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Do Politics And Pro Athletes Mix?

We should have sensed the potential for trouble when, on Monday, Jets kicker Jay Feely tweeted that he’d be appearing on FOX News with Sean Hannity.
Opening the floor to input from his followers, Jay said, “What should I ask Sean?
NFL Network’s Rich Eisen suggested this approach:  “Ask him if he has a conscience.
So we suppose it’s fitting that, on the same day we posted an item regarding Jim Brown’s criticism of athletes like Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan for keeping quiet about potentially polarizing issues in order to preserve their marketing potential, Feely has found himself in a mini-firestorm over the views he espoused on Hannity’s show.
Deadspin pounced on Feely’s appearance earlier today, prompting an observation from Bob Glauber of Newsday that Feely went “bonkers” in response on his Twitter page.  (We wouldn’t quite call it “bonkers,” in part because we prefer the term “bonkos.”)
Though pro athletes (just like anyone else) have a right to make their views known, they need to realize that fans and the media also have the right to react, especially in this new age of Internet interaction.  If pro athletes don’t want to deal with the reaction, then their only alternative is to keep their politics to themselves — regardless of what their politics are.  (We’re not suggesting that Feely didn’t want to deal with the reaction; we actually think he handled it all fairly well, despite our strong temptation to use the term “bonkos” again.)
The reality is that, because our country (apologies to our non-American readers) is and has been so deeply divided on many social and political questions, the expression of views on any of the various hot-button issues will prompt a reaction from those who hold a different opinion.
And one thing we’ve gradually learned over time is that nearly all of you prefer this site to be apolitical, since you follow sports as a diversion from the red state/blue state stuff.
So maybe that’s why Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan have focused when in public only on those things that the public pays them to do.  When we want a fix of politics, we each know where to find it.  When we want to get away from that crap (and, in many cases, it is indeed crap), we turn to sports.
Conservative commentator Laura Ingraham once wrote a book called Shut Up And Sing, aimed at the Springsteen and Dixie Chick crowd of liberal entertainers.  But the door swings both ways.  We pay attention to singers and actors and athletes because they entertain us, not because they preach to a certain choir.  If/when any of these folks wish to abandon the entertainment industry and become politicians, they should feel free to do so.
Until then, they need to realize that there’s nothing to be gained by using the spotlight as a soapbox.
Except for a smaller audience.

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108 Responses to “Do Politics And Pro Athletes Mix?”
  1. oxnard says: Jun 23, 2009 5:28 PM

    shut up and play

  2. redpiller says: Jun 23, 2009 5:30 PM

    Rich Eisen is even more of an awesome journalist now. Perfect question Rich!

  3. Winston Wolfe says: Jun 23, 2009 5:31 PM

    I would hope that Florio can practice what he preaches. So what is the over/under on the next time Florio is “singing” the socialist Obama praises????

  4. terrygmcgregor says: Jun 23, 2009 5:32 PM

    Sports is our diversion, leave your politics at home!

  5. hadaad says: Jun 23, 2009 5:33 PM

    I disagree. If a person has an opportunity to make the world a better place, they should feel free to do it.
    Just because their vision of a “better place” and mine are not the same does not mean that they shouldn’t do everything they can/will to improve it.
    From a business standpoint, maybe you’re right. Divisiveness probably leads to fewer fans. For some of these people, though, that doesn’t matter.

  6. phillyburdzfan says: Jun 23, 2009 5:34 PM

    So what you’re basically saying is, Obama should have made a stronger statement towards Iran?

  7. omegalh says: Jun 23, 2009 5:38 PM

    Shut up and cover football stories.

  8. hayward giablommi says: Jun 23, 2009 5:39 PM

    Do Politics And Pro Athletes Mix?
    No. I don’t care about what half these guys have to say in sports related interviews. Why do I want to hear their views on politics?
    Let’s face it, these guys aren’t exactly geniouses…and the sports world does not exactly coexist in the same reality that most of us live in.
    Thus, with a very few exceptions, I couldn’t care less about what the majority of these guys have to say about politics (especially someone who’s appearing on the Fox Propaganda Channel).

  9. Golden_Monkey says: Jun 23, 2009 5:39 PM

    NO! I don’t care what athletes or celebs think about politics or social issues. They’re just people like us except with more money. How does having money qualify you to speak out about politics or social issues? It doesn’t.
    Just let them do their jobs entertaining us.

  10. James M. Holmes says: Jun 23, 2009 5:41 PM

    Obama has it right on Iran… after Iraq and basically turning the whole world against us, these NeoCon tools like Hannity should STFU! They have no credibility…
    …as for Feely… Well, it is his right to support the crazy rightwing nuts, but as a Jet fan, it is my right to hope he gets cut in training camp! NeoCons are traitors and have done more damage to teh USA in teh last 8 years than any terrorist could have done!
    P.S. Rich Eisen rocks!

  11. CKL says: Jun 23, 2009 5:44 PM

    Tony Dungy (while actively coaching) and Philip Rivers both made it pretty clear in a public forum that they were against gay marriage. No one is criticizing/criticized them. I agree that people in the public eye are wiser not to say anything politically polarizing publicly. The thing with players on team sports doing this is that it could possibly affect relationships with teammates also. I think it’s probably a wise decision to leave that specific political type of stuff alone until after retirement.

  12. PackAttack says: Jun 23, 2009 5:46 PM

    I agree with Ingraham. If I’m coughing up enough dough to buy a used Vega in 1974 to see Springsteen, he can keep his liberal views to himself. If he’s on Letterman and Dave asks him who he supports, fine, talk away. Same thing with Feely. Unless he has a red, white and blue elephant sticker on his helmet, it’s all good. Feely was great by the way, I saw the show. Eisen’s an idiot. As a Jew, how is that liberal approach to Israel sitting with you these days?

