The man who caught Brett Favre's record setting touchdown pass number 421 has a healthy attitude regarding the potential return of his former quarterback to the NFC North."I don't care," Greg Jennings said after a workout earlier this week.
While that may be a tough outlook for the rest of Wisconsin to adopt, it's worth questioning whether Jennings even truly feels that way. He sounds rather happy the annual Favre drama is behind him.
"Last year we had a lot of 'What ifs?' That if was kind of floating around above everybody's head. But this year there is no doubt about who's the guy.
"We're coming in solid, everybody knows what to expect from everyone else and there's no excuse. I've said that all of minicamps, the OTAs and everything. There is no excuse this year. . . . It's all on us."
Jennings appears to realize that Favre's likely decision to play for the Vikings will not determine Green Bay's fate. The Packers have enough young talent hitting their prime to win the division.
And no matter annoying Favre's summer waffling has become, how can football fans not be intrigued by the compelling storylines his return would create?
"I'm like, 'Let him go.' To each his own," Jennings said to Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. "We're focused on what we're doing in Green Bay and if he shows up in that purple jersey then he's the enemy now."
He ain't the only one!
Seems like the only ones who do care is you and ESPN.
Jennings is always "rather happy," about everything.
Because he's greaaaat.
"I don't care," Greg Jennings said after a workout earlier this week.
Couldnt have said it better myself.
The only compelling story line is the Packers in the Super Bowl!! Go PACK!
Pierre said he didn't care, and the lion ate him.
yeah, even if Favre does return, does anyone really see him having anything other than a 'meh' season? Seems like it will (and should) a lot of AP right and AP left and AP middle...If he and the Vikings do wind up doing well, I'll look forward to their demise at the hands of the Eagles in the playoffs/championship game. Philly wins it all this year...
I see now that Florio is associated with NBC, he employs the NBC "news" tactics - that is, postitive Republican story - kill it, negative Republican story run it all day long. Negative Democrat story - kill it, postive Democrat story run it with HUGE headlines for forever, only with Florio this applies to Brett Favre.
Negative Favre story run it all day long (hell, even make up more non-Favre stories just for the hell of it), but it's "amazing" how Florio magically "forgot' to run ANY of the postive Brett Favre stories recently such as Tony Romo thinking Favre would do terrific in Minnesota, Al Harris saying him going to the Vikings wouldn't hurt his legacy, or a couple weeks ago when Packer legend Paul Hornung said Favre should play as long as he wants to. Hmmm. One would "almost" think Florio has an agenda !
Well done Florio (sarcasm), just like MSNBC or the New York Times "all the news that WE decide to let you know about ... or make up" !
1. JohnNdallas says: July 11, 2009 12:16 PM
He ain't the only one!
Seems like the only ones who do care is you and ESPN.
Lesson Economics 101: And why do you think they care in a money driven business? Because his stories get far more hits then any other NFL story. So no matter how hard the vocal minority yells, the Favre stories will keep on coming because that is what NFL fans want.
Enough talent to win the division in GB? LOL, they will be lucky if they go 6-10 this year. What was Rodgers last year? Something like 0-8 when the Packers were trailing at the start of the 4th Quarter?
"The Packers have enough young talent hitting their prime to win the division."
Pack finishes 3rd with another losing season...switching to a 3-4 is going to make that D (in the short term) worse than last year
PackFaninPackLand , what the hell are you talking about? Outside of the Romo article you referenced, florio absolutely did mention those other stories.
And why does everything in here come back to Republican/Democrat or Obama. Nobody cares.
"What was Rodgers last year? Something like 0-8 when the Packers were trailing at the start of the 4th Quarter? "
They actually lead the league in points scored in the 4th quarter. And you can't really make the argument that they were garbage time points when you consider how close almost every game was. (Saints game aside) He actually performed very, very well when trailing in the 4th quarter and regularly lead the team back to get a 4th qtr tie or lead. Unfortunately it would typically be given right back as time expired or Rodgers would come up short while attempting to get the lead back for the 2nd or 3rd time in the 4th quarter.
