Pats could get him.
New England was right in there,” Childress said, according to Sid Hartman of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.  “They were right behind us.  No, they didn’t think we’d take him [because of off-the-field] issues.  Remember, they have our receivers coach there now.  So they thought they could hold . . . and he’d come to them.
“They were down there [last week] working him out the day after I was there.  And [Harvin] wasn’t supposed to tell anybody, and I was trying to pull that out of him, who that was.  So, it was a little cat-and-mouse game that occurred.”  (And, of course, Childress isn’t the slightest bit troubled about the fact that Harvin apparently couldn’t be counted on to keep his word to Belichick.)
Brad, before you wear a groove in your back (that’s our move, by the way), consider this (and we’re gonna wear a groove in our back for a moment):  We were able to find out without the application of much elbow grease that the Jets at No. 17 and the Vikings at No. 22 were regarded as the teams most likely to take Harvin in round one.  Our sources (who were right on the money, given that the Jets moved up to No. 5 to get Mark Sanchez and then reportedly tried to get the 21st pick in order to pluck Harvin) said not a single word about the Pats taking Harvin.
So maybe, just maybe, Belichick applied the same Vulcan mind trick on the Vikings and the Jets that Belichick played against the Jets last year, when New York took linebacker Vernon Gholston while perched at No. 6, one spot ahead of the Patriots.  Belichick then traded down several spots and picked up linebacker Jerod Mayo, who far and away was the better player in 2008.
Think of it this way.  Who’s in a better position to get to the truth about Harvin than Belichick, who counts among his close friends Florida coach Urban Meyer?  The fact that Belichick didn’t leap frog the Vikings at No. 22 tells us all we need to know.
If our speculation in this regard is accurate, Belichick’s grift is complete, and perfect.  The guy who’s crowing about snookering the other guy is actually the guy who got swindled.
Cue Marvin Hamlisch.

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113 responses to “Childress Brags About Plucking Percy From The Pats

  1. If we would have drafted Harvin….we would have to had to draft someone from Cali to sell him and Moss the crytonite, the green cronic.
    Yep yep dont worry Im on it
    Slick move by yours truly.
    WB

  2. Or, maybe, you’re just trying to be too snarky yourself, Florio. I’m sure that with Oher there, the Pats were sure the Vikes would pass on Harvin. I mean, sure, Bellichick is a genius, but would he really try and trick the Vikings into selecting Harvin, just so he can move back? It doesn’t make sense. That’s one of the stupidest hypotheses I’ve ever heard.
    And I find it highly unlikely that your sources knew what every single team was going to do. Did they also tell you that the Broncos were going to take Knowshon Moreno with the #12 overall? Of course not. So maybe you need to take that groove out of your own back.

  3. Yeah, like Belichick ever tells anyone they’re going to be drafted before they get picked on draft day. If that was out there it was nothing but misdirection from Belichick. Childress is an idiot.

  4. Good call Chilly!! You’ve outsmarted the Pats and every NFL “expert”. Geez I love that guy!!!

  5. Wow this guy is bragging about snagging a trouble making pothead, he better be ROY and all pro every year after.

  6. Wow really…You don’t know what Belichek was thinking…Your crowing about what you think Belichek was thinking and how it affects Brad Childress? Youre bordering on sycophantic..The Pats draft looks far from perfect I wouldnt be “crowing” if I were you…they seemed really indecisive without Pioli. But I don’t know..I don’t presume to be the “mindreader” you are Florio I just trust that Childress, Belicheck and Tannenbaum are smarter football men than I am…but for you try and do a sackdance on childress…he has a lot more reason to crow than you do …for better or worse…..he got the player he wanted..

  7. Mike
    Why do the Patriots need another reciever??? they have randy moss wes welker and picked up joey galloway in FA… why use your 1st round pick on a guy thats most likely gonna be your number 4 reciever??

  8. So… was this an anti-Harvin post or an anti-Jets post?
    Who the hell is Brad Childress?
    I’m out of ammo.

  9. Chili is so much smarter than the rest of the football world. Especially us Viking fans. We just don’t understand his genius. Maybe now he can show that intellect by calling something other than a 2 yard out on 3rd & 8 . . .

