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Questions Still Linger Regarding McNair Murder

We apologize if we aren’t inclined to accept without reservation the tidy explanation that has been offered up by the Nashville Chief of Police for the death of former Titans and Ravens quarterback Steve McNair. 

There’s something about a woman with gunpowder residue on her left hand and a bullet hole in her right temple that makes us wonder what the hell is going on.

But even if, as it appears, Kazemi did it, we have questions that need to be answered.

Most importantly, why is the identity of the person who sold her a gun such a big secret?  We now know she bought it in the parking lot of a Dave & Buster’s.  (I’ve been to a Dave & Buster’s, and I didn’t notice the “Buy A Handgun Here” sign anywhere on the property.)

And we still want to know what role if any Keith Norfleet had either in the purchase of the gun or the thought process that resulted in the purchase of the gun. 

Did Kazemi know on her own how to “score” a gun, or did she have to ask someone (like Norfleet) to hook her up?  And if the person(s) she asked were the same person(s) to whom she had been expressing suicidal thoughts over the last week of her life, why didn’t they intervene?

Then there’s the reality that, as of a day ago, police were stumped as to a motive.  So how did they determine in the past 24 hours that Kazemi had been talking about killing herself in the week before she took Steve McNair with her?

One of our biggest questions is how an apparent stream of cries for help became something far more sinister, resulting in both a murder and a suicide.  If she was indeed the shooter, we think that something happening in connection with that DUI arrest set in motion a chain of events that culminated in the final action.

Bottom line?  Though the Nashville Metro police apparently believe that this ugly ordeal can be neatly wrapped up and tied with a bow, we think that more than a few folks who were in the periphery of Kazemi and McNair’s lives knew or should have known that something very bad was about to happen.

And none of them did a thing.

Setting aside the question of whether anyone broke the law (and we don’t know whether anyone did), this case feels to us like a much more troubling example of a person being assaulted in the street — and the folks in the nearby buildings pulling their blinds and turning up the volume on their televisions.

UPDATE:  Aaron Wilson watched the press conference and re-watched it on his DVR.  Here’s what the Chief of Police said about the gun transaction:  “We believe that it was just her and the person that she purchased it from.  She knew the gentleman she bought the gun from from a prior vehicle purchase or discussion of a prior vehicle purchase.  Quite by serendipity, it turned out he said to her that he had a gun when she asked him if he knew of any way of getting a gun.”

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  1. HawgNSonsTV says: Jul 8, 2009 5:38 PM

    great job Florio…you’re like a bloodhound…a regular Dick Tracy

  2. ccj21 says: Jul 8, 2009 5:38 PM

    Maybe you should have done a little more investigative work yourself before making such an uniformed post.

  3. Slow Joe says: Jul 8, 2009 5:41 PM

    Settle down. This is like an episode of Law and Order, and we’ve just gotten to the first commercial break.
    Dun dun!

  4. HawgNSonsTV says: Jul 8, 2009 5:43 PM

    “serendipity” ….EXCELLENT choice of words Florio …that’s a NEW word to add to my arsenal

  5. Kidekk says: Jul 8, 2009 5:46 PM

    Why’d you change the title of your post?

  6. realitypolice says: Jul 8, 2009 5:48 PM

    “And we still want to know what role if any Keith Norfleet had either in the purchase of the gun or the thought process that resulted in the purchase of the gun.”
    Who is “we”, Florio. You and your merry band of conspiracy theorists?
    “then there’s the reality that, as of a day ago, police were stumped as to a motive. So how did they determine in the past 24 hours that Kazemi had been talking about killing herself in the week before she took Steve McNair with her?”
    How do you know that is reality and not the Nashville PD selectively withholding information so as not to jeapordize their investigation?

  7. Buffalo Hogan says: Jul 8, 2009 5:48 PM

    Well that concludes it for me. Whenever I hear the word “serendipity” used to explain a murder case – i’m satisfied.

  8. scalia75 says: Jul 8, 2009 5:50 PM

    Yeah, Florio. OJ didn’t do it either. Please give your law degree back. You’re analytical skills, well, suck.

  9. MkePackFan says: Jul 8, 2009 5:51 PM

    “There’s something about a woman with gunpowder residue on her left hand and a bullet hole in her right temple that makes us wonder what the hell is going on.”
    Hey Gil Grissom….err, Mike Florio…take your left hand, make it into a gun hand, and put it up against your temple…or better yet, take a stapler off your desk and do the same thing. And “bullet to the right temple” is pretty general…you don’t need to aim a gun perfectly perpendicular to the temple to achieve the desired result…in fact, you’ll probably achieve greater success angling it up and towards the back of the head.
    Mike, shut up please with your theories…yeah, you’re a lawyer and all, but not a cop, not an investigator…you’re embarrassing yourself.

  10. MkePackFan says: Jul 8, 2009 5:53 PM

    God, with all of Florio’s “theories”, his mancrush for Brett Favre is apparently overshadowed by his crush on McNair. Apparently “victim of a violent crime” is more desirable in Florio’s mind than accepting a crime of passion and the craziness of a woman.

  11. jacknace says: Jul 8, 2009 5:54 PM

    Setting aside the question of whether anyone broke the law (and we don’t know whether anyone did)
    Aren’t you breaking the law by selling/buying a gun in a parking lot to someone who is not of age to purchase one?

  12. FalconDevil says: Jul 8, 2009 5:54 PM

    She shot 5 times, 4 of those prob involved her using both hands to grasp the gun, with the left over the right as a person who is right handed does when shooting a pistol. You guys are retarded. Give it up.

  13. VoxVeritas says: Jul 8, 2009 5:54 PM

    it’s my understanding that she was shot in the forehead. You’re trying to blame everyone but Kazemi and you’re pulling out all the stops. Why?

  14. Quake 'n' Shake says: Jul 8, 2009 5:55 PM

    Well sweet jeezus Florio, I’m glad you’re on the case. Why don’t you see if Grissom and rest of the gang from CSI can join you in solving this?

  15. mjq says: Jul 8, 2009 5:56 PM

    Was she left handed?
    If this was the first gun she fired wouldn’t it take a girl of her size both hands to steady it?
    Why would a left-handed person shoot themself in the right temple?
    Why so many shots into McNair?
    Couldn’t a third person wearing gloves, shoot Steve once (killing him) shoot her in the right temple (killing her) then place the gun in her left hand and (assisted) squeeze 3 more rounds into McNair? Then drop the gun beneath her and leave?
    What am i missing? How can this be a over and done case so quickly?
    Hey, maybe it is what it appears to be but what’s the rush?
    “It smells, it smells really bad”
    I haven’t seen the crime scene. I don’t know what her mental state was, if she had a history or radical behavior. Does anyone know if after the DUI McNair told her that it was over?
    Same Police Officer, both incidents, reprimanded for the initial run-in with McNair….
    Did he hold a grudge, did he have an issue with mixed relationships, was he jealous of McNair’s new gal?
    From everything i’ve read, McNair wasn’t opposed to being seen with her, spent a lot of time at the condo and
    we still don’t have a concrete motive, it’s all speculative.
    I’m not trying to be all LA Confidential here but if i was on objective person working the case, i wouldn’t be satisfied that the conclusion was accurate.

  16. Bob Sacamano says: Jul 8, 2009 5:56 PM

    “There’s something about a woman with gunpowder residue on her left hand and a bullet hole in her right temple that makes us wonder what the hell is going on.”
    Weren’t you a lawyer, Florio? What did you handle, personal injury?
    The police say there was too much blood to get a test from her right hand, which is the hand she would have used to shoot herself in the right side of the head. However, since they found residue on her left hand, it’s clear she fired the gun.
    And if the girl held the gun with both hands when she shot McNair, which tends to be the case more often than not, it would put gunshot residue on both her hands.

  17. Kidekk says: Jul 8, 2009 5:57 PM

    Via Action Dan, the possible way the GSR was on her left hand when the bullet went through her right temple is that she turned her head. The rest of you who are wondering how she could have pulled that off can join me in feeling like an idiot. Florio, you’re welcome as well.

