When we saw the article in the New York Daily News reporting that the late Steve McNair had a six-year affair with a Minneapolis stripper, our first instinct was to ignore it completely.
If it were reported by a publication other than one of the major dailies in the largest media market in the world, we would have.
Why, Daily News, did you have to feel compelled to sully McNair’s memory on the day between his Nashville-area memorial service and his Mississippi funeral?
It would be different, we suppose, if the source for the report had opted to go on the record. But the article relies on the tale being told solely by the unnamed business manager of the strip club at which the woman worked. There was no comment from the woman, and no reference of any attempt to reach her.
Surely, the story could have been held at least until Monday.
Look, the fact that McNair was openly dating a 20-year-old woman in the town where his wife lives suggests that it wasn’t the only time he strayed from his marital vows. So uncovering the apparent fact that he had a girlfriend in another city isn’t exactly Watergate-level reporting.
Thus, we think that Michael O’Keeffe and/or his editor(s) should have exercised some discretion on this one. It’s not going secure a Pulitzer, but it fairly should trigger a healthy dose of criticism for the gratuitous attempt to sells newspapers and generate page views by wedging a largely irrelevant story into the national conversation before the public’s attention migrates to other topics next week.
Why should Steve McNair be any different than Michael Jackson?
Yes I agree…… but it sounds funny comming from Florio.
No big deal in my eyes, I doubted this was this was his first rodeo. When you die in the spolight, both good and bad are reported.
This story rings a little hollow when you go back and look at all that this site has reported on concerning McNair’s death. Not all of the items this site brought up were particularly necessary, ordid much more that speculate- such as “Kazemi Previously Called 911 On Norfleet” and “So Why Did Kazemi Buy A Gun?”.
This site is at its best examining legal issues, monetary/contract issues, and reporting the NFL latest news. Given some of one-sided commentary passed off as reporting, frequent character assassinations and the “humorous” photos found on this site, your moral high ground is a little small.
Don’t you think we should know who these guys really are before we canonize them? McNair left behind four sons because of his philandering. For a good angle of this read Jason Whitlock.
When has the media ever shown any restraint?
It fits right in with all the coverage that has been given thus far, including your own.
Pot meet Kettle.
what can you say? dude was a player on and off the field.
oh NOW Florio wants to get all high and mighty on this topic.
This is a bunch of BS coming from someone who is still pursuing the girl’s ex-boyfriend as a story lead.
Florio is lecturing someone else on hyping needless drama in an attempt to gain attention/page views????
Holy Hypocrite, Batman!!
Hypocrisy much, Florio? Take a look back over all the sordid details you breathlessly posted about McNair’s life during his murder investigation.
Personally, the NY Daily News story doesn’t bother me. McNair was a public figure who died at the hands of his deranged half-his-age mistress. Consider the circumstances surrounding his death, it’s not entirely inappropriate to document other sexual liaisons similar to those contributing to the man’s death.
Oh, and by the way, let’s take a look at the NFL penitentiary scoreboard:
Vick for killing dogs = 23 months
Stallworth for killing humans = 1 month (actually 24 days, but who’s counting?)
God bless our judicial system.
You sound butt hurt you didn’t break it!
so let me get this straight Florio. you are critizing a news publication for printing a story that is essentially hearsay and speculation.
didn’t you spend a week speculating that professional killers conspired to commit a double murder and stage it to look like a murder-suicide? there was also you stating the Nashville PD wasn’t doing enough as far as looking at the ex-boyfriend as a suspect based on a crappy rap song as your evidence that he was the culprit.
seriously how can you critize the the Daily News when you are guilty of doing the same thing?
Florio is a moron his website is best when he keeps his personal feelings out and just reports.
Look who got religion.
I might take your conversion seriously if you had not included a link to the offending article.
Hypocrisy much, Florio? Take a look back over all the sordid details you breathlessly posted about McNair’s life during his murder investigation.
Personally, the NY Daily News story doesn’t bother me. McNair was a public figure who died at the hands of his deranged half-his-age mistress. Consider the circumstances surrounding his death, it’s not entirely inappropriate to document other sexual liaisons similar to those contributing to the man’s death.
Oh, and by the way, let’s take a look at the NFL penitentiary scoreboard:
Vick for killing dogs = 23 months
Stallworth for killing humans = 1 month (actually 24 days, but who’s counting?)
God bless our judicial system.