  13. drew says: Jun 23, 2009 5:46 PM

    With more and more things like this, I’m starting to fear tha PFT and my internet browser won’t mix.

  14. PackAttack says: Jun 23, 2009 5:47 PM

    By the way, I dont think Tiger was “quiet” during his speech on inauguration day. It was perfectly clear where his head and heart are at.

  15. VBG says: Jun 23, 2009 5:47 PM

    Because of Rich Eisen I rarely ever watch NFL Network anymore. The guy is a fool and a toad and is always making a fool out of himself by trying to be “with it” talking about his “kicks” or other “with it” things.
    Now with this comment I’ll watch the toad even less.
    NFL Network, fire Rich Eisen and you’ll grow your audience.

  16. dcowboy7 says: Jun 23, 2009 5:49 PM

    He wouldve went on msnbc but only 3 people watch.

  17. Regul8r says: Jun 23, 2009 5:52 PM

    You are bang on Winston. I actually stopped reading PFT for a while last fall becaue of Florio’s obvious political leanings & subtle (not) remarks. Florio, you are obviously far from a pro athlete so technically you aren’t a hypocrite with this post but trust me buddy, you have a good thing going here & no one wants to hear you opine on anything but NFL football.
    BTW this is the same reason that douche-bag Keith Olbermann now sits at the kids table for his 4 minutes of brilliant insight on Sunday nights. Olbermann is a medicore sportscaster from an Aggie school who pretends to be an intelectual journalist. Good night & good luck Keith.

  18. centurion43 says: Jun 23, 2009 5:54 PM

    Well Winston Wolfe, lets hope that Obamas “Socalist” Crap as you call it and Florio support for it keeps your uneducated opinions off the site! Wouldn’t that make us all winners.

  19. James M. Holmes says: Jun 23, 2009 5:54 PM

    NeoCons just don’t get it do they? They have ruined everything in this country, done more damage to the USA than any terrorist ever could do and then they think we should still listen to them as we continue to vote them out of office?
    Sorry morons, but you have no credibility anymore… Republicans are like drunken frat boys who set a house on fire and then complain that the firefighters are using too much water!
    Jay Feely… I hope you get cut in training camp! Stick to kicking a ball through the endzone… you are apparently too stupid to do anything else…
    P.S. Rich Eisen rocks!

  20. osprey says: Jun 23, 2009 5:56 PM

    Feely reminds me of Kenny Powers when he said on his motivational tape, “Some people accuse me of being a xenaphobe. I just think americans are better than everybody else. That used to be called patriotism.”

  21. Hardrada says: Jun 23, 2009 5:56 PM

    Ahh yes, Hannity.
    Aping urbanity,
    Oozing with vanity,
    Plump as a manatee,
    Faking humanity,
    Journalistic calamity,
    Intellectual inanity,
    Fox News insanity,
    You’re a profanity,
    Hannity.

  22. desides says: Jun 23, 2009 6:05 PM

    I really used to like Rich Eisen.

  23. mike hunt says: Jun 23, 2009 6:05 PM

    I don’t mind as long as the athlete is an intelligent person. Jay Feeley is obviously well spoken and intelligent. Dudes like Pacman Jones on the other hand, I can’t say I want their opinions on politics. Actually, I wouldn’t want his opinion on anything. Anyways, if even the biggest bed wetting liberals in the world, such as Bill Maher are starting to take issue with a lot of the things that are going on..Then that’s saying something. The prob with voting in america is 90 percent of the people that are voting, know dick about politics

  24. Treez says: Jun 23, 2009 6:08 PM

    Obama_PresidentialSeal_SponsoredByPepsi.gif

  25. Tempus fugit says: Jun 23, 2009 6:15 PM

    Wow- this is loosely tied to football, so I guess you have to report it right?
    And remember this, the next time you tell someone who critizes you in a comment and you tell them to scroll past:
    “Though pro athletes (just like anyone else) have a right to make their views known, they need to realize that fans and the media also have the right to react…”
    Any person should stand up for what the believe in.

  26. DJSlyBri says: Jun 23, 2009 6:15 PM

    And how exactly can Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan make the world a better place? And besides, we already have enough idiotic liberals running around, we don’t need two more of them.

  27. Trey says: Jun 23, 2009 6:15 PM

    By Eisens comment he must be a liberal. My question does he have a conscience since he wants permit choice over human dignity. What vacuous statement by Eisen.

  28. JakeDSnake says: Jun 23, 2009 6:21 PM

    Perhaps you should clarify your opening line Florio: should your Spidey senses have been tingling merely because it was an NFL athlete and ANY political commentator, or were you saying you should have sensed it because of who the commentator was? As for the employee of the NFL’s network who made his standings perfectly clear with his insult, what of him? Free pass because it’s his job to make political commentary? So long as you post about ALL NFL player and political commentator combos, and give space without comment to the insults of the opposing view, then you will be fine – otherwise you just jumped into that big pile poo you were trying to point out to everyone else.

  29. chapnasty says: Jun 23, 2009 6:24 PM

    Maybe something more importantly here is that maybe sports commentators should leave their opinions on politics at the door. They are clearly not experts on the matter and should shut their mouths. Look at the idiot Olberman, he is a moron and has the least watched TV show in his time slot however no one can deny that he was great on Sportscenter. Maybe Eisen needs a wake up and have someone smack some sense into him because he is an expert on one thing and one thing only, sports.