  18. mggoilers says: Jul 8, 2009 5:58 PM

    Pretty straightforward.
    Two hands used to shoot Affair McNair, hence the gunpowder on the left hand. Right hand to shoot herself.
    This is done. Just pray for his kids and wife.

  19. JSpicoli says: Jul 8, 2009 5:59 PM

    When I heard the residue was on the left hand, my first thought was she was a southpaw, and OBV. the hole in her head was on the left side. WTF? Gunshot on right temple???????? This has to be wrong, or this entire press conference was a red herring to trap someone who staged this whole thing.

  20. CardHock says: Jul 8, 2009 6:02 PM

    Sherlock. I think the police are best qualified to handle this case.
    Why does this have to be made into a conspiracy? If the police are not releasing information reguarding the case I am sure it is still pending.
    Why is this site becoming a tabloid? Did NBC merge with you guys so they could have some crazy wack job subsidiary on the side that can make outlandish claims without having to take the heat no matter how foolish it sounds?
    If the police are not talking about who sold the gun then there is a good reason for it. Maybe they are watching this guy. Forensics and bloodspatter make it almost impossible to stage a suicide. Ill go with the percentages on this one, the b itch lost it and took him out case closed.
    If this was a man that had committed this crime there would be no doubts.

  21. Real Football Fan says: Jul 8, 2009 6:02 PM

    Don’t bring common sense and reason into this murder mystery, Mike.
    clearly, in most of these people’s altruistic worlds, police NEVER try to wrap cases up quickly despite their being contrary evidence screaming in their faces.
    You and those of us who agree with you are all morons to question authority and what they say.

  22. Dryheave says: Jul 8, 2009 6:05 PM

    LMAO….This site has become a complete joke…..hey Florio, maybe O.J. snuck out of prison and did the deed….

  23. TrueFan says: Jul 8, 2009 6:07 PM

    Another bit of info bothers me too, that I picked up from a news article. The article proclaimed that she was recently concerned about finances, including being unable to pay for her car, etc. I’m not sure I’m following why that would be an issue as McNair supposedly BOUGHT her an Escalade. I’d be thinking her car troubles were over..
    I’m sorry but this thing stinks to high heaven.
    Either the boyfriend put her up to this or she was a seriously unbalanced individual. Or both.

  24. Hungry N. Hadasnack says: Jul 8, 2009 6:09 PM

    Serendipitous?
    WFT? For WHO?
    Could all of this be one enormous head-fake by Nashville PD, while they continue investigating other leads/suspects/possibilities (and the REAL perpetrator(s) are lulled into a false sense of security)?
    Is that a common practice for investigators–to publicly rule things one way, when they know (or suspect) the truth is otherwise?
    GSR on the left hand, but bullet wound to the right temple…?
    Another WTF?…
    Did she use her THUMB to squeeze the trigger, like some drunken chimp retard?

  25. deymond says: Jul 8, 2009 6:10 PM

    Why don’t you tell us what happened, jackass? You keep complaining that the Nashville PD isn’t providing any assistance in your quest to turn this into some bizarre conspiracy, just grow a pair and make your own story.
    To say that the police were “stumped as to a motive” is a blatant lie and you know it. The police are professionals, a standard you rapidly fall away from whenever someone dies. There’s no “rumor mill” section on their website. They’re not in the business of feeding you.
    You behaved the same way with the Schuyler incident, but apparently the added media coverage surrounding this has emboldened you to libel anyone you want.

  26. vikes_favre says: Jul 8, 2009 6:11 PM

    My unanswered question stems from the July 2 arrest of Ms. Kazemi: how did Kazemi get a hold of alcohol? Was McNair with her while she was drinking? And was he the one who provided alcohol to her (this her lying about drinking?). And shouldn’t he have been arrested as well for providing alcohol to a minor–if that was the case? How else would she have gotten it? And shouldn’t this cop, who let McNair go, be investigated?

  27. Deegizzle says: Jul 8, 2009 6:13 PM

    “It’s believed that Kazemi attempted to shoot herself so she would fall into McNair’s lap, but she slumped off his lap and instead fell to the floor. The gun was discovered under her body. ”
    —————
    Is this really their best explanation as to why a person would shoot themselves in the right temple with their left hand?
    Guys, sure we all understand that it is POSSIBLE however it is extremely awkward and unlikely that a person would do this.

  28. urbusted says: Jul 8, 2009 6:14 PM

    One of our biggest questions is how an apparent stream of cries for help became something far more sinister, resulting in both a murder and a suicide. If she was indeed the shooter, we think that something happening in connection with that DUI arrest set in motion a chain of events that culminated in the final action.
    HEY, unfortunately these types of things happen to every day people all of the time, and the same questions apply. People who love these (victims) if you will, simply don’t recognize the symptoms until it’s too late. Nashville is a good size city with quality investigators I’m sure. I would bet that there has been administrative scrutiny in this case as well given the high profile of the incident. I have to give the benefit of the doubt to the Police dept. since they have seen the evidence first hand.

  29. Idlespectator says: Jul 8, 2009 6:15 PM

    The Nashville police seem awfully lenient towards peripheral actors.
    The boyfriend isn’t a suspect. The gun seller isn’t named (nor, apparently, are charges brought against him for illegal sales to a minor). Whoever moved the casing didn’t tamper with evidence.
    So what gives?
    It sounds like their primary goal is to avoid a trial of anyone where evidence counter to their theory could be presented.
    For instance, the gun seller is interesting. Suppose a different set of facts. Suppose a high profile, well-regarded local sports hero was killed by a drunk driver (who also dies). During the investigation, it turns out the underage drunk driver had bought his/her booze from someone in a Dave and Buster’s parking lot. Does anyone think the police would neglect to bringing charges against the liquor seller?
    Also, what does “inconclusive” mean? Does it mean “we botched the test?” Crime scene procedures weren’t followed? We didn’t find any gpr but everything else fits?

  30. nsw-pirates says: Jul 8, 2009 6:21 PM

    Too much CSI not enough football.

  31. ZN0rseman says: Jul 8, 2009 6:24 PM

    I realize that it may be hard to accept that generally good people crack and do crazy and wildly bad things, but it happens all of the time.
    McNair was no saint. Like countless bastards before him, he was knowingly using a young, attractive, naive and emotionally unstable girl for his own pleasure. He did it because that’s the kind of man he was.
    The girl he picked was young, hot and had probably had never suffered a rejection by a man in her entire life. Rejection is especially tough for people like that… they don’t expect, nor do they have the ability to handle the emotional impacts of rejection by someone they love. It can lead to the immediate desire for violence, because it feels like a betrayal.
    However, the reality remains that if McNair had been faithful to his wife, he’d still be alive today. He clearly wasn’t, and as a result, he isn’t.
    $0.02,
    –Z

  32. methomps says: Jul 8, 2009 6:24 PM

    The police say there was too much blood to get a test from her right hand, which is the hand she would have used to shoot herself in the right side of the head. However, since they found residue on her left hand, it’s clear she fired the gun.
    ————————————-
    The problem is that people (1) take news reports as the all-encompassing picture of an event and (2) are just too conditioned from tv and movies to think that minor issues here and there are keys that will unlock a winding and twisting conspiracy of grand proportions.

  33. endzoneview says: Jul 8, 2009 6:30 PM

    Well, that’s pretty boring for a rumor site, but that is the most likely scenario.
    mggoilers says:
    July 8, 2009 5:58 PM
    Pretty straightforward.
    Two hands used to shoot Affair McNair, hence the gunpowder on the left hand. Right hand to shoot herself.
    This is done. Just pray for his kids and wife.