Next Florio will have a video posted where he is crying saying “Leave McNair alone!” like that kid had crying about leaving Britney alone.
Stallworth’s ACCIDENT was a nights bad judgement.
Vick’s interstate crimes covered years.
Thank God for our judicial system. Working just fine.
JoaquinFenix says:
Oh, and by the way, let’s take a look at the NFL penitentiary scoreboard:
Vick for killing dogs = 23 months
Stallworth for killing humans = 1 month (actually 24 days, but who’s counting?)
God bless our judicial system.
dude you have to remember that the judge saw video of Reyes running across the street to get the bus, not at an intersection or designated crosswalk and on a part of the road that has reduced visibility in the morning with the sun shining directly into drivers eyes. it was a tragic thing to happen, but all the blame does not rest with Stallworth, Mr. Reyes took his life into his hands in crossing where it’s not permitted. I’m sure he wasn’t thinking about that at the time he did it, but he bears some of the responsiblity for the accident that took his life.
They probably were not even aware of when the two services were held and didn’t care. I agree though, the timing sucks.
On another note:
“It’s not going secure a Pulitzer, but it fairly should trigger a healthy dose of criticism for the gratuitous attempt to sells newspapers and generate page views by wedging a largely irrelevant story into the national conversation before the public’s attention migrates to other topics next week.”
I see that the move has not resulted in any new editing of your work, Florio.
First, no paper should reporting innuendo. Steve McNair sinned by having an affair, we all know that. This hurt his family. However, he was a victim of murder. Steve was a sinner like the rest of us and hopefully he believe in Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of all his sins.
JoaquinFenix, you make a great point about Vick and Stallworth. While Vick deliberately participated albeit indirectly in dog fighting/killing, Stallworth’s negligent behavior cost a man his life. Dogs and human lifes are not comparable. Stallworth should of been punished according to manslaughter laws. At least, he can never drive legally again.
I finally figured out why I could not log out…..
I had to delete my old PFT in bookmarks and start anew.
He’ll, I thought NBC was following me to other sites, fu***** pervy azz station.
I thought Florio wrote,we could still use are old bookmark,Oh fu***** well,Its fixed now I hope.
Had to get away from the old Hamster-wheel thing a magiggy.
Steve shouldve taken some key tips from the great Wilt Chamberlain… hit it, and quit it.
Part of me says “Why should it wait?” He is getting credit for his play on the field, and his work in the community. I think it is fair game to expose the fact that he was cheating on his family. After all he was sleeping with a little girl only a few years older than his oldest son.
Then of course I think about how embarrassing this must be for his sons/wife. It is one thing to find out that your parent/spouse was a part time scoundrel…it is entirely another for every one else to know too.
Wait, so when you posted a story and basically called Vontae Davis a thug and a hoodlum (implied by your referencing to what Bill Parcells said), you were doing what? And when you didn’t even post a retraction yourself, but another writer, as always, had to post the correction, it showed that you can admit when you are wrong? Most of all, the fact that most of what you write is pure conjecture doesn’t make you any less guilty of what you’re chastising the Daily News for doing. Especially when you post stories that leave out major details in order to present them the way you want to.
It’s a cliche, but it’s true: Fame is a double-edged sword.
On one hand, you get the money, the toys, the women (oops!), and the undying affection of borderline-pathetic “fans” who get their thrills by living vicariously through their “heroes”.
On the other hand, you run the risk of getting scrutinized to the nth degree.
Regardless of what you think of the Daily News “report”, one thing remains clear: if McNair had remained true to his marital vows, he would still be alive. I realize that’s hard for many of today’s immoral/amoral youth to digest, but it’s a fact.
P.S. Florio, your criticism of the Daily News’ “tactics” is laughable at best, and hypocritical at worst. Just stick to the rumor-mongering; it’s what you do best.
Are you freaking sh#*ing me? Why on gods green earth is their this out pouring of support to NOT expose the personal affairs of Steve McNair? The media did whatever they could do rip Sarah Palin’s young child, because she got pregnant, and now people are worried about an adulterous exNFLers reputation. This is not the only example just a very current one. It should be an embarrassment for all those supporting this ridiculous idea that we should tread lightly with McNair.
JoaquinFenix, the next time someone runs infront of you car and you hit or almost hit them, or if someone cuts you off while driving, don’t be mad at them because it’s your fault whenever someone decides to be careless with their life and leave the responsibility of their well being to others.
