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Blackouts Loom For The Jags?

In an effort to create a single identity in 2009 and beyond, the Jaguars have ditched their black jerseys.
Fans who hope to watch the games at home might instead be treated to a black screen.
While emptying out the e-mail box on Friday night, I noticed a message with a link to a May 14 item from the Florida Times-Union regarding the challenge the Jaguars face, if they hope to have all of their home games shown on television.
Basically, they need to sell 50,000 non-premium tickets to each and every game.  As of last week, they were at only 35,000.
And so, math majors, this means that the Jaguars need to sell 15,000 non-premium tickets per game.
Vito Stellino of the Times-Union points out that, last year at this time, 43,000 non-premium seats per game had been sold.  Eventually, the Jaguars avoided any blackouts.
This time around, the gap is much bigger — and the economy likely won’t be sufficiently turned around by the time football season starts to boost sales.
To paraphrase Roy Scheider, it looks like they’re gonna need a bigger tarp.

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41 Responses to “Blackouts Loom For The Jags?”
  1. Joe Flacco says: May 22, 2009 9:03 PM

    The fact that Jacksonville got a team before Baltimore could get theirs back is absolutely ridiculous. The Ravens continue to have one of the best fanbases in the NFL and Jacksonville can’t even sell out one home game.

  2. Walking Deadman says: May 22, 2009 9:10 PM

    The Jags are going to have to move…….LA Jaguars anyone?

  3. hay1111 says: May 22, 2009 9:11 PM

    Introducing the Los Angeles Jaguars…

  4. ar1888 says: May 22, 2009 9:22 PM

    This is why I think they are the obvious choice to relocate to L.A.

  5. DwightKSchrute says: May 22, 2009 9:23 PM

    Maybe Kramer could get some more crime scene yellow tape of tape off some sections?

  6. sevenirongator says: May 22, 2009 9:37 PM

    They can always apply for tarp funds…

  7. Deel says: May 22, 2009 10:05 PM

    Yeah there would never be the chance for a blackout in So Cal. Oh right.

  8. cromartie says: May 22, 2009 10:17 PM

    Let me fourth the notion that this team, not the Vikings, not the Saints, not even the Chargers, will be the ones to move to LA.

  9. moufpuncha says: May 22, 2009 10:31 PM

    Yada yada yada. It’s the same song and dance every year. I’m surprised this was posted so late in the year. The fact is, the Jaguars are stuck in Jacksonville until like 2031. The total amount required to break the lease is going to be huge. I don’t care who are you are, it’s not going to be worth moving. Their only hope is that the stadium falls apart. And since it’s one of the better stadiums in the league….

  10. moufpuncha says: May 22, 2009 10:42 PM

    People get caught up in the fact that there are tarps in the stadium. I can tell none of you have ever been to Jacksonville. The stadium is way too big for such a spread out area. And the stadium also was partly built for college football games. Of course they’re not gonna sell it out every single game. It’s easier to sell out stadiums in Kansas City, etc, because the metro areas are so cramped up, especially when compared to the size of the stadium. The truth is the team has quadrupled in value over it’s existence and it’s going to be incredibly difficult to break the lease, even if they wanted too.

  11. greggyd717 says: May 22, 2009 10:55 PM

    I always find it amusing that fan bases around the country are like this. Being a Philly fan, I don’t even have a chance to get season tickets for the next 20+ years if I put my name on the waitlist and tickets sell out to all of the games in 10 minutes or less every year.

  12. nedirect says: May 22, 2009 11:06 PM

    the next time any of Floridas professional sports teams receives any kind of support from the locals (playoff games aside) will be the first.

  13. Girthy One says: May 22, 2009 11:10 PM

    Jacksonville clearly isn’t a football city. Small towns can support a team (i.e. Green Bay), but Jacksonville apparently one if they are winning.
    Perhaps I missed your sarcastic point with the simple math shot, but were you just insulting the masses? Kinda like players flipping off their own fans a bit.

  14. nflfann says: May 22, 2009 11:18 PM

    Bye Bye Jaggies………….

  15. nflfann says: May 22, 2009 11:20 PM

    Just switch Kansas City to AFC South, and the Jags to the AFC West.