  30. MJA says: Jun 23, 2009 6:36 PM

    The problem is that now this country, in terms of politics, has gone to both extremes. You have a large amount of Democrats who will never agree with anything a Republican says and vice versa, regardless if the other sides idea’s are actually intelligent.
    Now if you try to say that you support no party and tend to lean towards the middle, you are called a flip flopper who can’t make up your mind. Just look at the comments above me about Obama being a socialist and then look at the people who dog Fox News for being slanted right (As if MSNBC is not slanted left, though I’ll give you that Fox News “commentators” are more arrogant and angry).
    I’m 18 years old and this is already reaching a climax, how soon will it be before a Democrat kills a Republican or vice versa? Could all this tension between parties eventually lead to a politician being assassinated simply because of his party affiliation?
    More people need to realize that the world is not black and white, there are shades of grey in everything.

  31. BaltimoreSports says: Jun 23, 2009 6:41 PM

    Right wing nuts will be all over this. Hope Feely is not a liberal…that crazy, hypocritical coward Hannity would hate that.

  32. motife says: Jun 23, 2009 6:46 PM

    I agree that Florio should practice what he preaches. He’s left his leftist droppings on this website many times. It’s ok to be political if you’re a Democrat, apparently. But not if you’re a Republican.

  33. Paul E says: Jun 23, 2009 6:48 PM

    The problem with the “shut up and play” attitude is that professional and college sports in the U.S. are unavoidably political. Games start with the national anthem–that’s political. Corporatism is accepted in endless ways (stadium names, the names of bowl games, individual sponsorships, television ads)–that’s political. Stadiums are built with taxpayer dollars–that’s obviously political. Homosexuality is taboo–that’s political. And while professional football avoids this because of its national television contracts, if you live in a market where your hometown team is broadcast on the local Foxsports affiliate, you are bombarded by ads to watch or to listen to Hannity and Limbaugh–that’s political. When an athlete decides to open his or her mouth on some political matter, it should simply remind us of what is always already all around us when we watch a game.

  34. motife says: Jun 23, 2009 6:48 PM

    Rich Eisen is an idiot. Buzz cut socialist.

  35. tureal says: Jun 23, 2009 6:51 PM

    Lets be serious here! Just like football players, our president is GQ!

  36. JaredAllen69 says: Jun 23, 2009 6:52 PM

    Maybe athletes and entertainers shouldn’t give their political opinions, but then again maybe Florio shouldn’t either. I remember Florio was all for Obama being elected president. That’s a view I don’t share.

  37. sfitz76 says: Jun 23, 2009 6:54 PM

    People like Jim Brown need to realize that this isn’t 1964 anymore. Does he even know that we have a black President? What does he expect Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan to do?

  38. Rasputin says: Jun 23, 2009 6:55 PM

    Or maybe Jordan and Woods feel that who and what they vote for is their own damn business. Maybe they quietly donate to charities instead. Who knows?
    More importantly: who cares?
    The time for politics is *after* you retire from sports. And before you go senile.

  39. Vox Veritas says: Jun 23, 2009 7:01 PM

    Maybe Rich Eisen would like to ask the same of Obama, assuming that Obama would pre-approve the question like he does with the rest of the media that he exposes himself to.
    Journalism is dead. That lying, twisted old bastard Dan Rather put the final nail in the coffin with his forged documents.

  40. Alpheratz says: Jun 23, 2009 7:03 PM

    I would like to hear Eisen explain exactly what he means by that. Makes no sense.

  41. HR_VA D-BAG says: Jun 23, 2009 7:07 PM

    Feely and Eisen, cut the crap, leave the politics at home. Sports and sites like this are diversions and opportunities to avoid politics. Are ten minutes of sports fun on the web too much to ask for? WTF?

  42. Matt Hoover says: Jun 23, 2009 7:18 PM

    Any football player….especially those under the age of 25, should probably not talk about politics. For those of you, like myself, who know how little work these primadonnas have to do to make it through college to the NFL, you understand how dumb these guys usually are.
    However, in Feely’s case, I’m glad he RESPECTFULLY expressed his opinion and used his fame as a forum to actively persuade society to improve. Had it been Chad Ochocinco talking RESPECTFULLY about why he thinks America is moving in the right direction and his love for Obama, I’d congratulate him too.
    Taking a look back at these comments, it’s pretty apparent which side of the aisle does things respectfully and which one doesn’t. That’s why the world would be better off if the Left quietly went away instead of furthering damaging everything in our world.

  43. JoaquinFenix says: Jun 23, 2009 7:28 PM

    “If you’re not a liberal when you’re 20, you have no heart. If
    you’re not a conservative when you’re 40, you have no head.”
    - Winston Churchill
    Florio, ask your comrade-in-arms whether he has a brain.

  44. Rutgersfan says: Jun 23, 2009 7:41 PM

    Has Hannity been waterboarded yet?
    When you need to go to an NFL kicker to support your idiocy, I’d say you are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Eisen’s question is dead on. Hannity is a human excrement.

  45. GreeneBlitz says: Jun 23, 2009 7:41 PM

    Coming from a liberal, that professes his idiotic political views way too much on a professional football blog of all places.

  46. NFLPFT2007 says: Jun 23, 2009 7:43 PM

    Mike Florio is your typical member of the liberal media. He attacked Don Imus and basically wanted him executed at high noon, despite Mr Imus’ repeated apologies. I don’t recall Mr Florio calling out David Letterman two weeks ago for suggesting that Sarah Palin’s daughter be raped by A-Rod.
    Mr Florio, you will fit in well at NBC with your brother in crime – Keith Olbermann…….two peas in a liberal pod.