"switching to a 3-4 is going to make that D (in the short term) worse than last year"
Not necessarily true. Over the past 10 years when you look at teams who have transitioned to a 3-4 defense, whether they do a quick transition (like the Packers are looking at) or a slow transition over 2-3 years, the defenses have almost always improved that first year. And typically it's a big improvement. As for Capers, he's transitioned a 4-3 team to a 3-4 defense with the '99 Jags and the '06 Dolphins and both teams had an immediate turnaround on defense and had successful seasons defensively.
Why the hell should he care ? It's nobody's business but Brett's and the Vikings. Life is way to damn short for anyone to make life decisions based on public opinion. If Brett feels like he can play then let his A$$ play. A 40 year old Favre is still better than a lot of QB's in their 20's.
"Pack finishes 3rd with another losing season...switching to a 3-4 is going to make that D (in the short term) worse than last year"
No wonder why your name is 'govikings'
If Favre comes back to play for the Vikings; they win the division and head into the playoffs. If not, the Vikings don't even break .500 this season. This is a quarterback's league and Jackson or Rosenfals won't be able to carry the Vikings.
Although the defense might be shaky in GB, they have enough talent on offense alone to carry them to the post season!
Why the hell should he care ? It's nobody's business but Brett's and the Vikings. Life is way to damn short for anyone to make life decisions based on public opinion. If Brett feels like he can play then let his A$$ play. A 40 year old Favre is still better than a lot of QB's in their 20's.
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Best thing i have heard this whole 2 months.
That's no problem that he doesn't care he can just be pissed off when the vikes take the division.
What an attitude. Apparently he wasn't much of a teammate when Brett was in Green Bay.....his answer should have been just as Sharper said: If he wants to play, he should play and I wish him all the best.....not I don't care.
I did get one thing out of the conversation.......the team is using Brett as an excuse for being 6-10 when they just plain sucked last year and it wasn't just the defense as the offense has to garner half the blame for not being able to move the ball when you have the same offense that went 13-3 and scored........it was hard to watch.
last year the pack scored 419 points. over 26 a game. that is damn good. and rodgers was NOT a turnover machine. he ranked way ahead of favre in qb rating. and rodgers was 6th in the league in passing. favre ranked 21st.
the pack allowed 380 points. that is almost 24 points a game. not good.
the people who are demanding that rodgers take all the blame for the 6-10 forget that favre caused turmoil there till he was finally traded. and... rodgers cant play defense. rodgers could have thrown 9 more picks and 6 fewer TDs by playing just like favre and outting everything up for grabs. would that make all the favre sycophants happy?
the pack were 1-7 in close games in 08. that is not good. but teams that do that usually turn it around next year.
as an aside, the jets were 4-2 in close games in 08... and the vikes were 6-5 in close games.
I believe 2009 is the year Green Bay fans will awaken from their stupor and realize Favre had quite the positive effect on wins and losses when the chase was cut to.
Rodgers will do well, but if that offensive line (that which TT's neglected with legitimate talent for soooo long) does not open up more consistent running lanes and pass protect better, Rodgers doesn't possess the intangibles or durability of the Brett Favre.
Also - not that I feel Brett will light up the NFC North this season, mind you. That's a questionable Minny offensive line with Birk (regardless of his perceived "poor play" last season) and the receivers (unless Percy Harvin is Randy Moss, which he is not) are average and the coaching staff is suspect at best.
I see a horse a piece between Minny and Green Bay in 2009. Green Bay's offense surely will be more explosive, but that switch to the 3-4 cannot possibly work right outta the gate, if analyzed rationally.
LOL Packer fans are having babies because Favre is going to be a Viking. Take away the Lombardi years and the Favre years and you have futility. A division title this year? I don't think so.
Why should anyone care. Brett Favre is an egomaniac that CANT STAND not seeing his name and face on TV. That's why every year in Green Bay he says ...I might come back, I'm not sure just to keep his face on TV. When he retired he made a big dramatic production out of it and when he realized he wont be on TV anymore he panicked and "unretired". Now he's done it again, instead of dragging out things, he retired again really quick, so now to keep his name and face BACK on TV, he starts this stupid crap and all ESPN does if feed his moronic ego. Stop plastering his name and face on everything and he'll shut up.
Dolphin Fan:
I think you're looking at the Favre situation from the "hater" perspective.