  16. GeauxSaints12 says: May 22, 2009 11:39 PM

    Come on Jag fans i do not want to see a team move to LA. That city has failed twice with NFL teams and im sure if a team moves there it will be 3 times.

  17. nflfann says: May 22, 2009 11:43 PM

    Excuses, Excuses,
    I lived in North Florida, and as usual every year they could not give Jags gear away.
    Jags Gear was always on clearance 3 games into the season.
    Nobody cares.
    Dolphins gear in North Florida-sold out.
    The workers would always comment on why they carry Jags merchandise when nobody buys it.
    L.A. Jaguars sounds great.

  18. TealDeal says: May 23, 2009 12:58 AM

    Nah, it’s the college mentality here. These asshats “love dem sum Gaturs” as long as they are winning. We knew this was going to happen between going 5-11 and the economy.
    They don’t understand that the NFL doesn’t allow you to schedule DeVry and Our Sister of the Immaculate Reception to blow out by 50 points.
    I’ve got my tickets, that’s all I can do. I’m really surprised that it took this long to hear about on here. Bring on the Tarp jokes bitches. I can take it. I’d rather have tarps and live where I do, than in some of the shithole towns that have nothing else to do but shovel snow with my woolly mammoth of a wife or go to the game.
    Come on we’re going into year 15. It takes time to build a devout following.

  19. TheR-illest says: May 23, 2009 1:45 AM

    The Jaguar organization needs to stop blaming the fans and take responsibility for their mistakes. The team/organization has done nothing this year or in the past several years to get the community excited about the team. When giving the opportunity to bring in big time blockbuster free agents like Randy Moss, they instead bring in players like Jerry Porter. YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR WAYNE! Also, this off season the FANS were begging for the return of some local high school heroes which would give a lot of the fans some players they could identify with (Brian Dawkins, Laveranues “trouble” Coles and Leto Sheppard). Instead Jacksonville did nothing… with tremendous need for impact players in all their positions…. But the amazing scouting staff did manage to snatch Shawn Considine from the Eagles…come on, WTF!
    Combine all this with the fact that the players quit during several games last season, they shipped off one of the greatest Jaguars ever (Fred Taylor) over what amounts to a few bucks……..and the only time you see Jaguar players are at the club the Friday night/Saturday morning before a Sunday game, or on the police blotter…do you really expect the fans to run down to the ticket office in these tough times. In fact, the fans are not broke….they are just pissed!

  20. NoHomeTeam says: May 23, 2009 2:10 AM

    moufpuncha says: ” . . . The fact is, the Jaguars are stuck in Jacksonville until like 2031. The total amount required to break the lease is going to be huge. I don’t care who are you are, it’s not going to be worth moving . . .”
    I’ll try to tread lightly here, Mouf, because I get the impression that you’re a dedicated Jacksonville-area fan who doesn’t want to see your team leave. I can truly empathize. That said, I think you shouldn’t count too heavily on any kind of stadium lease keeping your team in place. A motivated owner will find a way to pull off a move if he or she thinks there is money to be made. There are always loopholes to be exploited. Even if a contract is airtight, the costs of a “move-out” penalty can be factored into any deal the team makes with its new venue.
    I’m not saying it’s going to happen, but it’s really a bit naive to think that it can’t.

  21. NoHomeTeam says: May 23, 2009 2:23 AM

    nflfann says: “L.A. Jaguars sounds great.”
    No, it really doesn’t. I know you were making a point about the lack of support for the team in Florida, but I just had to address this.
    Point number one for any team that relocates here: this must effectively be a new team. All nomenclature, colors, logos, and records must be left behind. If there is to be any hope for Southern Californians to embrace a relocated franchise, the team must be essentially cut from whole cloth, like the Baltimore Ravens.