  47. tj.52 says: Jun 23, 2009 7:53 PM

    Mike Florio says: “the expression of views on any of the various hot-button issues will prompt a reaction from those who hold a different opinion.”
    —————————————————————————————–
    I disagree.
    Certain issues are made to be “hot button” by an ignorant mass spewing party dialog and whatever-side-of-the-aisle pre-written rhetoric they can cram into their overcrowded craniums in a desperate attempt to add meaning and/or righteousness to their self loathed existence.
    I have personally and foolishly attempted to have civil conversations with countless members of the “reactive” crowd that you are refering to (left and right). As soon as any facts or intelligent, sensible dialog are offered in conversation they are met with an ignorant, despicable eruption of non relevant catch phrases and presumed half truthes.
    Any jackass can go around calling Obama a socialist, Bush a warmonger, etc., but 90% of them couldn’t give you one factual account to back up their accusation. And it’s not “standing up for what you believe in” when you spout off at random on subjects you have a fleeting knowledge of at best. It’s idiocy:
    id·i·o·cy [íddee əssee] n
    1. a term for an extremely unintelligent or thoughtless act
    I think everybody should just stfu unless they are prepared to hold a civil, intelligent conversation about the issues.
    (in regards to politics only, for football it is and always should be a moron filled jackass frenzy)

  48. Real Football Fan says: Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM

    If you don’t want entertainers to talk about politics, you’d better tell the political talking heads to be quiet. Believe me, The dollar is the bottom line with those people, while they tell the “working” people of the atrocities that they personally won’t face because they’re getting their pockets lined with more money to rile the crowd up for their side. It’s just as phoney as the BSPN debates, but scarier because it’s dealing with our country. Anyone that needs another person to tell them how to interpret the news is a moron, whether you get the MSN or the Fox News perspective.
    I’ll never forget after the 2004 election, after all the name calling and disrespect…GWB, John kerry, and Bill Clinton were all hanging out in Arkansas for the opening of clinton’s library. Stop dancing for these fools and think for yourself. Some of President Obama’s ideas are good, some are bad; however, make those decisions based on the facts, not what somebody tells you. This country is far too messed up to continue the impossible discord.

  49. PM08 says: Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM

    This entire story is just more of the double standard today’s liberal media has created. If Feely went on any MSNBC show no one would even hear about and there definitely would not be an entire story about it here on PFT. But since he dared to speak against the Chosen One, florio and the other silly libs try to demonize him and make a story out of it.

  50. empty13 says: Jun 23, 2009 8:04 PM

    eisen is a turd too, because you can bet he likes the sustaining israel-first foreign policy here. and while i cant agree with osamabama on much if anything, israel is the entangling alliance to end all entangling alliances, not that he will ever do diddley about it.
    george washington said something about entangling alliances, remember. but i am sure a lot of people dismiss him as just another dead white guy or “raccciiiisssssstttttt pig”. he was the real deal.
    and while iran is just another foreign country we meddled in in the past… the only reason there are so many post election protests there is that we are being forced to pay for them to happen. must build eretz israel so they feel safe. doesnt matter how many of yall have to die to make them safe.
    we have oil here. under ground. off the coasts. drill here. drill now. but i dont expect enviro tool osamabama to do that either.

  51. bishop23 says: Jun 23, 2009 8:07 PM

    random thoughts…did anybody see that celebrity ad during the election “Don’t Vote”..i thought that was the most obnoxious thing ever..just bc obama got elected doesnt mean racism doesnt exist that reminds me of the office episode when stanley passed out and michael scott said “Obama was elected racism is over”..Bill Bradley ran for president kevin johnson is mayor of sacramento

  52. ivekilledpeople says: Jun 23, 2009 8:08 PM

    So I see it didnt take long for you to start spouting the NBC ideology. Hey Rich Eisen where is your conscience when thousands of babies are murdered by their whore moms because of you and others like you support of abortion?

  53. Staff Sergeant Bandazewski says: Jun 23, 2009 8:10 PM

    Sean Hannity is a crutch. Ive grown tired of us his promotion of political discord in order to turn a profit for himself under his guise of fairness and conservative value blabber. And I am glad on the surface he supports my fellow servicemen and I because i guess its like a Fox news mandate in order to make themselves seem like the only patriotic news branch in the free world but i will never forget hearing him asked a few years ago if he would send his children to fight in Iraq and he responded with ” I would want to go in their place” followed by more dodging and side stepping.
    Mr Hannity had his chance to serve and like 99 % of the other convenient clowns espousing this conservative doctrine and how we must fight for freedom and democracy, they themselves were too much of a pussy to actually do it when they were of age so now they hide behind the curtain of claiming they would want to go in their childrens place if they were every asked to serve. Spare me.

  54. ivekilledpeople says: Jun 23, 2009 8:11 PM

    Hey Florio, Practice what you preach and dont piss off half the country.

  55. indikid24 says: Jun 23, 2009 8:22 PM

    MJA,
    I LOVE YOU. What you said is truer than truth telling it’s own story. There is no black and white nowadays. You are either White or black. You’re scolded and dubbed unresponsible if you are anywhere between White or black. It’s a world of Democrats vs. Republicans and the rest of the nation needs to move over apparently. It won’t be long until we start hate crimes against people of other beliefs. People need to understand other peoples views and respect their views. Even as a democrat i can say i fully respect the republican view and anyone in between. I just don’t want to see Obama bein gassasinated because he’s a “dumb liberal” or Mccain being gunned down because he’s a “twisted conservative” We’re on this earth together, and we need to stop criticizng and tearing down other people’s beliefs (politically anyway) and accept everyone’s views.
    GO COLTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  56. 44-6-andthenRomofainted says: Jun 23, 2009 8:22 PM

    Did you know that all of the top ten states in college educated citizens voted for Obama? On the flip side, all of the top ten states in adults who can’t read went for McCain.