  10. At least Coach Dome was smart enough to say something that stupid in a year they don’t play the Pats. And yeah! I’m sure there not going to play each other.

  11. Minnesota didn’t choose Childress, he chose them. And 31 teams rejoiced.

  12. Honestly, Florio, back off. You know you like the pick, so let the squirrel enjoy his nut. All the negative in this town sucks!!!

  13. While Childress shouldn’t have publicly bragged, we know that the Jets were trying to jump in front of the Vikings for Harvin. The Patriots WR coach was just hired away from Minnesota, and it’s quite possible that he said there’s no way the VIkings take Harvin with his off-field issues.
    And I watched the Harvin conference, he didn’t tell Childress that it was the Patriots showing interest, he said “uh coach, you know I’m really now supposed to say.”
    This was a weak story Mike. There’s plenty of legit reasons to be skeptical about the Vikings taking Harvin, but this didn’t deserve the 60 seconds I gave to reading it.

  14. It’s OK the Patriots still got a pot smokin receiver named Brandon Tate in round three. So all is good. Geez and the Bengals get ripped for taking a questional player at the end of the sixth!

  15. Hey, If Chilly doesn’t do anything in the playoffs again, he won’t be around too long to have his joy.

  16. it will be stories like this that will have us all laughing about the Childress-era next year when he gets canned and replaced by Brian Billick

  17. It’s not a smart thing to piss off BB and the Pats. Next time, they play each other we could see a very ugly game.

  18. Typical Childress. He’s spends so much time trying to pretend that he’s smart, that he doesn’t realize that EVERYONE else is busy laughing at how stupid he really is. He’s just a blip in the long line of franchise failures that have doomed the Vikings for decades with ineptitude and colossal failure, even when they’ve had talent. They’re probably almost as cursed as the Lions for that reason alone.

  19. The perfect grift is when the sucker thinks that he’s the one who scammed you. Needless to say, those who know the most talk the least. I suspect that the Hoodie can’t believe that they let guys like Childress have the car keys to an NFL franchise. But then that’s how he keeps on turning over draft picks every year. He already has three No.2s for next year, and he’s not paying first round money to anyone this year.

  20. BB’s track record drafting receivers is not good (Bethel Johnson, Chad Jackson), and the Pats dont need help at WR (that Moss/Welker tandem is pretty good, I hear). The Pats have needed to restock their D, which they’ve done for the past 2 drafts.The idea that he would even think about taking a receiver with issues in the first round of an overall mediocre draft class is astounding.

  21. Mike “Cheesehead” Florio’s 103,238th Viking hate post.
    I loved the Harvin pick, the Vikes couldn’t have gotten their hands on a player with higher potential at that point. Harvin is a top 5 talent, and if Harvin can keep his nose clean the Vikings will have proven to be extremely lucky that he fell that far.

  22. Class act that Childress.
    Belichick also convinced the Jets to blow TWO first round picks to move up to #4 in 2003 to grab Dewayne Robertson. And even after he had accomplished that goal he STILL let it be known that he wanted Robertson so badly he was going to use HIS two first round picks to move up to #3… so if the Jets really wanted to “steal” Robertson away from the Patriots they would have to expend even MORE cash and draft picks to move up to #2.
    The Jets actually refrained from making the move to 2, possibly beginning to think that they were outfoxed and that Belichick was more interested in making them spend draft picks and money than he was interested in Robertson.
    So how did things work out? Last I checked Roberston didn’t exactly have a stellar career for the Jets. Belichick’s picks from that draft wound up being Ty Warren with their other pick becoming Vince Wilfork in 2004.
    The bottom line is with 6 of the top 100 picks in the draft, and a team already stocked in free agency, Belichick had the ammunition to move around and grab ANY player he wanted – if he wanted them bad enough. If he didn’t make a move he simply didn’t want them badly enough, if at all.
    So chances are, Childress probably “stole” Percy from the Patriots just like the Jets probably “stole” Robertson from them.

