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Mudd, Moore To Return As Consultants

So now that former Colts offensive line coach Howard Mudd and former Colts offensive coordinator Tom Moore have done the “Who’s coming with me?” thing and taken a stand against the March 2009 decision to permit individual teams to opt out of the league-run pension plan, both of them are carrying their goldfish bags back to the team headquarters.
According to Clark Judge of CBSSports.com, Mudd and Moore will return as consultants.
“I’ve talked to them,” owner Jim Irsay said at the ownership meeting in Florida, “and know they would like to come back and do it and be part of it.  They’re going year to year, but they want to be part of it, and I’m for that.”
That’s great for the Colts, but we still can’t figure out how the league’s current decision to allow individual teams to opt out of the league-run plan prompted the retire-and-return decision.
As best we can tell, based on things we’ve privately been told and things that NFL general counsel Jeff Pash publicly said on Tuesday, it didn’t.
The problem that forced Mudd and Moore to take their lump-sum pension payments now has no bearing on the move to permit teams to set up their own pension plans.
But, hey, kudos to Larry Kennan of the NFL Coaches Association for using the Mudd and Moore situation as a way to shine a light on the league’s decision to bring the pension plan more in line with other American businesses.
Even though the opt-out rule is as responsible for the predicament Mudd and Moore faced as the aftermath of a bean binge is for global warming, Kennan and Mudd sufficiently clouded the issue to bring plenty of publicity to a problem that no one in the media noticed until it was being blamed for Mudd’s potential retirement.

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15 Responses to “Mudd, Moore To Return As Consultants”
  1. Slow Joe says: May 20, 2009 12:24 PM

    I’ve completely ignored every post about this story.
    I think this is an instance where ignorance truly is bliss.
    Love ya, Mike. In the non-Will-and-Grace way.

  2. ClevelandSucks aka Philly Sewer Rat says: May 20, 2009 12:32 PM

    Dungy is gone, Colts won’t be the same…GO STEELERS!

  3. workhorse says: May 20, 2009 12:47 PM

    “I’m not dead (yet).”
    – Monty Python(ish)

  4. nextyear says: May 20, 2009 12:50 PM

    This “double-dipping” is common in Ohio where a person retires and collects full pension benefits and them comes back to the same employer as a “consultant” to do the same job. The employee benefits by essentially collecting 2 paychecks to do the same job and the employer benefits by usually paying a lower salary and not having to contribute toward pension/health benefits. Don’t know why this is such a big story. All assistant coaches who are eligible to retire should do the same thing.

  5. VaBthang4 says: May 20, 2009 12:50 PM

    “That’s great for the Colts, but we still can’t figure out how the league’s current decision to allow individual teams to opt out of the league-run plan prompted the retire-and-return decision.” -PFT
    ROTFLOL – VaBthang4

  6. The Captains Log says: May 20, 2009 1:35 PM

    Why am I not surprised? What are they trying to accomplish? They wanted out when Dungy left, but were talked into staying. They wanted out when the pension topic came up, so they retired. Now they are coming back again, as consultants???? What the F is the point?
    I suppose it is good for the rest of the NFL, as Mudd was regarded as one of the best “signal stealers” in the game (in a non video kind of way). Yes Colts fans, your coaches do try to steal signals too. They just steal in an acceptable way. But I digress…….

  7. JAXSUN says: May 20, 2009 1:56 PM

    I had a science teacher in who retired and came back to substitute, he could still collect his pension that way and still bask in the glory of creeping on young talent. Maybe thats what Mudd and Moore are doing now, collecting their pension while enjoying the talent that is Peyton. Thinking of it, Peyton probably has the same sized boobs now of the girls back then.

  8. TheMatic says: May 20, 2009 2:00 PM

    But wait…Florio…I thought that Mudd and Moore were being forced out by Jim Caldwell and not this pension fiasco just like you said. And then they were going to go coach in the UFL just like you said. HA HA HA loser.

  9. Pea Tear Griffin says: May 20, 2009 2:28 PM

    @Mike Florio
    You really just used the Jerry McGuire YouTube link? You should have used the one from The Office where Pam went with Michael.

  10. reptar says: May 20, 2009 2:56 PM

    Wow. Way to report something everybody knew three or four days ago. You know how we asked you to report the whole story here, including the fact that both would stay on as consultants? Yeah. That’s journalism.
    Looking forward to your theories on how this is all part of Caldwell and Polian’s nefarious scheme to destroy the known universe.

  11. Bearz fan says: May 20, 2009 3:14 PM

    You’re missing the obvious. It’s about market timing, they are taking the money out of the pension plan and investing it at a stock market bottom. Opportunities like this don’t come around very often and the market won’t look nearly as appealing a year or two down the road.

  12. lezmaka says: May 20, 2009 4:39 PM

    I don’t believe you’ve mentioned this story by Peter King, which makes a hell of a lot more sense than your post about how maybe, just maybe, the power has gone to Caldwell’s head, or maybe, just maybe someone stole their ham sandwiches or whatever it was that you made up.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/05/17/nfl/index.html
    “But neither club or league lawyers could assure them that they’d be able to take a lump-sum payment if they retired beyond this year. Not because of what the Colts would do with their pension plan. (“The Colts will fund our plan fully,” said Polian.) But because of what their previous employers would do. Mudd worked previously with San Diego, San Francisco, Seattle, Cleveland and Kansas City. Moore worked for Pittsburgh, Minnesota, Detroit and New Orleans.
    If any of those teams funded their pension plan at less than 80 percent of the minimum standard for pension plans, Moore and Mudd risked not being able to take their retirement pensions in a lump sum. San Francisco and New Orleans are likely to opt out of the league pension plan; Minnesota might. So even though the Colts are likely to fund, as Polian says, neither the Colts nor advisers to Moore and Mudd could guarantee that they’d be able to take the lump-sum payment.”
    If you were 67 or 70 years old, and you had a lot of money locked up in a pension, would you really want to risk not being able to get it all at once, not matter how unlikely?
    Why haven’t any others done something similar? Well, how many coaches are still coaching that are 65+ years old, are working on their 4th decade as a coach, and have worked for several teams that are likely to opt out of the pension plan? I’d say not many.

  13. Benacci says: May 20, 2009 6:59 PM

    “JAXSUN says:
    May 20th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
    I had a science teacher in who retired and came back to substitute, he could still collect his pension that way and still bask in the glory of creeping on young talent. Maybe thats what Mudd and Moore are doing now, collecting their pension while enjoying the talent that is Peyton. Thinking of it, Peyton probably has the same sized boobs now of the girls back then. ”
    ———————————————————–
    Hey Jax fan, are the banjo’s strumming in the background while your dry humping your cousin? Because your mind must be distracted to come up with such a lame dig on Peyton…..Oh wait maybe you just be ignorant! Cracker.

  14. blue horse shoe says: May 20, 2009 8:31 PM

    lezmaka: You forgot to say: “And Polian does not lie” lol
    reptar:
    no one even brought up Polian, you did. You are the biggest whiner,Why do you even read this site? I am sticking to the theory that you are Chris or an employee of the Colts.

  15. blue horse shoe says: May 20, 2009 8:38 PM

    BTW – Mudd and Moore are still listed on the Colts website as coaches.

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