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Pats Hid Maroney's Broken Shoulder

After months of silence regarding the precise nature of the shoulder injury that caused him to land on injured reserve last season, Patriots running back Laurence Maroney has opted to speak out about his condition.
And, in so doing, he has revealed that the team concealed it.
I had a broken bone and I was trying to play with it,” Maroney said Saturday before teammate Kevin Faulk’s charity softball game, according to Christopher Gasper of the Boston Globe.
As Gasper explains, Maroney injured the shoulder in Week Two against the Jets, skipped the Week Three game against the Dolphins, and then returned to action against the 49ers, after a Week Four bye.
But his name did not appear anywhere on the injury report for the Week Five game against San Francisco.
The message?  He was completely healthy.
The reality?  He was anything but.
“It’s kind of hard to sit here and play and not tell people what is going on,” Maroney said.  “Everybody is going to think one way because they don’t really know what’s going on.  I dare anybody in this crowd to play football with a broken bone in your shoulder and you tell me how long you’re going to last out there.”
In explaining that he was frustrated by the perception that he lacks toughness, Maroney made it even more clear that there was an effort to keep the injury hidden.
“Reporters have a job to report stories, whether it’s good or bad,” Maroney said.  “I can’t get mad at them because they’re just doing their job.  It was my job not to say nothing at the time.”
After the Week Five game against San Fran, Maroney was placed on injured reserve.
In fairness to the Patriots, the team listed him as “questionable” with a shoulder injury for the Week Three game that he missed.  But the broader context created the perception that, by Week Five, the situation had resolved.
So now the question is whether the franchise that listed Tom Brady for years as “probable” with a shoulder injury no one believed he had will face any penalty from the league office for not listing Maroney as “probable” or worse when his shoulder was flat-out fractured.
If it were any other team, we’d be fairly confident that no action would be taken.  But given the Patriots’ history of being caught palms flat at the bottom of the cookie jar regarding the whole videotaping of defensive coaching signals thing and in light of the stern finger-wagging the franchise received in the aftermath thereof, the league might decide that the time has come to make an example out of them, again.
This time around, however, the Jets also should be nailed, given that the injury to Brett Favre’s arm/shoulder that has him now contemplating surgical options was never disclosed for the final games of the 2008 season, during which the injury supposedly was causing him to throw the ball to the guys on the other team.

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50 Responses to “Pats Hid Maroney's Broken Shoulder”
  1. jharmon64 says: May 17, 2009 8:03 AM

    Concerning the Jets, is there a rule for mandatory disclosure of an injury when the player is starting? Sounds odd, can someone please explain.

  2. TheDPR says: May 17, 2009 8:10 AM

    <<<<<
    This time around, however, the Jets also should be nailed, given that the injury to Brett Favre’s arm/shoulder that has him now contemplating surgical options was never disclosed for the final games of the 2008 season, during which the injury supposedly was causing him to throw the ball to the guys on the other team.
    <<<<<
    So what caused him to throw to the other team and set the league INT record during the rest of his career?

  3. JimmySmith says: May 17, 2009 8:23 AM

    Do you mean the Patriots cheated? I find that very hard to believe.

  4. Dawn says: May 17, 2009 8:34 AM

    http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/02/10/last-word-on-roethlisberger-injury/

  5. Sprint_DA says: May 17, 2009 8:34 AM

    Why should he have been on the injury report for week 5 if he played? I could understand your argument if he hadn’t appeared on the injury report going into week 5 but then didn’t play.
    Same thing with Favre. A probable listing on the injury report means that they are a virtual certainty to play. If they are definitely going to play, like 100% sure, why would they need to be listed at all?

  6. Dan1919 says: May 17, 2009 8:37 AM

    Florio,
    Maroney played. Why did he need to be on the injury report?

  7. podeveryday says: May 17, 2009 8:40 AM

    I’ve always supported maroney, but if we get in trouble for his big mouth i think its time to cut ties with him. I guess he’s just trying to tell other teams that he does have some toughness for trying to play with the injury. Your 3 year window is closed laurence, time to put up or shut up. I have a feeling we’ll keep him around for the first few games since he’s cheap, but if he doesn’t show signs of improvement he will be cut.