  34. swoopnc says: Jul 8, 2009 6:30 PM

    From another post:
    “He will not apologize to the cop or to the ex-boyfriend who he so readily disparaged and insinuated to have had involvement. He doesn’t have the class nor the nuts. If you’re new to to this site, NBC readers, you’ll quickly find out that Florio thinks that if you’re a cop, you’re wrong.”
    Amen! And I love how the people that are bitching because the investigation is over so quickly are the same ones that were bashing the police for not releasing every detail on day one.
    The bottom about this or any other crime, sometimes you don’t get the whole story and all of the questions can never be answered because the ones that can answer them are dead.
    Florio, just come out and say it, are you accusing the Nashville PD of covering up something?
    And for eveyone in shock that no one hears the five shots, sometimes people just don’t give a damn. It doesn’t mean everyone is in on a conspiracy theory.

  35. dlcreed44 says: Jul 8, 2009 6:30 PM

    This case is resolved. This post is entirely to generate traffic to MSNBCS / PFT. Pretty pathetic if you ask me.
    Also, a “Great Warrior” doesn’t get snuck up on and shot in his sleep.

  36. spyboots says: Jul 8, 2009 6:32 PM

    Where does it say it was her RIGHT temple?

  37. tj.52 says: Jul 8, 2009 6:32 PM

    Thanks for putting this one to rest, detectives. (sarcasm)
    WTF? These detectives have managed to come up with a story which is by far more ridiculous sounding than any of the other “theories” out there.
    So this girl (sober?) put a gun point blank at this guys head and blew his brains out the other side. THEN, not having gotten enough, she stood up and put two more in his chest. THEN, this 20 year old girl who has never killed anyone before decides that she needs more gore and puts the gun at the side of the head that she blew the brains out of and fires again.
    Then, and this is where the police deptartments colorful imagination comes into play, she tries to kill herself so that her body ends up on his lap and SUCCEEDS for a brief moment before her body slides to the ground, thus explaining the old gun under the body trick.
    You have got to be kidding me. What a travesty. Maybe the girl was a little distraught but that would have to be the work of a certified psycho.
    I won’t even get into the whole “powder residue on her non-firing hand” theory.

  38. BuckyBadger says: Jul 8, 2009 6:32 PM

    Some of you are ripping on Florio but ignoring the facts stated.
    There is no mention on gun residue on the right hand, only been stated for the left. The point of entry was the right temple. Depending on the size of the barrel that makes it a very unnatural shot to cross your hand over your body to kill yourself.
    Maybe it was a murder-suicide. I don’t think every detail has been released to us. One possible solution would be she was shot and than the assailant than fired one more shot into McNair with her holding the gun. Again with out all the information its hard for us to know.
    There is some fishy stuff here.

  39. Brian Moore1 says: Jul 8, 2009 6:33 PM

    Regarding the right temple/left hand “mystery,” this paragraph from the AP story – which I found at NBCSports.com – seems dispositive:
    “Before shooting herself, she sat next to his body and “tried to stage it so she would fall in his lap,” Serpas said. She did, but her body slid to the floor and ended up at McNair’s feet. The gun was found underneath her.”
    1. You can hit your right temple with your left hand if, as Kidekk points out, you do this crazy acrobatic move called “turning your head.” So it can be done.
    2. Staging a murder-suicide to look like a double murder committed by the murder victim is a perfectly plausible explanation for why someone would use her left hand to shoot her right temple. So there’s a motive for doing so.
    Even if the cops’ theory isn’t, well, bulletproof, it’s a far better explanation than anything else I’ve read.
    Florio does make one good point: Kazemi had lousy friends and lovers.

  40. nosferatu says: Jul 8, 2009 6:37 PM

    Favre did it

  41. woodsidegil says: Jul 8, 2009 6:38 PM

    Inspector Clouseau…er Mr. Florio, please stick to chasing ambulances or whatever legal product liability cases you handle and let the professionals do their job. Besides, everyone knows it was either Professor Plum or Colonel Mustard that killed McNair with a wrench in the conservatory.

  42. MkePackFan says: Jul 8, 2009 6:39 PM

    # vikes_favre says: July 8, 2009 6:11 PM
    My unanswered question stems from the July 2 arrest of Ms. Kazemi: how did Kazemi get a hold of alcohol? Was McNair with her while she was drinking? And was he the one who provided alcohol to her (this her lying about drinking?). And shouldn’t he have been arrested as well for providing alcohol to a minor–if that was the case? How else would she have gotten it? And shouldn’t this cop, who let McNair go, be investigated?
    ———————————————–
    McNair was in a car with her when she got pulled over and he got a taxi.
    As for alcohol, he could’ve gotten it from her or any restaurant/club they were at. Is a restaurant/club going to check for ID when it’s Steve McNair and a woman with him? They’re supposed to yes, but considering he’s an athlete of stature, they’re turning away a hefty bill if they do…and if they were coming from an apartment or something, well, the cops need to prove he provided her with the alcohol, which isn’t something that can be done at a traffic stop and likely not worth the PD’s time doing (if she had gotten into a car wreck killing someone or someone else, they would).

  43. hutch says: Jul 8, 2009 6:40 PM

    Florio, for crying out loud, watch and listen to the news conference before posting something as stupid as this. I know you were a ‘lawyer’ but obviously you weren’t a criminal defense lawyer or prosecutor, and a law degree is not a one size fits all.
    Going to call it quits on this site for a couple days, your making this way more of a story then it should be. Never thought I’d say this, but missing the hourly favre update.

  44. MkePackFan says: Jul 8, 2009 6:42 PM

    tj.52 says: July 8, 2009 6:32 PM
    Thanks for putting this one to rest, detectives. (sarcasm)
    WTF? These detectives have managed to come up with a story which is by far more ridiculous sounding than any of the other “theories” out there.
    So this girl (sober?) put a gun point blank at this guys head and blew his brains out the other side. THEN, not having gotten enough, she stood up and put two more in his chest. THEN, this 20 year old girl who has never killed anyone before decides that she needs more gore and puts the gun at the side of the head that she blew the brains out of and fires again.
    Then, and this is where the police deptartments colorful imagination comes into play, she tries to kill herself so that her body ends up on his lap and SUCCEEDS for a brief moment before her body slides to the ground, thus explaining the old gun under the body trick.
    You have got to be kidding me. What a travesty. Maybe the girl was a little distraught but that would have to be the work of a certified psycho.
    I won’t even get into the whole “powder residue on her non-firing hand” theory.
    —————————————
    Florio must have stock in a tin foil company.
    Genius…it’s called anger…rage…just because you don’t need more than 1 shot to kill someone doesn’t mean they won’t let their rage take control and go overboard in the shooting department.
    You guys should quit your current jobs and become cops if you think you can do better.

  45. praveen says: Jul 8, 2009 6:43 PM

    First of all , for those whining about the coverage here – this is the RUMOR MILL section of profootballtalk. Speculation is what is expected when dealing with sordid parts of a football player’s life when the mainstream press is not covering some aspect.
    So Florio has every right to speculate on this case and it wouldn’t be off topic.
    I find it very probable that the psycho woman shot herself after shooting McNair. But one thing that hasn’t been discussed is the idea whether the ex boyfriend knew she was getting unstable and felt like he could provoke her into doing what she did so he could get revenge on McNair indirectly. Whether he thought the psycho would shoot herself too, i dont know. At the least, it is worth exploring if he riled her up to get McNair dead.
    I don’t see why a private seller is able to circumvent the law when a licensed dealer cant. She is underage with a DUI. There’s gotta be something wrong with a person being able to sell something like that so easily.

  46. Brian Moore1 says: Jul 8, 2009 6:44 PM

    Correction to my comment…
    The cops say she was trying to stage it so she’d die lying in his lap, not to make it look like McNair killed her. She was being criminally poetic rather than staging a double murder.
    But rest of my point still stands: the cops got it right.

  47. methomps says: Jul 8, 2009 6:48 PM

    One more time:
    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20090708/NEWS03/90708043
    While blood contaminated the gunshot residue test, there was trace evidence of residue on her left hand.
    Translation: too much blood on the right hand makes the GSR test inconclusive. It doesn’t mean she shot herself with her left hand.

