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NFL Still Plans To Try To Suspend The Williams Wall

There’s an erroneous Associated Press report regarding Tuesday’s hearing in the case brought by Vikings defensive tackles Kevin and Pat Williams due to the StarCaps suspensions.
The AP report initially said that the league’s lawyer told Hennepin County Judge Gary Larson that the NFL “won’t try to enforce its four-game suspension” of the two players.
Not true, we’re told.
The league instead told the Court that Kevin and Pat Williams will not be suspended until the first game of the regular season, and that in the interim they are free to participate in all activities — offseason workouts, training camp, and preseason games.  (That’s standard practice in matters of this nature.)
The NFL also has taken the position that no preliminary injunction from the state court is needed, since the federal court has lifted its ban on the imposition of a suspension pending the outcome of the litigation.
On this point, we disagree with the league.  It’s one thing for the federal court to lift its injunction now that the federal claims have failed before Judge Paul Magnuson.  It’s quite another for the state court to determine whether the claims arising under Minnesota law are sufficiently viable to prevent the league from suspending the players until the remaining portion of their claims has been resolved by a Minnesota court.
We tend to think that, for the same reason the federal court blocked the suspensions pending the May 22 dismissal of most of the case, the state court should do the same thing — prevent the implementation of the suspensions until a final ruling is issued by the Minnesota court.

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23 Responses to “NFL Still Plans To Try To Suspend The Williams Wall”
  1. Tundrastruck says: Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM

    Florio you are doing it again…..ts more obvious each time.

  2. Idle Hands says: Jun 2, 2009 2:12 PM

    I concur with Florio!

  3. shoeless says: Jun 2, 2009 2:19 PM

    More twists and turns and false claims and corrections than a Brett Favre retirement story. Who is doing all these “erroneous” reporting?

  4. shoeless says: Jun 2, 2009 2:21 PM

    Excuse me: Who is doing all THIS “erroneous” reporting?

  5. EaglesFan05 says: Jun 2, 2009 2:30 PM

    also, you can always suspend them for four games if the ruling is in the NFL’s favor. if the ruling is in favor of the two williams but they’ve already served their suspensions, you can’t give them those four games back.

  6. JonS says: Jun 2, 2009 2:49 PM

    Florio, IANAL, you are (which is why I ask), but if the Minnesota ruling holds, could the league ban the Williams’ from any other field outside of Minnesota? Could they enforce their ban that way if needed?

  7. junior9 says: Jun 2, 2009 3:10 PM

    um….can’t you repeat that stuff where you said all about the things

  8. TheHappyGoat says: Jun 2, 2009 3:13 PM

    I agree, the court *should* issue an injunction. That said, if the players think there is any chance they lose this case, they should just drop their claim, and take the suspension. The easiest part of the Vikes’ schedule is the very beginning. It would be better for them to miss the first four games, than the last four.

  9. apallday569 says: Jun 2, 2009 3:31 PM

    Both sides are gonna meet somewhere in the middle, mark my words! The Wall will be fined a 7 figure amount but will serve NO suspensions! The league has already hinted at that option. The NFL will end up caving on this besause they know they would lose the lawsuit by the Players Union and the players themselves.

  10. punchypete says: Jun 2, 2009 3:42 PM

    Florio. Please stick with the evaluation of soft tissue motor vehicle accidents and leave the questions of federal preemption to the big boys. Cia.

  11. Johnny2k says: Jun 2, 2009 4:14 PM

    A clear-headed compromise is called for in Minnesota. In order to clear two lengthy court cases, Pat and Kevin Williams will each serve two weeks this fall as Minnesota’s second U.S. Senator. During the same four weeks, Norm Coleman and Al Franken will be the starting DTs for team Swiss Miss. Everyone wins. Even Detroit.

  12. jimicos says: Jun 2, 2009 5:15 PM

    Half the reports on this site are erroneous. Clean up your own house first, Mike.

  13. PatFlorio-White says: Jun 2, 2009 5:24 PM

    If you can’t suspend juiced players in minnesota i say ban Wilf from having an NFL franchise in i minnesota…

  14. Jack-Sparrow says: Jun 2, 2009 5:36 PM

    Johnny2k says:
    June 2nd, 2009 at 4:14 pm
    A clear-headed compromise is called for in Minnesota. In order to clear two lengthy court cases, Pat and Kevin Williams will each serve two weeks this fall as Minnesota’s second U.S. Senator. During the same four weeks, Norm Coleman and Al Franken will be the starting DTs for team Swiss Miss. Everyone wins. Even Detroit.
    Great compromise and legally sound.