  8. Feetwet says: May 17, 2009 8:49 AM

    At the risk of feeding the ongoing Favre soap opera, he’s the King of the chuck and duck, sore shoulder or not. Giving the reciever “a chance to make a play” is not the same as consistently putting the ball into high risk coverages or throwing to guys that don’t have a step on the defender. And I don’t buy into all the warm and fuzzy labels like “gunslinger” and such, just to excuse his undisciplined and irresponsible decisionmaking. Great arm? Yeah, once upon a time. He’s done. I wish he would just go away.

  9. arosen36 says: May 17, 2009 8:49 AM

    boston is the city of cheaters

  10. neutral_like_sweden says: May 17, 2009 8:54 AM

    Seems like you forgot about the Superbowl when Greg Aiello said that a player (i.e. Roethlisberger) doesn’t have to be on the injury report just because he’s injured.

  11. blackglass3 says: May 17, 2009 8:56 AM

    Wouldn’t it be hypocritical for the same league that is opposing sports gambling this week to also penalize the Patriots for not respecting the injury report used for, well, sports gambling?

  12. bobbyjohn44 says: May 17, 2009 9:08 AM

    I’m pretty sure it’s not an injury that causes Favre to throw the ball to players on the other team.

  13. LSCII says: May 17, 2009 9:12 AM

    What a shock that you were able to take a story about a different player and still turn it into a Brett Favre related story. What a Richard you are. I think you have a little Favre juice still on your chin, Mike…

  14. taxistan says: May 17, 2009 9:13 AM

    if you ain’t cheating you arn’t trying!!

  15. realitypolice says: May 17, 2009 9:15 AM

    Oh the sweet irony of a story about the NFL’s opposition to gambling and the NFL’s injury report appearing on the same day. Everyone knows the injury report is used primarily by Vegas to set gambling lines. So on one hand, they spend millions of dollars in lobbying and legals fees trying to deny americans the fundamental right to do what they want with their money, and on the other rigourously enforce the injury report rules.
    What a bunch of cynical jerk-offs.

  16. realitypolice says: May 17, 2009 9:17 AM

    jharmon64-
    You honestly didn’t know that teams are required by league rules to disclose injuries to all players, regardless of whether they are starters or not?
    Wow.

  17. Smush Rodrigez says: May 17, 2009 9:24 AM

    They should be an example. It is not fair to the players in this situation. They could potentially lose money in this situation. The Pats should lose a 1st round draft pick. If you think this is too steep – keep in mind I hate the Patriots.

  18. olcap says: May 17, 2009 9:26 AM

    I agree that any team found breaking the rules when it clearly benefits them by doing so, deserves to be reprimanded. However, like the posters have pointed out, if the player isn’t listed with an injury, but starts and plays, the only benefit the opponent is missing by not having that information, is making the injured player (who is playing) a target during their game. There is a clear distinction between protecting an injured player who will be playing, and does play the game, and the team who hides an injury to a player that WON’T be playing, because that situation cause the opponent to not know how to practice for the game.
    The NFL needs to put this distinction into the rules for reporting injuries, by either warning teams that targeting a player’s injury will be met with heavy fines, or to allow teams to not report a player’s injury that they fear will be targeted by the opponent if the information is known to them.
    One case is protecting a player’s health, and the other case is providing a team with an advantage AGAINST

  19. PFTiswhatitis says: May 17, 2009 9:28 AM

    meh, it was pretty clear that Maroney was not 100% and since he did play why should he have been categorized as anything other than questionable? Same for Favre for that matter? The classification is not to indicate injury to the opponents it simply indicates whether the guy is going to play or not.
    Isn’t it about time the NFL revisits the whole thing anyhow. I mean its really all for Vegas and odds setting anyhow. You gonna tell me any team should be penalized for that?

  20. Alpheratz says: May 17, 2009 9:44 AM

    ………….yawn…………

  21. gosox2673 says: May 17, 2009 9:47 AM

    But he PLAYED in week 5. The injury report is only there to alert a team if a player will not be on the field. He played. There is nothing that says a injury must be reported in detail. If other teams and coaches choose to over-share, then that is there deal. it doesn’t mean The Patriots did anything wrong here.

  22. gosox2673 says: May 17, 2009 9:48 AM

    ^^^^ that goes for The Jets as well.

  23. Tundrastruck says: May 17, 2009 10:06 AM

    Florio, it’s pretty obvious you hate Brett Favre…did he steal your girlfriend? Was Deanna ever the potential mom to Florio, Jr.?