  48. Indyeagle says: Jul 8, 2009 6:56 PM

    Will someone please explain to me why the media continues to call her his “girlfriend”. I always thought single guys had girlfriends and married men had a “mistress”?
    Is the whole “girlfriend” thing a way of sugarcoating what their relationship really was? Is it because he was a good guy by all other accounts? I’m not throwing stones here, I am just curious.

  49. Zaggs says: Jul 8, 2009 6:56 PM

    BNucky, no thee is nothing fishy going on. Floorboy doesn’t have the balls yto flat out say Norfleet committed the murder because he would get sued for all his worth. But he’ll hint at it all day long.
    You can shoot yourself in the right temple while having gun residue on your left hand if you holding the gun with both hands, left over right or if you simply had a gun that had the ejection port on the right hand side of the gun (which I believe most do). That would put her left hand under the ejection port where most of the residue would be found.

  50. tj.52 says: Jul 8, 2009 6:57 PM

    MkePackFan says: Florio must have stock in a tin foil company.
    Genius…it’s called anger…rage…just because you don’t need more than 1 shot to kill someone doesn’t mean they won’t let their rage take control and go overboard in the shooting department.
    You guys should quit your current jobs and become cops if you think you can do better.
    @MkePackFan:
    If what that girl is accused of doing is what you call anger, you should either be medicated or locked up before anyone makes you angry.
    Putting a gun in the hole in your lovers head that you just made with the same gun on the other side and pulling the trigger again is not “anger” or “rage”. It is definable psychosis.

  51. jeff says: Jul 8, 2009 6:58 PM

    I hate to say it but i’m with florio on this one…something just isn’t right.

  52. Finsbaby says: Jul 8, 2009 7:01 PM

    GRASSY KNOLL! GRASSY KNOLL!
    Assuming Princess Persia killed Affair McNair, which seems most likely, I too am interested in what happened at DUI arrest and purchase of gun. Enquiring minds want to know.

  53. Big Stretch says: Jul 8, 2009 7:04 PM

    FLORIO = D-BAG
    Football news not criminal reporting is what you should be spending your time on.
    PFT/NBC merger will go down as the moment Florio “jumped the shark”

  54. AmhaTek says: Jul 8, 2009 7:04 PM

    I don’t understand you people. There are HUGE and OBVIOUS gaps in this case.
    Someone on here mentioned that if you put your gun in your left hand and shoot the temple you’re shooting the right temple. Are you freaking serious, how stupid is that??? The only way the left hand has residue and the bullet goes in the right temple is if you cross over to the other side. One side of your body is left and the other is the right side, you don’t have your left hand on the same side as your right leg, in order for that to be the case you have to go across your body. That’s the most absurd rebuttal I’ve heard thus far regarding the “conspiracy theory.”
    Then there are those who say she used two hands to shoot McNair then shot her right temple w/ her right hand. Ok wouldn’t that mean there was residue on both hands????
    Another post suggested that she turned her head? WTF??? Who does that when killing themselves? You turn your head in reaction or fear or to protect urself if SOMEONE ELSE is shooting you.
    Someone else suggested that they didn’t reveal the motive for the murder-suicide so they don’t jeopardize the investigation. Was that really necessary if it was a murder-suicide?? If its an obvious case and the suspect is already dead who are you hiding the information from. Makes no sense, it would have made sense if the motive was pointing to someone else then the girl.
    And why is no one bothered by the fact that a girl who just purchased her first gun 2 days ago went 4 for 4. How is she so accurate and how is she so cold blooded (both temples). No shaking (which leads to a stray bullet or two)? No screaming, no last words to the guy that pushed her so far she felt she had to take her life? You’re all right; she just went crazy in 2 days and turned into a cold blooded execution style killer, what were we thinking questioning this!!!
    Who is the source for the purchase of the gun? If its the ex is he really credible? And really the illegal purchase of a gun (or anything illegal for that matter), unless caught on tape or confessed by her, is not the most credible piece of information in my opinion. Who’s credible in this situation? The person selling the illegal gun (doubt it), a friend who thought she was suicidal but didn’t feel the need to intervene (doubt it), or maybe the ex (highly doubt it).
    Another poster had the audacity to question Florio’s analytical skills. Are you serious, he was a lawyer for as long as he was b/c he just had absolutely no analytical skills what-s0-ever. NO YOU ITS YOU THAT DOESN’T HAVE ANY ANALYTICAL SKILLS if you can’t see the gaps in this case.
    And why does everyone want to label this a conspiracy theory just b/c ppl are questioning the conclusion of the police. Like the police don’t make mistakes. IF the police didn’t make mistakes countless GUILTY ppl wouldn’t be getting off on technicalities (OJ). Layers make a living on exposing the mistakes police make. And what’s wrong with questioning something w/o it being a conspiracy theory. Stop being a freaking sheep, you ppl can’t think for yourself. The police said it was a murder-suicide, the headline reads “murder-suicide”, the TV says “murder-suicide” well must be a murder suicide. THINK FOR YOURSELF! TAKE THE FACTS AT HAND, USE SOME LOGIC AND DRAW YOUR OWN CONLUSION.
    And really the only conclusion that Florio, or anyone that agrees with Florio, has arrived at is that this doesn’t add up. None of us know enough to know who did it but I also know enough to know this doesn’t add up to a “murder-suicide” (at least w/o some answers to these questions).
    And please the CSI jokes are so Lame, if you’re not creative or witty maybe you just shouldn’t make jokes (at least in a public forum).
    And you people have to much faith in the police, its healthy to question things, really it is.
    (man i’m gonna be so mad if this exceeds the word limit and my post doesn’t make it)

  55. empty13 says: Jul 8, 2009 7:05 PM

    she shot 2 handed. that’s why those results are what they got.
    but hey, lets chase ghosts!

  56. empty13 says: Jul 8, 2009 7:11 PM

    yes met, those of us who read and understand the human body understand.
    the rest have an avid fantasy life.

  57. BigB says: Jul 8, 2009 7:12 PM

    I know this isn’t related, but this has to be killing Favre. He loves the media, and with all the news on Michael Jackson and Steve McNair, it’s probably driving him crazy that he has to keep postponing his announcement. Once all this quiets down, he will come out and say he’s gunslinging for the Vikes in 2009 and then the media can have him all to themselves!!

  58. wvugrad00 says: Jul 8, 2009 7:12 PM

    let it go florio, just let it go

  59. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 8, 2009 7:17 PM

    # ZN0rseman says: July 8, 2009 6:24 PM
    “The girl he picked was young, hot”
    ——-
    Hot???? Now we know why Vikings fans are always believing their team looks so much better than reality!

  60. Real Football Fan says: Jul 8, 2009 7:18 PM

    Lol, one minute this girl is a crazed lunatic, drunk or high on everything from cocaine to PCP. She’s unstable and filled with rage because after roughly 5 months, he won’t leave his wife for her.
    However, she calmed down enough to blow McNairs brains out from both sides, after pumping his chest full of bullets. Finally, she’s calmed all the way down to want to poetically “fall into his arms” after blowing his head off, contorting her body and tilting her head to achieve this result, all while drunk, high, or in the fit of rage that left mcNair’s head like a busted open pumpkin, all after leaving mcNair’s body in what some of us recognize as an “overkill” state. Furthermore, McNair apparently came right home and fell asleep because after all the cops did say he was sleeping hwhen he was killed, despite witnesses stating that he arrived later than their estimated time of death.
    Where’s the tooth fairy, Santa, and that damned Easter bunny anyway, lol?
    shit’s hilarious because I hear more about his apparent infidelity or that he was tagging a younger woman from those defending this piss poor explanation than their scrutiny of the facts.

  61. Yamaret says: Jul 8, 2009 7:22 PM

    Occam’s razor.
    The girlfriend did it.

  62. AmhaTek says: Jul 8, 2009 7:23 PM

    “Affair McNair”
    Not funny, not clever, just plain classless!
    “Also, a “Great Warrior” doesn’t get snuck up on and shot in his sleep.”
    who do you think McNair is Maximus, you think he sleeps w/ a sword under his pillow??
    You ppl are either f&*’d up or retarded!!

