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Plenty of teams should want Vick

NFL_vick1.jpgOur latest item for SportingNews.com makes the case for quarterback Mike Vick refusing to serve as a backup quarterback/part-time Wildcat option once he’s reinstated to the NFL.

“The question for now isn’t whether Vick will win a title or otherwise become the best quarterback in the game,” we explain. “The question is whether he’s currently one of the best 32. 

“There’s no reason to think he isn’t, and so there simply is no reason for him to accept any other role.”

To prove our point, let’s compare Vick to the starting quarterbacks for every other team, and let’s apply one of three labels to each guy.  (“Better” means he’s better than Vick, not that Vick is better than him.  And you should feel free to come up with your own scale, if you think you’re better than me.)

Here we go.

Arizona:  Kurt Warner . . . better.

Atlanta:  Matt Ryan . . . better.

Buffalo:  Trent Edwards . . . comparable.

Baltimore:  Joe Flacco . . . better.

Chicago:  Jay Cutler . . . better.

Cleveland:  Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn . . . worse.

Cincinnati:  Carson Palmer . . . better.

Carolina:  Jake Delhomme . . . worse.

Denver:  Kyle Orton . . . worse.

Dallas:  Tony Romo . . . comparable.

Detroit:  Matthew Stafford/Daunte Culpepper . . . worse.

Green Bay:  Aaron Rodgers . . . comparable.

Houston:  Matt Schaub . . . comparable.

Indianapolis:  Peyton Manning . . . better.

Jacksonville:  David Garrard . . . worse.

Kansas City:  Matt Cassel . . . comparable.

Miami:  Chad Pennington . . . comparable.

Minnesota:  Tarvaris Jackson/Sage Rosenfels . . . worse.

New England:  Tom Brady . . . better.

New Orleans:  Drew Brees . . . better.

New York Giants:  Eli Manning . . . better.

New York Jets:  Kellen Clemens/Mark Sanchez . . . worse.

Oakland:  JaMarcus Russell/Jeff Garcia . . . worse.

Philadelphia:  Donovan McNabb . . . better.

Pittsburgh:  Ben Roethlisberger . . . better.

San Diego:  Philip Rivers . . . better.

San Francisco:  Shaul Hill/Alex Smith . . . worse.

Seattle:  Matt Hasselbeck . . . better.

St. Louis: Marc Bulger . . . comparable.

Tampa Bay:  Josh Freeman/Luke McCown/Byron Leftwich . . . worse.

Tennessee:  Kerry Collins . . . worse.

Washington:  Jason Campbell . . . worse.

So that’s 13 starters better than Vick, seven who are comparable, and a dozen who are worse.

Of course, many more factors go into the analysis.  We aren’t accounting for potential or contract status or other factors that would cause teams not to pursue him.  

But the bottom line is that, even with two seasons out of the game, Vick better than many guys who’ll be taking snaps on a regular basis this year.  Thus, once the Commissioner reinstates this specific convicted felon, there’s going to be a team that ultimately will feel like it should be convicted of grand larceny. 

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  1. Mangy66 says: Jul 20, 2009 12:35 PM

    Wow Florio. Playing with fire. Dallas fans are going to be ALL OVER YOU on this one.

  2. rjs says: Jul 20, 2009 12:38 PM

    This is just the kind of article that Florio has no credibility to write. It’s blatantly obvious that a few of the QB ratings above are designed for no other reason that to generate page views and comments. I still can’t fathom why NBC would want to be associated with this guy.

  3. Desides says: Jul 20, 2009 12:38 PM

    How exactly are Michael Vick and Chad Pennington comparable? Pennington throws accurate passes: Vick doesn’t know what those are.

  4. pkrjones says: Jul 20, 2009 12:38 PM

    Every single player that you rated Vick as “comparable” is better than Vick, if not physically, then definitely mentally. I don’t DISagree with anyone in your “worse” category, except possibly Garrard (get the man some WR’s) and Campbell.
    IF Minnesota had any “stones” they’d tell Brett to go ride his mower and sign Vick… but they don’t, and they’ll continue to suck until Zygi sells them to LA.

  5. EdReed4prez says: Jul 20, 2009 12:41 PM

    The only one I buy on that list is San fran, I think orton, delhomme and gerrard are way better than the puppy killer. Garcia is also way better, you might be on to something with jemarcus russel too..

  6. texasPHINSfan says: Jul 20, 2009 12:41 PM

    i don’t agree with most of those analyses.
    you also don’t account for the waiting-in-the-wings QB’s who are being groomed. I would also disagree with the “comparable” assessment. Vick wasn’t even comparable to may of those you did say, and that was when he was playing. He’s been out of the game for two years now, and his weapon was his legs. If you think being two years older and out of football has made him better than he was, you’re sorely mistaken.
    If anything he’d be rustier & not as quick, which would bring him down a few pegs. let’s be reasonable here…

  7. texasPHINSfan says: Jul 20, 2009 12:42 PM

    i’ll take Chad Pennington over Mike Vick any day, thank you. arm strength doesn’t equal wins.

  8. raiders177 says: Jul 20, 2009 12:42 PM

    Hilarious. The guy has spent 2 years in prison, not doing workouts and eating prison food. Who knows if he is going to be as good as he was before.

  9. Hoodie says: Jul 20, 2009 12:43 PM

    Until Romo wins a playoff game, I think Dallas fans can deal with Vick being comparable to him…

  10. Superbelt says: Jul 20, 2009 12:44 PM

    Not only don’t agree with your assessment of the quarterbacks I think a bunch of your comparables are actually better. And a bunch of your worse are at least comparable.
    Still, you seem to be considering that Vick can come back and play like he used to. He’s now 30 years old and has been out of the league for two years. He’s fast losing (if not long gone already) the only asset he has, his legs.
    Noone will want him as a passer. Without his legs, there might be only two starting quarterbacks at best who are even on his level.

  11. DaMayan says: Jul 20, 2009 12:45 PM

    You forget that you can only compare Vick from 2 years ago…
    You don’t think he instantly regains that form, do you now?
    And to be honest only 2 locations are likely: Minnesota and Denver. The rest have a high-wage draftpick or an incumbent.

  12. tkebean says: Jul 20, 2009 12:46 PM

    So Joe Flacco is better a QB than Romo and Rodgers? I’d rather have either one leading my team over Flacco.

  13. 0157h7 says: Jul 20, 2009 12:47 PM

    This list is retarded. There is no reason to believe that Vick can still play at the level that he was before going penal. He may have had the opportunity to work out but did they bring in a professional strength and conditioning coach? Are you saying there is no rust?
    Sorry, but I will take Kerry Collins and most of the others that were listed as worse until HE does something to prove he is worth paying for a starting spot.

  14. zygi milf says: Jul 20, 2009 12:48 PM

    The only team that would sign Vick is one that wants to alienate their fan base enough so that they can move their team to another city.
    Florio – it wasn’t too long ago that you posted that Vick “possibly” was throwing games – based on his QB rating.
    Are you now pushing for him to get employed? What changed your mind?

  15. J.Cannon says: Jul 20, 2009 12:49 PM

    Leave it to some Fudge Packer homer to turn this into an “I miss Brett” post. Lol. I must say I think this is a pretty fair and accurate assessment. Good Job Mr. Florio.

  16. Terrell Blowens says: Jul 20, 2009 12:51 PM

    Aaron Rodgers is definitely better than Vick. Vick has a strong arm and is fast but his accuracy is terrible. Unless Vick’s receivers are about 2 feet tall, he will never hit them between the numbers. Rodgers has a little mobility, strength, arm strength and accuracy and is a much better balanced QB

  17. stiller43 says: Jul 20, 2009 12:53 PM

    Florio, I normally think you’re right about most stuff. This whole article was a HUGE miss. This guy wasn’t in the top half of starting QB’s in the league BEFORE he sat out of the game for two years.

  18. Buce says: Jul 20, 2009 12:54 PM

    Florio, you’ve completely lost your grip on reality. Comparable to Romo and Delhomme. These two are actual QBs. At his height, Vick was barely a serviceable QB. He’s a running back…who throws like a running back. Vick has been in PRISON for two years. He could barely hit a receiver in stride beforehand. There are maybe two teams that have a QB situation that might benefit Vick.

  19. Nate Funk says: Jul 20, 2009 12:55 PM

    Seriously? Aaron Rodgers is “comparable” to Michael Vick? You have to be kidding me.
    If you claim they are “comparable”, that must mean that if you were a GM in the NFL right now, you would consider taking Vick over a guy like Rodgers. If that is the case, you are crazy. There is no GM in the NFL who would take Mike Vick over Aaron Rodgers. (Or Romo, Schaub, or Cassel, for that matter.)
    Vick will never be a highly-successful QB in the NFL because he is not an accurate passer. He did fairly well early in his career due to his legs and a strong running game behind him. But when the game is on the line, he simply cannot make the throws necessary to win. It is that simple.

