Comments on: Police: McNair Death Officially Ruled Murder-Suicide

By: Mike K

Mike K — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:26:33 +0000

GangGreenPhan…
Yep, I know. I just also know plenty of lawyers who do not have this particular predilection.

By: texasPHINSfan

texasPHINSfan — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:49:04 +0000

i don’t know. if you’ve ever been suicidal, you’d know that you’re also very much *not* homicidal….

By: lurker316

lurker316 — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:41:29 +0000

She was NOT too young to legally buy a handgun from a dude in the parking lot. Federal law (18 USC 44, i.e. the Gun Control Act of 1968) requires you to be only 18 or older to buy a handgun from a private citizen. It’s confusing because the same law requires you to be 21 or older to buy a handgun from a licensed gun store. I realize that’s weird and it doesn’t make sense to have two different age requirments for the purchaser, depending on the seller, but I guaranty that it’s true. Look it up.

By: ihateskelator

ihateskelator — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:13:31 +0000

Isn’t ‘Lil Napoleon Florio a lefty? All men under 5 feet tall are lefty’s.
So, to get past the gun powder test allyou need is a bunch of blood?
So noted.

By: empty13

empty13 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:37:46 +0000

skf, mcnair wasnt thinking with the correct head.

By: empty13

empty13 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:09:23 +0000

she used 2 hands. on the gun.
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recent news tale about an oriental bidnessman… he had 5 mistresses… biz was bad so he had to cut costs – and let one mistress go.
they had a beauty pageant. talent contest. whole 9 yards. the old one lost.
then she graciously offered to take them all out for dinner. they accepted. then she drove them all off a cliff. all dead.
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but. kennedy WAS shot from the front, ie, the knoll.

By: RichinMN

RichinMN — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:54:13 +0000

Conspiracy theorists always thrive on the uninformed (and they themselves are uninformed). Listen to the press conference.

Her right hand was untestable for residue – it was covered with too much blood

By: smilergrogan

smilergrogan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:48:04 +0000

penrod: the answer to your last question is that almost everyone knows someone that is or has been a mistress. no one i know, however, knows any mistresses or former mistresses packing heat and using same.

By: Nard100

Nard100 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:40:05 +0000

Totally called it yesterday.

By: GangGreenPhan

GangGreenPhan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:14:27 +0000

Mike K said: If you’re new to to this site, NBC readers, you’ll quickly find out that Florio thinks that if you’re a cop, you’re wrong.
You do know he’s a lawyer right?

By: Raiders757

Raiders757 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:11:58 +0000

@ Action Dan
Nobody is going to turn their head so they can shoot themselves in the right temple with their left had.
A likely explanation, is that she used both hands at some point when shooting McNair. Hence gunshot residue getting on her left hand. She more than likely shot herself in the right temple with her right hand.
She probably had GSR on both hands, but the residue on the left hand came out more conclusive than the right during the lab analysis. It’s not as easy as CSI makes it look, when determining GSR.

By: penrod814

penrod814 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:02:59 +0000

Or maybe……she held the gun with her right hand, braced the barrel with her left, (she is a female with her first time handling a firearm) and pulled the trigger leaving the resin on her left hand.
Why is it so hard to believe that a 20-year-old female who is demented enough to be a mistress can also be crazy enough to pull off something like this?!?!

By: Dryheave

Dryheave — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:02:58 +0000

enough of this foolishness, let’s get back to spygate

By: MkePackFan

MkePackFan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:54:34 +0000

Oh and yeah…jeez, more conspiracy theories are much better than believing a woman is incapable of acting crazy…

By: Kidekk

Kidekk — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:51:46 +0000

Action Dan, you just made me feel real stupid. In my attempts to figure out how it was done, not once did I think of turning my head, which would make sense if she wanted McNair to be the last thing she saw considering she was seated next to him (if she was in fact seated to the right of him when she pulled the trigger). Again, thanks for making me feel like an idiot.

By: MkePackFan

MkePackFan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:47:56 +0000

Well Undersherriff Florio & his gang of rambling, idiotic deputies, you can turn in your paper badges in with the receptionist.
I guess a 20 year old woman can put 4 shots into a man without Navy SEAL training after all…especially when that man is asleep and the 1st shot is to the temple.

By: DFWTMILLAW

DFWTMILLAW — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:43:23 +0000

My guess is she did not put the gun to either temple….. She wanted to fall into McNairs lap so she held the gun out in front of her with her left hand and aimed at her forehead…. the trigger pull of an inexperience shooter (ie jerking..not squeeeeeeezing) would have resulted in a shot to the right side of the head.
Of course if you tell me she is right handed then I might have an issue with the scenario.

