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Cris Carter Says Goodell "Ain't Got No Rules, Man"

At a time when more folks are realizing the stark differences between the NFL under Paul Tagliabue and the NFL under Roger Goodell, a guy who retired several years before the transition has openly wondered whether he could make it in today’s game.

Former Vikings receiver Cris Carter, now an ESPN analyst, told the new class of rookies as part of his passionate, riveting remarks to them that he doubts he could survive under Goodell.

“I don’t think Michael Irvin and I could have played in the league we have now,” Carter said.  “‘Cause Roger Goodell, man.  Rog ain’t got no rules, man. . . . Rog — ain’t no rules, man.  If you screw up, like it ain’t etched in stone like you might get two, three games, four games.  Rog gonna sit you down, though.  And we’re seeing guys get suspended for the first time in stuff that like we never seen before.

“So if you think the league is the same as it was then and here and no, it’s not, man.  They ain’t messin’ around, bro.”

Carter’s career nearly was derailed before it could get going, due to issues with substance abuse.  The same problems dogged Irvin for a chunk of his own career.

And so the question becomes whether any potential Hall of Famers in the crowd will be able to stay out of trouble long enough to show the rest of us the talents that God has given to them.
      

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  1. slutnuts says: Jul 2, 2009 9:27 AM

    imagine that, you screw up and you get punished. i know its hard for ghetto thugs to wrap their giant intellects around it, but it works for me.
    “rog aint got no rules”, technically that would suggest he does, based on your double negatives…
    who speaks like this? this guy went to college?

  2. DanSnyder says: Jul 2, 2009 9:27 AM

    I don’t see a problem with that at all, you do bad things expect to get punished, you shouldnt rank the things you can and cannot due. Just realize you should not be doing it and dont.

  3. Derrick says: Jul 2, 2009 9:32 AM

    Hey Chris Carter, Roger Goodell here, I’ll clarify the rules for you, get in trouble off the field or bring negative press towads the NFL shield via your conduct or positive drug tests, you get suspended….That’s pretty clear Chris, maybe hooked on phonics should be your next purchase.

  4. hobbes says: Jul 2, 2009 9:38 AM

    sheesh i had to read this 12 times to get it.
    chris carter talks like he has marbles in his mouth. great english skills
    florio you need to edit yourself as well. come on you’re not in the tee ball league anymore.

  5. bow2carmine says: Jul 2, 2009 9:41 AM

    Chris Carter: Cause Roger Goodell, man. Rog ain’t got no rules, man. . . . Rog — ain’t no rules, man… They ain’t messin’ around, bro.
    Rookies: Word?

  6. Beam me up Scotty says: Jul 2, 2009 9:41 AM

    Cris wasn’t an English major at THE Ohio State, was he?

  7. Viks_2010_CHAMPS!! says: Jul 2, 2009 9:45 AM

    Carter needs to learn how to talk. A guy who is on TV as a commentator really needs to learn the English language.
    Maybe Emmitt could teach him.

  8. PFTiswhatitis says: Jul 2, 2009 9:48 AM

    wow he really can not speak.

  9. steve2e says: Jul 2, 2009 9:48 AM

    Now our comments are held for approval by the blog owner??
    NBC ruined you. Time to start a new football website.

  10. EaglesFan05 says: Jul 2, 2009 9:49 AM

    i liked cris carter so much better on inside the nfl on hbo. he talked just enough that you got a little insight into the league from a player’s perspective, but not enough to hear what an idiot he is. espn let’s him talk way to much.
    cris carter, man….cris carter ain’t got no language skills man……

  11. tonyg88 says: Jul 2, 2009 9:53 AM

    Great video on NFL.com – I loved it

  12. winkel33 says: Jul 2, 2009 9:54 AM

    i agree with Carter completely – i like that Goodell is trying to take a stance, although it is debatable if it is having any sort of impact on behavior. But there need to be rules, guidelines on what the punishment is. not some arbitrary decision that could depend on who knows what. The other thing having set rules would do is it would help get these stories out of the news – instead, because Goodell likes to put off making a decision and likes to issue these open ended indefinite punishments, all it does is keep stories of players doing something wrong in the news. How long did PacMan jones have to stay in the news because of the open-ended punishment? Every week we had to have pacMan stories. where if the punishment was set in stone, it would have moved him out of the headlines much quicker (and having a punishment set in stone doesn’t mean it can’t be changed if a player gets in trouble again, or while on punishment?).