  20. eballa1 says: Jul 20, 2009 12:58 PM

    Wait, Vick is a career 53.8 percent passer and has been out of the game for 2 years, yet there’s only 13 starters better than him in the league? Vick’s career high in passing is 2,936 … I know he brings more to the table than that, but these are passers that we’re comparing him to. This is ridiculous.

  21. Display Name says: Jul 20, 2009 12:59 PM

    Nobody cares about that has been looser, he sucked as a QB in Atlanta and now he’s been out of the league for 2 years so he’ll suck even worse.
    Enough with the idiot Vick stories. I’d rather read about McNair conspiracy theories and how Michael Jackson was behind the whole plot.

  22. NFLed says: Jul 20, 2009 12:59 PM

    You are way way over-rating Vick. At his very best he was an average QB including his great rushing ability — i.e., he was a way below average QB if you weren’t to count his rushing ability for some reason. And he had years in which he was well below average all things considered.
    To say that Vick is comparable to, for example, Trent Edwards is ridiculous. Edwards had an over 65% completion rate and is young and likely to improve (the jury is still out on him). Vick’s completion rate is always significantly lower than the league average and his yards per attempt is usually also lower. He’s just not particularly good. If there weren’t ever any dogfighting issues he would be in the lower 20% of starting QBs — i.e. a good backup or a bad starter.
    Oh and there’s the whole been out of football thing, probably very rusty at best.
    Oh and there’s the whole people-will-boycott-the-team thing due to his being a horrible scumbag, but that’s a separate issue.

  23. SL__72 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:00 PM

    You are seriously over-rating Vick. He wasn’t good before he was suspended and certainly isn’t as good now as he was then. There isn’t a team in the NFL who would be better off with him than their current starter. Maybe you could do some fun things with him in the wildcat, but Vick’s days as a starting QB are likely, or at least should be, over.

  24. kaos2288 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:02 PM

    Mikey Mikey Mikey… Im not even a Cowboys fan and i think Vick is leaps and bounds behind Romo. It is truely amazing what one or two years can do to the perception of ability/skill level. Go back to the start of the 07 season and look at what your opinions of them were then (prior to Vick being a convicted felon).
    You justify your assesments of the rookies by saying you arent accounting for potential but you are also not accounting for the potential decline in Mr. Vick’s skills. Is he still running that 4.4 after two years out of the league or did the number of times he dropped the soap in Leavenworth leave him walking like he has a … well you know how the saying goes. Im not saying … im just sayin…

  25. hitnrun says: Jul 20, 2009 1:03 PM

    “But the bottom line is that, even with two seasons out of the game, Vick better than many guys who’ll be taking snaps on a regular basis this year. ”
    Are you kidding us?
    What the heck do you base that on? Does Vick strike you as the kind of guy who would keep in shape on the off-chance he could play again? Is it even possible to keep in pro-athlete shape in prison?
    That’s not even going into the question of his being thirty, combined with his poor-to-mediocre QB play and his dependency on his legs. Can he still run? Who knows for sure? Anyone? Besides Florio?

  26. akuehn713 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:06 PM

    He wasn’t better than a dozen QBs in the league before his suspension.

  27. empty13 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:07 PM

    doesnt prep for games. cant read defenses. cant see over the pocket. cant hit the broadside of a barn other than a crumpler. disses own wideouts. flips off the crowd. oh yeah he’s the real thing… better than all but 13 other QBs in the nfl. oh bullshit.
    and he hasnt played in 2 years. he hasnt been studying film or the playbook all that time, but then he never did.
    campbell isnt the best qb for wash, but he is at least comparable. he’s got the fast start and lousy finish act down already.
    vick better than kerry collins? oh bullshit.
    vick is also worse than the starters in carolina, denver, dallas, gb, houston (u want schaub to keep ridin pine behind that jackass?), jax, kc (cassel OR thigpen), miami, and garcia in oakland.
    only comparable to cleveland, minnehaha (t jack), jets, sf, tb. agree on buffalo. cause they cant crack .500 and neither did vick in 05/06.
    vick would be a temporary upgrade in detroit. that’s it.
    vick never proved himself to be a qb before all his legal troubles hit. exciting at times, yes. a liability at times also. good defenses know how to play him, and did.
    just remember folks, after 6-2 and 5-3 starts in 05 and 06, the falcons closed 2-6 with vick both years.
    he doesnt have it. unless by “it” you count convictions.

  28. sundays and beer mmmm says: Jul 20, 2009 1:07 PM

    Mike Vick:
    74- games
    71- TD’s
    52-Int’s
    11,505-Yds
    75.7-QB rating
    Tony Romo:
    45-games
    81-TD’s
    46-Int’s
    10,562-Yds
    94.7-QB rating
    Comparable? What are you comparing Mike?

  29. jwill007 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:07 PM

    Vick threw many passes that were dropped in those young Atlanta WR years when Roddy dropped EVERY pass Vick threw to him…..All he had as a solid option was the TE…

  30. VoddyT says: Jul 20, 2009 1:09 PM

    Worst article on PFT I’ve seen in the 2 years I’ve been regularly reading. I’m guessing Florio has some quota to fill now that’s he’s big time and he’s out of Favre stuff. Hopefully this is just the result of the summer weather and his recent vacation putting the zap on his brain and not the unofficial “jumping the shark” moment. Just an awful, naive piece showcasing a complete lack of understanding of what it takes to be a successful NFL QB.

  31. teeg01 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:10 PM

    I don’t even like any of these 4 QBs and they are “better” than Vick:
    Dallas: Tony Romo, Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers, Houston: Matt Schaub , Tennessee: Kerry Collins.
    So, Vick is in the bottom 1/3 of the league.
    He’s not a leader. Can’t read defenses. Can’t hit an open receiver. But, he is the #1 running QB in the league.
    He would be the prototype for the Wildcat until Tim Tebow comes into the league.

  32. pkrjones says: Jul 20, 2009 1:10 PM

    J.Cannon… when you bring your reading level UP to a 2nd grade level, you’ll see that the only mention of Favre was NOT an “I miss Brett” comment at all, but a rip on Minny for putting themselves into Favre-Circus-’09.

  33. jph says: Jul 20, 2009 1:12 PM

    Take it from a Falcons fan, Florio: you’re way overestimating how good Vick was. He was a bottom-third quarterback, and that was before he was coming off of two years of not playing and pushing 30 years old.

  34. samh says: Jul 20, 2009 1:12 PM

    Garrard deserves AT LEAST a ‘comparable’ to Vick. He’s won games with his arm and he took down your precious Steelers in the playoffs, in Pittsburgh, running.
    Or is a playoff victory IN pittsburgh just not worth that much anymore?

  35. JimmySmith says: Jul 20, 2009 1:15 PM

    Really, Vick is comparably to Rodgers, what a load of BS.
    In 4 full seasons at starting, Vick never cracked 3,000 yards passing for the season and 3 out of 4, he was below 2,500 yards. Rodgers has only played one season and he passed for over 4,000 yards. Call me crazy, but I think that points to the issue of accuracy.
    Sometimes I think you post these silly stories just to get a reaction out of the readers. For example, I am not a big fan of Romo’s but to be fair, Vick isn’t even half the QB of Romo.

  36. TimT says: Jul 20, 2009 1:16 PM

    Mike, when you’re done calling some of those guys “comparable” or “worse”, I have a hornets nest that needs taken down. (Bring your own whiffle bat.)
    Minny, San Fran, St Louis, Tampa Bay and Washington are the only teams that’d be better off starting Vick over any QB currently on their roster.

  37. rodd22 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:17 PM

    As a Dallas fan I’d take Romo over Vick any day. But I’m not surprised Florio put what he did when this site is blatantly PRO EAGLES TALK

  38. Football says: Jul 20, 2009 1:18 PM

    Florio is probably right that Vick is better than several starting NFL QBs. But he isnt a lot better than any of them. He isnt enough of an upgrade over even the worst starting QBs in the NFL that a team would be willing to deal with the fallout that would result. There are easier ways to get an average QB (which Vick is) then by signing Vick.

  39. NonYahooHotmailAcct says: Jul 20, 2009 1:18 PM

    WRONG: Denver: Kyle Orton . . . worse.
    WRONG: Dallas: Tony Romo . . . comparable.
    WRONG: Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers . . . comparable.
    WRONG: Houston: Matt Schaub . . . comparable.
    WRONG: New York Jets: Kellen Clemens/Mark Sanchez . . . worse.
    WRONG: San Francisco: Shaul [sic!!] Hill/Alex Smith . . . worse.
    WRONG: St. Louis: Marc Bulger . . . comparable.
    WRONG: Tampa Bay: Luke McCown. . . worse.
    WRONG: Tennessee: Kerry Collins . . . worse.

  40. DCViking says: Jul 20, 2009 1:19 PM

    In a related note, even with the prospect of signing Michael Vick, the Vikings still haven’t sold out their remaining single game tickets…

  41. Gophersnot says: Jul 20, 2009 1:20 PM

    Vick has the physical talent between his arm and scrambling/running. However, Vick appears to be a cancer/coach killer. I base this on past coach interview as to his not being willing to follow coach’s decisions. He is an improviser and would not fit into a scheme which is structured. He would be a horrible fit in Minny.