JoaquinFenix said: “Vick for killing dogs = 23 months”
I can’t remember any other topic that brought out so many opinions from people who don’t actually know the facts. Here’s an important one:
Vick was not imprisoned for killing dogs.
MEDIA:
Michael Jackson alive – disgrace
Michael Jackson dead – cultural icon
Steve McNair alive – good football player
Steve McNair dead – bad father, womanizer, yadda yadda..what else have you read?
?????
I work a lot, so maybe I missed something, but when did all this get backwards? Why is it all things good about MJ, and all things bad about McNair? I’m sure McNair had his personal issues like every single other human being in the world, but NO ONE had issues like Jackson. And not just issues – suspected of child molesting. I have really grown to freaking HATE the media and the way they spin people. Way WAY too much power.
Children should be allowed to bury a parent without hearing what a POS he/she was. But for Florio to wag his finger is like a crack whore giving a meth whore a stern lecture. It’s so hypocritical it’s laughable.
Any chance we can get Joaquin to post that comment another 2 or 3 times, in case we missed it the first 2 times?
Side note, since most people dont want to actually figure it out. Vick has never been punished for “killing dogs”. I will repeat, Vick has never been punished for killing dogs. Why let facts get into the way of your bias.
Vick is in jail for violating interstate gambling laws, tax fraud, etc. The deaths of the dogs, and the disgusting ways that they died, didnt have anything to do with it
florio=hypocrite
Wow!!–This guy got more tail than Sinatra…
If it’s news, it should be reported. The only person at fault is Steve McNair himself. All of his supporters keep saying that they’ll “remember for him for what he did on the field and what kind of teammate he was”. Personally, if I were to die suddenly, I’d rather have my family’s respect than my coworkers.
Actions and consequences…simple as that. If you lead the life of unfaithfulness to your spouse, be prepared to deal with people finding out. The reason it’s a story to begin with is that McNair represented himself as Mr. Community Service and Mr. Good Guy. If that’s not the honest truth, then the record should be set straight instead of blowing smoke up everybody’s rear end.
Michael Jackson raped little children Mcnair did not. Is it worse to cheat on your wife or rape little children? It’s not even close. Everybody putting MJ on a pedestal is an idiot.
Let me get this straight, Florio is questioning someone ELSE’S journalistic integrity?
Wow.
This coming from someone who had Norfleet practically pulling the trigger?
it will happen. this isnt the 1st time mcnair was a “playa”. bet on it.
Florio, this is truly pathetic coming from you.
It is the media’s job to be rude, hurtful etc… I think it would be great if for one day there was no newspaper, no news in other words no freakin media. Again for all this people who say Michael did such horrible things to children, show me your proof IDIOT!
I disagree w/ Florio on this – if McNair didn’t want this exposed, he should kept his pants on. This was completely avoidable bad press.
And if McNair’s wife wanted to avoid negative publicity, she could have left him the first time she caught him cheating. What example is she teaching her kids? Stay w/ your spouse if he/she openly, repeatedly cheats on you (allegedly)?
I think McNair has been lucky to avoid more criticism than he has recv’d. None of this would have happened if he didn’t have a 20 year old girlfriend on the side.
Hey Mike,
Aren’t you being a little bit of a hypocrit here? Nobody sullied McNair other than McNair and if you idiots didn’t put humans on suc a pedastal because they can play football, this crap wouldn’t even get any air time at all. so whether it be Minneapolis or you, trying to find readers by sensationalizing either his antics or your search for hidden agendas by other media outlets, it is all trivial. He sullied himself, no he deficated all over himself and i am not sorry to say so. He was a human being whose credibility, integrity, trustworthiness and sincerity are all diminished by his own actions.
I don’t care what anyone says, MJ was a freak and child molester (and that trumps EVERYTHING)–remember the kid who could actually testify about distinguishing features of MJ’s junk, and the ensuing (undisclosed, of course), out of court settlement?
So spare me any “alleged” baloney.
The media is disgustingly out of control in this country–a stake was driven through the weakly-pumping heart of journalistic integrity back during the last Presidential election, but no one seemed to notice.
The fact that a paper can print any sh1t it wants to based on un-named sources is like Exhibit Z in the argument that the media is out of control in this country.