  57. KP Riordan says: Jun 23, 2009 8:24 PM

    Guess it’s no surprise a loser lib signs with NBC, you can go down with their sinking ratings. Once all of Amertica wakes up from this national nightmare called Obama, hopefully we’ll have something left of this country.

  58. roughingtheholder says: Jun 23, 2009 8:27 PM

    Rush Limbaugh has a drug problem.

  59. andyreid says: Jun 23, 2009 8:32 PM

    Bill O’Reilly sexually assaulted a co-worker.

  60. hamburglar says: Jun 23, 2009 8:39 PM

    Necks are awful red around these parts.

  61. unit416 says: Jun 23, 2009 8:48 PM

    That’s the thing with liberals… they claim to be the party that is inclusive and accepting of people and their ideas. In reality they demand conformity and call people bigots if they don’t conform to their view of the world. Hannity just gives the liberals someone to be outraged about because their lives are meaningless without outrage.
    Two things I want to know from Comrade Florio… how many Che Guevara t-shirts do you own and in QBF do the athletes have to wait for treatment due to socialized health care?

  62. Hardrada says: Jun 23, 2009 9:15 PM

    “We do not simply regard a man who does not participate in the city’s life as one who just minds his own business, but rather as one who has no business here at all.”
    - Pericles of Athens

  63. hamburglar says: Jun 23, 2009 9:18 PM

    The war is over. The Union Army won. Get over it.

  64. 44-6-andthenRomofainted says: Jun 23, 2009 9:21 PM

    Its not really “half the country”. Obama won in a landslide. Only the most assbackwards of states voted for McCain.

  65. hayward giablommi says: Jun 23, 2009 9:53 PM

    @ KP Riordan
    Hate to break it to you, KP, but people like YOU are the problem. As far as I’m concerned, the jury is still our on Obama…but if you can make that comment with a straight face, then I’m guessing you were on a deserted island or hibernating for the last eight years.
    You know, when our 43rd President did everything in his power, and even beyond, to destroy our Constitutional rights, terrorizing the American people with false threats of terrorism, furthering the Big Brother surveillance society, all the while bankrupting the country?
    To quote the notorious Nazi Hermann Goering
    “Naturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. …Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

  66. kevko says: Jun 23, 2009 9:53 PM

    Singers and actors should shut up about their political beliefs. Only Disk Jockeys and Place Kickers should opine on politics.

  67. SpartaChris says: Jun 23, 2009 10:05 PM

    LOL at the Fox News haters. Serious question- How will democrats stand up to terrorists when they can’t even face Fox News?
    I’d think many of you on here would be thanking us Republicans. We work hard so you won’t have to.

  68. Rhodium Heart says: Jun 23, 2009 10:09 PM

    It’s telling that Florio is critical of Jay Feely for tacking right, while being non-critical — maybe even supportive — of NFL Network employee Rich Eisen tacking hard left. Either criticize both for mixing politics and sports, or criticize neither. By singling out Feely for criticism, and giving Eisen a free pass, you’re engaging in the same sort of partisan crapfest you pretend to criticize.
    Either you accept the idea that sports are a nice pleasant diversion from the world of partisan politics, or you’re a partisan hack that thinks it’s OK to hack away as long as it’s for your side. There are enough amateur political hack analyst-commentators on the net. There are not nearly enough folks trafficking in pro football rumor-mongering. Stick with the under-served market, please.

  69. 4G63 says: Jun 23, 2009 10:49 PM

    $1 Trillion in 100 days!! Where do I sign up?

  70. Marvin Lewis says: Jun 23, 2009 11:15 PM

    I guess having an ultra-liberal left wing pundit who thinks Denver is west of the Rockies on Football night in America isn’t mixing politics and the NFL? Silly me, it only matters when it is a conservative player on a conservative show.
    P.S. Florio, when are we going to start seeing more Obama advertisements again?

  71. maddogwhite says: Jun 23, 2009 11:41 PM

    The stimulus is a flop. The President is a charlatain. Eisen aka Mr. Potato Head probably wants to make sure he still gets invited to his left-wing parties (although he still remains a C-list celebrity) and Keith Olbermann still keeps his job on NBC despite his ratings nose dive. Florio, you were all for Rooney giving Obama his endorsement (in exchange for the ambassadorship) but the truth is most of Steeler Nation did not vote for Obama. And the libs on this board who think that Obama won in a landslide — wait till the 2010 midterms after this economic collapse. You’ll be singing a different turn.

  72. Winston Wolfe says: Jun 23, 2009 11:43 PM

    USSA – United Socialist States of America (not to be confused with the USSR)
    Why do you bedwetting Pinko Commie Left Wing Liberals want to turn the good ole USA in to another Europe? Why don’t you just move there? You can get some of that worst in the world “Social Medicine” over there. Since you hate America, everything it stands for and the good old American work ethic you must simply be to lazy to consider the move option. Won’t we all be glad when traing camps start in another 5-6 weeks?

  73. bandit says: Jun 23, 2009 11:46 PM

    Comrade Florio gets upset about a kicker who nobody’s heard of going on a talk show? Don’t make Florio angry. Leftist brownshirts attack!