  13. Jackson says: Jul 2, 2009 9:56 AM

    I swear I want to bang my head against a wall every time I hear someone speak like this. Rookies are supposed to look up to this? what kind of example is it when you can’t speak properly and communicate with proper speech and dialect?

  14. EdReed4prez says: Jul 2, 2009 9:59 AM

    High school English teacher says “Cris Carter ain’t got no proper grammer, man”

  15. PFTdisabledMyID says: Jul 2, 2009 10:01 AM

    What about the rest of the story on the guy Carter had to wake up during his time on the podium?
    CC finally did grow up and get his head on straight with the Vikings.
    Michael Irvin is the classic example of “Jacka$$” when it comes to his college and pro career. Rog would have sat him down for sure.
    Of all the great things about the new site – having to create a new ID just to post blows the hardest.
    WTF Florio? What R U and the NBC hampsters doing to fix this?

  16. SpartaChris says: Jul 2, 2009 10:11 AM

    What a douche. Who learned him how to spoke?
    I think the league needs to re-think just who they have speaking at these rookie symposiums. If the idea is to set an example, they chose a poor one here.

  17. JAG880 says: Jul 2, 2009 10:14 AM

    And despite his free education, Cris ain’t got no proper grammar.

  18. Kidekk says: Jul 2, 2009 10:23 AM

    This is the double edged sword of what Goodell is doing. On one hand, players need to be held responsible for what they do. On the other hand, if you take away football from these players lives, it takes away the one stable thing that is keeping them from getting in more trouble.
    Now, is it the NFL’s place to want the best for it’s players? From all indications from the actions of Goodell, that is the message that he is trying to send, that the NFL cares about its game and its players. It doesn’t take a middle school graduate to realize that if you remove someone who has some demons from the one place that occupies their time and surrounds them with people that are most likely looking out for their best interests, they only have more time to spend falling off the wayward path. And, no, I’m not trying to apply this sentiment universally (some people do need to be put in jail, just not for minor offenses like possession of mary-jane), but the NFL always talks about being a brotherhood, and a “privilege,” so you would think that Goodell would realize that in order to really help these guys out and look like he is doing something genuine, he needs to put structure back into their lives, not remove it.
    I already know that some of you are going to say that these guys are making the mistakes so the onus falls on them, which is true, but if you really want to make a difference in how people might change, keep them around the team structure and have their teammates help them out. Providing people with a stable support system is the best way to influence their lives positively (although, there are some people that you try to help consistently but get nowhere), and what makes anyone think that suspending LT or Cris Carter for long periods of time would have helped them get over their problems? You take away football and the vices may or may not get worse, but they will, ultimately, have a lot more time on their hands in which they will have the oppurtunity to continue to spiral downward.
    Bottom line, the question here is whether the NFL is responsible for the welfare of its players, and all actions indicate that it wants to be. If that is really the case, Goodell has to find a way to punish players with consistency and establish a set of rules. You can’t establish order without having guidelines in which you follow, and these “indefinite”suspensions are nonsensical in the fact that he is not making a concrete judgment when it is expected of him. If you can’t be specific in your punishment, you don’t deserve to be in a position of power. You can’t be hesitant because it only gives the appearance that you cannot be trusted to make the tough decisions and, like many others have said, it seems like you’re making it up as you go along. Leaders are selected to make timely decisions and take action, not sit on their hands. And whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? Sure there may be plenty of evidence, but even OJ got off. It is not up to Roger Goodell to right the perceived wrongs of the court system. He is not God.