  15. apallday569 says: Jun 2, 2009 5:44 PM

    Johnny2k ,,,,Hilarious!

  16. Bob_Nelson says: Jun 2, 2009 6:08 PM

    Why did the federal judge ever grant the injunction in the first place if the case was weak and dismissed in federal court.
    The NFL is correct and the Minnesota courts will dimiss these crappy arguments from the substance abusing rule breakers.
    All the wasted time and legal expenses the league incurred plus the fact that these unrepentent steroid maskers refused to abide by the league’s discipline system warrants a suspension in excess of 4 games. 4 games for the steroid masking agent they were taking and 3 for conduct unbecoming to the league.
    Some players like these are so rotten that they would not learn if flogging were part of the NFL discipline system.

  17. empty13 says: Jun 2, 2009 7:25 PM

    without the williams wall, detroit beats minnesota. hands down.

  18. DCViking says: Jun 2, 2009 8:33 PM

    Oh no, Pat and Kevin Williams are “rotten”….not that, not “rotten”.
    Maybe we should just send them to their rooms without supper.
    Come to think of it, that might help with the weight loss……
    Argggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh – those “rotten” Williams boys

  19. TheGonz says: Jun 3, 2009 12:15 AM

    Idiot says:
    “All the wasted time and legal expenses the league incurred plus the fact that these unrepentent steroid maskers refused to abide by the league’s discipline system warrants a suspension in excess of 4 games. 4 games for the steroid masking agent they were taking and 3 for conduct unbecoming to the league.”
    ————
    Of course, you have absolutely no proof that either Pat or Kevin Williams has ever taken a steroid in their entire life. Neither does anyone else. . .which probably means they haven’t.
    But, hey, don’t let that stop you and your fellow Packer fans from being stupid. That would be like asking the sun not to shine or asking Aaron Rodgers not to throw an interception in the fourth quarter with a chance to tie or take the lead.

  20. jimicos says: Jun 3, 2009 9:22 AM

    TheGonz says:
    June 3rd, 2009 at 12:15 am
    Of course, you have absolutely no proof that either Pat or Kevin Williams has ever taken a steroid in their entire life. Neither does anyone else. . .which probably means they haven’t.
    But, hey, don’t let that stop you and your fellow Packer fans from being stupid. That would be like asking the sun not to shine or asking Aaron Rodgers not to throw an interception in the fourth quarter with a chance to tie or take the lead.
    ———————————-
    No one (with half a brain) is blaming the Williamses for taking steroids. They’re in trouble for taking banned substances, that’s it. They’re guilty of it. Yes, the league knew StarCaps was spiked but the league had no duty to report it. If they begin reporting each and every product they find spiked with banned substances, then expectations will change. Players will assume that any substance not reported as spiked by the league is clean and therefore OK to use. Then lawyers cry foul and sue when players get suspended for taking products not on the “spiked” list.
    That’s why the NFL doesn’t release the names of products they know to be spiked. Because then they’re on the hook to allow usage of all products not on the spiked list.
    The simple fact is that the Williams boys got caught with a banned substance in their bodies. That means 4 games. It’s pretty cut and dried. This whole Minnesota law angle will only serve to damage the NFL’s ability to govern its own players. No special treatment, even if you do live in Minnesota.

  21. Someone says: Jun 3, 2009 12:06 PM

    This place is full of idiots. Most smell like cheese.
    I wonder how you’d feel if you ate a poppy seed muffin and failed a drug test costing you 1/4 of your yearly pay. Would you get a Lawyer?

  22. MyPurpleHelmet says: Jun 3, 2009 5:58 PM

    jimicos is right.
    Once again Bob is our half a brain!

  23. MyPurpleHelmet says: Jun 3, 2009 6:26 PM

    Steroid use doesn’t really seem to be the question at hand, at least in the eyes of the league’s own doctor. So what you have is a hand full of players that used an over the counter substance that was probably used for it’s intended purpose. If the league intends to inforce these rules, then it should be their responsiblity to have a CLEAR means of notifying all players. Not some half-assed policy of sending a memo that players may or may not receive. Not a list of no endorsement substances. If the league intends to enforce these policies, it needs to be straight across the board, not just when they feel like it. There have been exceptions in the past. This pretty much makes there “strict” enforcement policy crap. Time for them to drop it and learn from their mistake. Get your policies in order, then enforce them.

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