  42. jkc710 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:21 PM

    how can you possibly say Vick is a comparable QB to Aaron Rodgers? or Romo for that matter?
    sure, Vick is quicker and more athletic than A-Rod and Romo, but he just isn’t a good passer. and last time i checked, that’s what quarterbacks do.

  43. Piro says: Jul 20, 2009 1:21 PM

    I’ll agree with the “better” category, shake my head at the “comparable” and downright laugh at the “worse.”
    San Fran and Tampa are the only two places in the league I could imagine Vick competing for a starting job right now, and that’s assuming he’s the same player he was when he went to prison. Given that he’s certainly rusty and likely out of shape, those are even a toss up.

  44. VoxVeritas says: Jul 20, 2009 1:21 PM

    Vick is not comparable or superior to any other NFL QB simple because Michael Vick is not an NFL QB, hasn’t been one in a long time and likely will never be one again. Even when he was in his prime he sucked as an NFL QB, hovering just above your “Cardoza Line” or whatever it is with his career ~75 passer rating. He’s not going to be better now that he’s spent some time in prison.

  45. Bill In DC says: Jul 20, 2009 1:21 PM

    Florio,
    How exactly can you compare a QB who hasn’t stepped on the field in two years to ANY currently playing QB.
    Maybe your comparison is valid for a Vick of two years ago, but certainly not now. You seriously expect he’ll just step back on the field and be the same player? I don’t.
    As a cowboy fan I think you are probably right that the Vick of two years ago and Romo are ‘comparable’.

  46. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2009 1:21 PM

    Hmmmm…..one would think that a QB (Aaron Rodgers) that had better stats in his first year as a starter than last years NFL MVP (Peyton Manning) would perhaps be considered BETTER than a guy who was never a passer to begin with…or at the very least a poor passer.

  47. itseasy says: Jul 20, 2009 1:23 PM

    i agree with a lot of those BUT what the hell is wrong with people that have the delusion that joe flacco is some great qb.. the kid played on a run first team with a great defense..

  48. Ben Roetlisbunger says: Jul 20, 2009 1:23 PM

    This is a meaningless post. Nobody knows how good/bad Vick is after two years out of the game.

  49. AR says: Jul 20, 2009 1:24 PM

    I love the site, but saying vick and AROD are comparable just made me rethink why i visit this site multiple times a day. Florio, your a moron. Remember how AROD was the best first year starting QB in league history, statistically? you mustve been smoking what vick has been holding in those water bottles…get a grip
    PS id take Romo over vick as well…who cares if he cant run as fast

  50. green&bold says: Jul 20, 2009 1:26 PM

    Your ratings regarding several NFL qbs make me seriously question your football knowledge. Here’s a better question. Which team is willing to rewrite their playbook and coddle to Vick so he can be somewhat successful. 1 read and run only works in college long term.

  51. brian forster says: Jul 20, 2009 1:30 PM

    Players like Michael Turner have shown us that age is not as important as mileage. Some of you seem to be forgetting this.
    I want Michael Vick back in the NFL, I want to see him play. If he sucks, he will be cut. This is the NFL, nobody is going to just hand Vick succcess. That’s all I have to say about that

  52. Display Name says: Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM

    Arizona: Kurt Warner . . . better.
    Atlanta: Matt Ryan . . . better.
    Buffalo: Trent Edwards . . . comparable.
    Baltimore: Joe Flacco . . . better.
    Chicago: Jay Cutler . . . better.
    Cleveland: Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn . . . worse.
    Cincinnati: Carson Palmer . . . better.
    Carolina: Jake Delhomme . . . worse.
    Denver: Kyle Orton . . . worse.
    Dallas: Tony Romo . . . comparable.
    Detroit: Matthew Stafford/Daunte Culpepper . . . worse.
    Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers . . . comparable.
    Houston: Matt Schaub . . . comparable.
    Indianapolis: Peyton Manning . . . better.
    Jacksonville: David Garrard . . . worse.
    Kansas City: Matt Cassel . . . comparable.
    Miami: Chad Pennington . . . comparable.
    Minnesota: Tarvaris Jackson/Sage Rosenfels . . . worse.
    New England: Tom Brady . . . better.
    New Orleans: Drew Brees . . . better.
    New York Giants: Eli Manning . . . better.
    New York Jets: Kellen Clemens/Mark Sanchez . . . worse.
    Oakland: JaMarcus Russell/Jeff Garcia . . . worse.
    Philadelphia: Donovan McNabb . . . better.
    Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger . . . better.
    San Diego: Philip Rivers . . . better.
    San Francisco: Shaul Hill/Alex Smith . . . worse.
    Seattle: Matt Hasselbeck . . . better.
    St. Louis: Marc Bulger . . . comparable.
    Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman/Luke McCown/Byron Leftwich . . . worse.
    Tennessee: Kerry Collins . . . worse.
    Washington: Jason Campbell . . . worse.
    =================================
    Who is the total idiot that came up with that list?
    Every single quarterback on the list is better than Ookie the Dookie.

  53. RHouston says: Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM

    Michael Vick one of the best? Hardly! As a lifelong Falcon fan I must say it was a mistake from the start to obtain him in the draft. Vick is not a quarterback. His passer rating was terrible and will continue to be so no matter what team he plays for. Matt Ryan is a true quarterback in the same vein as what a quarterback needs to be. I will admit Vick was exciting to watch but he did not win games. Vick is not a team player. Give me a true quarterback that is a team player over any player of Vick’s “ME” metality.

  54. RaidersSavior says: Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM

    Florio – really? Dude – way off.
    You got the “better’s” pretty right – however I’d add these:
    Kerry Collins (I’m sorry – didn’t he start last season 12-0?
    Aaron Rodgers – all day over vick. sorry.
    Delhomme – one bad game and he’s crucified? sorry – wrong here too.
    And my one question when I was reading this – how are you going to rip Stafford, Sanchez, and Freeman? They haven’t taken an NFL snap, but they have actually PLAYED in the past two years. Vicks been playing wall ball and pocket pool. He’s 30, slower, and never was an accurate thrower – not to mention the fact that he has the mental capacity of a third grader.
    I think he ends up in Minnesota, maybe Denver – long shot in Cleveland or Houston (though I’d like to think he won’t end up anywhere).

  55. Art Vanderlay says: Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM

    Garrard > Vick any day

  56. vbeach31 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:31 PM

    Okay, enough is enough. Realistically this is no way to compare quarterbacks. People can hate on Vick all they want, but he is a winner. He has the 2x the atheletic ability of any current starting signal callers and he has taken his team to the NFC Championship before. Of course he will have to get some rust off, but you cant tell me he could start qb for at LEAST 12 teams in the nfl. A mobile qb is a defensive coordinator’s nightmare. If a coach can get VICK to buy into a pocket passer mode, when he only runs when he has too, he would be unstoppable. He has the arm and awareness. His accuracy isn’t the best, but either is Donovon McNabb’s and he has been successful. I think if you erase the dogfighting thing(which he has paid his debt to society for)he would have been a top tier qb by now. You dont just lose that. I’m sure he had matured and studied the game while locked up. Also the time he spent in prison probably added some extra years on to his career, i’m sure all injuries or nagging ailments are gone

  57. Kane says: Jul 20, 2009 1:32 PM

    OK, let’s play make believe for a minute and pretend that Mr. Vick hasn’t missed the past 2 seasons and is still in peak football shape. Does anybody remember what kind of football player he actually was?
    We’re talking about a player who reliably, year after year, put up passer ratings in the 70s. Who has a 53% career completion percentage. Who was never the kind of focused, hard-working competitor who serves as a role model for the team the way you want your QB to be. And who is 6-foot-nothing.
    Chad Pennington’s worst year starting earned him a higher rating than Vick’s best. QBs like Rodgers and Cassel each have just one year as a starter, but that year vastly eclipsed any year of Vick’s career. Etc., etc.
    Please.

  58. DoomsDayD75 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:33 PM

    I would take Romo, Rodgers, and Schaub over Mike Vick any day of the week. Call me crazy, but I want a quarterback who can actually throw the football, and doesn’t ruthlessly murder dogs.

  59. CurseofBoJackson says: Jul 20, 2009 1:33 PM

    Tampa, Oakland, and NYJ. Those are the only teams with worse options than Vick (circa 2006/7) period. He’ll be lucky to catch on with a team as a 2nd option/wildcat QB.

  60. tom coughlin's coat holder says: Jul 20, 2009 1:34 PM

    florio,how come all the recievers in atlanta got good the year after he left,hmmmmm.
    kerry collins is not worse than vick,ask anybody who knows football,kerry collins has a rifle arm and can throw a highly accurate ball deep down field.

  61. evilboy128 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:35 PM

    Florio, you obviously think that Vick was a much better QB than he was when he went to jail. All those super bowl appearences obviously prove…oh wait….he didn’t have any of those. well him having that same coach all those year— oh wait, he cost a couple of coaches their jobs with mediocre play. Ah well…guess you must be a Dog hater then Florio…because their is NO QB in the league is worse than Vick, mostly because none of them are felons.