  19. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Jul 2, 2009 10:27 AM

    Wow. When you read Carter’s statements in print, it becomes very clear that his education was scholarship money well spent.
    His point is valid though. There’s no way Irvin (or a few select other ‘Boys) would have made it in today’s league.

  20. Slow Joe says: Jul 2, 2009 10:29 AM

    I like what Goodell is doing. It has nothing to do with comparing the 90s and the the modern day; it’s about stopping a trend that is only going to get worse the longer it goes unchecked.

  21. smiley says: Jul 2, 2009 10:29 AM

    Ain’t ain’t a word, man.

  22. tv says: Jul 2, 2009 10:31 AM

    Judging by his “use” of the English language, it might have been a good thing had he not played.

  23. Mangy66 says: Jul 2, 2009 10:33 AM

    Hope these rooks pay attention. Carter’s words come straight from the source. He was a bad seed, and got straightened out with the help of Reggie White when they were both Eagles.
    Problem is…there aren’t that many Reggie White’s around anymore who are true leaders and care more about their teammates than headlines.
    RIP Reggie…you were a man among men who acted like boys.

  24. Hungry N. Hadasnack says: Jul 2, 2009 10:40 AM

    Somewhere in the midst of all that eloquence, Carter’s actually got a point.

  25. igglesfan74 says: Jul 2, 2009 10:52 AM

    Holy crap, please tell me he ain’t paid to be a public speaker.
    He ain’t a good one…bro.

  26. pacmanisathug says: Jul 2, 2009 10:54 AM

    do any of you think that lawrence taylor, michael irvin or cris carter would have lasted long under goodell. all 3 would have been suspended for failing drug tests.
    i’ll all for cleaning up the nfl, but remember this – they don’t drug test artists at the grammy awards. think that any of you favorite rock bands ever got high?

  27. Facts Domino says: Jul 2, 2009 10:56 AM

    The Ohio State alum(not sure if it’s fair to call him a graduate) ain’t got no grammar man. He ain’t got no education…

  28. Hungry N. Hadasnack says: Jul 2, 2009 11:09 AM

    I don’t like everything Goodell does, by ANY means, but the individualized discipline policy makes sense:
    Why use a broadsword when a scalpel is much more effective?
    Besides, there’s just no way to create a sensible, pre-emptive formula (Crime A = Punishment B, Crime C = Punishment D) that would fairly, reasonably take into account all the mitigating factors, concerning each individual player, and the circumstances surrounding each particular crime/infraction.
    Where a standard policy makes sense (such as failing drug tests), fine.
    But in a lot of other cases, a dictator taking into account all the particulars and then ruling works much better.

  29. wags says: Jul 2, 2009 11:10 AM

    Can I see a version of his speech translated into English? Another talking head that the 4-letter must be proud of.

  30. Brownwood26 says: Jul 2, 2009 11:17 AM

    Carter is an idiot. Nobody owes him or Irvin a career, that’s up to them. So if they couldn’t stop snuffing blow long enough to play ball, that’s nobody’s issue but theirs.
    When you screw up nobody OWES you a 2nd chance. You just hope that someone grants you one. If Pacman got back in the league, I’m sure Carter and Irvin would have had another chance too.

  31. TheVillain112 says: Jul 2, 2009 11:18 AM

    Goodell might not have any rules but the English language does.

  32. VoxVeritas says: Jul 2, 2009 11:38 AM

    “His point is valid though.”
    No it’s not. Irvin did play in a league where punishment was not etched in stone. That’s why he served a 5 game suspension without ever having been convicted of the crime or testing positive on a drug test, even though the standard was 4 games. Tagliabue arbitrarily handed down the punishment, and he arbitrarily added an extra game over what he normally gave out.

  33. AWestcave says: Jul 2, 2009 11:42 AM

    “I don’t think Michael Irvin and I could have played in the league we have now, ’cause Roger Goodell, man. Rog ain’t got no rules, man. . . . Rog — ain’t no rules, man. If you screw up, like it ain’t etched in stone like you might get two, three games, four games. Rog gonna sit you down, though. And we’re seeing guys get suspended for the first time in stuff that like we never seen before. So if you think the league is the same as it was then and here and no, it’s not, man. They ain’t messin’ around, bro.”
    Christ, who saw this guy and thought, “He has a future in broadcasting.”?