  63. NinerNation says: Jul 8, 2009 7:28 PM

    Florio, give it a rest, it’s over one way or the other. Personally, I will choose to believe the cops, but if you are right, and a professional did it…they’re professionals for a reason. It’s over, let it go. In case you forgot, this site is about football, and constantly discussing murder details is not my idea of a sports site. ESPN has actually been doing stories on players and teams, maybe you should do that.

  64. Lucky5927 says: Jul 8, 2009 7:35 PM

    The majority of these posters are annoying. You bash Florio yet you faithfully read his postings and then take the time to bash him. Florio brings up some valid points. You don’t have to be a detective or a lawyer to figure out things don’t match up. Why would she use her left hand to awkwardly aim a gun to her right temple? She is either right handed or left handed. She is not both. And for you 5 star detectives out there, the autopsy only stated gun powder was found on her left hand, not both hands. Which would eliminate the two-handed gun holding theory. Why would a person who has no experience shooting a gun, shoot McNair in the Temple, then twice in the chest, and then allegedly shoot him in the head again? Someone who is that distraught and emotionally unstable would be too shattered from the first 1-3 shots to all of a sudden feeling brave and calm enough to put the gun to his head for a fourth shot when he was already dead? Next, between the rap song lyrics and the fact her ex was with her when she bought the gun proves he was more involved then he let on and had motive. Also, her friends and family said she was not an aggressive person who would not hurt anyone and now she was suicidal for a week or so? Finally, they expect us to believe that she used her left hand to shoot herself in the right temple and yet somehow she managed to land right on top of the gun when she was standing right next to the couch? That is awfully convenient. In conclusion, in a world where no one is above the capability of corruption (Particularly investigators and police officers), you have to raise suspicion when the pieces to the puzzle just don’t fit. Perhaps, someone just wanted to wrap this up quickly since McNair was so well thought of. The longer the case is open, the more doubts people will have.

  65. empty13 says: Jul 8, 2009 7:36 PM

    lawyers do NOT automatically have analytical skills.
    blood all over the one hand…
    keep dreamin…

  66. Packerhq.net says: Jul 8, 2009 7:45 PM

    Pro Football Talk
    not TMZ Florio. Leave it alone and let them RIP and the family have closure.

  67. FLORIOLEADSWITNESSES says: Jul 8, 2009 7:50 PM

    @AmhaTek says: July 8, 2009 7:04 PM
    I don’t understand you people. There are HUGE and OBVIOUS gaps in this case.
    Someone on here mentioned that if you put your gun in your left hand and shoot the temple you’re shooting the right temple. Are you freaking serious, how stupid is that??? The only way the left hand has residue and the bullet goes in the right temple is if you cross over to the other side. One side of your body is left and the other is the right side, you don’t have your left hand on the same side as your right leg, in order for that to be the case you have to go across your body. That’s the most absurd rebuttal I’ve heard thus far regarding the “conspiracy theory.”
    AmhaTek how many times have you shot yourself in the head. methinks 1 time too many!!!

  68. CowboyJoe says: Jul 8, 2009 7:54 PM

    Of course Florio thinks there is more going on, if the case is solved, what are all the lawyers and bloggers with too much time on their hands going to do? Talk football?

  69. FLORIOLEADSWITNESSES says: Jul 8, 2009 7:56 PM

    @AmhaTek says: July 8, 2009 7:04 PM
    I don’t understand you people. There are HUGE and OBVIOUS gaps in this case.
    Someone on here mentioned that if you put your gun in your left hand and shoot the temple you’re shooting the right temple. Are you freaking serious, how stupid is that??? The only way the left hand has residue and the bullet goes in the right temple is if you cross over to the other side. One side of your body is left and the other is the right side, you don’t have your left hand on the same side as your right leg, in order for that to be the case you have to go across your body. That’s the most absurd rebuttal I’ve heard thus far regarding the “conspiracy theory.”
    AmhaTek how many times have you shot yourself in the head. methinks 1 time too many!!!

  70. Bob S. says: Jul 8, 2009 7:56 PM

    You’re right they tried to do the same on 24 this past season.

  71. Drithe says: Jul 8, 2009 8:01 PM

    Florio reels you guys in and you take the bait. LOL. Classic. Still though, sometimes what you see is what you see. Bottem line is if he would’nt have been cheating on his wife this never would have happened. So sad.
    End of Line.

  72. realityonetwo says: Jul 8, 2009 8:07 PM

    No known motive, residue on the wrong hand and the gun awkwardly under the body…
    Why Mr. Florio, you wouldn’t be suggesting that the real killer pumped a couple of shots into McNair’s head, then shot the Iranian chick in the head, then put the gun in her left hand and squeezed twice into McNair’s chest to make it look like she fired the shots, would you? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm……

  73. Real Football Fan says: Jul 8, 2009 8:09 PM

    I’ve seen the entire press conference, including the Q&A afterward with reporters and took a little time to pull up WGFX 104.5 the Zone online to hear the local sports talk show and their take.
    The police cheif came in and answered peripheral questions from Nashville callers for about an hour. He never stated that they couldn’t get a reading on the right hand due to there being too much blood during either forum. So where are you people putting forth that notion getting it from?

  74. norseman69 says: Jul 8, 2009 8:13 PM

    another murder simply explained, hmmm, this was a ‘hit” by whom we can only speculate… but we all deep down know of only one “organization” capable of doing this!
    I would not want to “bet” on any line here…

  75. MJS says: Jul 8, 2009 8:18 PM

    It’s a woman firing a gun. First few shots fired were most likely with both hands holding the gun. I assume Florio would hold a gun in the same manner. If people can’t figure that out they shouldn’t be writing murder conspiracy stories.
    Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. You never get in trouble when you stick to just doing your wife.

  76. Michael Florio says: Jul 8, 2009 8:30 PM

    For those people suggesting that the police are ‘covering’ something up, or they have not performed their due diligence, could you please identify yourself if you were involved in the investigation, or have intimate knowledge of the evidence.
    If not, shut the hell up and go back to your watching Law & Order in your bedrooms.

  77. sim448 says: Jul 8, 2009 8:35 PM

    i’m sorry, something stinks. this isnt just a murder suicide, because the person who sold her the gun should be an accessory to murder, plain and simple. She didnt have a license for that gun, and she bought it illegally to “kill” Steve McNair. I’m sorry, no way she did this. SHE NEVER SHOT A GUN AND SHE CALMLY CLIPS HIM? NO WAY.

  78. da mad greek says: Jul 8, 2009 8:39 PM

    i guess my wish of trying to understand why a horrific ending to two young people may not be resolved. It doesn’t make sense to me, not enough information. Maybe there is no sense of it. The boyfriend seemed strange the day of the incident to me. I thought i heard a report of him saying she knocked on his door earlier in the day and he spent the rest of the day looking for her?? i don’t know, but I hope there is more information that gets out–i don’t want to think that a girl can seem absolutely fine, or relatively fine, and then fly off the handle like this. I wish it hadn’t had happened.
    and quit bashing on Florio for publicizing the many questions he has on the deaths. I have many as well and I think its very healthy to ask them. I’m not saying the police are “covering up” anything, I just feel either they aren’t telling us everything for some reason (i.e. investigating people, or simply don’t know). Whatever it is I wish it hadn’t happened.

  79. DevastationInc says: Jul 8, 2009 8:39 PM

    @MJS says: July 8, 2009 8:18 PM
    You never get in trouble when you stick to just doing your wife.
    I take it you’re not married?