If you really think the only reason Favre returns to play football is to see his mug on TV, as opposed to enjoying to play and playing at a level unmatched by probably 20 other NFL starting QB's, then I'm not sure what I could tell you to make you think more reasonably.
Look - Favre still can play at a high level and he enjoys doing so. Why does he have to retire and go away when most people want him to stay? Just because some Packers fans cannot handle the truth, he's supposed to curl up in the fetal position and call it a career???
My goodness, people!
In twenty years, no one will remember Jennings. No HOF. Nothing.
"LOL Packer fans are having babies because Favre is going to be a Viking. Take away the Lombardi years and the Favre years and you have futility. A division title this year? I don't think so."
This is a pretty misleading comment. Take away Chuck Noll years and the Rothlisberger years and you have futility for the Steelers. Take away the Tom Brady/Belichick years and the Patriots are futile.
I can play this game all day.
I wonder if the internet will melt down when every hack in the universe simultaneuosly hits enter on their pre-written 'Vi-kings get their drama queen' articles.
"when most people want him to stay?"
Not nearly as many people like Favre as much as you do Haus.
Wouldn't that be cool.
Favre comes back to QB the Vikings, and the Pack win the division. What a fool he would look like.
I hope it goes down just like that.
shimsham, keep citing statistics. That's all you have. Go to CHFF.com and you will see that the Packers were in the upper third of the league on most of their indices, and usually ahead of the Vikings, but still finished 8-8. Play your games all day long. Maybe JimmieSmith, Ben Nelson, and Fucter want to share a 12-pack and a box of tissues.
"LOL Packer fans are having babies because Favre is going to be a Viking. Take away the Lombardi years and the Favre years and you have futility. A division title this year? I don't think so."
Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul......
The Packers have won 12 world championships - which is the MOST in the NFL. They won in 1929,1930,1931,1936,1939,1944, 1961,1962,1965, 1966, 1967, 1996.
Lombardi only coached from '59 to '67. That leaves: 1929, 1930, 1931, 1936, 1939, 1944 - 6 world championships that neither Favre nor Lombardi had anything to do with.
You have to take away a lot more than Lombardi and Favre to get the Packers to equal futility.
Futility (noun): see Minnesota Vikings
WiscDave - take away the Grant years and you have Swiss Miss futility. Take away the Moss years and you have futility. Wait a minute... leave them in, and you still have futility. And PackFanInPackLand, save the persecution fantasies for your Limbaugh or Hannity call-ins, mmkay? Pack offense this year should light up Mini'sD and everyone else's like Christmas trees.
no one really cares if he plays for the Vikqueens or not... just don't expect most of us Packer fans to give him any love or respect 'cuz we don't have any love or respect for the Vikqueens... or Duh Bears for that matter...
So many Packer fans here today. Are the bars closed?
"Wiscdave says:
July 11, 2009 4:16 PM
shimsham, keep citing statistics. That's all you have. Go to CHFF.com and you will see that the Packers were in the upper third of the league on most of their indices, and usually ahead of the Vikings, but still finished 8-8. Play your games all day long. Maybe JimmieSmith, Ben Nelson, and Fucter want to share a 12-pack and a box of tissues."
So let me get this straight. you are arguing that because the packers were statistically better than the vikings last year, yet finished behind them in the rankings that somehow that proves that the Packers suck?
Thats some of the worst logical reasoning I've ever seen.
"I'm like, 'Let him go.' To each his own," Jennings said to Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. "We're focused on what we're doing in Green Bay and if he shows up in that purple jersey then he's the enemy now."
Rogers to Jennings all season long.....Bank on it!
gb went 6-10 last year.
6-10 by a team that is good by most statistical measures is the definition of futility. Favre was the spark. When he was playing we always worried that he could find a way to come back in the 4th quarter. (Thanks empty13 for the correction.)
Jennings sums it for the entire Packer fan base.
Favre played his "will he or won't he retire" routine for 5 straight seasons until he finally pulled the trigger and announced his first retirment. But it was tiresome after the first two years and Favre did nothing in the playoffs (except throw OT INT's) to make us hope for one more season.