  34. VoxVeritas says: Jul 2, 2009 11:44 AM

    “Hope these rooks pay attention. Carter’s words come straight from the source. He was a bad seed, and got straightened out with the help of Reggie White when they were both Eagles.”
    So why did Buddy Ryan end up cutting him? I’m sure it wasn’t because he caught 11 TD passes in his last year with the Eagirls.
    “RIP Reggie…you were a man among men who acted like boys.”
    I remember Reverend Reggie shouting “GET THAT GODDAMN CAMERA OFFA ME!” when the camera focused on him after another Packers butt-whipping at the hands of the Cowboys.

  35. Rasputin says: Jul 2, 2009 11:55 AM

    When Roger casts the same stern eye on the owners (Cowboys practice facility, Browns Staph infections, Matt Millen) I’ll see him as something other than a tool of his billionaire buddies.
    It’s one thing to come down on performance-enhancing drugs which can affect what he calls the “product.” But, frankly, hard drugs are the job of law enforcement. All he needs to do is put in a binding clause to all player contracts stating that, if convicted of a felony (any felony), they formally request from the judge at least the standard minimum sentence – even if it means jail time – or they waive their rights to play in the NFL. They’ll get the minimum, of course, but they will serve time like everyone else does.
    Solves everything – do the crime, do the time – but your career is waiting for you afterwards – unless you’re too old when you get out. No more drama.

  36. rayg says: Jul 2, 2009 11:56 AM

    Playing in the NFL is not a right. Just about every employer in the country has a code of conduct policy to maintain employment. And it has nothing to do with being convicted of a crime.
    Goodell is doing the right thing.

  37. almar says: Jul 2, 2009 12:05 PM

    Truth is when you say NO!! long enough the players will catch up with Goodell soon enough. The one certainty that has been clearly established is that wrongs and misdeeds that come to public attention will be swiftly dealt with. I personally believe these suspensions have already worked as a deterrent. Carter sounds like so many people who struggle to except responsibility for their action. My guess is if he was playing today and with the passion he manifested while playing, after a few NO’s he would have made the adjustments. If not few us would be lamenting the quality of play we saw during his era. Go Goodell!!!

  38. clintdogg says: Jul 2, 2009 12:16 PM

    Please fire this guy. Goodell is killing the NFL.

  39. Giant Midget says: Jul 2, 2009 12:21 PM

    For all of you talking smack about Carters choice of speech, he is speaking to his audience. He’s not speaking to the board of trustees for GM or Ford. He is talking to a group of young men and using similar language as they use to get his point across. Who as we all know, didn’t get into the college they played for for academic reasons. So cut him some slack. He’s just trying to help these young kids out.

  40. JSpicoli says: Jul 2, 2009 12:29 PM

    You can say that about a thousand things/people that existed in the old NFL.
    The sadest testimony to the state of today’s media and NFL is that a dumb dooooosh like Carter is on TV as a commentator. Smarmy and stupid loser.

  41. blitzburgh58 says: Jul 2, 2009 12:57 PM

    rog has to put the smack down on these guys. it does seem to be a trend. things are out of control, are bad for the nfl brand. all about protecting that brand. but lets see how well they do with the uncapped year/lockout. that would not be good for the brand or the rowdies.

  42. Tiki's Barber says: Jul 2, 2009 1:04 PM

    “Giant Midget says:
    July 2, 2009 12:21 PM
    For all of you talking smack about Carters choice of speech, he is speaking to his audience. He’s not speaking to the board of trustees for GM or Ford. He is talking to a group of young men and using similar language as they use to get his point across. Who as we all know, didn’t get into the college they played for for academic reasons. So cut him some slack. He’s just trying to help these young kids out.”
    I agree with Giant Midget. Carter doesn’t sound like this on TV. He was trying to relate to a group of 21 year olds and hold their attention. He is 1000x better than Emmitt Smith. But not as good as Tiki. Pontificate on that!