  23. Let’s wait and brag about snagging Harvin after he, you know, proves that he can play at the next level. All this hoopla over getting him and he could yet prove to be a bust and someone will be left looking like an ass.

  24. Brad Childress is great.
    I hope he coaches there for another decade.
    There is no coach better loved by the fans than Brad Childress.
    His great coaching and motivational speaking have inspired his team to new heights.
    Just think if that team had some talent that he could really use.
    Someday his coaching record will get up to .500. Then he can really crow.

  25. The real (and only) story here is that Chili needs to keep is mouth shut. There are no other NFL coaches out there talking about what other teams were trying to do in the draft. It was the same thing a few years back when he bragged about nabbing a TE off the Pats practice squad. No coaches say stuff like that to the media – and for good reason.
    I’m a die hard Vikings fan, and maybe Childress is the best X’s and O’s guy out there. I wouldn’t know. I do know that when he does open his mouth he comes off as an inexperienced moron. I really think that in his mind, he’s on par with Belichick.

  26. I’m sure it’ll be fine, BB would never run up the score, hell ask Joe Gibbs a coach he actually likes.

  27. This is so retarded. If the genereal public only knew how many NFL or professional athletes in general, smoke weed. Their are pro bowlers and NBA all-stars that smoke just as much as they party. I’m not condoning it, but it happens. People are so judgemental and quick to say Percy will fail, but its gonna be the same “experts” that hop on his jock once he is the rookie of the year. The kid isn’t Ricky Williams, most athletes aren’t addicted to the point where they would let weed harm their profession. All I’m saying is Percy is the biggest playmaker in the draft and Florio you will eat your words and hop on the bandwagon just like everyone else when he dominates the NFL just like he did high school, and the SEC

  28. For some people, it’s just apparent that they’re just not HC material. brad Childress yet again demonstrates why he’s one of those guys.

  29. When was the last time the pats traded up for any player? Do you really think anyone thought we’d pass on Oher? You really think Belicheck was working out Percy 2 days before the draft because he wasn’t interested? You think maybe Belicheck traded back because his guy was no longer on the board?
    This really is a terrible theory. I love PFT and most of Florio’s takes, but this one is terrible in my opinion. The two guys have it out for eachother and Childress got him this time, he did.
    Florio- I know you hate Chilly. He is a bonehead sometimes in game, but you can’t really gripe with the man in the off season, he’s building one hell of a roster, even you have to admit that. Watch out for the Vikes this year.

  30. BB wanted Larry English… there have been multiple reports of this and when he went at 16 that is when they started exploring trades out of round 1… which they eventually did
    well see if English pans out for San Diego

  31. Yeah, the Boston Globe didn’t mention Bill Belichick was down at the University of Florida for a coaches clinic and put Ingram through a private workout a a week before the draft. Pretty hard to connect the dots that they worked out Harvin too.

  32. Even if he’s right….is it really a good idea to plan your roster based on smiting your oppositon (oh….wait….being in different conferences really doesn’t lend itself to much rivalry)…..

  33. maybe you could address just one issue in a follow-up, Florio. if the Patriots weren’t targeting Harvin, why did they trade down immediately after he went off the board? and why did they trade down into the second round and take a defensive back to add to the 40 they already have?

  34. Its pretty obvious the Pats were hoping someone who was off the board got taken beforehand, hence why they traded down. Chilly might have known or found out that person was Harvin, but you dont say it. True, the Vikes dont have a QB, but Harvin could have been your starting RB, or KR/PR. Now tell Hoody to stop cheating, stop giving players away to his buddies in new organizations, and hope to god Brady doesnt lose his leg.