  62. UrMomToldMe2TellUHi says: Jul 20, 2009 1:36 PM

    uh, Aaron Rodgers isn’t even CLOSE to comparable to Vick. Rodgers (albeit a limited sampling) had a passer rating of 105.8 last year. Vick never had higher than 81.6 and has a career avg of of 75.7.
    SO:
    Aaron Rodgers…Better
    Mike Florio…short bus

  63. pantherdan89 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:36 PM

    I hope Vick doesn’t settle for a backup job, that way I’ll never have to watch him play again.

  64. danj0306 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:36 PM

    ok.. this is 100% opinion based… so… like he said feel free to come up with your own scale… however.. I do wonder how Jay cutler can be better and Kyle Orton can be worse when the only stat really seperating the 2 Qb’s was passing yards and TD’s… That was because of a lack of WR talent not a lack of skill. Kyle Orton played just as good as Cutler last year and he did it with no Elite Wr’s. So I say….. Orton is better than Vick… PS.. So is Delhomme

  65. LightningLucci says: Jul 20, 2009 1:36 PM

    Florio:
    “Of course, many more factors go into the analysis. We aren’t accounting for potential or contract status or other factors that would cause teams not to pursue him. ”
    In other words:
    “The list you just read is completely worthless. Sorry I wasted your time.”

  66. Whododrums says: Jul 20, 2009 1:36 PM

    The only team in the NFL that should even consider Vick should be Da Bears, Cutler is a piece of crap and I would rather have a puppy killer than a winy little b***h.
    Really Vick should never be seen on a football field in the NFL again, I hear a UFL team calling for a back-up and Vick is in a prime spot to take that over.

  67. SteveC says: Jul 20, 2009 1:38 PM

    nice article Florio…I agree with most of these comparisons
    obviously many Packer fans forget the spanking Vick put on there beloved Favre an co.

  68. JustinG says: Jul 20, 2009 1:39 PM

    From Mangy66:
    Wow Florio. Playing with fire. Dallas fans are going to be ALL OVER YOU on this one.
    __________________________
    Yeah, Florio… watch yourself. Dallas fans, for some odd reason, actually think Romo is a great QB. You better recognize!

  69. hudgemania says: Jul 20, 2009 1:41 PM

    Florio,
    You are a genius. You knew exactly what to write to get a bunch of donkies to argue with your take. You knew you would get these responses.
    To the people that write things like “This is just the kind of article that Florio has no credibility to write”, why do you read his articles then?
    Genius….Simply Genius

  70. Jeff Smith says: Jul 20, 2009 1:44 PM

    Florio, Vick might be better than a couple of NFL quarterbacks, but I think you greatly overestimate his ability to be a successful NFL QB.
    Despite his being out of the league for a couple of years, you seem to rate him at the apex of his career–his zenith in the few great games he played. Not the many crappy passes he threw and the many times he failed to read a defense.
    Are you comparing his best games against these other QBs entire careers (good and bad)?
    You also fail to factor in the baggage he would bring to any team. He’s not going to inspire a lot of other players in the huddle. He’s no leader of men.
    Regardless of whether you think Vick should get a second chance (I personally don’t think he should), any owner who signs him is going to lose money on the deal through lost fan support and the zoo of distractions that will ensue. There will be protesters at every game. What parent will want to bring their kids to games and shout “Go Michael Vick, the guy who kidnaps other peoples dogs and feeds them to his pit bulls, when he doesn’t take the time to brutally murder them himself! Woo hoo!”
    No owner wants to lose money on Vick.

  71. AmhaTek says: Jul 20, 2009 1:48 PM

    The only one on this list that I disagree with is Arron Rodgers, I defin think he’s a quality qb and that he’s better then Vick. He’s proven to be a good passer, and although he will never be Vick when it comes to running I think he’s adequate enough. Also, he’s mental toughness has impressed me thoughout this entire Favre ordeal.

  72. MPW says: Jul 20, 2009 1:49 PM

    I don’t know how you can compare somebody who hasn’t played football for a couple of years. Vick is worse than all QBs in the league until proven otherwise.

  73. jrmbadger says: Jul 20, 2009 1:49 PM

    Mike Vick comparable to Aaron Rodgers? Are you smoking crack?
    Lets compare:
    Mike Vick’s completion percentage hovers around 50-55%
    Aaron Rodgers = 64% (i.e. between 9 and 14% better)
    Mike Vick’s best passing season he had 3,000 yards passing.
    Aaron Rodger’s first season he had just over 4,000 (i.e. 25% better)
    Mike Vick’s best season he had 20 touchdown passes. Aaron Rodger’s first season he had 28 touchdown passes. (that is 1 touchdown pass more every other game played)
    Even if you add in rushing stats: His best contribution to the Falcon’s offense came in 2002 when he had 3713 yards total offense. Compared to Rodger’s almost 4300 rushing and passing combined. Even if you were to take and use his best rushing year (2006 with just over 1000 yards rushing) and his best passing year (2002 with 2900 passing yards) he STILL hasn’t produced as much offense as Rodgers…..
    Yeah, Vick is comparable to Rodgers. (rollseyes)

  74. theskinnypost says: Jul 20, 2009 1:50 PM

    Wow, you really think Hasselbeck is going to bounce back if you think he’s better than Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo.

  75. CSB1000 says: Jul 20, 2009 1:51 PM

    WOW Mike – what an idiot. You completely wrote this article for shock value. Vick sucked before he even got coaught killing dogs.
    So did you!

  76. star0006 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:00 PM

    Wow, you will never be anything better than a blogger with that analysis. No reason just that a man who has been out of the game that throws more int than tds is better than half the qbs bc you say so. WOW!

  77. star0006 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:01 PM

    With this reasoning Tim Tebow should be the number one pick next year

  78. Wrathchild says: Jul 20, 2009 2:02 PM

    This entire article is pointless. I can’t believe you are actually advocating this scumbag playing in the NFL again.
    Should he refuse a backup role, FFS, this dirtbag will be lucky to even don an NFL uniform again and should thank his lucky stars if an NFL team even gives him a sniff again.

  79. ZombieRevolution says: Jul 20, 2009 2:04 PM

    This is where Florio’s lack of NFL acumen really becomes obvious (then again he may just write things to create outrage and web traffiic).
    As just about everybody has pointed out- Vic is far removed from when he played last. At the very best he will be rusty at the most complicated position in the NFL. The thought that he could come in an out play almost any of the starting NFL QBs is just plain silly. Give him a year to get in shape, relearn a playbook, develope chemistry etc and maybe.
    You really should stick to your strong points. And you hammered that coach for his writing, yet put this out….?

  80. bakler5 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:07 PM

    This article must have been a joke by Mike Florio’s kid or something. No way a professional would write something like this. Right?

  81. pat2452 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:10 PM

    Florio, how can vick be comparable to Rodgers? never has vick even hit 3000yds. Rodgers throws for over 4000 first year and 28tds the most passing tds vick ever had in a season was 20.

  82. db3wood5 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:10 PM

    I wish they gave this topic to another writer who knows something about football… this is a horrible evaluation of the talent level of NFL QB’s compared to Michael Vick… Vick is a great athlete, no one can take that away from him… but I wouldnt even put him among the top 25 NFL QB’s… a successful QB needs to be able to throw accurately, make timely decisions, and rise up in the face of adversity… Vick does NONE of these above average… Vick does deserve another chance at the NFL, but you’ve got to be out of your mind to think only 13 current QB’s are better than Vick… by the way, Eli Manning is the most overrated QB in the NFL, and he is COMPARIBLE to Vick.

  83. USG says: Jul 20, 2009 2:12 PM

    Wow! You must be dumb (like Giants fans) to think that Eli is better than Romo, Schaub, Rodgers, Garrard, Cassel and Pennington. I would even put a few others ahead of Eli. Just because he has a ring, it doesn’t mean that he is a good QB….. He is an average/mediocre QB on a SB team. There have been a few mediocre QB to win SBs. It doesn’t take a good QB to win one, it takes a good team.

  84. smiley says: Jul 20, 2009 2:14 PM

    I wouldn’t have Mike Vick on the Redskins even if he was the 2nd coming of Joe Montana (which he ain’t)…..I’ll take Jason Campbell anyday. Hail!

  85. SteelersRule says: Jul 20, 2009 2:15 PM

    Come on folks, Let’s try to keep this an intelligent discussion. If you actually analyze Vick’s numbers, he is at best a below average QB. According to the NFL’s own stats, his ranking are as follow. (category, then rank)
    Att – 15th,
    Comp – 20th
    Pct – 31st
    Att/G – 27th
    Yds – 16th,
    Avg – 23rd
    Yds/G – 27th
    TD – 18th
    TD% 19th
    Int – 16th
    Int% – 14th
    Rate- 27th
    Do you seriously contend he is a top third QB? The facts say otherwise.