  43. empty13 says: Jul 2, 2009 1:17 PM

    if roger is “killing the nfl”… then what you think “makes the nfl” deserves to die.

  44. EskinSux says: Jul 2, 2009 1:32 PM

    When you are 21, the last thing you want to hear is some old dude trying to relate. Half of em probably weren’t listening anyway…Now, i agree with Carter as a mentor, almost blew it, and straightned his shit out and had a productive career. Voice of experience…. But, think about it……if i talked to my kids in their style of talk to relate, they’d probably have my ass committed and i know my boys would still be laughing…….

  45. Mangy66 says: Jul 2, 2009 1:39 PM

    “So why did Buddy Ryan end up cutting him? I’m sure it wasn’t because he caught 11 TD passes in his last year with the Eagirls.”
    White baptized Carter in the pool at his home when they were Eagles. Buddy Ryan cut him shortly thereafter because they apparently agreed that it was time for Carter to get a change of scenery.
    “I remember Reverend Reggie shouting “GET THAT GODDAMN CAMERA OFFA ME!” when the camera focused on him after another Packers butt-whipping at the hands of the Cowboys.”
    Your point being? Oh wait…you’re a Cowboys fan…pointless statements are expected.

  46. ronmexico says: Jul 2, 2009 1:58 PM

    VoxVeritas says:
    July 2, 2009 11:38 AM
    “His point is valid though.”
    No it’s not. Irvin did play in a league where punishment was not etched in stone. That’s why he served a 5 game suspension without ever having been convicted of the crime or testing positive on a drug test, even though the standard was 4 games. Tagliabue arbitrarily handed down the punishment, and he arbitrarily added an extra game over what he normally gave out.
    _____________________
    Wait, which Vox is this?

  47. RedskinPete says: Jul 2, 2009 2:10 PM

    Carter is self promoting bum. I don’t like him & he don’t like us (Skins). HAIL

  48. favres_right_tendon says: Jul 2, 2009 2:14 PM

    It’s obvious Mr. Carter still has an addiction problem going by his limited 3rd grade grammer. You suck on ESPN and you suck as a so called ‘speaker’ so do us a favor and shut your pie hole.

  49. SteelerHoo says: Jul 2, 2009 2:44 PM

    “EskinSux says:
    Voice of experience…. But, think about it……if i talked to my kids in their style of talk to relate, they’d probably have my ass committed and i know my boys would still be laughing…….”
    that’s because you’re just a dad (nothing wrong there) and didn’t play a professional sport. athletes, especially those new to the league, still have a decent amount of respect for those who have gone before them and put up numbers. much more respect than they would have in a similarly aged adult who didn’t play and tried to speak in their style.

  50. Nard100 says: Jul 2, 2009 3:24 PM

    I love how guy like Carter try to cast what Roger Goodell in a bad light by casting aspersions on his judgements. Let’s take look back to the Paul Tagliabue era shall we? When the Bengals seemed to be competing with one another to see who could grow their rap sheet faster? remember all the hand-wringing wondering if anyone was going to do anything about it? To Cris Carter I say, you are part of the reason that Roger does what he does. It had to be done! Cris does bring up an interesting point, what would the NFL have been like without people like LT. As a Giants fan, if he had been in today’s NFL, perhaps he might have had a much shorter career, bu perhaps he would have been a better man for it. The fact that he did drugs and hookers and lord-knows-what-else has unquestionably tarnished his legacy. Think that sounds crazy? If he stayed straight would there be another guy calling himself “LT” in this league? I think not! As far as the argument that simply allowing rule/lawbreakers to continue to play football so they won’t get into more trouble is disingenuous to say the least. I enter Daryl Strawberry as exhibit A. The man was given chance after chance, but finally it took prison to get it into his very thick skull!