  24. tj.52 says: May 17, 2009 10:16 AM

    So what it comes down to is that when the Patriots fail to fully disclose every detail of a players injury status on a daily basis, it is diabolical trickery.
    When any other team does it, it is toughness and brilliant strategy.
    Sounds about as fair as any other jackassed statement I’ve heard applied to the Patriots recently.
    Thats alright, every time you write the word “Patriots” you put another nickel in Bobby Krafts pocket.
    Continue hating.

  25. Boltschick says: May 17, 2009 10:17 AM

    If the league doesn’t enforce the injury report rules, then it should abolish the injury reports altogether because other teams that abide by the rules are being put at a disadvantage.

  26. MarkB says: May 17, 2009 10:19 AM

    Florio cares, no one else does.

  27. FlyingElvis says: May 17, 2009 10:30 AM

    Once again the Pats will be vilified for a practice widely used by every NFL team.

  28. Sam Malone says: May 17, 2009 10:31 AM

    So am I to understand that a team is required to list every players injury regardless of if he’s playing or not?

  29. RI Batman says: May 17, 2009 10:32 AM

    If the biceps/shoulder injury is what has been causing Favre to throw it to the other team, then the Packers have not been disclosing this injury for about 13 years.

  30. chcgokoala says: May 17, 2009 10:33 AM

    What a way to get on a good side of the coach, Lawrence.

  31. hayward giablommi says: May 17, 2009 10:33 AM

    “If it were any other team, we’d be fairly confident that no action would be taken. But given the Patriots’ history of being caught palms flat at the bottom of the cookie jar regarding the whole videotaping of defensive coaching signals thing and in light of the stern finger-wagging the franchise received in the aftermath thereof, the league might decide that the time has come to make an example out of them, again.
    This time around, however, the Jets also should be nailed, given that the injury to Brett Favre’s arm/shoulder that has him now contemplating surgical options was never disclosed for the final games of the 2008 season, during which the injury supposedly was causing him to throw the ball to the guys on the other team.”
    ————————————-
    When all else fails, and there’s noother news to report, drag up Spygate and throw Brett Fav-rah into the fray. “Journalism” circa 2009 for ya.

  32. jlsnova73 says: May 17, 2009 10:51 AM

    Seeing how Kraft and Goodell are such good buddies, and for how light they got off on their last infraction, it wouldn’t suprise me to see nothing come of this. As long as these two are such good bedtime buddies, nothing will really come of anything the Patriots will do in the future for cheating.

  33. Pastabelly says: May 17, 2009 10:54 AM

    Teams define players as either out, doubtful, questionable, or probable. Doubtful means there is at least a 75 percent chance that the player won’t play, while questionable is 50-50, and probable is a virtual certainty that the player will be available for normal duty.
    Maroney wasn’t on the injury report because there was a 100% chance that he was going to play. He carried the ball 10 times. Much ado about nothing Florio.

  34. ScottyFargo says: May 17, 2009 11:16 AM

    You are such a white knight, Florio.

  35. PatFlorio-White says: May 17, 2009 11:25 AM

    TheDPR… them dang broken thumbs.. and before that the jitters from not getting any vicodin during a 3+play drive

  36. Insomniac says: May 17, 2009 11:45 AM

    Maroney practiced all week before the SF game and started. The following week (@SD) he had limited participation in practice and was questionable with a shoulder injury. He was inactive for the game. Then he was placed on IR.
    If they come down on NE, then I bet every person on their roster is listed on every injury report the whole year.

  37. 3efin says: May 17, 2009 12:02 PM

    The bottom line is that Maroney played in the games. If he was not listed on the injury report, and DIDN’T play, then you’d have a gripe.
    Why would you want to tell the opposing team where a player is vulnerable, so that they can try to put him out of the game? ……..or do you think that sort of thing doesn’t go on in the NFL?

  38. jersey73 says: May 17, 2009 12:56 PM

    Dear Fans,
    The Patriots would never make an injured player play in a game.
    Sincerely,
    Ted Johnson

  39. Casanova says: May 17, 2009 1:16 PM

    JimmySmith is a coke head

  40. pats suck says: May 17, 2009 1:16 PM

    This is what the cheaters do – they cheat. SpyGate is the most glaring but never forget the fish rots from the head. Belicheat is a pos who broke up two marriages – he is a disgrace, and we do know he was $250K and the franchise stripped of a first rd pick, unprecedented.
    Who knows else has yet to come to light? Eff NE, and their fans.