  86. db3wood5 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:17 PM

    I wish they gave this topic to another writer who knows something about football… this is a horrible evaluation of the talent level of NFL QB’s compared to Michael Vick… Vick is a great athlete, no one can take that away from him… but I wouldnt even put him among the top 25 NFL QB’s… a successful QB needs to be able to throw accurately, make timely decisions, and rise up in the face of adversity… Vick does NONE of these above average… Vick does deserve another chance at the NFL, but you’ve got to be out of your mind to think only 13 current QB’s are better than Vick… by the way, Eli Manning is the most overrated QB in the NFL, and he is COMPARIBLE to Vick.

  87. pat2452 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:17 PM

    how the hell is flacco better but rodgers comparable? this list doesnt even make sense.

  88. Ravens Fan says: Jul 20, 2009 2:22 PM

    “So Joe Flacco is better a QB than Romo and Rodgers? I’d rather have either one leading my team over Flacco.”
    Yea Flacco is better than Romo or Rodgers. Romo still waiting to win a playoff game, and Rodgers waiting to play in one. Call me when either has as many wins as Flacco. Two.
    Guess that shuts you up

  89. kgleits says: Jul 20, 2009 2:32 PM

    Romo, Rodgers, and Schaub are COMPARABLE!!! WHAT!!! And Garrard is WORSE?!?! This website is just awful now.

  90. JCrompton says: Jul 20, 2009 2:43 PM

    You really do stick up for your VT boys, don’t you Mikey? One thing you haven’t quite grasped yet, HE IS A TEAM IMAGE NIGHTMARE IN CLEATS. No team in this day and age is going to take this guys baggage to go along with mediocre talent. His best stats are 6 yrs old. Just picture that first game. Dog bowls, collars, rawhides, PETA and countless amounts of other debris sprayed across the field. That is just an account of the pre-game festivities. In the 70′s, the Raiders would have taken him in a heart beat. Now, not a chance in dog hell will that happen.
    As for your list, I have printed it and used it to clean up after my dog. Even my pooch laughed….

  91. Lumas101 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:44 PM

    My attempt at this list….
    Arizona: Kurt Warner . . . better.
    Atlanta: Matt Ryan . . . better.
    Buffalo: Trent Edwards . . . better. (some Bills fan favoritism, but I believe it)
    Baltimore: Joe Flacco . . . better.
    Chicago: Jay Cutler . . . better.
    Cleveland: Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn . . . comparable.
    Cincinnati: Carson Palmer . . . better.
    Carolina: Jake Delhomme . . . better.
    Denver: Kyle Orton . . . comparable. (probably “better” considering McDaniels seems to be out for a heady, system quarterback)
    Dallas: Tony Romo . . . better.
    Detroit: Matthew Stafford/Daunte Culpepper . . . worse.
    Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers . . . better.
    Houston: Matt Schaub . . . comparable.
    Indianapolis: Peyton Manning . . . better.
    Jacksonville: David Garrard . . . better.
    Kansas City: Matt Cassel . . . better.
    Miami: Chad Pennington . . . better.
    Minnesota: Tarvaris Jackson/Sage Rosenfels . . . comparable. (for another week until they add Favre. Then it will be “worse” = ) )
    New England: Tom Brady . . . please.
    New Orleans: Drew Brees . . . better.
    New York Giants: Eli Manning . . . better.
    New York Jets: Kellen Clemens/Mark Sanchez . . . worse.
    Oakland: JaMarcus Russell/Jeff Garcia . . . comparable.
    Philadelphia: Donovan McNabb . . . better.
    Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger . . . better.
    San Diego: Philip Rivers . . . better.
    San Francisco: Shaul Hill/Alex Smith . . . worse.
    Seattle: Matt Hasselbeck . . . better.
    St. Louis: Marc Bulger . . . better.
    Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman/Luke McCown/Byron Leftwich . . . worse.
    Tennessee: Kerry Collins . . . comparable.
    Washington: Jason Campbell . . . better.
    Totals: 22 better, six comparable, four worse.
    Should also be noted I’ve never thought that Vick was a good QB, and I’m expecting him to be quite a bit worse now.

  92. Abe Froeman says: Jul 20, 2009 2:44 PM

    Since so many ppl have already ripped on you for this horrendous post, I’m gonna save myself from ranting against you here.
    You should, however, consider what I would have written here the most painful and incisive condemnation of you, you’ve ever seen.

  93. smiley says: Jul 20, 2009 2:45 PM

    RavensFan – You are out of your mind……I’m a Redskin fan and would take Romo or Rodgers over Flacco anyday. Stop being such a homer. By the way, aren’t you the Browns?

  94. idio says: Jul 20, 2009 2:49 PM

    Just want to point out a slight editorial misstep:
    You misspelled “Maximus Decimus Meridius” as “Maximum Decimus Meridius” (maximuM instead of maximuS) in the article.

  95. Big Stretch says: Jul 20, 2009 2:55 PM

    You are an idiot Florio. This stupidity of this list is not worth going into detail over.
    The only thing this site is good for is in season news (injuries , who’s starting each week, things like that) all other opinion articles and speculation are sh!t. You jumped the shark when you signed on with NBC, now it seems your only goal is to get people to click links and increase you page traffic number.

  96. nighthawk064 says: Jul 20, 2009 2:56 PM

    So according to your comparison:
    Vick=Trent Edwards =Aaron Rogers >Jake Delhomme?
    You really think so? LMAO

  97. Ravens Fan says: Jul 20, 2009 2:59 PM

    smiley,
    I would take 31 other quarterbacks (including Romo and Rodgers) and Vick over Jason Campbell.
    And yes we are the Art Modell Browns, with a Superbowl Championship. Thank you Art Modell.

  98. AlanSaysYo says: Jul 20, 2009 3:00 PM

    So Florio never retracts articles, but he should retract this one. This thing is just awful. It’s not even like a bunch of homers are angry about it… EVERYONE thinks it’s wrong. I would be pissed if I had just today told someone about how great this site was and then saw that Florio had posted this garbage.
    Take it down. Admit it was a mistake. It’s that bad.

  99. rpberteliot says: Jul 20, 2009 3:15 PM

    hey ravens homer. flacco, your fearless leader who’s better than aaron rodgers and tony romo because of his playoffs wins, was 9 of 23 for 135 yds and 0 TD’s and a 59.1 rating in his playoff debut. those’re mvp numbers right there. oh its okay next though he put up a phenomenal 50% comp pct (11 for 22) for 161 yards and, hey, a touchdown! and when it mattered most (afc championship), flacco came to play going 13 of 30 for 141 yards, 0 touchdowns, and 3 picks. he’s a golden boy alright. defend that, please.
    Florio, i love you, but you’re on crack for not giving rodgers enough credit. he exceeded my expectations ten times over. flacco was simply playing with the nfl’s best defense and a three headed running attack. remember, the packers were three missed field goals away from the playoffs and we’re not gettin any worse.

  100. Redruckus91 says: Jul 20, 2009 3:16 PM

    How do you know that he is still better than any of those players Florio? Having not played a game in over two season I am not inclined to believe that Vick is better than anyone on your list

  101. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 20, 2009 3:23 PM

    # zygi milf says: July 20, 2009 12:48 PM
    The only team that would sign Vick is one that wants to alienate their fan base enough so that they can move their team to another city.
    ————-
    At first glance it sounds like a perfect signing for the Vikings, but they don’t need to sign up another version of T-Joke to alienate the fans so they can move to LA. The fairweather fans sucks so bad here that ownership doesn’t even need to bother. They would boo him and boycott when he got here, but as soon as he threw his first TD, he would be the best QB EVER and was just misunderstood as a human being. That’s how it works here in Minnesota. Favre was an overrated INT machine who sucked worse than T-Jack……until he flirted with the Vikings. Now he’s the greatest QB to ever play the game and is just hitting the prime of his career! LOL

  102. Snarky Snide Sniper says: Jul 20, 2009 3:28 PM

    Hell, I would even take a suicidal Vince Young over Vick.
    Also, I’ve GOT to laugh at the Vick = Rodgers thing.
    Except my laugh isn’t a “that’s just crazy!” kinda laugh…
    but more of the sadistic, derisive, Nelson-Muntz-style “ha-HA!!” laugh…

  103. OranjelloJones says: Jul 20, 2009 3:31 PM

    “uh, Aaron Rodgers isn’t even CLOSE to comparable to Vick. Rodgers (albeit a limited sampling) had a passer rating of 105.8 last year. Vick never had higher than 81.6 and has a career avg of of 75.7.
    SO:
    Aaron Rodgers…Better
    Mike Florio…short bus”
    LOL…spot on. This is pageview bait, nothing more. Florio is good at reporting dirt but his analysis has always been sad, hence his stellar prediction record. If Florio really does belive this I have 2 questions: Can I play in your fantasy league and is it a pay league? ;)
    # Ravens Fan says: July 20, 2009 2:22 PM
    “So Joe Flacco is better a QB than Romo and Rodgers? I’d rather have either one leading my team over Flacco.”
    Yea Flacco is better than Romo or Rodgers. Romo still waiting to win a playoff game, and Rodgers waiting to play in one. Call me when either has as many wins as Flacco. Two.
    Guess that shuts you up”
    Ahhhh Skyrat fans, ya gotta love em. Idiots to a fault and a joy to laugh at.
    So Skyrat fan does that make Trent Dilfer one of the 30 greatest QB’s of all time? Surely it must based on your high minded logic that a Super Bowl is what makes one QB better than another. Your infantile logic would have you taking Dilfer over Dan Marino lol.