  51. 69ers says: Jul 2, 2009 3:42 PM

    What was he teaching? Hopefully not English

  52. longrodvanhungendong says: Jul 2, 2009 4:39 PM

    The NFL can’t help the kids that need help. They can only help the ones that WANT help. Most of these guy have no clue they are not living right because it is how they were raised. If they are getting a free ride in college, drug test them every month. Don’t wait until the NFL where they are making 6 figures. God knows the colleges don’t give a damn about them getting educated. They should at least teach them responsability.

  53. butterk2 says: Jul 2, 2009 4:51 PM

    Seriously why does everyone “love” punishing players and “cleaning” up the league. Who cares, they are playing a game. I don’t see why everyone wants them to be saints. Say what you will about LT but the game would have been worse without him and his side issues. The real issue is there are 5 million reporters waiting around to catch these athletes doing something wrong. And they will always do something wrong, they are kids in there young 20′s with lots of money. Let them live their lives. Me, I just want to watch football on Sundays and could care less about so called “off the field issues”

  54. VoxVeritas says: Jul 2, 2009 5:11 PM

    “Your point being?”
    That Reggie White was a hypocrite.

  55. igglesfan74 says: Jul 2, 2009 5:12 PM

    wow. I am relatively impressed with your level of ignorance.
    It is about caring for the welfare of your players, protecting your investment, providing good role models, and maintaining the image of your program-and ticket/merchandise sales. You would want to spend your draft picks on guys that want to perform and take care of themselves. Why utilize a high draft pick and dish out millions and invest in someone who might fail to show up, get arrested, or overdose without proper guidance? The commish, the owners, the coaches, and teammates could see it all go down the tubes if a player gets out of control. As a fan, wouldn’t you be pissed if your star player was in jail instead of at a game or practice? Should there be no punishment for that? What if your kid was wearing that guy’s jersey?

  56. mrmagoo says: Jul 2, 2009 6:06 PM

    VoxVeritas says:
    July 2, 2009 11:38 AM
    “His point is valid though.”
    No it’s not. Irvin did play in a league where punishment was not etched in stone. That’s why he served a 5 game suspension without ever having been convicted of the crime or testing positive on a drug test, even though the standard was 4 games. Tagliabue arbitrarily handed down the punishment, and he arbitrarily added an extra game over what he normally gave out.
    _________________________
    Actually when Irvin played the league was kind of ‘cutthroat’. At least when it came time to get a hair cut.

  57. Laidback says: Jul 2, 2009 6:45 PM

    To all of the “Rhodes Scholars” out there who would not doubt loose a game of scrabble to a six year old. I say go light on the grammer.
    Those young men new exactly what Chris was conveying, the spirit and wisdom was behind the words.
    Therefore Mr Carter is to be commended for being honest and forthright in his address.
    Oh by the way, Mr Carters eloquence was enough to help the Vikings to have one of the most prolific scoring tandems in the history of the NFL. That history will be welcomed when He hits the broadcasters’ booth.

  58. Mark0226 says: Jul 2, 2009 7:24 PM

    steve2e says: “Now our comments are held for approval by the blog owner?? NBC ruined you. Time to start a new football website.”
    Where have you been? The comments have always been held for approval. In fact, sometimes they are not approved and never see the light of day. Like it or not, this is not new and has nothing to do with the move to NBC.

  59. MasterShake says: Jul 3, 2009 12:37 AM

    C.C. could run a great route and could catch like a mother——- but the stuff that comes out of his mouth both on TV and at speaking opportunities leaves something to be desired. For those that praise the “mentoring” of Reggie White, please remember…… Asians can turn a TV into a watch. Not exact quote I’m pretty sure.

  60. psimon says: Jul 3, 2009 1:57 PM

    I never post blogs, but reading you idiots caused me to do so… This article should’ve been about the message Chris Carter was sending to these young athletes, not the way it was presented… But as is the case with most blog entries, people only use it to tear down others to feel better about themselves… WELL YOU IDIOTS should feel wonderful about yourselves… Oh and great job Florio, of making a mockery of Carter’s speech!!! WOW!!! Get a life people!!!

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