So he moves on, big deal. The fact that one of the NFL's biggest playoff choke QB's is signing with one of the NFL's biggest playoff choke franchise's is too rich with irony. The biggest joke are the not-so-bright Biqueen fans who somehow think that Favre's last 7 years of tanking when it counts most is somehow not going to apply this year. Their annual pre season chant of "we are going to the Superbowl" completely ignores Favre's season ending tendencies as well as ignoring their head coach is a complete tool.
"last year the pack scored 419 points. over 26 a game. that is damn good. and rodgers was NOT a turnover machine. he ranked way ahead of favre in qb rating. and rodgers was 6th in the league in passing. favre ranked 21st"
If I didnt follow the NFL, that would be impressive! "BUT" hehe
Detroit x2 for 79 points .000 team
Seahawks x1 27 points .250 team
Jaguars x1 16 points .313 team
Bengals x1 17 points .281 team
SanFranx1 6 points .438 team
That is 5 games with teams that couldnt hit .500. Those 6 games netted 145 points.
Jets below .500 teams and points
Bengles x1 26 points .281 team
Oakland x1 13 points .313 team
Chiefs x1 28 points .125 team
Biils x2 57 points .438 team
Seahawks x1 3 points .250 team
6 games netted 127 points
Jets versus Packers Regular Schedule
Average team rankings vs reg season
Jets. Average team .494
Packers average team .436
Here is the problem I have with your assesment.
Rodgers has had the playbook in hand 3+ years, and should know everything packers. He had a team rolled to him that was 3 minutes away from a superbowl the year prior.
Favre was hipped to a new team after playing 16+ years with one team. New playbook weeks before the seasons start and shipped to a team coming off a 3 win season. Playing with people he never played with.
So who had everything stacked in their Favor for a winning season? Wasnt #4
It is crazy that the packers would blame Favre for their less than stellar season. But to say Rodgers is better than Favre... is funny to me. The odds were stacked against
"last year the pack scored 419 points. over 26 a game. that is damn good. and rodgers was NOT a turnover machine. he ranked way ahead of favre in qb rating. and rodgers was 6th in the league in passing. favre ranked 21st"
If I didnt follow the NFL, that would be impressive! "BUT" hehe
Detroit x2 for 79 points .000 team
Seahawks x1 27 points .250 team
Jaguars x1 16 points .313 team
Bengals x1 17 points .281 team
SanFranx1 6 points .438 team
That is 5 games with teams that couldnt hit .500. Those 6 games netted 145 points.
Jets below .500 teams and points
Bengles x1 26 points .281 team
Oakland x1 13 points .313 team
Chiefs x1 28 points .125 team
Biils x2 57 points .438 team
Seahawks x1 3 points .250 team
6 games netted 127 points
Jets versus Packers Regular Schedule
Average team rankings vs reg season
Jets. Average team .494
Packers average team .436
Here is the problem I have with your assesment.
Rodgers has had the playbook in hand 3+ years, and should know everything packers. He had a team rolled to him that was 3 minutes away from a superbowl the year prior.
Favre was hipped to a new team after playing 16+ years with one team. New playbook weeks before the seasons start and shipped to a team coming off a 3 win season. Playing with people he never played with.
So who had everything stacked in their Favor for a winning season? Wasnt #4
It is crazy that the packers would blame Favre for their less than stellar season. But to say Rodgers is better than Favre... is funny to me. The odds were stacked against him yet the stat that counts the most is WINS! Individual stats do not get your team to the superbowl. Team wins do, and in this case Packers were sadly lacking.
To even think for one moment the Vikings with Farve is not a huge threat to the packers is not living in reality. The Vikings are providing a solid team, something the Packers have failed to do for the last 20 years.
yet, teams that lose a slew of close games usually win those games the next year.
the pack has better than 6-10 talent. they will do better next season.
the vikes still have the chiller as coach. i dont get all the optimism.
Re: Real Football Fan: "PackFaninPackLand , what the hell are you talking about? Outside of the Romo article you referenced, florio absolutely did mention those other stories."
Yeah, right Real Football fan. Point me to when they were listed ! I hit this site 5-6 times a day, every day, and have never seen them. Go ahead - point me to them.
Of course you wont, because they weren't. Typical lib liar.