  104. smashmouth football says: Jul 20, 2009 3:38 PM

    Generally I like this website and consider it credible, but this article really brings Florio’s credibility (or sanity?) into question. I think it’s simply delusional to assert, just to take a few examples (there are more, it’s just not worth the time and trouble), that Vick is “comparable” to Romo, Pennington, Cassel, Schaub or Aaron Rodgers. On what planet?? Or better than Jason Campbell, Kerry Collins or even Kyle Orton? I don’t think so.
    Vick was always way overrated. Extremely inaccurate as a passer, could run some, but unless you can pass, a running QB is just not that valuable in the NFL, where lineman and linebackers will sooner or later incapacitate you if you rely on your legs too much. Plus, as others have pointed out, he hasn’t played in something like 2 years, there’s no reason to think he could even perform at his previous inadequate level.

  105. slutnuts says: Jul 20, 2009 3:42 PM

    here’s what bothers me about commentors. first, most people agree that it takes a good team to win playoff games, and superbowls. i.e, this is what makes eli’s and big ben’s accomplishments not so great. however, since romo and rodgers havent won playoff games, and vick has, therefore vick is better than these guys.
    for the argument, flacco falls into the same category as those who moved on because of the team. ravensfan up there, flacco has the potential to be a top 15 qb, but he isnt yet. rodgers and romo are.
    vick was never a prototypical qb in the league. his skills and athleticism had stopped winning him games long before he went to jail. any team wasting their time with him over trying to develop a young qb is insane.

  106. Majik Man says: Jul 20, 2009 3:43 PM

    I watched Vick dismantle the Packers in Lambeau. In the playoffs. In snow. Against a team who had never lost a home playoff game.
    I watched Tony Romo fumble a snap and lose a playoff game. I also watched Aaron Rodgers go 0-8 in games in which he had a chance at a game winning final drive.
    Vick may not be a great passer, but he’s not as terrible as most say he is. The guy can find ways to win though, which is something many others can’t.

  107. TheBigOldDog says: Jul 20, 2009 3:49 PM

    1) Vick hasn’t played in over 2 years. Nobody knows what his skill level is right now – nobody. So, saying he’s better than any active QB is rank speculation based on zero evidence.
    2) A QB is far more than simply a position player. They are one of the primary faces of the franchise. It’s unclear if any team wants to risk the likely circus that would come along with signing Vick. In fact, there are very few teams who would even dream of doing it. The risks simply far outweigh the benefits.
    Saying that there are “plenty of teams should want Vick” based on these 2 obvious points alone is simply laughable.

  108. glenneats says: Jul 20, 2009 3:50 PM

    i actually find this list to be somewhat fair. Everyone seem’s to judge QB’s on “fantasy” numbers these days. The reality is this, no one knows if Vick is gonna come back and be any good. However, before he was put away he was pretty good. I do not care about his passer rating or how many yds he threw for. The guy was a playmaker and a joy to watch. He had many good seasons and won some playoff games. I hope he comes back and proves everybody wrong…
    Vick beat Favre at Lambo 27-7 in the playoffs, no reason he cant do it to Rodgers…
    good post florio!

  109. Bob Nelson says: Jul 20, 2009 3:52 PM

    This is one of the worst LEFT WING LIBERAL pieces of crap ever written here.
    It is almost as bad as your stupid endorsement of Obama as the commie killer of capitalism.
    Obviously you have never looked at Vick’s statistics.

  110. JustinD says: Jul 20, 2009 3:55 PM

    Jesus Florio,
    You really are just a homer for any piece of crap to float through that criminal enterprise known as VT aren’t you?
    Vick was a garbage WR posing as a super garbage QB for years. He had no chemistry with his team and couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn if it would kill a dog for him and save him the trouble of getting blood on his Nikes. There is not one team in this league that would benefit with him behind center full time and I can’t imagine one being helped with him part-time as the circus would surpass TO’s.
    Let him join the CFL where he should have always been.

  111. zeakman says: Jul 20, 2009 3:56 PM

    As an ethically-bound, lifelong, die-hard, Vikes fan, I can honestly say I would rather have Mike Vick than Brett Favre, not for purposes of winning, simply because I hate Favre less. Is that bad?

  112. Mick730 says: Jul 20, 2009 4:01 PM

    So, if only 13 QBs in all of the NFL are better than Vick, why was it that no NFL team was willing to give the Falcons even a 7th round draft pick for this guy in April of this year?
    Vick is an unrepentant miscreant, deviant and felon who should never be allowed to play in the NFL again.

  113. Indyeagle says: Jul 20, 2009 4:01 PM

    Florio,
    OK, so how does it work? You have potential advertiser “A” who you are working on a deal with. They tell you that they have noticed that a lot of people may visit your site on any given Monday in the off-season, but they don’t know if these people are actually reading the crap you post. (I like the crap by the way) So, you post some very controversial blogs that you know will fire up the masses and then you tell the advertiser to make that check out to F-L-O-R-I-O with two O’s? Am I right?
    There is no other explanation for the nonsense in this article. None. I hate the Cowboys, but I am willing to admit that Romo is way better than Vick ever could be. Let’s not even get into Rogers or some of the others.

  114. dave says: Jul 20, 2009 4:05 PM

    retarded list given that vick’s been out of football for so long
    can’t really put him as better than anyone

  115. Provance1 says: Jul 20, 2009 4:11 PM

    I agree with most…this is a stupid article, but one that over 96 people including myself have posted replies to, so there must be some, although obscure genius that is Florio.
    The one issue I have is that its impossible to compare Vick’s capabilities today, to QB’s in the NFL that have been playing consistently. RIght now, I would put everyone on the list higher than Vick, without seeing Vick throw 1 pass. For some reason the Commish grants him permission to sign with a team, lets reconvene on this topic then.

  116. VoxVeritas says: Jul 20, 2009 4:11 PM

    “Dallas fans, for some odd reason, actually think Romo is a great QB.”
    He may end up great, he may not, but he’s a way better QB than Vick ever was or ever will be.

  117. JSon says: Jul 20, 2009 4:16 PM

    err..wait, let’s get this straight. Vick is better than some of the active 32 NFL quarterbacks?
    hmmm…
    How many passing TDs did he have last year? = 0
    How many rushing TDs did he have last year ?= 0
    How many passing yards last year? = 0
    How many rushing yards last year? = 0
    How many first downs? = 0
    How many audibles? = 0
    And someone how he’s better, with 0 stats to his name, he’s better?
    Oh but he was in JAIL you say. Well that in-and-of-itself qualifies him as the WORST quarterback in the league.

  118. VoxVeritas says: Jul 20, 2009 4:17 PM

    “Yea Flacco is better than Romo or Rodgers. Romo still waiting to win a playoff game, and Rodgers waiting to play in one. Call me when either has as many wins as Flacco. Two.”
    By that logic, Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Joe Flacco. Get real, Flacco had as many turnovers as TD passes and the Ravens won in spite of him, not because of him.

  119. VoxVeritas says: Jul 20, 2009 4:24 PM

    “I watched Vick dismantle the Packers in Lambeau. In the playoffs. In snow.”
    I watched Romo dismantle the Falcons in Atlanta. In December. Vick threw a TD pass to Demarcus Ware.

  120. VoxVeritas says: Jul 20, 2009 4:26 PM

    “The reality is this, no one knows if Vick is gonna come back and be any good.”
    I can. Vick’s not gonna come back and be any good. The reason is because he’s never been good, and he’s not going to all of a sudden get better after missing two seasons.

  121. Dan Olson says: Jul 20, 2009 4:28 PM

    You might as well add me to the list as being comparable or worse, and I have never taken a snap in my life. Sound ludicrous? Well….so was the article I just read.

  122. Jeff Smith says: Jul 20, 2009 4:29 PM

    Take a pill, people. Yes, this was a poorly conceived list. No, it does not mean the destruction of life as we know it.
    I liked your list, “Display Name”. I think it is close to the truth. You need to work on your display name, though.
    Great post, JCrompton–I nearly coughed up my drink on that one.
    Bob Nelson–since when is Florio’s opinion on a QB “left wing liberal”? What does that even mean? If he had dissed Vick in the article, would that make him right wing?

  123. Raiders757 says: Jul 20, 2009 4:29 PM

    Does anyone remember the Eagles/Falcons championship game? Vick’s sideline demeanor that day said volumes about him. He is in no way a team leader, and in no way a great QB. He was never a great QB, ever.
    That being said, even he had never been in jail, and was playing in the NFL, he still wouldn’t be a great QB.
    …and I’m sorry Raider haters, but to claim the Raiders are worse off, is a joke. Jeff Garcia is easily a better option than Vick. Always has been. Russell? Well, he still has something to prove before one could make such a claim, and the up side, is if Russell succeeds, he is younger and has more years remaining in his career than Vick does. It’s a gamble worth taking, because even at this point, getting Vick over Russell, is nothing more than a move sideways at this point. In this situation, it’s not fair to place the Raiders on the “worse off without him” list. Garcia is, and always has been a better QB, and Russell right now is at least as good as Vick is when it comes to actually playing QB, and not playing RB.