  80. the_dude says: Jul 8, 2009 8:44 PM

    Okay…so let’s get this straight.
    Those suggesting it wasn’t a murder suicide are suggesting that someone else murdered Steve McNair, then fired one shot through Sahel Kazemi’s head to make it seem like a suicide.
    So this guy (or girl) was clearly a professional when it came to killing. He was able to enter Steve McNair’s apartment without waking McNair up, and shoot McNair while McNair slept on his couch. The shot had to have been a perfect kill shot because the police stated they believe McNair was asleep when killed, so McNair probably didn’t get up and charge at the guy or try to run as this would leave a trail of blood that would make it obvious that McNair was not asleep when killed.
    Second, either Sahel was in the apartment at the time or she wasn’t when said bad hitman executed McNair. If she was, then the hitman had to be adept enough to subdue her (without neighbors hearing screams), put a gun next to her temple, and kill her, all while leaving no signs of struggle in the apartment. If she wasn’t in the apartment, he had to wait for her, and again, put a perfect bullet hole in her right temple either after subduing her or *right* after she walked in and noticed her dead boyfriend.
    Third, this hitman had the presence of mind to take Kazemi’s hand, and fire shots into McNair while holding her hand on the gun. He was also slick enough to lock the door on his way out, and to presumably have a copy of the apartment key in order to be able to do so.
    Also, he was awesome enough to have Kazemi’s gun. I don’t even know how that would happen – maybe he stole it from her to make the crime look that much more perfect. I highly doubt she knew the guy because in light of all of the above facts, this guy was a super experienced cold-blooded killer.
    And he did all of this without leaving any trace that he was in there and without any witnesses seeing him go in. So in short, he’s a hitman among hitmen.
    But for all of his meticulous planning and perfect execution, he forgot to fire the bullet into the same side of Kazemi’s body that he used to fire the shots at McNair.
    So it’s either that, or Kazemi’s right hand was completely ridden with blood making a GSR test impossible, and she used both hands to fire into McNair before killing herself.
    Mr. Florio, I don’t want to be a jerk, but I can see why you gave up your job as a lawyer for journalism. You could look at an orange and say “No, it looks, tastes, and feels too much like an orange. It must be a banana.”

  81. empty13 says: Jul 8, 2009 8:44 PM

    no one ever said it was “calm”. sounds like she was all over the map.

  82. realitypolice says: Jul 8, 2009 8:58 PM

    That’s it. I really thought after the press conference today, all of the conspiracy theorists would go back in their parent’s basements and resume their blogging about Area 51. But from the latest band of posts, it looks like there is no putting these worms back in the can.
    Congratulations, Florio. In the space of 4 days, in what should have been the most glorious period of PFT’s existence with the NBC alliance, you have turned your site from the best source of NFL information on the web into a haven for wackos. You’ve debased the very thing you worked so hard to grow, and frankly, I’m out.
    I’m sure you don’t care- this descent into sensationalism has probably brought you more traffic than ever, and what else would you care about? But for those of us who loved this site, and loved the humorous and thoughtful (and sometimes snarky) banter between the real football-loving posters, it sucks to see this site taken over by the grassy-knollers.
    Good luck, Florio, hope you make lots of money. Just try to avoid mirrors.

  83. swoopnc says: Jul 8, 2009 9:11 PM

    sim448 says: SHE NEVER SHOT A GUN AND SHE CALMLY CLIPS HIM? NO WAY.
    How do you know that she has never shot a gun???

  84. JoeSchmoe says: Jul 8, 2009 9:12 PM

    I’m with Florio here… something is rotten in Denmark.
    Here’s my question. IF there was “too much blood on the right hand to do a GSR”, ummmm…….. wouldn’t there be a whole bunch of blood on the trigger of the gun too? Is it stated that there was anywhere? No way she uses her left (off hand) to pull the trigger at her temple on the right side. Not buying that whatsoever. Even her turning her head… why would she have taken extra effort rather than just shoot her left temple?
    And we’re supposed to believe the Romeo and Juliet-esque ending that this 20 year old planned out? A 20 year old (who isn’t even old enough to have seen the Leo DeCraprio movie version) had such a romantic way about her that this is how she envisioned it would play out? Gimme a friggin break! That’s really one romantic ass love story right there! /sarcasm
    I’m most concerned with the GSR oversight though. Am I missing something there??? Blood on the trigger and handle of the gun might help me believe that a little more. Can I get clarity on that? And the order in which shots are fired don’t add up anyway.
    Something is rotten in Denmark.

  85. kurtz says: Jul 8, 2009 9:19 PM

    A couple things. First, most of you commenters bitching about this story being on the site–get a life. It is interesting to some of us and there is this magic thing on the right side of your browser window. It is called a scroll bar. Use it. Or you can use the down arrow. Or the wheel on your mouse. Or your trackpad. Many options to skip the story. I skip most of the stories that deal with the contracts of 7th round picks, but I don’t bitch that they are on here.
    Second, murder police are under pressure to do their jobs. Their bosses are under pressure to keep the clearance rate above a certain amount. This pressure goes up exponentially when the victim is famous. Also cops are not infallible. They’re not all dirty and opportunistic, but they are not all competent and ethical either.
    Third turning your head to shoot yourself in the temple on the opposite side of your body. What? Give me a break. Dumb. And for the guy who posted “Occam’s Razor,” This explanation seems the simplist to you? Yeah, sure.
    Fourth, one criticism of Florio, motive usually is of little concern to investigators. In this case it would make sense perhaps, but usually they focus on evidence at the scene or from witnesses.
    Fifth, @methomps: ” are just too conditioned from tv and movies to think that minor issues here and there are keys that will unlock a winding and twisting conspiracy of grand proportions.”
    Read a little about murder investigations then speak. Details such as a drinking glass sitting further from the sink than the others have solved crimes. Or the detail in a photo–a dude with black hair had blonde eyebrows. These examples don’t come from TV or movies, but reading. Before you post, make sure you’re not ignorant about the subject you post on.
    Sixth, @MkePackFan. You’re an idiot. Rage/Anger tend to make people shoot inaccurately. The lack of stippling on the wound suggests the shots were fired from further away. As others have brought up, a novice shooter, filled with rage, goes 4/4. Then plans out dying in his lap.
    The official story may be true, but it seems more than fishy enough to question it without getting accused of wearing a “tin foil hat.” Especially with so much shadiness surrounding the woman.

  86. JoeSchmoe says: Jul 8, 2009 9:27 PM

    @ “the_dude”
    What’s so hard to believe about the possibility that she went crying back to her ex who rapped about killing an old man having an affair with a young girl and him then GOING WITH HER UP TO THE APARTMENT (ESCORTED, NOT LIKE A NINJA or “PROFESSIONAL” as you suggest) killing him, and then killing her because she might not have realized that’s what he was actually going to do and she flipped out and he needed to do her in (also out of jealousy because she was bangin’ McNair, not him) and then he left after covering evertything up by squeezing one shot out of her left hand?
    How hard is it really to fathom the simple notion that some smooth talkin rapper wannabe talked his emotional ex-girlfriend into letting him go up to the apartment to help her vent or whatever on McNair by threatening or even simply talking to McNair about how wrong it was for him to leave her at the DUI stop? And all the while he had his own true intentions of following thru on the psychotic mentality that he clearly voiced in his own raps?
    Everyone is acting like you have to be a genius to do this (the ninja killing spree – which is laughable), or a moron to do that (email the Tennessean)… but in reality, this is pretty easy to fathom overall. Why are you all so skeptical?
    NO. WAY. THE. CHICK. DID. IT. PERIOD!

  87. JoeSchmoe says: Jul 8, 2009 9:34 PM

    And how in the world would this girl be soooo angry with McNair over a DUI stop that she wanted to kill him? Over a DUI?
    And on top of that, if she’s sooooo angry that she wants to cap him in the manner that she did… would she really want to clip herself so that when she’s found she wants to be found lying in his lap, because she just loved him soooo much?
    And to all you haters out there who want to say “go back to your day job Florio and you conspiracy theorists”, just because I’m not a cop, doesn’t mean I couldn’t be one. No disrespect to the GOOD law enforcement we have working our cities and streets, but it doesn’t take much to become a cop, so I’m sorry but don’t think that we non-cops have some sort of inferior analytical skills.
    This shizz doesn’t add up man!!!!