  35. “gstewart says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 11:10 pm
    BB’s track record drafting receivers is not good (Bethel Johnson, Chad Jackson)”
    I would say that, as far as contributions to the team and initial investment, that Deion Branch and David Givens were as good as Bethel Johnson and Chad Jackson were bad.
    Plus he drafted Derrick Alexander and Michael Jackson while with Clevelend. Throw in Patrick Rowe as a bust, and those are the only WRs that he’s drafted in the first three rounds (Givens and Jackson were both late picks, but they both had some success)…..
    As far as 1-3 round WRs (Derrick Alexander is the only one actually taken in the first), he’s missed on 3 and hit on 2. Which really isn’t that bad. Especially when you consider that he turned Deion Branch into Brandon Meriweather.

  36. “Belichick: Playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.”
    QFT.
    There is no way in a thousand years the Pats were gonna take Harvin with the #23 pick. There’s an off-chance they would have taken a flier on him at #34 or 47. But Childress is smoking the same stuff Harvin was smoking if Childress thinks he somehow duped the Pats out of their #23 pick. That is a joke beyond belief.

  37. Wow, Florio! From time to time you sling some stupid shyte, but this one takes the cake. Look, I personally don’t care for Childress, but for him to have been grifted by Hoodie, he would have to have been scammed out of something. The Vikings had decided well before the draft that they were taking Harvin; Belichik had no bearing on that decision whatsoever. Right or wrong, they simply like the fact that he was a playmaker. Yet somehow you draw this absurd conclusion that Bellichek used a “Jedi” mind trick on Childress in order to make him take a WR in Harvin, just so the Pats could trade down 11 spots to take a…….SS. Seriously?!! Time to get some new sources and lose the Hoodie man crush.

  38. Florio, I love this site, but your obsession with trying to make Childress look like a deuche is getting ridiculous. This is a non-story that does not deserve space on this site, and the only reason it got posted is that you want to stir up support to get rid of him. Let his mis-management of game situations get him rightfully fired, and stop worrying about petty stuff like this.

  39. Florio, could you be any bigger of a Patsy asskisser?
    And the rest of you Pats idiots will be crying once again when Belichick gets beat by the Steelers in the AFC playoffs by a better team and the next young up-and-coming head coach, Mike Tomlin.

  40. “So maybe, just maybe, Belichick applied the same Vulcan mind trick on the Vikings… ”
    ==========================
    Don’t you mean “Jedi Mind Trick”? The Vulcans have the neck pinch and the mind meld but no “mind trick”. If you’re gonna try to “Geek out” at least get it right… lol

  41. Great post Florio. Especially the last paragraph.
    “Grift”, “snookering”, and “swindled” all in the same paragraph.

  42. I’m not gonna read all the comments because I really, really, really could not care ANY less about the vikings, the pats, or anyone even remotely connected to said franchises…so someone may have pointed this out. JEDI. JEDI mind trick. Not vulcan. It was the vulcan mind meld. Live long and prosper.

  43. The moral of this story is:
    If Florio and the rest of the NFL world knew that the Vikings wanted Percy, you can be sure that “The greatest coach ever” and the rest of the Patriots staff knew as well.
    No mind tricks needed here to outsmart the other half of Simon and Simon.
    Check and mate Childress, you blow-hard jackass.

  44. All pre-draft mocks had two players going Vikes…Ebon Britton, and Percy Harvin. If they wanted us to take Percy, they sure made no move to take Britton. They also didn’t stick around long to take Oher. The Vikes still got Loadholt in the second (who the also wanted..no secret there), so I am unsure what the misdirection could have been for. But they did trade out of that spot fast after Harvin fell. Oh well…like it matters, its all Hype anyway.

  45. I love how the media has label Harvin the troubled player of the draft. The only concern about him should be his durability. But his attitude/work ethic/desire/ability should never come into question. And his durability should be taken with a grain of salt since he played WR and RB. The dude is crazy quick and very strong.

  46. First off Florio is a Vikings fan, he admitted it after the Queens got Jared Allen last year and said they will win the superbowl.
    Second of all, the Cleveland Browns were trading down like whores all day in the first round, if New England wanted Harvin they could have jumped Minnesota to take him at 21.