For the packer fans saying the games they lost were only by a few points. How about I just throw you a little quote that has been around for years. "Good teams find a way to win." Greenbay didn't. Enough said.
Packer fans make me laugh with some of your fear filled ant-Brett comments, but I can totally relate to how you feel. If my immortal team hero decided to play for another team in the division, I would be scared too. What if Brett kills us twice? What if we meet in the PLAYOFFS?? What if Brett comes to Lambeau and our heads explode??
I hope both teams suck this year - that way neither the fans nor Favre have to suffer spontaneous combustion of the brain.
gwinn1952 says:
July 11, 2009 2:18 PM
What an attitude. Apparently he wasn't much of a teammate when Brett was in Green Bay.....his answer should have been just as Sharper said: If he wants to play, he should play and I wish him all the best.....not I don't care.
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Ha! At least he didn't have his own locker room, right? That would really make him a terrible teammate. Oh wait.
1) Despite all the begging of the vikings (worst QB situation in the NFL) he has refused to sign.
2) As much as everyone wants him to be in the NFL, I doubt the vikings ability to sign him.
2) Brett Favre has not had a workout demonstrating the arm strength is back.
4) If the arm is strong enough post surgery, Bus Cook can play this a lot of ways because some other team will need a QB before the preseason is done.
5) If the arm gets back to close to normal, the greatest QB of all time can be ready with little of training camp.
6) The commentors here will be enjoying the day that a decision is made and Brett does not sign with the vikings. Things like "all those posted stories and it didn't happen."
7) People will then go back to positive Brett stories and comments except for the always disappointed viking customers. They will will go crazy with anti-Favre comments.
If any team deserves to be Favre'd, it's the Vikings. I just hope Chilly doesn't lose his job over it.
and Bob Nelson is still an idiot.
Hauschild says
I believe 2009 is the year Green bay fans awaken from their stupor....
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... oh... stop. You see Haus...hehehehehehe, the problem is, well...they are Packer fans. Hehehehehehehehahahahahahahahaha. So they CAN'T!!!
Brettv Favre wants to play football, and he wants to play for the Minnesota Vikings. I believe, Bob, that is what Dr. Andrews said. You know, the guy that did the surgery on your hero's arm.
What a disappoint to hear "I dont care" from such a great player. I am a true Packer fan, but disrespect from a fellow player....what is happening over there in Green Bay?? Teddy must be having way too much influence on the players...and that my friends is not good.
favr4evr says: Teddy must be having way too much influence on the players...and that my friends is not good
Oh great, now can we blame global warming and the failure of GM on TT too?
Why don't you organize another "Re-sign Favre rally" in GB and Milwaukee? That went over so well with about 40 people showing up. My guess is that most of them had the later shift at McDonalds which allowed them to attend.
For all you Favre jock sniffers out there, here is some free advice. Get over it, move on with your life, teams are forced to plan for the future and after sucking in the playoffs for the last 7 years of Favre's career, the Packers made an astute observation, its time to move on. The mere fact that Childress is drawing a different conclusion should tell you that the Packers are 100% correct.
Brett Favre 2007: 66.5% completion, 4155 yards, 28 TDs, 15 INTs, 12 rush yards, 0 TDs
Aaron Rodgers 2008: 63.6% completion, 4038 yards, 28 TDs, 13 INTs, 207 rush yards, 4 rush TDs
I'm happy with Rodgers. I don't care whether Favre signs either. I just don't want to read about it every damn day.
Not to mention with the addition of Favre. The Vikes go from a division front runner to a conference front runner
@CanadianVikingFan -
Bite your tongue --- don't dis Bob Nelson like that.
Nobody champions the cause of getting CFL info on PFT like he does....maybe that's what he knows best, cause it should aint the NFL.
Good day, eh!
Bob,
Go back to Packer Chatter, where your ravings are appreciated and actually raise the level of discourse.
JaredAllen69; you seem to have some type of bodily fluid on your chin. You Queens fans slay me. You think the old has been is still the same guy as ten years ago. He's back to throwing to the wrong jerseys again in record numbers. I can't wait to see the Packers embarrass him. They are going to pick him five times in each game and return half of them for TD's. He can't get out of the way of his own linemen anymore.