  88. Yamaret says: Jul 8, 2009 9:54 PM

    Yes Kurtz, it is the simplest explanation. If it’s not, then what is? Oh yeah, you neglected to enlighten us as to what that might be.
    It was her gun. Residue on her hand. The door is locked from the inside. She was under the impression that McNair was leaving his wife for her but there is no indication that he intended to actually do so. He may well have been breaking it off after the DUI incident. But I don’t know. And neither do you.
    Where are you getting all of your specific details of the crime scene? Have you been there? Are you a criminologist? A detective? Have you interviewed those involved? Do you have some magical insight beyond what has been published in the media?
    Kurtz, you come across as an angry little twerp. Its amusing that you are bitching that other readers are bitching. Bitch, bitch, bitch.
    Regards,
    “The Guy”

  89. Kidekk says: Jul 8, 2009 10:27 PM

    @Ahmatek,
    While I realize that she may have killed herself by using her right hand and that blood that may have covered her right hand would make it hard/impossible to test it, I too was wondering how she would have killed herself with her left hand. I don’t understand why it would be hard for someone to suggest she turned her head and shot herself, considering: a) what makes that action (turning her head) more inconceiveable than her murdering Steve McNair, and then killing herself? You’re ready to rule out something like her turning her head in order to use her left hand when she obviously (given what we know) had some break from reality in order to do what she did? While I don’t believe that she turned her head, to call people stupid or idiotic for suggesting that she might have done that is pretty stupid considering the numer of ways that people have killed themselves throughout history, and the fact that everybody she knew is saying that she wasn’t capable of doing that, yet, just like in many cases, she did do it. So a little detail like her turning her head to shoot her self (which was/is speculation like the majority of things that people are saying on this site) is not really unfathomable considering the scope of what she did (based on the what the police said).

  90. Moosechem says: Jul 8, 2009 10:27 PM

    This tragic story will have legs well past today’s Nashville police update. More details are sure to come out over the next several weeks. None of these details will enhance the reputation of Steve McNair and will only detract from the good guy reputation he had cultivated as a human being. Sad but true but his straying nature with other women (as has been reported) has directly led to his death at 36.
    The tabloids (and Florio of course) will continue to sniff around, hopefully fact check, and postulate their theories at supermarket check-out counters (or this latest News and Rumors Section) . We the readers can believe what we want to believe.
    The bottom line is that irrational (crazy) people do crazy things that sane people can’t possibly fathom. Sexual jealously and/or money problems result in murders and suicide all the time in this country. No different in this case. What caused her to snap? We may never know why but we are free to speculate.
    Reading the threads on Florio’s posts over this murder/suicide since last weekend have been interesting to read including all the wild speculation and conspiracy theories.
    More information is sure to come out. Just wait and see.
    R.I.P. McNair and Kazemi

  91. Eddie Drycleaner says: Jul 8, 2009 10:32 PM

    Good job Mike. You’re absolutely right that a lot of things just don’t make sense about this. Of course somehow we’ve turned into a website of crazy angry commentors. I like how you don’t let them detract you. I will try to not be so sensitive myself.
    Appreciate your passion Mikey!(That’s what she said)

  92. MkePackFan says: Jul 8, 2009 10:39 PM

    People keep saying it’s stupid it’s hard to use your “off-hand” to shoot yourself….there are people who are ambidexterous.
    Second, if you heard the press conference, they think McNair was asleep (he was found on the couch)…hard to miss so toss your “inaccurate shootings” theory.
    Last, why do people think she has no experience with a gun?
    Oh, and finally, with the cops having interviewed friends of hers and those friends saying she was going to “end it all” why is the suicide concept so hard to grasp? Everything points to it…she bought a 2nd hand gun, she found out McNair was seeing another woman (McNair’s wife probably), was in financial hell (they co-bought a car but obviously didn’t pay for all of it or she’s paying the insurance on it – an Escalade), etc….too much facts for this to be waving around wild conspiracy theories.

  93. EShine says: Jul 8, 2009 10:44 PM

    I can’t believe the time I have wasted on this site on this story. Ridiculous.
    I just read on WashingtonPost.com that they have surveilence video from the condo. They would have seen a Keith, his D-Bag friend, or OJ leaving that building.
    What a joke this has become. Just because every question isnt answered like it is on tV doesnt mean the police didnt get it right. THERE WERE NO WITNESSES DURING THE INCIDENT, SO THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.
    Maybe the world should turn into 1984 so you jackasses can sleep better at night knowing that Big Brother knows everything that goes on.

  94. Winston Wolfe says: Jul 8, 2009 10:44 PM

    The answer is simple, if she was facing McNair when she shot him in the right temple, it was likely done with her left hand. It would be very awkward when facing a person to shoot them in the right temple with your right hand. And that would explain the residue on the left hand.

  95. Titans1000 says: Jul 8, 2009 11:17 PM

    Oh really she was going to “end it all.” LMAO. Really for 3 or 4 days they say they will never really know why this happened and had no motive to go and then all of a sudden these people come out the wood-work to tell the cops well yeah she did mention she wanted to kill herself. lol YEAH RIGHT. As soon as someone says they wanted to , “end it all.” I would have taken their word and had it ruled a murder-suicide from the get-go, forget tests!! There’s our motive but cops didnt do that did they? They werent sure. Maybe she meant end it all with McNair and leave him the boyfriend did mention that she had thoughts of going back to him… just a thought.

  96. titansfan78 says: Jul 8, 2009 11:18 PM

    GOD BLESS YOU MIKE FLORIO. The local police have botched this investigation from the start and now they want the publicity to go away. The biggest mistake they make is they believe everything people tell them. The ex boyfriend says “closed casket” isnt about mcnair and they believe him. The guys who found the bodies said they panicked and forgot the number for “911” and they believe them too. You asked important questions and the police dont want to give the public any answers.
    They should have never let the ex boyfriend leave the first time he came to the cops. They also needed to ask the two men who beat the cops there why it took so long to call. What did they remove from the house before the cops could show up? Maybe they took away a suicide note. Why are they protecting the indentity of the gun seller? He feels like it was a legal sell and its his right to carry and sell so he should want the extra business his name being released would offer.

  97. Real Football Fan says: Jul 9, 2009 12:14 AM

    i’d also like to know who the friends are putting forth the notion that she was suicidal. Again, listening to WGFX in nashville, only the opposite has been put forth by local observers, even some of those witness to the two of them around town and/or friendly with kazemi. One chick even said that she works at one of Kazemi’s former places of employ with many friends of kazemi and spoke with her less than 3 weeks earlier when they came into that restaurant during the middle of the day. Only the opposite about the woman’s mind state kept coming through these people calling in.
    so who are these people contradicting all the accounts I heard locally? Northfleet? I hope he wasn’t the “people” telling the cops that she was spinning out of control. Clearly, he has some feminine tendencies judging from his inability to get over this woman, continuing to remain heavily involved with a woman that wasn’t exclusive to him anymore and sending that bizarre e-mail to the local media.

  98. Tungs says: Jul 9, 2009 12:17 AM

    I wouldn’t put it past the Chief of Police Serpas of not wanting to investigate further. He has covered up a few issues that his son has run into here in Nashville. One of them being a DUI I think. The officers that I know and have spoken to don’t care for him. They expected him to be removed when the new mayor was elected, but that never happened.

  99. snoopysnoopy says: Jul 9, 2009 12:22 AM

    The girl didn’t kill anyone. This is another case of the cops trying to pin it someone who can’t speak for themself.
    You don’t shoot yourself in the right temple with your left hand.
    You don’t wait nearly an hour to call cops after you find dead people (unless there is something you need to hide first)
    You don’t shoot five rounds from a high powered pistol and no one in the condo complex hears a thing.
    COP LIE. OFTEN TO COVER THEIR OWN SCREW-UPS.

  100. rpf2701 says: Jul 9, 2009 12:35 AM

    What could have so terrified Kazemi on Thursday night to the point of putting a gun to the head of a sleeping man?