  124. Snarky Snide Sniper says: Jul 20, 2009 4:37 PM

    This bit from Florio is even further evidence that the media has a vested interest in seeing a black quarterback be successful.

  125. big G says: Jul 20, 2009 4:48 PM

    lol! you maggots are blowing rodgers really hard up in here! what have rodgers done in the nfl? has he won a playoff game? @ least vick have won in the playoff and went to the nfc championship game so when you recite stats remember what is most important in the nfl? WINNING!!!!! if it is about stats, all you dogging mcnabb have much better stats except for 2 or 3 qbs during his time in the league and most of you dog him daily!!!

  126. rpberteliot says: Jul 20, 2009 4:56 PM

    Hey Majik Man, you’re wrong!
    If i remember correctly, Aaron Rodgers got the Packers in position to take Atlanta (game one of eight) into OT, but Mason Crosby missed a 38 yard field goal. NOT AARONS FAULT.
    Oh and then there was when Aaron Rodgers led us into overtime against the last undefeated team left in Tennessee (game two of eight) the Titans won the coin toss, then marched down our defense’s throat and hit the GW field goal. NOT AARONS FAULT.
    And the next week against the Vikings (game three of eight) the defense let AP scamper for a 30 yard TD with about 2 minutes left. Aaron Rodgers got Crosby in reasonable range for a FG (especially in the dome), he missed it. Again. NOT AARONS FAULT.
    Against the Panthers (game four of eight), Aaron was able to put the Packers over the top with less than two minutes left in the game. Too bad the defense couldn’t hold it for a full thirty seconds. With 90 seconds and in need of a touchdown, Aaron Rodgers couldn’t pull magic out of his ass. Sorry. One of four.
    Against the Texans (game five of eight), Kris Brown hit a field goal leaving Aaron Rodgers 0 second to spark a comeback. Enough said? NOT AARONS FAULT.
    Against the Jaguars (game six of eight), MJD scored a go-ahead TD with just under two minutes left. Less than two minutes and in need of a touchdown, Aaron was unable to put it together. I’ll give you that one. Two of six.
    Against the Bears (game seven of eight) with just over three minutes left, Aaron Rodgers led the Packers down field in range of a 38 yard field goal. Mason Crosby had it blocked. Bears won the coin toss, drove through our defense, won the game. NOT AARONS FAULT.
    Those appear to be the only seven games which we lost by 7 or less points. So it’s 0-7, and five of those were either due to missed field goals, bad defense, or both. Only two can legitimately be accredited to Rodgers.
    Thanks.

  127. Ralphie says: Jul 20, 2009 5:18 PM

    @JimmySmith says…”Sometimes I think you post these silly stories just to get a reaction out of the readers”
    Spoken by a one-track asshat who is well accustomed with that dubious scheme.

  128. Donkeypunch666 says: Jul 20, 2009 6:41 PM

    I played quarterback in high school, does that mean I beat out some QBs too?

  129. empty13 says: Jul 20, 2009 6:48 PM

    gawd i hate… to admit… that i agree… with… vox…
    but as in earlier posts… vick isnt accurate. slower now… doesnt read defenses or CANT. doesnt prep for games. and certain defenses like balto, philly and tampa (and after a while nyg) just abused him horribly. so what if the falcons won those games 20-25% of the time. that isnt WINNING…
    the pack losing to atlanta in the playoffs had more to do with the pack phoning it in and reeves knowing what to do than anything vick did. the falcons d played lights out and atlanta got the lead. that was how vick and their d had to play. they werent going to come from behind esp against any team that would doggedly jam it down their throat.
    romo may not have won a playoff game or a season ending playoff elim game… but he didnt tank the 2nd half of 2 seasons in a row. just a “little thing”, but it counts for a lot…
    late 06 atlanta lost to cleveland, n’awlins, balto, philly (not vick), carolina, dallas. late 05 atlanta lost to then lowly green bay, tampa twice, carolina twice, chicago. in fact, geting drilled by tampa is a regular vick pastime.
    atlanta also had issues against detroit. yes, detroit. told ya he didnt prep for games. “hell we can beat them without trying”…

  130. atrain21 says: Jul 20, 2009 7:05 PM

    Stick to updating mike because we all know your analysis is absolutely retarded

  131. empty13 says: Jul 20, 2009 7:07 PM

    of course, sss, the media has a template and an agenda.

  132. slutnuts says: Jul 20, 2009 7:16 PM

    another great post “vick won in lambeau years ago, and went to the nfc championship game”
    well done. by this logic i guess that we can bring dilfer in and he is better than most qbs too, especially rodgers and romo. dilfer after all won a superbowl.
    if vick doesnt work out, teams should start going after aikman, because he was good years ago too. in a league of “what have you done for me lately” you vick apologists seem to ignore his last 3 years on the field.

  133. Shackman v2.0 says: Jul 20, 2009 7:20 PM

    Florio, we all see what you did here (and it worked.)

  134. EskinSux says: Jul 20, 2009 7:25 PM

    HA HA…..Dallas Cowgirls………comparable……..Hell……..vick won a playoff game…….Romo hasn’t won a damn thing…..Oh wait…..i forgot……Homo wasn’t drafted………Vick spent more than two years in the slammer……but still more playoff wins, funny how the QB of “Americas Team” has less a resume than an ex con…….

  135. Brownwood26 says: Jul 20, 2009 7:26 PM

    Part of me wants some of what you’re smoking. The other part knows that what you’re on is a weaponized hallucinagen.
    If you think Jason Campbell, Kerry Collins, Jeff Garcia and Trent Edwards are worse than Vick you’re an idiot, plain and simple. I usually defend you but I’m joining the mob on this one. Vick is a great ATHLETE, but a mediocre (at best) QUARTERBACK. When you can tell the difference between the two, let me know.

  136. ljm3210 says: Jul 20, 2009 7:44 PM

    This is the problem with society today. You people are actually taking the time out of your lives to debate weither this animal should be ranked 1 or 13 or 20. The bigger picture is weither or not he should even be able to play. I have been a long time NFL fan and if he is reinstated I will no longer watch any professional football. We pay these people millions of dollars for them to act like the laws don’t apply to them.
    Sad day

  137. Juan Corsair says: Jul 20, 2009 9:11 PM

    Mike Vick better than Aaron Rodgers? Based on what? Let’s look at their numbers:
    Aaron Rodgers – 2008:
    536 attempts for 341 completions with a total of 4038 yards and a completion percentage of 63.3%.
    Mike Vick – 2002 (Best Year):
    421 attempts for 231 completions with a total of 2936 yards and a completion percentage of 54.9%.
    Seeing that Vick has been locked up in a 4×6 for two years, been fed a diet of crappy prison food and is now 30 years old, how do you figure that Vick would even come close to what he was capable of in 2006, or that he would be “comparable” to Rodgers in 2009? I know you hate the Packers and all, but this is just being silly. Thanks for the laugh, though!
    As for Vick, the guy was overrated before he went to prison and certainly hasn’t improved since. Couple this with the negative PR any team would generate by signing him, I think his prospects are basically nil for playing in the NFL again… except maybe on the Raiders.

  138. firesmith says: Jul 20, 2009 9:15 PM

    Vick was, and is, and will be, a one trick pony.
    His career passing percentage is a lowly 55%
    He played well against bad teams, poorly against good teams, and has won zero Super Bowls.
    Oh, but by all means, put him out on the field again.
    Somewhere out there is a outside linebacker who loves his mutt.
    Seal the outside off, make him run up the middle, and the broadcasters are going to have to bite their tongues from saying “Dog Meat”.
    That fumbling, scattered brained, soul son of a female dog is going to get nailed and let howling begin

  139. antneejay2 says: Jul 20, 2009 9:25 PM

    You can’t be serious!
    …can you?

  140. Unswayed says: Jul 20, 2009 9:51 PM

    I love the guys going crazy for Schaub….So funny.
    Who was Vick starting ahead of in Atlanta? What has Schaub done in Houston that has been so spectacular?
    Vick may not be a great passer, alot of his passes were dropped by those worthless WR there. Saw the playoff game yesterday between Falcons/Cardinals. Easy dropped passes from “mr catchable ball thrower”.

  141. botchedextrapoint says: Jul 20, 2009 9:54 PM

    For all of the fans that took offence to this article the fact remains that while his passing stank in Alanta he turned them into winners because he could either pass or run. Isn’t that the point of football games. Having defended Vick i don’t think he should be back.

  142. smiley says: Jul 20, 2009 10:36 PM

    RacvensFan – You would take all thos guys over JC becasue you’re a Browns fan….Ravens fan…same thing. By the way, did y’all bring the staph infections with you or just leave them behind for the OTHER Browns? Goinf forward you will be called the Baltimore Browns. Thanks Art Modell.