  22. NoHomeTeam says: May 23, 2009 3:28 AM

    GeauxSaints12 says: “Come on Jag fans i do not want to see a team move to LA. That city has failed twice with NFL teams and im sure if a team moves there it will be 3 times.”
    Why, exactly, do you care if Wayne Weaver moves his team to Los Angeles, or sells it to someone who does? I will guess that you live somewhere in the state of Louisiana, or its immediate neighbors. Your team has just signed an agreement to keep it in New Orleans — Congratulations, your team is not moving to Southern California. I hope that the team continues to justify your allegiance in the future, although history is not on your side.
    I get weary of saying this, but there is much ignorance to overcome. Los Angeles hasn’t failed the NFL twice. The NFL has failed us twice. Fans here supported the Rams well after it became clear that they were not remotely committed to fielding a winning team, and there is still (inexplicably) a large contingent of Raider fans lurking about in Southern California.
    It’s true that we won’t blindly support a perpetual loser, nor should we, but if a team shows us that it least has the potential to compete, we will support it. Both USC and UCLA have very strong fan-bases, and even our Arena football team produced decent numbers.
    I’ll close with this, although I know I probably shouldn’t: I seem to recall seeing, not all that many years ago, shots from the Superdome showing a great many Saints fans sitting there disguised as empty seats. I think New Orleans was pretty close to “failing” with the NFL, too.

  23. bwhite11 says: May 23, 2009 3:28 AM

    How many season ticket holders do the Jags have, 6?

  24. Rufio says: May 23, 2009 3:44 AM

    the Jags will not leave Jacksonville! they have a great stadium, and a growing fan base that supports them. The stadium (without the tarps) seats 80, 000! that’s ridiculous for a 15 year old franchise. if we had a stadium the size of the packers (56k) we would be able to fill that no problem. So Don’t make fun of the jags, cuz our stadium is bigger than yours (save cowboys, cardinals, and colts) we are young with a growing fanbase. In five to ten years i can guarantee we will sell out!

  25. ras611 says: May 23, 2009 6:51 AM

    nflfann says:
    May 22nd, 2009 at 11:43 pm
    “Excuses, Excuses,
    I lived in North Florida, and as usual every year they could not give Jags gear away.
    Jags Gear was always on clearance 3 games into the season.
    Nobody cares.
    Dolphins gear in North Florida-sold out.
    The workers would always comment on why they carry Jags merchandise when nobody buys it.
    L.A. Jaguars sounds great.”
    This is stupid and false.

  26. Kotite says: May 23, 2009 7:13 AM

    The comments posted are so knee jerk whenever this topic comes up that it’s comical. Anyone who lives in Jax knows they were hit harder than most with this economic downturn because of the major employers in that market. Bank of America and Merrill Lynch (who merged, causing thousands to lose decent paying jobs) both have huge operations there as does Blue Cros Blue Shield of Florida (who recently cut about $100M in payroll). When you look at overall fan attendance, the Jags have been in the top half in the league and it is certainly not like they are the only team worrying about blackouts. They don’t have an incredibly long history like a team like, say, the Browns who are also facing blackouts and have already mourned the loss of their franchise once. This is a concern for plenty of teams, but since only 1% of of NFL fans nationally root for the Jags, the hater bandwagon cheer is always, “L.A. Jaguars.” They have a fresh new face of the franchise in Maurice Jones-Drew and are trying to rebrand their product. Adding Torry Holt, even beyond his prime, doesn’t hurt. They’re doing everything they need to be doing to get the bad apples out of the locker room and create a new chemistry among players (they just overhauled their weight room and implemented the most modern strength and conditioning program of any NFL team). Fans just need to get the scratch together to buy tickets. The home schedule isn’t stellar, but even if there are a couple of blackouts, the team is staying in Jacksonville. And the arrow is pointing up.

  27. screaming sheep says: May 23, 2009 8:22 AM

    Technically its not South Georgia.

  28. PARavensJeff says: May 23, 2009 10:11 AM

    Just cover more sections with tarps & you have sellouts again!!! Isn’t that what the Jags have done the last several years? & to think Tagliboo gave them a team & shunned Baltimire!!! HAHAHA, Ravens sold out every year win or lose & Jags can’t sell out win or lose!!