Still, just because the media is full of phony, disingenuous, immoral, (liberal) agenda-driven, sleazebag vultures, sycophants, copycats, sensationlists and hypocrites, it doesn’t exonerate McNair’s behavior in ANY way.
Vick is a scumbag no matter how you slice it. He ran an enormous, pre-meditated criminal enterprise for YEARS, then lied about it.
(Not to mention he was always over-rated as a player).
Stallworth, on the other hand, was guilty of ONE night of poor judgement, and a tragedy ensued.
From what I’ve heard, the affected family just wanted money more than a lengthy sentence, which is exactly what they got.
Should he have served more time? My own inner sense of justice says probably–but I don’t know ALL the particulars of the case, including how much Stall paid, the extent of his guilt, the continuing impcat on the rest of HIS life.
He may be doomed to a living hell, for all we know (then again, so might that family…even though it’ll be a wealthy-hell).
Finally, Florio takes hypocrisy to a new art–but the truth is–I love it.
LOVE the rumor-mongering. Could do without the bias, though.
To summarize:
1. MJ = pedophile scumbag
2. Media = disgustingly out of control, no accountability or decency
3. McNair = horndog scumbag
4. Vick = lying criminal scumbag
5. Stallworth = dumb
6. Dead guy = dumb
7. Florio = hypocritical biased rumor-mongering hack.
Thus ends my positive synopsis/rant.
I am not a religious person by any stretch, but it is in times like these where this statement fits quite well:
“Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone.”
McNair cheated on his wife many times. Morally reprehensible? Yes. That still does not erase the fact in other areas of life he was generous and kind. It is what it is. No one’s perfect. Hopefully people will be able to learn from this tragedy.
@Fenix & Trey -
So, I’m not sure who’s worse – Fenix for stating that Vick’s crimes were not abhorrent, heinous, and effusive – or Trey for blindly agreeing with him. Vick was just as much a murderer as Jeffrey Dahmer – making murder a game with innocent victims. Stallworth was the victim of unfortunate circumstances. Did he willfully drink and drive? Yes. Did he kill a pedestrian who worked the late shift and was heading home to his loving family? Absolutely. Was he punished? Yes – and will continue to be. With Goodell’s new harsh stance on crimes off the field, Stallworth will probably be looking at a two year suspension (the duration of his probation). Take into account the financial settlement and monies lost for not playing – and I think he’s pretty square.
As for McNair. Why must society insist on glorifying these star athletes and holding them to a higher moral standard? They are HUMAN. They make STUPID DECISIONS. McNair was no different. He was great on the field, and a shady character off the field. But you know what – WHO CARES – the man was murdered by a psychotic young woman who was a few prescriptions shy of a full cabinet. Let the man rest in peace. Let his play on the field speak for his ability as an athelete. And let his family live with and decide how to memorialize the family man he was (or wasn’t). That simply is not our place – in fact, it’s no ones place but his and his family. To quote Marlon Jackson – “Maybe now that you’re gone, they’ll leave you alone now.” R.I.P. Air McNair.
The Daily News didn’t “sully McNair’s memory”.
Steve McNair did that.
The fact that it came out because McNair died and thus was no longer in a position to hide it all away, that’s entirely on McNair’s own hands.
Hello Pot, this is Kettle. Florio, all you do is report rumors and make things up and stick them in your articles couched by words the protect you. You are the one who wrote, with absolutely no facts to support it, that Steve McNair possibly owned the gun; but you wrote “possibly” so you protected yourself there. You also wrote that maybe the police officer hinted to the woman to commit the murder/suicide, but of course you wrote that “not that I am accusing anyone of doing anything wrong.” What you write in this article may be 100% correct; just maybe you should follow your own advice and stop rushing to print rumors and made up ideas you have – and just report facts when they are known. Reporting something first when you are wrong, is nothing to be proud of.
Why is everybody crucifying McNair for cheating without anybody really knowing the details. How do you know his wife wasn’t cheating on him too? How do you know they aren’t separated but still staying married for the kids?
Even if non of that is true, you can take any person and display their worst moment or deed and they will look terrible. Why is everybody so judgemental?
A few years back a founder of a church was busted for kiddie porn and crystal meth, nobody batted an eye. A player allegedly cheats on his wife and he’s the devil. WTF?