  74. centurion43 says: Jun 23, 2009 11:51 PM

    Well when one you Out of date Republican morons start a website that lots of people want to read, you can put your Osama Obamas and Sarah Palin for President in there as much as you want. Lucky for me Florio is on my side and he happens to have a good web site sorry. I hear Fox has slanted News and a Sports station, check it out.

  75. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 12:32 AM

    Great line by Rich Eisen, he’s one of the better anchors on TV, and the best on NFLN.
    Liberals are generally open to consider differing opinions and ideas, wheras Conservatives will generally react with hatred, disgust and violence when confronted with change or being forced to adapt to a new environment/new way of thinking.
    I think this is revealed on this site. Some people are fine with Feely espousing his views…and some people think Obama is a Muslim who has become the first Facist Socialist in the history of the world.

  76. SpartaChris says: Jun 24, 2009 12:38 AM

    hayward giablommi says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
    You know, when our 43rd President did everything in his power, and even beyond, to destroy our Constitutional rights, terrorizing the American people with false threats of terrorism, furthering the Big Brother surveillance society, all the while bankrupting the country?

    False claims of terrorism? Really? Planes flying into the twin towers wasn’t proof enough that America is under attack?
    It’s funny.. We had no problems with North Korea or Iran when “W” was President. Now that your royal messiah is leading our once great nation, we’re receiving threats of missiles being launched at Hawaii and Iran is on the verge of total civil meltdown.
    As for bankrupting the country, you should really be blaming your other saviour, Bill Clinton. He started this mess. President Bush actually came out in 2003 and said something needed to be done or else we’d be in the mess we’re in now.
    But of course, I’d hate to let something like facts get in the way of a good story.

  77. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 12:42 AM

    Empty13:
    I think you’ll find a lot of libs care more about social justice than Israel, but it’s an unfortunate fact that BOTH sides of the aisle are deeply invested in propping up a Jewish state, at first because of holocaust guilt but now for no discernible reason.
    It’s sad, really. If someone was railing on the defense of Mexico, or Ecuador, nobody would care. Why is that?

  78. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 12:45 AM

    “Hey Rich Eisen where is your conscience when thousands of babies are murdered by their whore moms because of you and others like you support of abortion?”
    …Now who was it that just said that Liberals speak with hate and Conservatives are respectful? Case in point, Libs win.

  79. SpartaChris says: Jun 24, 2009 12:46 AM

    Something else I don’t get- Why is it anyone who criticizes Obama is a red neck? Why can’t it be that some people really think he’s way off base with his policies and ideologies? Or is it because you can’t argue based on fact and logic you have to resort to juvenile name calling?

  80. Vox Veritas says: Jun 24, 2009 12:48 AM

    “Did you know that all of the top ten states in college educated citizens voted for Obama? On the flip side, all of the top ten states in adults who can’t read went for McCain. ”
    You know, you’ve said that exact same thing maybe a dozen times on PFT, and it’s still not making you look any smarter. There hasn’t been a comprehensive and credible national study on adult literacy since 2003, but thanks for playing. Johnny, tell him what he’s won.

  81. Vox Veritas says: Jun 24, 2009 12:52 AM

    “roughingtheholder” = “andyreid” = “hamburgler”
    There’s can’t be three people that are THAT stupid on PFT.
    # roughingtheholder says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 8:27 pm
    Rush Limbaugh has a drug problem.
    # andyreid says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 8:32 pm
    Bill O’Reilly sexually assaulted a co-worker.
    # hamburglar says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
    Necks are awful red around these parts.

  82. Vox Veritas says: Jun 24, 2009 1:02 AM

    “Its not really “half the country”. Obama won in a landslide.”
    He got 52.9% of the vote, you incredible jackass, and I’m pretty sure that at least 3% have changed their minds by now, barely eight months later.

  83. Vox Veritas says: Jun 24, 2009 1:20 AM

    “You know, when our 43rd President did everything in his power, and even beyond, to destroy our Constitutional rights, terrorizing the American people with false threats of terrorism, furthering the Big Brother surveillance society, all the while bankrupting the country?”
    ARE YOU SHITTING ME?
    Holy shit, Obama’s created more debt than all presidents before him combined! I don’t know if you’ve been paying attention but the man is commandeering privately owned companies and has terrorized the American public with his “we must pass this legislation now or unemployment will go above 8%” bullshit. And now he’s doing it with regards to the insurance industry! The jury’s still out on Obama? What are you drinking? Come on man, even the dumbass ultra-liberal Europeans are waking up because they’ve seen this before, don’t be the last guy off the short bus.

  84. mofo7 says: Jun 24, 2009 1:45 AM

    The few times political comment threads have exploded here on PFT remind me of how only a small percentage of people are responsible for the vast majority of litigation.
    The vociferous 20 percenters.

  85. Mike my Ditka says: Jun 24, 2009 3:45 AM

    Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods stay silent because they are enormously popular and would risk millions of dollars in endorsements if they became partisan.
    So you are comparing the two most successful athletes of the last 20 years with Jay Feely?

  86. mrmagoo says: Jun 24, 2009 7:00 AM

    To my ‘conservative’ friends:
    The largest deficits and surpluses
    Reagan 200 billion deficit
    First Bush 300 billion deficit
    Clinton 200 billion SURPLUS
    Bush Jr over 400 billion deficit
    I’m sure you think it’s not true because Fox News or Rush didn’t say it. But look it up- it’s true.
    What conservatives fail to understand is that you are the extremist who refuse to acknowledge reality. I’m okay with you being mad or not liking the way things are going right now. Lord knows, I was agonized watching the country being driven into the ground.
    Vox, you trying to call someone out on multiple screen names is priceless. One of the reasons I can’t respect you is that you confuse attempting to win an argument with finding the truth of a matter. The ends justify the means only when you have no integrity.