  29. etronsman says: May 23, 2009 10:46 AM

    Rufio, Lambeau Field (Green Bay) seats 72k +.
    That being said, I think the Jags have a number of things going against them:
    1) New franchise
    2) Boring offense
    3) No “dynamic” player – although a big year from MoJo as the feature back would help things tremendously.
    I think when you add all those things up, along with the fact that this really is a Florida Gator town and the down economy, it’s no wonder people don’t buy season tickets. I can say confidently that I’ve gone to the stadium on game day and got $5-$10 upper deck seats. What’s the incentive of forking out money ahead of time for a potentially bad product?

  30. jbibbee says: May 23, 2009 11:21 AM

    SO tired of people talking about Jacksonville that have no idea what’s going on in this town. Rufio is the only one with an intelligent comment on the whole page. Great job jerkies… none of you has a Fin clue. So why don’t you just keep our name out your mouth and enjoy whatever shithole town you live in. I gotta go to the beach.

  31. Robolis says: May 23, 2009 11:25 AM

    Does no one realize that the Jaguars stadium is only 3k seats smaller than the brand new Cowboys facility will be without those tarps? About 77,000 vs 80,000
    Type blackout into PFT’s search and look at the teams who barely avoided blackouts last year and their stadium capacities.
    Vikings, 64,000
    Cardinals, 63,400 (needed TWO extensions for a home playoff game)
    Chargers, 71,000 (Here is one larger than the Jags capacity for games of 67,000)
    Rams, 67,000
    And that’s about as far back as I’m willing to go.
    And it’s May.
    So eat shit.

  32. obscenery says: May 23, 2009 1:59 PM

    wow. lot’s of emotion in the comments to this one.
    I’d rather have the Jags in Toronto than the Bills. Of course if Toronto gets any NFL franchise then the Bills would have a black out for every game. Buffalo needs Toronto audiences. It’s the same in the NHL (admittedly, a poorly run league in comparison).
    As a Fins fan i’d hate to see the Bills fold, cause I LOVE the rivalry. I’d rather they move to Toronto, where Bills fans in Buffalo could drive too easily.
    So on second thought, keep the Jags. Bring T.O. and the Bills to TO!

  33. Sock_Puppet says: May 23, 2009 3:17 PM

    Everyone refers to Jacksonville as a small town, yet it is the 12th largest city in the United States and the largest city in Florida. LOL at the commenter comparing Green Bay to Jax. You would probably be able to count all the stoplights in Green Bay on your fingers and toes if you didn’t have to take off all the damn socks warding off the frostbite. Also, the size of the stadium is huge compared to some of the other teams. I’m no homer. Big Blue thru and thru.

  34. Raiders757 says: May 23, 2009 3:38 PM

    “The fact that Jacksonville got a team before Baltimore could get theirs back is absolutely ridiculous. The Ravens continue to have one of the best fanbases in the NFL and Jacksonville can’t even sell out one home game. ”
    Even though I think the Ravens are the most boring team in the history of all of football, I love the city, and love their fans. I’ve been to games there, and have always been treated with respect and welcomed there. It’s always a great time in Baltimore, and the fans make it even that much more of a good time. I’m sure it’s not the same for Steelers fans, but that can be expected.

  35. Raiders757 says: May 23, 2009 3:43 PM

    Oh, and to add…
    Thank goodness Jacksonville got rid of those ugly all black uniforms. Whoever came up with the solid color idea has really bad taste. Now if the Eagles, Saints, and Seahawks would follow their lead. The Eagles and Hawks need to bring back the silver pants.

  36. nflfann says: May 23, 2009 8:33 PM

    ras611 says:
    I like to eat poop especially Jaguar poop.
    Yum Yum.
    Wayne Weaver is my Master.
    My Cacausian Dada.