  47. I believe Florio working for the prosecution during the O.J. murder case? He sure knows how to build a case.

  48. The mere suggestion that Col Klink could out-smart anybody is laughable. What makes this even more entertaininig is Klink himself is doing the bragging despite the fact that Percy hasn’t played a down yet in the NFL.
    To state the obvious, time will tell and I am not exactly going on a limb here; Bellicheat will continue to coach in the NFL this year and next and Col Klink will continue to search for his kick ass offense and a new job come the end of the season. And the Viking fans will be making Superbowl hotel and plane reservations all spring; an annual event in MN.

  49. Chilly and Billy have bad blood. The Patriots once took a Vikings practice squad player purely to spite them. Think about that. The Patriots took a player that the Vikings actually saw a future in, thus taking up a spot on their own squad, with the full intention of cutting him a few weeks later, which they did, thus hurting that guy’s career chances and their own team merely to spite the Vikings. The Vikings of course plucked a player off the Pats squad days earlier (Garrett Mills) after Billy boy told them not to. The difference obviously being that the player the Vikes plucked is still on their active roster and the guy the Pats plucked eventually returned to the Vikes after the Patriots tossed him out.
    So this doesn’t surprise me one bit. That Chilly would talk this crap. Billy tried out Harvin in case he fell down. Worth a shot since Oher ended up being available and could have been an obvious pick for the Vikes. Or perhaps they tried to move up but couldn’t find a reasonable deal. Either way, nobody outsmarted anybody. Each guy just did their thing and it shaked out a certain way.
    But bet on it that if the Vikes had taken Oher the Pats would have taken Harvin, and Chilly rubbed it in, and no doubt that boils Billy dog’s blood.

  50. bwell316 says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 10:57 pm
    it will be stories like this that will have us all laughing about the Childress-era next year when he gets canned and replaced by Brian Billick
    =================
    I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen after this season, although I
    do believe that Major Dad is correct when he says that the Hoodie wanted Harvin.
    I can already hear Billick’s “coming home” speech.

  51. Just maybe the Patriots traded out of the first round after Harvin was drafted because THAT WAS THEIR SPOT IN THE DRAFT ORDER? Do you jackaninnies think the Patriots were going to execute a trade before they were on the clock? No team does that. The fact that Harvin was pick #22 is entirely co-incidental. If the Vikings drafted Alyssa Milano, the Patriots still would have traded down.

  52. BB would not use the 23rd pick to select ANY WR…If Harvin was there in the middle of round 2 then maybe, but he was looking for one of the Defensive Ends to slide to him. That didn’t happen and he traded out. I was a bit shocked he didn’t take Clay Matthews at 26, but this is BB and he knows a hell of a lot more about this than any of us posting on here.
    And at FlorioBorio…the Steelers have had their chances against BB and the Pats in the playoffs and with homefield advantage…I seem to remember the players from the Steelers crying not the other way around.

  53. Nate A says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
    It’s not a smart thing to piss off BB and the Pats. Next time, they play each other we could see a very ugly game.
    *******
    Childress won’t be around the next time the Vikings play the Patriots.

  54. Bob_Nelson says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
    Someday his coaching record will get up to .500. Then he can really crow.
    *****
    I’m not defending Childress, because I want him gone, but…..
    Already there, Bob. Do your research. Regular season record is 24-24-0. Technically, you are right if you include the playoff loss last year. But, you are a bigger douche than Childress.

  55. Football is life says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 12:52 am
    hey Chilly, what if someone comes out with six minute abs?
    ******
    No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody’s comin’ up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won’t even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.
    7’s the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that’s the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin’ on a branch, eatin’ lots of sunflowers on my uncle’s ranch. You know that old children’s tale from the sea. It’s like you’re dreamin’ about Gorgonzola cheese when it’s clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

  56. Childress should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Belichick unless contrasting idiocy and genius.

  57. It’s comical that Childress is bragging about “snickering” the Patriots. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the Patriots knows that no information “gets out” unless they WANT it to get out. There were a few reports during the week last week that said the Patriots had “interest” in Harvin…….that alone proves they didn’t. Harvin is not their type of player either……he’s a one trick pony. But by all means Brad….brag away….especially for a team that when they actually MAKE A PICK BEFORE TIME RUNS OUT …..IT’S A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT ASSCLOWN