  87. Detroiter says: Jun 24, 2009 7:17 AM

    >To my ‘conservative’ friends:
    >The largest deficits and surpluses
    >Reagan 200 billion deficit
    >First Bush 300 billion deficit
    >Clinton 200 billion SURPLUS
    >Bush Jr over 400 billion deficit
    Obama in the MONTH OF MAY ALONE: $189.7 billion (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31209344/)

  88. stonethrower says: Jun 24, 2009 8:59 AM

    Every citizen has the right and the obligation to be engaged in the political process. Speaking from a celebrity status does not make their opinions more or less important than any other average citizen.
    If someone places them on as pedestal, but then cannot bear to listen to their political opinions, then it is the fault of those that give WAAAAAYYY too much credit to someone because they can score a TD or sing a song.
    They’re people…not Gods. Bring them all back down to earth, but do not take away their right to an opinion.

  89. stonethrower says: Jun 24, 2009 9:10 AM

    Tempus fugit says:
    June 23rd, 2009 at 6:15 pm
    “Wow- this is loosely tied to football, so I guess you have to report it right? ”
    Politics are deeply ingrained in the NFL and all sports for that matter.
    How do you think they get those billion dollar golden palaces to play in 10 days out of 365? Don’t kid yourself, there’s plenty of the ol’ backscratching going on, in every major city in the country. and the taxpayer (as usual) gets to scratch every back, while receiving very very little in return, except the right to play thousand$$ for seat rental and laundry.

  90. F00kFl0ri0 says: Jun 24, 2009 9:13 AM

    To those claiming the current President exploded our national debt are very disingenuous. The current President isn’t playing with the national budget like the previous administration. This administration has tied in the two wars into the budget, unlike the previous administration who left the cost of the wars and their funding out of their books to keep the American public in the dark to how much was being spent. That’s over a trillion dollars right there, but I guess Iraq is the current President’s plan for his “socialist” agenda right? Oh by the way, I’m a current active duty NCO, before someone goes and calls me a pansy or something for stating the truth……. Grow up, read other points of view, and think for yourselves….. I’d ask Hannity if he’s ready to be waterboarded yet, though…… After all it’s for a charity to help us out….. And I hear he’s all for the troops…..

  91. unit416 says: Jun 24, 2009 10:05 AM

    When does this site change it’s name officially to MSPFT?

  92. krisj51 says: Jun 24, 2009 11:04 AM

    So let me get this straight; Yesterday, Jim Brown was correct for critisizing 2 of the worlds greatest athletes for not speaking out on issues of social justice. At the very least, it was expressed in the article that pft agrees with brown (for the most part). Today, you go and claim the opposite after a player expresses conservative views on fox news. I think its plain to see the NBC influence on this site has already taken it down a long journey on the road to irrelevance. Very dissapointing. Stay consistent, or better yet, dont talk about politics at all. Like you wrote in your own article; we all come here to escape the crap that goes on in politics. Not to read angry comments from people who haven’t spent even 10 minutes listening to the people they critisize, or researching the political issues they would kill for. Just drop the politics, we get it, You are a democrat, good for you most the people in the media are. Rich eissen hates hannity, good for him. half his audience now like him more, half like him less. it’s irrelevant. I’d rather read about what brett farve is contemplating for breakfeast than hear the political views of people like Rich Eissen, Jay Feeley, Michael Jordan, Sean Hannity, Jim Brown, or Mike Florio. no offense intended. you cwertainly have a right to run your webpage however you want. thats just how I feel.

  93. kongzilla says: Jun 24, 2009 11:42 AM

    F00kFl0ri0 says:
    F00kFl0ri0 says:
    June 24th, 2009 at 9:13 am
    “To those claiming the current President exploded our national debt are very disingenuous. The current President isn’t playing with the national budget like the previous administration.”
    I guess MSNBC didn’t tell you that the Dems were in charge of the budget the last 2 years of the Bush admin. So were they lying too? That big budget bill Pres. Obama signed? The Dems held onto it until Bush was out of office. These are facts, but hey that’s the info you miss out on from NBC affiliates.

  94. SpartaChris says: Jun 24, 2009 12:57 PM

    F00kFl0ri0 says:
    June 24th, 2009 at 9:13 am
    To those claiming the current President exploded our national debt are very disingenuous. The current President isn’t playing with the national budget like the previous administration. This administration has tied in the two wars into the budget, unlike the previous administration who left the cost of the wars and their funding out of their books to keep the American public in the dark to how much was being spent. That’s over a trillion dollars right there, but I guess Iraq is the current President’s plan for his “socialist” agenda right? Oh by the way, I’m a current active duty NCO, before someone goes and calls me a pansy or something for stating the truth……. Grow up, read other points of view, and think for yourselves….. I’d ask Hannity if he’s ready to be waterboarded yet, though…… After all it’s for a charity to help us out….. And I hear he’s all for the troops…..

    You can blame Bush all you want, but Democrats didn’t exactly oppose the practice. They too had the power to do something, but didn’t, which makes them equally to blame.