  37. nflfann says: May 23, 2009 8:43 PM

    nflfann says: “L.A. Jaguars sounds great.”
    No, it really doesn’t. I know you were making a point about the lack of support for the team in Florida, but I just had to address this.
    Point number one for any team that relocates here: this must effectively be a new team. All nomenclature, colors, logos, and records must be left behind. If there is to be any hope for Southern Californians to embrace a relocated franchise, the team must be essentially cut from whole cloth, like the Baltimore Ravens.
    Comparing Southern California to North Florida is like comparing a Rolls Royce to a AMC Gremlin.
    In So. Ca. there are a million of things to do with great weather year round.
    Jax has oppressive summers, where you have to stay in doors all day.
    Jax has horrible food. So. Ca has many diverse Resturants that are excellent.
    Jax has grits and people that sound like Forest Gump. So. Ca people speak proper english.
    Jax has the Gators.
    So. Ca has the Lakers , USC, Dodgers.
    Jax has no entertainment except “Deliverance” reruns.
    So. Ca. is the entertainment capital period.
    So. Ca and L.A. are the number two market.
    Wow, your right what a mistake it would be for the Jags to leave North Florida! sarcasm
    hahahaha

  38. TheR-illest says: May 24, 2009 7:56 AM

    The fans are tired of being threatened! For the last few years the fans have to hear…”the team is moving to LA, we are gonna loose our team, the fans have no passion”…hog wash!
    Season tickets are an investment in your team that can be cherish for generations! Do you really think people are going to make an investment in something thats everyone is saying will not be around?
    Its also not the fans fault that they built the stadium too big!
    Wayne Weaver may need to do what Arthur Blank did and ask the fans what they want instead of listening to a group of individuals who have never been completely successful at their current positions (Head Coach/GM)! I (a fan and season ticket holder for 5 years), would love to see you make a serious run at Anquan Boldin……him plus Holt and Jones-Drew would make for some serious excitement come gameday!
    A dome would be great too, but we will be good with Boldin for now…our you listening Wayne!!!!!

  39. nflfann says: May 24, 2009 1:41 PM

    Please move this team to L.A.
    Jax is a miserable city, please put it out of its misery.
    A nice new 75,000 seat stadium is waiting in L.A.

  40. Titansfansyusobitter says: May 26, 2009 1:55 PM

    this guy “nflfann” is in love with this thread. do you get the cell phone updates with each comment? you do don’t you you mindless… forget it i’m not wasting my time with what is obvious.
    this thread is pretty entertaining. several of you bring some good points to the table, others are just football fans who are the kind of guys who drink a 12 pack at the bar and just spit random football facts that aren’t even accurate (i try to stay away from those intellectuals personally).
    all i have to say is this… the Jags stadium has been downsized by the retarded tarps to fit the size of its city. we all know that college teams and the Falcons impede on the Jags market and that time is not on this teams side (they haven’t been around long enough to have generations of fans like Jets/Giants in same territory etc). Weaver is not picking up big name players just for “ammusement”. the dude is in business, and if this business isn’t making him revenue in Jacksonville.. he will do what it takes to fix that.. even though he has stated he doesn’t want the team to leave Jacksonville.. the dude is like 80 years old (or upper 70s). yes, i read that somewhere.. i’m not playing 12 pack drunk guy at the bar here. so basically it comes down to whether or not the Jags fans are going to show up. they have seriously started to penetrade the Orlando market (which has been dominated by Tampa and Miami… yes Miami still dominates all of Florida due to those “glory days”).
    Weaver is putting a lot games into blackout this year to force locals to go to games. The support is building, just not fast enough. The fans will come, rest assure. The largest factor is how long will Weaver put up with the snails pace this organization is growing compared to its peers Titans/Panthers? Yes, he has commited to the Jags staying in Jacksonville.. but we can only be realistic in understanding that either the fan base will build to support this team, or Weaver will wave the white flag and make a decision that is in the better interest of his cash…
    I’m surprised no one has addressed the conflict of Weaver committing this team to Jacksonville and his pushing daiseys age.
    (Yes, I started to capitalize my sentences toward the end of this post once the side effects of reading nflfann’s comments began wearing off. Might take some time to fully recover.. I can still feel myself wanting to straddle barb wire from reading that nonsense.)

  41. bigvinnyinjax says: May 27, 2009 1:49 PM

    Kotite and TheR-illest, nice to see a few coherent thoughts on this subject. Thanks.
    If the Jaguars win and / or stop making moronic personnel moves the fans will come back. They were there before, and they’ll be there again.
    The stadium sold old just fine (no tarp) when the team was winning. Period.

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