  101. Lucky5927 says: Jul 9, 2009 12:54 AM

    Legal sells do not happen in parking lots.

  102. cromartie says: Jul 9, 2009 4:01 AM

    There’s no sign anywhere on Dave and Buster’s property that says “Buy a Gun Here”.
    Nonsense, Florio. In Tennessee, a gun at Dave and Busters is only what, 1100 tickets?

  103. -RoNiN- says: Jul 9, 2009 10:26 AM

    Hey Florio.. check the usage on the “realitypolice” account.. i’m willing to bet the “im out” comment was just an empty threat.. when you confirm that it was.. call him out on it!! Like a damn kid threatening to hold their breath forever!! LOL

  104. texasPHINSfan says: Jul 9, 2009 11:40 AM

    i’m with you florio. something doesn’t smell right. if she was filled with strange thoughts & was suicidal, that doesn’t explain the manner/method McNair was shot (seemed to be more methodical, less passion-filled), and the way she was shot (right temple? gun residue on left hand? and she was right handed?)
    too many things don’t add up. i’m guessing the police have no proof of any other scenario and are reluctant to leave it unsolved? technically the proof is that she did it i guess, but i don’t know if i buy that. too much stink around this one

  105. Mike K says: Jul 9, 2009 12:18 PM

    Wow, Florio…maybe you could actually watch this stuff instead of just making sh** up based off of rumor and fantasy.
    BTW…left hand – right forehead:
    Left hand used to stabilize shaky/weak right hand. Trigger pulled with either left thumb or more likely right index. Nothing suspicious…no magic bullet…just an immature, jealous, possibly alcohol/drug impaired woman. Also firing 3 additional times into an already dead body is fairly “passionate”.

  106. Paul_R. says: Jul 9, 2009 12:19 PM

    A couple of days ago, the police spokesman said that the police were “communicating with the internet companies” about the Jett Jackson MySpace page that showed a “last log in” date of July 2, but which also had the “R.I.P. Sahel Kazemi” message.
    Websites and all of their associated files are stored on servers, all of which have an internal clock. No matter what time and date someone else’s computer may have, the time and date of the server will be recorded when that server is accessed. Servers do not access the time and date of the device that is accessing it.
    I cannot intentionally change the time and date on my computer, access MySpace (or any other website) and have it record the incorrect date and time of my computer. It is not possible.
    The police, in order to “communicate” with MySpace, must get a subpoena from a judge. That gives the police the legal right to contact a company and request files and/or other information. So, for the Nashville police department to communicate with MySpace or other companies, they must have gone to a judge and received the subpoena. Yet, they have not spoken about this. What was the result of their request? What information was provided?
    Next, Norfleet has proven that he is an insecure, jealous, and angry person. While Kazemi showed that she could leave him, he has shown that he cannot let go of her. As was brought out, it got to a point in January where she felt that she needed to call 911 against him. He finds her in the hours after she was arrested for the DUI and bailed out by McNair. She was arrested between 1:00 A.M. and 1:30 A.M. on Thursday, July 2. Being bailed out doesn’t happen 15 minutes later. It could take two or more hours or even longer.
    She is bailed out, probably sometime after 3:00 A.M. on Thursday by McNair. What happened next? Common sense would say that he brought her home to the condo. Maybe afterwards he fell asleep. But, obviously, she didn’t. Did she call Norfleet later? Or, was he just “in the neighborhood” and dropped by? He sent an email to one of the newspapers after the DUI. What time was that sent? From which computer was it sent?
    She, obviously, leaves the condo and goes to Dave and Busters to meet the person who sells her the gun. Where is Norfleet during this time? If she was with him in the hours after she was bailed out of jail, did he leave her at the condo or go somewhere else with her and then leave? And, who is awake and taking a call from someone in the early hours of Thursday morning and then willing to meet that person at Dave and Busters and, coincidently, also has a gun with him/her that he/she can sell to Kazemi on the spot?
    It may be that Kazemi killed McNair. But, these are still questions that haven’t been answered. And, all of these things take time. If she’s arrested a short time after 1:00 A.M., she could be bailed out sometime after 2:00 A.M. But, this also depends on how long it takes for them to get her to the police station and process her. Meanwhile, McNair takes a taxi home. He was also under the influence. But, he bails her out. Did he drive or was he driven there by a friend or take a taxi? The police would likely not release her into his custody if he were still intoxicated.
    So, how long does it take for this process of her being arrested and subsequently bailed out by McNair? Then, going back to the condo, Kazemi meeting Norfleet, how long they were together, her calling the unnamed gun seller and meeting him/her at Dave and Busters. Was this at 4:00 or 5:00 or 6:00 A.M.? What was the reason this person was willing to go out and meet Kazemi at such an hour?
    Kazemi buys a gun. Did she buy bullets for it at the same time? If she has a loaded gun, why didn’t she kill McNair after she returned to the condo after she bought the gun? Or, did she go to a gun store and buy bullets? If it is illegal for a dealer to sell a gun to someone under the age of 21, is it also illegal to sell bullets to someone under the age of 21? What will the police reveal and do about this gun seller?

  107. Paul_R. says: Jul 9, 2009 10:18 PM

    Hey Florio! The police said that they believe McNair was asleep when he was shot. But, what time was it that his friend Crow arranged a ride home for him from the Blue Moon Lagoon?
    http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/friends-paint-picture-mcnair-s-final-hours
    “One of those in attendance at Blue Moon Lagoon was McNair’s close friend Doug Crow. Crow is co-owner of popular Nashville restaurants, including The Crow’s Nest, The Corner Pub in the Woods, The Alley and Dalton’s in Bellevue and The Corner Pub in Midtown.
    Multiple attempts to reach Crow have been unsuccessful and friends tell NashvillePost.com that he has been “shattered” by the loss of what they called “his best friend Steve McNair.”
    Sources say that when McNair finally left the Blue Moon Lagoon in the early hours of July 4, Crow had a driver take McNair home. They say that the driver took McNair home alone.”
    _________________________
    What time does the police think McNair was killed? Did he go home and just fall asleep?
    _________________________
    http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bal-md.sp.mcnairjul07,0,6421648.story
    “A witness saw McNair arrive at the condo between 1:30 a.m. and 2 a.m. Saturday and that Kazemi’s Escalade was there.”
    _________________________
    Florio, I think I read somewhere where they estimated the time of death, but I don’t recall where. Maybe you can find it.

  108. northstars says: Jul 13, 2009 3:38 AM

    thanks, florio for telling it like it is. these morons on this site swallow every thing they hear hook , line, and sinker. that cop is guilty as sin

  109. anton_chigur says: Jul 17, 2009 5:20 AM

    flOREO,
    I know that is has become popular to blame George Bush for anything bad that happens so I am waiting for you to put this one on him…
    That would make as much sense as the rest of your conspiracy theory…

  110. anton_chigur says: Jul 20, 2009 4:18 PM

    snoopysnoopy says:
    July 9, 2009 12:22 AM
    The girl didn’t kill anyone. This is another case of the cops trying to pin it someone who can’t speak for themself.
    ——————-
    You might want to stick to playing your piano and avoid playing private DICK…

  111. anton_chigur says: Jul 20, 2009 4:27 PM

    mjq says:
    July 8, 2009 5:56 PM
    A. What am i missing?
    B. I haven’t seen the crime scene.
    ——————————-
    Answer A. your brain….
    Comment B. wow that’s shocking because I would have expected the NPD to invite a world-renowned investigator like you to come right over and help them solve this highly complex case….You idiot…

  112. anton_chigur says: Jul 20, 2009 4:34 PM

    northstars says:
    July 13, 2009 3:38 AM
    thanks, florio for telling it like it is. these morons on this site swallow every thing they hear hook , line, and sinker. that cop is guilty as sin
    ———————————————–
    First of all you Texazz idiot get off of flOREO’s nut sack and second of all, stick to what you know best – bussing tables at Denny’s – and leave solving crimes to the police…

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