Should it matter that the man was being put in the ground? Really? What if he had been creamated.. or if no one knew that it was his funeral day. Do you really care that he was going in the ground? The man is dead and he died at the hands of his nut case chicken head. Again I ask, what fool buys a new luxury car for the chicken head? Face it – this guy appears to have not been very bright and to have had a problem with being faithful. Dont you have to wonder what other venomous stings will appear. I say put it on the table – get it out. Chicken heads of the pros unite!
I also think this should be a very loud wake up call to those athletes in the spot light – keep it in your pants! Look at Kobe – didnt keep it in his pants.. and oooops… “crazy white chic cries rape!” There are countless other stories of incidents much like these. DONT THEY TEACH YOU GUYS ANYTHING??? Maybe the NFL needs to hire some consulting firm on how to run your private lives and what these little chicken heads are up to. Or better yet, maybe if society didnt cannonize these guys – before they die – this wouldnt be such an issue. I dont care what he did on the field. His life was a mess and a lie. Are we here to judge? NOPE – but the legacy he left has been completely diminished by his deviant behavior. That in and of itself is another lesson for other men in his position! Keep the damn thing in your pants!
I wouldn’t have even known that this story existed had you not posted it.
So, while you’re trying to be in some high horse and pretend that you’re ‘better’ than those that are reporting news just take a good look in the mirror because YOU are reporting the same exact story under the guise of pretending to be upset by it.
You’re just spreading the word to people that otherwise would never have known of the story.
Akuehn713…I believe it is the salacious nature of the ‘cheating’ is stirring the drink. I think it is obvious that a sophisticated, smart, wealthy McNair was manipulating this girl. Unfortunately, she could not handle it and did something terrible.
This is no love story…this is McNair taking advantage of young woman. I think people would be more forgiving if it were not so obvious what was happening.
this is funny florio, i said the same exact thing about you when you were openly accusing his wife of killing him the day after he died and she learned he had a mistress….but hey asshole hindsight is 20/20 i guess
First of all “Akuehn713″, people did bat an eye at the preacher, secondly the article is about another paper pointing out things from McNair’s past. If you choose to label him a devil, compare him to a meth addict, feature him next to a kiddi porn pedophile, that is up to you. Most people are just saying that there is a lot of hypocrisy in the media. Judging is what forums like this are made for, you can’t just make up scenarios of hypothesis. He was a man, just a man, and without you knowing all of the facts yourself, your argument falls on the same deaf ears as Florio’s. Nobody said he was the devil, but he was a philandering, lying, untrustworthy cheater.
Wow, the felon apologists just crawl out of the woodwork with a simple NFL Penitentiary Scoreboard. A few thoughts:
BigStretch wants me to note Reyes’ negligence as a contributing cause of the accident. Duly noted. However, giving a man 30 days for a crime with a maximum sentence of 15 years is putting mitigating circumstances on steroids.
Kidekk wants me to know that the next time I hit someone with my car, I should not be mad because it’s my own fault. Great advice. I’ll keep that in mind the next, and first, time I get drunk & high and drive recklessly around town.
mborz and Ivan want me to know that Vick was not not imprisoned for killing dogs. You’re right. PETA is just protesting the man because he failed to pay his taxes.
And finally, dlcreed44 wants me to know that the disparity in sentences arose because Stallworth’s act resulted from one night’s worth of bad judgment, and Vick’s act constituted over a year’s worth of bad judgment. Genius! So if I shoot you in the face, I can write it off to one night’s bad judgment while a repeat jay walker shout suffer a worse punishment? Will you represent me at trial?
P.S. Florio is still a massive hypocrite and this website is much better off without his personal (liberal/hypocritical/nonsensical) sentiments.
I am not sure that fairness can be either bartered or decided in this forum. What i am sure of is that there is a lot of psuedo-intellectualizing over something over periferal facts (I use the word somewhat subjectively only) that seem to upset Mr. Florio because they sullied Mr. McNair’s national reputation. The fact that his local reputation somewhere else was already sullied, should not have been stated according to Mr.Florio. Well it was, and Mr. Florio didn’t scoop it, that is the real fact. Ut oh, I just pulled a Florio.
“Genius! So if I shoot you in the face, I can write it off to one night’s bad judgment while a repeat jay walker shout suffer a worse punishment? Will you represent me at trial?”
lol @ fenix
still don’t agree w/the disparity in punishment comment – but that was hilarious.