  41. trixstal says: May 17, 2009 1:47 PM

    Maroney, Shut the f%$# up and play the game! What a dumb ass. He let his pride take over and opened up, um, his team, to controversy. Get rid of this guy. Its obvious he doesn’t get it. This is stuff you reveal when you retire. If he could find the hole as fast as his mouth runs, he’d be worth it.

  42. JimmySmith says: May 17, 2009 2:58 PM

    I love how the NE fans turn on the player, as if its his fault that the organization elected to cheat again. If Maroney were smart, he get out of NE now before the fans arrange an accidental season ending injury for him.
    But before we pronounce guilt on the Patriots, lets ask if Bellicheat merely misunderstood the league policy? That’s always an excuse, I mean, possible reason.

  43. myusernamestinks says: May 17, 2009 3:47 PM

    I see a change of address in Mr. Maroney’s near future.

  44. Ralphie says: May 17, 2009 4:42 PM

    BB tried to conceal Maroney’s injury…an incredibly smart tactic by BB. That way you have to prepare for the whole NE team. No free lunch for you losers. Maroney’s a stud playing with a busted shoulder, kudo’s to him by the way. Remember in November of 2006 the NFL tried to crack down on Belichick and the injury report? In response he listed something like 50 players as “Questionable” on the report that week. I loved it, this drives douche-bags like JimmySmith crazy. Hey JimmyDouche, Bill says “GFY” (but he said it with a big happy smile so it’s cool). Nothing’s going to happen with this one, it’ll just fade away and Jimmy and friends are just going to have to grin and swallow.

  45. CarawayDJ says: May 17, 2009 5:29 PM

    Maroney was on the injury report! He was listed with a shoulder problem. So tell me, what is it exactly that the Pats were hiding? They do not need to declare the specific type of injury. The fact is that he was on the injury reports for a shoulder. He was listed as “Questionable” which is once again NOT misleading, since he did suit up. This is a misleading article. Go back and do a little Internet research and look up the 2008 injury reports. I enjoy reading all of the posts about the Pats cheating again. Do a little homework, you know that thing you were supposed to do in school. Here is the injury report from week 6:
    “NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS at SAN DIEGO CHARGERS
    NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
    Status Report
    DOUBTFUL LB Eric Alexander (hamstring), RB LaMont Jordan (calf), WR Kelley Washington (ankle)
    QUESTIONABLE RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder), CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring)
    Practice Report
    DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN PRACTICE
    Wednesday LB Eric Alexander (hamstring), RB LaMont Jordan (calf), WR Kelley Washington (hamstring)
    Thursday LB Eric Alexander (hamstring), RB LaMont Jordan (calf), TE David Thomas (other-flu), WR Kelley Washington (ankle)
    Friday LB Eric Alexander (hamstring), RB LaMont Jordan (calf), WR Kelley Washington (ankle)
    LIMITED PARTICIPATION IN PRACTICE
    Wednesday CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring)
    Thursday K Stephen Gostkowski (right thigh), RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder), CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring)
    Friday RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder), CB Lewis Sanders (hamstring)
    FULL PARTICIPATION IN PRACTICE
    Wednesday RB Laurence Maroney (shoulder) “

  46. JoeSixPack says: May 17, 2009 5:50 PM

    The NFL should force teams to make all injuries public.
    They should also force teams to share their playbook with the public as well… and disclose which plays they will be running each game.
    All of that would make the game much better.

  47. Alpheratz says: May 17, 2009 7:28 PM

    Caraway, we can’t have the facts get in the way of ritualistic Patriots bashing.

  48. Dungylovesdagays says: May 17, 2009 8:13 PM

    who cares ? Maroneys a stiff!!!

  49. JoeSixPack says: May 17, 2009 10:01 PM

    MarkB says: Florio cares, no one else does.
    Not true – the bookies in Las Vegas very much care. As does the mafia.
    Which is why the NFL has the injury reporting rule in the first place.
    You don’t actually think there’s a reason other than betting why the NFL requires coaces to divulge injuries do you? Fairness? What could be more fair than not having an injury report at all?

  50. Dont Taze Me Bro says: May 17, 2009 10:50 PM

    David Ortiz is a shell of his former juiced up self since his contact Manny Ramirez was traded away. This little mini controversy is nothing,

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