  58. fuber says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 8:07 am
    I love how the media has label Harvin the troubled player of the draft. The only concern about him should be his durability. But his attitude/work ethic/desire/ability should never come into question. And his durability should be taken with a grain of salt since he played WR and RB. The dude is crazy quick and very strong.
    —————————
    His attitude certainly comes into the question. This is a guy who was suspended from all athletic competition in high school. They don’t hand out those type of suspensions like candy on Halloween. And it was only three years ago. He’s kept his nose clean at Florida, but we’ll see what happens now. The way they obsess on these kids, that time of his life had to be a factor in where he was drafted. You spend too much time/money on first round draft picks to be wasting them on turds. Or slapdicks.
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    vikesfan99 says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
    maybe you could address just one issue in a follow-up, Florio. if the Patriots weren’t targeting Harvin, why did they trade down immediately after he went off the board? and why did they trade down into the second round and take a defensive back to add to the 40 they already have?
    —————————-
    That question is silly to the point of being stupid. Don’t most teams trade their pick while they’re on the clock? Wouldn’t it be stupid for the Ravens to package picks together to trade up 4 spots in the draft a week ahead of time? Yes, it would. They want to see who’s still on the board and go from there. So the Pats traded down immediately after the Vikings drafted Percy because they were on the clock. That’s why. The Ravens don’t want to trade up to #23 and then watch the Vikings draft the guy they wanted at #22. They’d be a bunch of donkeys to do that.
    As far as Belichick playing mind tricks is concerned.. I don’t know if that’s the case. The funny thing about this story is how Childress is so smugly confident. The man truly is an idiot. So far he’s responded to juvenile threats from Troy Williamson by feeding into it with his own threats.. He compared Daunte Culpepper to TO, after trading him.. And now he’s antagonizing the best coach in football like a dumb kid poking a stick in a beehive. These are things you just don’t do as an NFL head coach. Don’t piss off your peers, especially ones whose teams can humiliate you. And don’t talk in a disparaging way about players who are gone. Rise above it. He just seems unable to grasp that.

  59. “The Pats draft looks far from perfect I wouldnt be “crowing” if I were you…they seemed really indecisive without Pioli.”
    ROFL couldn’t be further from the truth. This was one of the most brilliant drafts the Belichick has ever had. They got the young defenders they needed and help on the Oline, giving the two main trouble spots on the roster reinforcement. They did so without spending a lot of money by trading down, between that and dumping Hobbs freeing up money to re-sign several important vets whose contracts run out this year including Wilfork. And they loaded up on picks for next year which apparently has a far better draft class to choose from. Layered success in three ways. Tentative ? ROFL NOT

  60. ken13 says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am
    It’s comical that Childress is bragging about “snickering” the Patriots. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the Patriots knows that no information “gets out” unless they WANT it to get out…
    ********************************
    Other than, you know, taping defensive signals and stuff.

  61. It’s obvious the long term prospects for the Patriots are shot with the Vikings getting Harvin. If the Patriots gambled and lost that is part of the game and Belichick is well aware of that. There are other teams who could have traded into the Vikings spot and taken Harvin as well. As to the Patriots trying to hide there intentions do you think there was something Harvin exhibited in his character that any coach would entrust their intentions too? Harvin is/was a lose Cannon and anyone with common sense could see that. It may be that the Patriots would have taken Harvin but after the Chad Jackson fiasco I don’t think Bob Kraft would have been too excited about having that cat in the house. I

  62. Harvin = Bush = over-hyped
    And…before the injury to Tate, did anyone care about Hakeem Nicks? No, so how does this guy become a first rounder and Tate falls to 4th? I get the pot thing but 50+% of the NFL has smoked pot. Tate was clearly the best WR at UNC last year and the Pats used a 4th on him while the Giants used a 1st on his wing man. That’s like taking Viper in a Top Gun fantasy draft because Maverick has some “out of sky” issues.