JoaquinFenix says:
BigStretch wants me to note Reyes’ negligence as a contributing cause of the accident. Duly noted. However, giving a man 30 days for a crime with a maximum sentence of 15 years is putting mitigating circumstances on steroids.
what i was saying is that if Mr. Reyes had chosen to cross the street at a designated area instead of running thru traffic he would not have been struck by Stallworth’s car in which case the penalty for a first time DUI in the state of florida is:Basic Consequences for First Time Offenders
If you are facing your first Florida DUI and you had a BAL less than .20%, here are the consequences you face:
■Between $250 and $500 in fines
■50 hours of community service
■Up to 6 months in jail
■10 days of vehicle impoundment
■DUI education requirement
■Ignition interlock on vehicle
8. Fucter N. Hadasnack = scumbag who looks like he just got out of the pool
TO OTHRDNVN:
Why on earth would I or anyone else send him a scathing email? Because he published a story on the day the guy was put in the ground. HE WAS ALREADY DEAD! The day he goes in the ground is not what is important. …..OH.. wait.. you’re upset because there is allegedly another chicken head the guy was fooling around with??? LMAO! Why the heck arent you upset with the fact that the man is partially responsible for his own untimely demise.? Why not send the dead guy the email? The dead guy cant clear his name. He doesnt get the chance to make it right or to tell the truth. Unfortunately – for him and his family – this is how it goes…. He becomes another athlete in a long line of them that are scoundrels, cheats, liars, crooks and criminals. We (readers) didnt make the man – he did that all by himself and now it all comes out in the wash. Keep your nasty emails. They too, just like this vent, will fall on deaf ears.
Don’t tell me any of you idiots referencing Stallworths sentence actually believe he only got thirty days because that’s what the Reyes family wanted. Tell me one time that someone was sentenced in a criminal case based on the family’s wishes. Thats what ya’ll want to belive, Not truth!!!
“Why, Daily News, did you have to feel compelled to sully McNair’s memory on the day between his Nashville-area memorial service and his Mississippi funeral?”
Oh come on now… You can’t appreciate your own hypocrisy here? All you’ve done is piggyback on the sexy story by chastising The Daily News. You can’t say ” Hey Daily News, that’s a low blow to gain a little traffic” while at the same time gaining traffic yourself for moralizing on their position.
Lame.
does anyone else get the sense that “sassytude” is an ex-oh… how did she put it? “Chicken Head.” You seem to take great offense that a professional athelete (who, keep in mind was married w/four children), would “use” a young girl.
Was she really that stupid/naive? What could she possibly expect with a man nearly twice her age w/kids almost her age. I mean – let’s keep it real – she was a waitress at Dave & Busters. Not exactly living the high life. She was adorned w/gifts and cars and was romanced. Why? So Air McNair could get her in bed. That’s all. That makes her a “Chicken Head.”
You say all athelete’s are “scoundrels, cheats, liars, crooks and criminals.”
I reitterate – why is it that they have to be anything more than atheletes. Their job is to provide entertainment in a sporting venue. Not to uphold some sort of extraodinary moral structure and be off the field roll models. I would be willing to bet that 90% of professional sports contracts don’t have a “moral fiber” clause that makes sure they exhibit fidelity, truthfulness, or any other measure of morality.
He is an athelete. Remember him as such. If you are not part of his family, than his personal life shouldn’t make a bit of difference to you. He’s not your husband. He’s not your father. He’s not your uncle/grandfather/step-dad or any relation what so ever. He’s not your sugar daddy. He was an athelete. Let the family judge the man he was. Let the fans judge the player he was.
Separation of Church & State. Our country was founded on it being one of the basic principals – why can’t we as citizen’s uphold that basic premise. Amazing.
I agree with sassytude. There is wa too much pwoer in the pen going on here. Or is that, “percieved power of the pen”. Unfortunately, the scatihing e-mail idea is one that will get a lot of laughs. Even more unfortunate, is that someone would suggest it in the first place. Again i am with sassytude, LMAO. Of course i am enjoying my power of the pen myself, i don’t suspect that anyone really cares what i have to say. If you hold a person up to a higher standard because that person can play a game on TV, you really do deserve for us to be LOA’sO. Most human beings worn’t recieve this much press when they play around on their wives and get murdered by their girlfriends. That would be enough of a story. But we can continue to perpetuate it with our power of the pen, can’t we Florio?
