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Ben Leber Understands The Power Of "We"

The most significant aspect of Brett Favre’s appearance on Joe Buck Artie Lange Live, in our view, was the use of the term “we” on a couple of occasions by the “retired” quarterback.
Unless he has sprouted a second head, “we” connotes a mental and emotional connection to the football team with which he has yet to sign a contract.
And the not-so-subtle slip wasn’t lost on at least one member of the Vikings.
“That really stuck in my mind because he’s already including himself,” starting linebacker Ben Leber told Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.  “It sounds to me like if [his arm] really is healed and he can throw he will be joining us sometime in the future. . . .
“He gave out more information than I thought he would.  With everything going on and all these reports out there and everybody checking credentials to see who has the right information.  He came out and said Coach [Brad] Childress wanted him at OTAs.  I think he was way more honest and that’s a good thing.”
Last month, another starting linebacker didn’t sound quite so enthused.
“[Favre has] retired a couple of times, so you wonder where his loyalties lie,” Chad Greenway said May 11.
Despite the disruption and distraction that Favre’s arrival would/will create for the team’s current quarterbacks, Sage Rosenfels and Tarvaris Jackson, Leber believes they realize the significance of adding Favre.
“I think it would be hard to put this out of your mind if you were Sage or Tarvaris, but if you take a step back you’re being compared and put up against a Hall of Famer that a lot of people still believe has a few years left in him,” Leber said.  “It’s not like bringing a lower-rated quarterback in all of a sudden and replacing these guys. . . .  This would be special circumstances and a special situation.”
Especially on those two days later this year when, for the first time in Favre’s career, throwing a ball that is caught by a member of the Green Bay Packers would be viewed as a blunder.

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15 Responses to “Ben Leber Understands The Power Of "We"”
  1. rew14478 says: Jun 17, 2009 9:22 AM

    So Favre should have referred to himself as a Viking in the third person? Or maybe “They would be good with a Favre under center.”. It’s his arm that’s banged up, not his head.

  2. We_Miss_You_Dan says: Jun 17, 2009 9:45 AM

    Favre’s antics are tiresome, but it sure is going to be fun to watch those two games.
    Packer fans must be split on Favre and his legacy, but I can’t see this ending well for Brett.

  3. bgman says: Jun 17, 2009 10:02 AM

    That’s why the Vikings won’t have much problem getting a fair contract that Favre will agree to, not matter how much Bus Cook would like to play hardball for his own egotistical reasons. Mentally, Favre has already joined the team and most likely is already studying the playbook.
    It’s no secret that Favre dispises organized offseason activities, so it was no miracle that his arm will be ready after they all ended. Don’t be surprised if a flight lands in Mississippi with Bernard berrian, Percy harvin, Siney Rice and/or Visanthe Shiancoe for Favre to throw to his new receivers to get his arm in shape and work on timing. It should be more beneficial than throwing to a bunch a high schhol guys.

  4. ProudestMonkey says: Jun 17, 2009 10:04 AM

    In the immoral (yes that was on purpose) words of one Eric Cartman….”Who’s we? You got a turd in your pocket?”

  5. BabyPuncher says: Jun 17, 2009 10:06 AM

    The only thing that bothers me is that he hinted that his arm was messed up before last season and he knew it. I think the media failed to pick up on his comment. Or chose not to to keep the good-ol boys image intact. Im glad he didnt go to the vikes then. Now that its gonna have time to heal fully after the surgery he will return to his pro-bowl form… I never though i would say this after watching favre kill us year after year, but I am excited and anxious to see Favre in Purple…

  6. par4life says: Jun 17, 2009 10:09 AM

    rew14478 says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 9:22 am
    So Favre should have referred to himself as a Viking in the third person? Or maybe “They would be good with a Favre under center.”. It’s his arm that’s banged up, not his head.
    The correct comment should have been “they” when referring to the Vikings. He isn’t part of the team YET.

  7. Garbo-Mann says: Jun 17, 2009 11:01 AM

    I can see it now…Donald Driver will be playing CB for the Pack (ala Troy Brown) when the Vikings come up on the slate.