  63. Seaniemck7 says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 9:54 am
    ken13 says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 9:37 am
    It’s comical that Childress is bragging about “snickering” the Patriots. Anyone who knows ANYTHING about the Patriots knows that no information “gets out” unless they WANT it to get out…
    ********************************
    Other than, you know, taping defensive signals and stuff.
    Still with the tapes? Have you been in a cave while the countless other head coaches have come out and said everyone does this is some form or another? Move on guy.

  64. Brad Childress is the modern day equivalent of Wayne Fontes. The Vikings have a hefty payroll, are loaded with talent, and are destined to watch it all be squandered yet again. Barry Sanders had his career wasted by the inept Fontes, and if Ziggy hangs onto Childress, Adrian Peterson may suffer the same fate…….sad.

  65. HarrisonHits says:
    April 27th, 2009 at 10:36 pm
    “Yeah, like Belichick ever tells anyone they’re going to be drafted before they get picked on draft day. If that was out there it was nothing but misdirection from Belichick. Childress is an idiot. ”
    Can I have a “BINGO!!!”?

  66. The Dox says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 1:16 am
    “Great post Florio. Especially the last paragraph.
    “Grift”, “snookering”, and “swindled” all in the same paragraph. ”
    Indeed! All it was missing was “hornswaggled”…but I guess that’s asking a lot!

  67. tool0117,
    just because bo receivers from Florida have been any good doesn’t mean there wont be any. Percy is exceptional and would have dominated in any system he played for in college. Steve Spurrier coached most of the Florida athletes that are in the league right now, not Urban Meyer. If Percy played rb permanently he would have rushed for 200 yds a game for any team in college football. You put him on Texas Tech or Mizz and he does the same thing as Crabtree and Maclin, difference is he would have had to play special teams, cause overall those teams didnt have Fla. team speed. just watch and see Percy on turf, it will be an amazing sight

  68. “No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody’s comin’ up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won’t even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.
    7’s the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that’s the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin’ on a branch, eatin’ lots of sunflowers on my uncle’s ranch. You know that old children’s tale from the sea. It’s like you’re dreamin’ about Gorgonzola cheese when it’s clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office. ”
    I love that movie

  69. This isn’t about the Pats tricking the Vikings or the Vikings stealing a player from the Pats. I bet Harvin’s agent told him to tell any team that was interested in him “You know the team picking right behind you…they want me and they’re going to take me.” And his agent probably also told him to make it seem like he wasn’t supposed to let the information slip out “You know coach I really shouldn’t tell you this but the Pats just worked me out and they really like me.” This guy was supposed to fall after his positive drug test yet his agent managed to get him picked in the 1st round which results in first round money.

  70. “Why do the Patriots need another reciever??? they have randy moss wes welker and picked up joey galloway in FA… why use your 1st round pick on a guy thats most likely gonna be your number 4 reciever?? ”
    Because Moss is only going to be around for another couple years, and Harvin is a ‘tweener talent, which we all know Bellichick loves. (Did your sources tell you that, Florio?) He’s simply an exlposive player. Who wouldn’t want that on an offense? Especially with a late first-round pick. Bellichik probably had several plays designed around Harvin floating around in his head already.

  71. More amusing for those who think Bellichick was coveting harvin, he had more than enough ammunition to jump the Vikes. The Eagles jumped up and got maclin, so why couldn’t he jump a couple of spots if he really wanted him?
    Fact is, Bellichick probably got the inside skinny that everyone close to the Florida program knows about Harvin, he’s an unbelievable talent, but good luck trying to control him, which will be made even more difficult with millions in one hand and a pound of weed in the other.

  72. A couple of things here. This is the second time Childress has crossed BB! He did it 2 years ago with Garrett Mills. BB was trying to sneak him on the practice squad and Childress went after him. BB took a LB from Minn. just to send a message, then cut him!
    I think Childress should concentrate on his own division. I don’t know why he’s so happy? After-all rookie receivers are usually not productive in thier first season….Harvin may turn out to be very productive, but we’re not there yet…

  73. It was pretty obvious that Childress wanted Percy Harvin when he came to Va. Beach last week and had diner with Harvin’s family. The entire area knew about it, so I don’t see how the Pats wouldn’t have either. News travels very fast these days. That visit made it well known that if he landed in the Vikes spot, they were taking him. You don’t have diner with the guys family a couple days before the draft for nothing, know?