By: Real Football Fan

Real Football Fan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:40:50 +0000

The presence of residue on the left hand despite the kill shot on the woman being on the opposite side of her head is just one of those tiny details that police departments often ignore in favor of closing a case. Not to mention all of the bullets fired but only leaving a “trace” of residue on her left hand?
And let’s leave out that they estimated the times of death between 1-1:30 AM, although witnesses stated seeing McNair arrive later than that. however, don’t let facts get in the way of tying up a case so everybody can go home.
Unfortunately, this kind of work is far too common in this country instead of being a rarity.
There’s a higher authority the murderer(s) will have to answer to for their indiscretions. Today’s findings only assured me that they were murdered.

By: LightningLucci

LightningLucci — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:39:56 +0000

Mav69r:
“Sounds like a sports Shakespearean tragedy.”
Beat me to it. Sounds like she was trying to pull a Juliet there.
But Juliet used poison. Like most women do…or used to do?

By: Action Dan

Action Dan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:35:12 +0000

By turning your head to the left, it’s pretty damn easy to shoot yourself in the right temple using your left hand.
If she’s left-handed (Never trust a leftie), this is a non-issue.

By: Kidekk

Kidekk — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:24:59 +0000

As usual, another writer posts the story that debunks Florio’s thought. But, I still, like Florio, find things out of whack when GSR (I watch CSI, so I can call it GSR) is found on her left hand but the bullet went through her right temple. Maybe it is somehow possible, and if she was that mentally distressed, that she had the frame of mind (since she may have been out of it) to think of shooting herself in a way that no one would think of. You would think that they would mention they found GSR on the right hand as well. Moreover, in the 30 minutes it took for the guy to call the police (if he was even the 0ne who called the police) what else did he do besides just moving one of the shell casings? Moreover, why would you move one of the shell casings (unless he accidentally just kicked it somewhere)? It’s one of those murder mysteries that Dateline or 20/20 is going to do a piece on down the line assuming no more details come out.

By: HawgNSonsTV

HawgNSonsTV — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:22:22 +0000

The conclusion…. NEVER TRUST an IRANIAN!

By: DoomsDayD75

DoomsDayD75 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:21:06 +0000

I too wonder how you would shoot yourself in the right temple with your left hand. And why she had to shoot someone who was asleep 5 times, especially if he wasn’t resisting. but on the other hand, the bitch was obviously out of her god damn mind, so who the hell knows what she was thinking.

By: longrodvanhungendong

longrodvanhungendong — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:16:51 +0000

Wel Florio, you can go back to at least two Favre articles a day now. The milk has run dry on this story. Although I’m sure he held off his signing with the Vikes due to this tragedy…..

By: Mike K

Mike K — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:16:51 +0000

Like I said earlier, now the Perez Hilton of football (hopefully) closes his “conspiracy” story with a whimper.
He will not apologize to the cop or to the ex-boyfriend who he so readily disparaged and insinuated to have had involvement. He doesn’t have the class nor the nuts. If you’re new to to this site, NBC readers, you’ll quickly find out that Florio thinks that if you’re a cop, you’re wrong.

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:16:49 +0000

“Gunpowder residue on the left hand and you shoot yourself in the right temple ? How does that work ? I guess if your ex is there to give you support to shoot Mcnair and then consoling you afterwards he puts one through your head, then removes the silencer, lays the gun under the body and leaves to dispose of the silencer and, of course ,the glove or gloves he used, I guess thats how. Then again, maybe not.”
Really? That retarded psuedo-rapper who can’t spell or speak coherently:
a) staged that elaborate scene and;
b) had a SILENCER?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?
“give you support to shoot mcnair”? What is he, her “death coach”?
My God- GET HELP!

By: realitypolice

realitypolice — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:08:52 +0000

He obviously misspoke or something was left out. Don’t you think a damn forensic expert would know someone couldn’t shoot themselves in the right temple with their left hand? If this was some sort of elaborate conspiracy, wouldn’t they lie better than that?
There’s no stopping a conspiracy theorist, I guess.

By: MaddBearFan

MaddBearFan — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:08:01 +0000

Sounds like Mr. McNair was a regular Hound Doggie. You play with fire and you ain’t a fireman, you’ll likely get burned.

By: swoopnc

swoopnc — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:58:37 +0000

What, no paragraph at the end on how much this doesn’t add up???? Oh well, training camp starts soon so you can get back to your day job.

By: Voyager6

Voyager6 — Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:56:30 +0000

gunpowder residue on her fingerPRINTS?
How about fingertips? or Fingers? Her fingerprints could be on a glass in another room!