  95. SpartaChris says: Jun 24, 2009 1:40 PM

    @F00kFl0ri0 and Mr.Magoo
    The total cost of both wars combined since 2001 is roughly $872B. I know, a billion here, a billion there…
    That breaks down to $109B per year average.
    Now take a look at this: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_WrgfGmjCh2g/SjNPD9NfZKI/AAAAAAAAASk/78y84vas7VA/s1600-h/bush+vs.+obama+deficit.jpg
    That’s a graph comparing Bush’s actual deficit to the projected deficit of both the Obama administration and the Congressional Budget Office.
    If you added $109B each year to Bush’s deficit, it’s still much less by an overwhelmingly huge margin than the budget deficit projected by both the Obama administration and the CBO.
    So semantics aside, in terms of actual dollars, Obama has already outspent Bush by a very large margin. And it’s only going to get worse.

  96. drhanniballector says: Jun 24, 2009 1:49 PM

    Jimmy Rollins openly campaigned for Obama, yet no one trashed him for doing so. This notion that it’s a nationwide thing about reacting to athletes going political isn’t true; the truth is it’s actually a liberal spastic reaction to anything not in line with their gestapo. In football Joe Paterno’s kid who is a coach and also one of the Steeler’s Rooneys openingly endorsed Obama with no hysterical response as rebuttle. You’re wrong there Florio, it’s actually a liberal response to trash anything not in line with them, not an across the board national reaction to politics in general.

  97. stonethrower says: Jun 24, 2009 1:53 PM

    “or better yet, dont talk about politics at all.”
    again, politics are intimately tied to sports.
    Once the owners hit the taxpayers up to build their places of business, they opened that door themselves. and very likely here to stay.
    people need to have the guts enough to vote those stupid billion dollar stadiums down, and make the owners build it themselves.

  98. Pea Tear Griffin says: Jun 24, 2009 2:12 PM

    @JoaquinFenix
    One of my favorite quotes ever.
    Too bad we don’t have leaders like that anymore. Obama, McCain, Bush, Clinton, or whoever else you support couldn’t hold a candle to either of the Roosevelts, Churchill (different country, great leader), or Lincoln (there’s more great leaders, but these are the first ones to pop into my head).

  99. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 3:16 PM

    “It’s funny.. We had no problems with North Korea or Iran when “W” was President. Now that your royal messiah is leading our once great nation, we’re receiving threats of missiles being launched at Hawaii and Iran is on the verge of total civil meltdown.”
    Read a newspaper, moron. Iran’s civil war is being initiated by a more pro-Wester reformist movement. But you couldn’t be bothered with that, because you can’t see much more than Rush Limbaughs pasty buttcheeks when your mouth is sucking on his anus.

  100. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 3:17 PM

    George W Bush let 9-11 happen! Why don’t you rightwingers see that? Osama tried to attack the Twin Towers under Clinton and failed. There’s been no terrorist attacks under President Obama.
    Obama and Clinton > Bush.

  101. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 3:22 PM

    FookFlorio–
    Isn’t it funny, how when you get to speak to military men and women off the record, they seem to support more liberal ideologies than the chickenhawks that have never fought a day in their lives?
    I’m not gonna spout some disingenuous BS like “thank you for your service to our country” like pols and Republicans do to make themselves look patriotic. But thanks for throwing your military status down there. It makes the typical Rightwing attack playbook mostly ineffective, since all it constitutes is calling someone unpatriotic or a hippie.

  102. unclaimedfright says: Jun 24, 2009 3:25 PM

    I love how we’re getting all these vague “Wait until 2012!” warnings from the Rethugs.
    You know what’s gonna happen in 2012? Sarah Palins gonna fall on her makeup-caked face and let Obama walk right over her on the way to his 2nd term. You betcha!

  103. SpartaChris says: Jun 24, 2009 4:09 PM

    Iran’s current civil unrest started because the Iranian citizens got screwed with a fraudulent election, not because some pro-western reformist decided to start an uprising.
    But what do I know. I apparently haven’t read a newspaper.

  104. KP Riordan says: Jun 24, 2009 8:04 PM

    Right back at you hayward giablommi
    I was working the last 8 years,paying taxes. Apparently, those tax dollars were wasted on an education for idiots like you who can’t think.
    Babble on you liberal idiot

  105. cramjones says: Jun 24, 2009 9:23 PM

    “Do Politics And Pro Athletes Mix?”
    By reading the posts, the answer is……………….yes.
    What did I win? Brocato’s book?

  106. foreveriloveatlanta says: Jul 4, 2009 10:24 PM

    He is a kicker, whats does he know about football is the questions!?!?!?! They stand on the sideline in cold weather like ice cubes and can’t tackle a glass of water or a girl on a bike with training wheels.
    PS. get a real facemask!!!!!!

  107. jimicos says: Jul 9, 2009 5:23 PM

    Vox Veritas says:
    June 24, 2009 1:02 AM
    “Its not really “half the country”. Obama won in a landslide.”
    He got 52.9% of the vote, you incredible jackass, and I’m pretty sure that at least 3% have changed their minds by now, barely eight months later.
    ————————–
    Unfortunately, if Obama lost 3% and that entire 3% went to McCain, McCain would still lose. And this is based purely on the popular vote. Which we all know has zero effect on the actual outcome.
    Don’t get me wrong. I voted for the guy with experience. But your math is faulty.

  108. Big Vinny says: Jul 15, 2009 6:55 AM

    Now I know that I don’t like Rich Eisen anymore. Sounds like maybe he should be the one keeping his mouth shut.
    Go join Keith Olbermann on whatever slapdick network he’s on now if you want talk politics…..
    I LOVE the word “slapdick.” Thanks Florio!

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