  74. Why do some of you think Belicheck is so much smarter then everyone else involved with the NFL? You really think he does no wrong and always gets everything he wants?
    Belicheck wanted Harvin, why is that so hard for some of you to accept. Bill is Bill though and after his Plan A was gone, he quickly regrouped and still did what great teams do and that’s put together a hell of a draft plan. He grabbed a couple seconds for next year and took some quality defensive players.
    Harvin would have been another toy for Belicheck. You know he would have loved adding a dynamic return game and building some kinks into the offensive game plan for Harvin. Almost every team graded Harvin out as a top 10 talent, that really wasn’t a debate, just some teams didn’t want the off the field stuff, which is understandable, but at that point in the draft every team after the vikes would have taken a long look at Harvin. He is that good a talent.
    The thing about Belicheck is he doesn’t worry about a player’s off the field problems because he thinks he can mold any player with talent into a professional. The pats take troubled talent all the time, they’ve built championships out of it. They have a strong culture of accountability and make sure the player’s understand they are replaceable (outside the golden boy). The pats roster is loaded with talented players with troubled pasts and Harvin definetly was talented enough to be added to that mix.
    Chilly sees himself in that same mold. Now that he feels he has a strong locker room, he thinks he can look players in the eye and read them. He thinks he too can mold troubled talent into professional talent. Time will tell if he can, but there is no question this kid will be a difference maker.

  75. I still don’t see Percy playing a true slash role in the NFL. I see him as a receiver/returner. Run the ball and you risk getting nailed by one of the big boys. I think he’s a little too fragile to be carrying the ball regularly in the NFL. On an occassional reverse? Sure. Coming out of the backfield and drawing coverage by a LB? Absolutely. But I can’t see him getting 5+ actual carries a game lined up in the backfield. Most guys who’ve played that slash role have had a stockier build.

  76. WereComin says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
    Why do some of you think Belicheck is so much smarter then everyone else involved with the NFL? You really think he does no wrong and always gets everything he wants?
    Belicheck wanted Harvin, why is that so hard for some of you to accept.
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    Why does anyone think Belichick is smarter than everyone else? Two points on that: First, we’re saying he’s smarter than Childress, not everyone. That’s a much easier task. Secondly, how about past experience? Weis leaves, Mangini leaves, Pioli leaves, Deion Branch leaves, Brady gets injured in week 1… None of it matters. They still go 11-5 and narrowly miss the playoffs. THAT’s why people think he’s smart. Because no matter what happens to them they’re still one of the best teams in the league.
    Belichick wanted Harvin? And the proof you have is that Childress says so? I’m more inclined to think Childress is wrong than I am to think he actually pulled the wool over Belichick’s eyes. Sure, it’s possible Belichick would’ve drafted Percy at 23. But I don’t think it’s any secret the Vikings were interested in Percy. If Belichick really wanted him, he would’ve tried to move ahead of Minnesota.

  77. Brad Childress is hilarious! Gee I am relieved he is coaching my favorite team. That way I know the Vikings will never get snookered.
    Chilly, you need to actually accomplish something in this league before you talk junk.

  78. This logic makes no sense. If the Pats were trying to con the Vikes into taking Harvin in what way would that benefit them?? They traded out of the first round, they could have done that even if Harvin was there. What is more likely is that the Pats wanted him and when he was not there they traded out…

  79. bobert0219 says:
    April 28th, 2009 at 10:16 pm
    This logic makes no sense. If the Pats were trying to con the Vikes into taking Harvin in what way would that benefit them?? They traded out of the first round, they could have done that even if Harvin was there. What is more likely is that the Pats wanted him and when he was not there they traded out…
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    Or that their trading down had nothing to do with Harvin.

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