He made some mistakes, but who in this life hasn’t. I’m not saying that it’s ok that he cheated, becase it certainly is not… but can’t any aspect of his life be kept quiet. Atleast until he’s been in the ground? Why is everyone so determined to make him look bad now that he is gone? No one was rushing to write these stories when he was alive. Oh yeah… because an athlete dying is a BIG deal, and lots of people want to read about it, and they are trying to draw readers in any way they can.
Its a true shame that someone else has to have their memory marred by a few mistakes instead of celebrated for their achievments so that a news site/station can get a few more readers/listeners/watchers. Its a sad sad world…
I think our society has definitely hit rock bottom.
Why does anyone need to know McNair or anyone elses’ dirt? Maybe i’m just naive?
Yeah fenix, I see you’ve gone to the Florio school of journalism: leave out things that detract from the point you are trying to make, like the fact that I said, sarcastically (people don’t seem to get sarcasm anymore, people need to read more books!!!!) that you should take the blame when people show complete and utter disregard for the own safety, and in a split second, dole out that responsibility to everyone else around them (ie. under your logic, you should not be mad when you almost hit someone that is jaywalking, or wonder, “is that guy crazy?” like everyone who drives a car does).
Fenix:
“mborz and Ivan want me to know that Vick was not not imprisoned for killing dogs. You’re right. PETA is just protesting the man because he failed to pay his taxes.”
What the hell does that have to do with it? They didn’t say he didn’t kill dogs- they said that isn’t what he went to jail for. And they are exactly right. The counts Vick plead guilty to were related to the BUSINESS of the dog fighting operation, not the actual death of the dogs.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but at least have your facts straight.
titanfan: ABSOLUTELY – lets celebrate his achievements:
1 – he married his g/f from college and they were married for 12 years
2 – he had 4 sons – 4 beautiful boys.. that he loved.. (not enough to stay faithful to their mom – but he loved them I am sure)
3- oh yeah.. he played football.. is that an achievement or a job? I am an engineer – thats not who I am – its what I do. The achievement is that I have a job! It helps take care of the things that matter to me – MY FAMILY!
….. so.. you tell us what his achievements are… tell us how the achievements that should be the MOST IMPORTANT PARTS OF HIS LIFE are over shadowed by who he really was -
You seem to be one of them that think that athletes are heros – and above the rest of us – I didnt make him take a job that put him in the forefront of every “titanfan”. He did that and it was McNair who pissed it away. Hes not a hero. Youre right! Its a sad sad world when most “fans” cant afford to get to the stadium to watch their “role models” and their “heros” so that their lives can be celebrated.
He lived his live
fe for the readers and the listeners and the watchers… why should his death be any different?
“Backaawwwwkkkk” shut up you chicken head
C’mon Florio – even you can’t say that with a straight face, can you? You LIVE on supposition and innuendo and the sort. This paper is reporting fact, ugly as it may be. Which is worse when trying to drum up attention? Reality or the lies that could be?
sassytude says:
July 10, 2009 4:34 PM
titanfan: ABSOLUTELY – lets celebrate his achievements:
1 – he married his g/f from college and they were married for 12 years
2 – he had 4 sons – 4 beautiful boys.. that he loved.. (not enough to stay faithful to their mom – but he loved them I am sure)
=================================
He had 2 sons by his wife and 2 sons by someone else (or 2 someone elses, I don’t know).
But everyone keeps saying that he left 4 sons at home without a father or whatever and while in one sense that’s true but in reality only 2 lived with his wife because only 2 were her children.
realitypolice:
Really, you’re making this too easy for me.
There would be no BUSINESS of the dog fighting operating to plead guilty to unless Vick were, you know, fighting dogs. The operation of a dog fighting operation – where dogs were coerced in fighting to the death (“killing dogs”) – is a condition precedent to becoming criminally culpable for the acts he was convicted of. Or to put it more simply, no dog fighting = no conviction of offenses arising from a dog fighting operation.
Princess Diana…….what happened to her……how did she die again?
Well said, Florio. This garbage got spewed out to me this morning through ESPN radio on my drive in to work. I heard it and it made me wonder about McNair is an unfavorable way. ESPN was my middle man to some sleazy bouncer at a titty bar in Minnesota. Geez. Nice.
For those calling Florio a hypocrite: this is a RUMOR MILL. That is a NEWSPAPER. You think this site, which is more of a blog, should have the same standards as a newspaper reporting things as facts? GTFO.
Good decision to ignore it completely.
Always safest to take the high road