  8. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jun 17, 2009 11:07 AM

    bgman says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 10:02 am
    Don’t be surprised if a flight lands in Mississippi with Bernard berrian, Percy harvin, Siney Rice and/or Visanthe Shiancoe for Favre to throw to his new receivers to get his arm in shape and work on timing. It should be more beneficial than throwing to a bunch a high schhol guys.
    ——————-
    It’s more likely that the plane will land in Mississippi with the aforementioned players on the plane and Favre says “where the hell are my receivers??” I’m better off throwing to high school receivers than this garbage. No matter how you slice it, this is the worst receiving core Favre has played with. Not a single 1000yd receiver in the bunch, Berrian is anything but a complete receiver like he’s used to, Rice is slow and sucks and Harvin is an unproven turd with an injury history. How many unpolished receivers that come from the spread offense make an impact their rookie season?

  9. JimmySmith says: Jun 17, 2009 11:39 AM

    WE will see how long this lasts, as in;
    we threw 3 INT’s today
    or
    we need to be more creative in our playcalling
    or
    we will be watching the playoffs at home again, that’s not exactly as we planned it.
    or
    opps, we got another coach fired again this year.

  10. Hype says: Jun 17, 2009 11:51 AM

    whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says:
    June 17th, 2009 at 11:07 am
    No matter how you slice it, this is the worst receiving core Favre has played with. Not a single 1000yd receiver in the bunch, Berrian is anything but a complete receiver like he’s used to, Rice is slow and sucks and Harvin is an unproven turd with an injury history.
    Not saying Favre is a do all for the Vikes organization, but Berrian has had some of the worst QB’s throwing the ball to him since he got in the league. I think Rice was hurt most of last year, so I find it hard to say he sucks until i see more from him. As with your Harvin comment….I cant argue, but i am not going to speculate on his performance till at least mid season.

  11. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jun 17, 2009 12:41 PM

    @Hype, I don’t care who his QB’s are, he’s just not a complete receiver no matter how you slice it. His QB in Chicago was good enough to take them to the Super Bowl and the big knock on him was that he dropped a lot of easy catches. Sound familiar? The only thing in Berrian’s skillset is to run go routes and hope for a busted coverage of which he got a few the past season. He’s got questionable hands and doesn’t go across the middle or get YAC by making people miss once he catches the ball. He’s the 4th highest paid receiver in the game and is one dimensional. At this point in his career, he is what he is. A #2 receiver masquerading as a #1.

  12. PackersNcheese says: Jun 17, 2009 1:06 PM

    I think when Favre referred to “we” he was talking about that turd in his pocket.

  13. fav-rah says: Jun 17, 2009 2:30 PM

    I have two points to make. They may be good points or they may be bad points. That’s for y’all to judge. Just remember in elementary school when a “1” was an “A” and a “5” was an “F”… I won’t take it personally if my overall rating is a “1” or a “5” or a “2.5”.
    Anyway, first let’s get a Koren Robinson-Favre reunion in Minnesota. Would love to see that.
    Second, can you imagine when Favre steps out on Lambeau and hears all of those boo birds on him? My guess is it will be 80/20 boos/cheers. I was at the shareholder’s meeting last summer and there were only a handful who joined in on the “Bring Brett Back” cheer (meanwhile the 3-headed monster of Ted Thompson, Mark Murphy (president), and Mike McCarthy all were cheered loudly after ‘leading’ the team to a 13-3 record – who actually led them is a toss-up as Favre mentioned numerous times throughout that season that he was surprised at the way the team was playing even though the year before he said the team had as much talent as any in the league and any he’s played with in the past).
    When he hears those boo birds, my guess is that after his one or two year stint with the Viqueens, he will not be coming back to G.B. for quite some time (unlike other former players who make regular visits during the season and even stand on the sidelines during games). Favre will not only probably not be back until Thompson is gone, but Murphy too (who flew down to MS last year to make the marketing contract offer), and likely McCarthy too. Who knows, Favre may not even want to come back until Aaron Rodgers is retired too! We’re looking at a good 10 years plus until that #4 jersey is retired at Lambeau, folks!

  14. Beer Cheese Soup says: Jun 17, 2009 4:56 PM

    whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says:
    His QB in Chicago was good enough to take them to the Super Bowl and the big knock on him was that he dropped a lot of easy catches.
    Whoa there. Rex Grossman may have PLAYED in a Super Bowl, but he certainly didn’t take his team there. The defense did, and he went along for the ride. See also: Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, McMahon, etc. The jury is still out on most, if not all, of the Viking receivers. Time (and a half-decent QB) will tell.

  15. Fan_of_Football says: Jun 17, 2009 5:40 PM

    whatthehellisgoingonoutthere,
    I disagree. The corps of receivers with the Jets were by far the worse. An over the hill Coles and a young and emerging Crothery who isn’t quite there yet.

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