  143. Majik Man says: Jul 20, 2009 11:04 PM

    Hey rpberteliot, what about…
    Week 4. Rodgers had the ball with under 5 minutes against the Bucs, down by 2. Throws a pick, 2 plays later, Bucs score a TD, game over.
    Week 5. 5 minutes to go, trailing Atlanta by 3, Rodgers throws a pick to Michael Boley, 3 plays later, Falcons run it in to go up by 10, Pack gets a garbage time TD, game over with no missed Crosby field goal. Where did you pull that out of?
    Week 9. Game tied, Packers have ball on their 18, with 4 minutes to go. Rodgers throws incomplete on 3rd and 7, Pack punts, and don’t get the ball back. Titans win in OT.
    Week 10. Down 1 and with over 2 minutes to go, Packers get the bal on their own 41, but Rodgers musters only 1 first down, throwing 3 incompletions. Crosby misses a 52 yarder.
    Week 13. 1:30 left to go against Carolina, Rodgers throws a pick on 2nd play of the drive, game over.
    Week 14. 4 minutes left and tied with the Texans, the Rodgers led drive nets only one first down, and the Pack punts. Matt Schaub leads Texans into FG range, Texans win.
    Week 15. Trailing the Jags by 4 with 2 minutes to go, Rodgers throws a pick to secure the loss.
    Week 16. Tied with the Bears with 3 minutes left, Packers get the ball at Chicago 35. Rodgers can’t move the ball into red zone, FG is blocked. Kyle Orton is able to march the Bears downfield in OT, game over.
    There’s 8 games, just like I said, with a chance to win or tie with less than 5 minutes left, all 8 were losses. 4 of them Rodgers threw a pick in the last 5 minutes to seal the loss.

  144. Sociofan says: Jul 20, 2009 11:26 PM

    Florio, I am really starting to have second thoughts about the quality of your analyses. Vick was NEVER a good quarterback. He was just a scat-back who lined up under center. He was not smart, not very accurate, fumbled too much and has never had a single 3000 yard season (you know, that’s only like 187 yds/gm). He was never a leader and will be even less so on the field now. No home crowd will respect him (nor any AWAY crowd for that matter) and he’s been away from the game for 2 years. How can you even begin to assert that he is better than ANY quarterback in the league right now? NBC is really causing your content to wither bro.

  145. mykchek123 says: Jul 21, 2009 12:05 AM

    All the VICK haters crack me up. No one remembered Atlanta had a football team until Vick showed up.!!!
    Arizona: Kurt Warner . . . better. -
    IF I HAD HIS WRs, I’D BE BETTER TOO. REMEMBER HE SUCKED TWO YRS AGO!!!
    Atlanta: Matt Ryan . . . better. -
    ONE SEASON WITH ONE OF THE BEST RBs IN THE GAME, AND WRs WHICH VICK DIDN’T HAVE
    Baltimore: Joe Flacco . . . better. -
    FLUKE, GREAT DEFENSE KEPT THEM IN THE HUNT!!!!
    Chicago: Jay Cutler . . . better. -
    GOOD WRs, BUT STILL HASN’T DONE ANYTHING BIG.
    Cincinnati: Carson Palmer . . . better. -
    TEAM HAS TAKEN A NOSE DIVE AND OFFENSE DID NOTHING LAST YEAR!!
    Indianapolis: Peyton Manning . . . better.
    AGREE! HE’S THE MACHINE!!
    New England: Tom Brady . . . better.
    HE HAS THE RINGS OF COURSE!!!
    New Orleans: Drew Brees . . . better.
    CAN’T ARGUE BUT HIS TEAM STILL SUCKS!!!
    New York Giants: Eli Manning . . . better.
    OWNS A RING, BUT STILL OVERRATED – NO PLEXICO!!!!
    Philadelphia: Donovan McNabb . . . better.
    AGREE, BUT HAS AN ALL AROUND TEAM TO BACK!!!
    Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger . . . better.
    GO BIG BEN!!!!
    San Diego: Philip Rivers . . . better. -
    HE HAS ONE MORE SEASON TO REALLY PROVE IT!!!
    Seattle: Matt Hasselbeck . . . better.
    CAN’T ARGUE BUT STILL NO RING!!!!!
    I don’t care what anyone says, I would take only 6 or 7 QBs before taking VICK!!! The reason why people argue so passionately about Vick is because HE WAS GOOD and PRODUCED MANY HIGH LIGHTS!!!
    HE PAID HIS DEBT TO SOCIETY, LET THE BROTHER PLAY!!! WE LET THE CATHOLIC CHURCH STILL OPERATE EVEN THOUGH THEY PROTECTED CHILD MOLESTERS, RIGHT?

  146. seriouslyflorioyousuck says: Jul 21, 2009 12:12 AM

    Florio, I know you have a new deal with NBC, but this new grasping at weak and mildly retarded half-baked concepts should end soon or hopefully you will begin to lose your fan base in droves… as it appears you deserve. What metric are you using to gauge quarterback performance? What about the extreme public distraction signing Vick would cause? When you make such an alarming claim you should do some Peter King style analyses instead of a half-hearted, ham-handed edict. I truly feel your quality has greatly decreased since signing with NBC and will now be looking more towards other sources like: http://www.kffl.com. You claimed that since NBC offered you a ball of cash that you wouldn’t change. But, you have! Instead of a handful of insightful articles you’ve decided to create false controversy with no actual analyses. Perhaps, that is what you have always offered and I’m only noticing it now, but you really are the worst journalist… ever. Lower then your despised “foe” “Len Pastabelly.” Goodbye

  147. seriouslyflorioyousuck says: Jul 21, 2009 12:15 AM

    Florio, I know you have a new deal with NBC, but this new grasping at weak and mildly retarded half-baked concepts should end soon or hopefully you will begin to lose your fan base in droves… as it appears you deserve. What metric are you using to gauge quarterback performance? What about the extreme public distraction signing Vick would cause? When you make such an alarming claim you should do some Peter King style analyses instead of a half-hearted, ham-handed edict. I truly feel your quality has greatly decreased since signing with NBC and will now be looking more towards other sources like: http://www.kffl.com. You claimed that since NBC offered you a ball of cash that you wouldn’t change. But, you have! Instead of a handful of insightful articles you’ve decided to create false controversy with no actual analyses. Perhaps, that is what you have always offered and I’m only noticing it now, but you really are the worst journalist… ever. Lower then your despised “foe” “Len Pastabelly.” Goodbye

  148. mykchek123 says: Jul 21, 2009 12:21 AM

    I love the comments on how Vick wasn’t a leader, wasn’t smart, a puppy killer, isn’t a good QB…blah blah blah!!!
    I guess “SOME FOLK” are easier to hate than others!
    Please Wiki Vicks Records and Milestones and compare his stats to the other SO CALLED better QBs!!!

  149. mykchek123 says: Jul 21, 2009 12:22 AM

    I love the comments on how Vick wasn’t a leader, wasn’t smart, a puppy killer, isn’t a good QB…blah blah blah!!!
    I guess “SOME FOLK” are easier to hate than others!
    Please Wiki Vicks Records and Milestones and compare his stats to the other SO CALLED better QBs!!!

  150. Jarmahead says: Jul 21, 2009 12:22 AM

    Vick comparable to Romo, but ELI is better….Jesus, give me a break.

  151. mastodon says: Jul 21, 2009 12:31 AM

    Romo comparable to Vick? You are drunk.

  152. Flip says: Jul 21, 2009 1:21 AM

    This was absolutely the worst article, if you can call it that, I have read in a long time.
    what is the criteria for calling him a better or even worse qb then the others?
    Is it qb rating?
    Is it wins?
    is it td-ints?
    Is it how Vick or other qbs rate in the red zone?
    You say no criteria, only some slanted personal opinion. Which seriously has to be skewed by God knows what.
    Was this based on when Vick was in his prime, or now? Because there is absolutely no way you can compare Vick in his prime to guys who have never taken a snap in the NFL. Worst and last article I will ever read by Florio.

  153. DanRooney says: Jul 21, 2009 2:37 AM

    Though I agree that Rodgers and Romo are a hell of a lot better than this clown, you have to factor in Vick’s rushing yards for other closer comparisons.

  154. jerzeerj56 says: Jul 21, 2009 2:42 AM

    I’m a Giants fan, but calling Michael Vick “comparable” to Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo is insulting. Give me a freaking break. You just called into question all of your credibility as a sports journalist. Very embarrassing.

  155. mb48 says: Jul 21, 2009 5:41 AM

    Hey Florio…who’s your drug dealer and can you give us some ?? Without doubt the most moronic article I’ve read about Vick since he went to the Iron Bar Hotel…

  156. tv says: Jul 21, 2009 7:35 AM

    Rodgers threw for over 4,000 yards last season – his first.
    Vick couldn’t trow for 4,000 yards in 3 seasons combined.
    Not even comparable dood!

  157. patsSB44champs says: Jul 21, 2009 11:11 AM

    Chad Pennington had an MVP-caliber season last year, and he’s only “comparable” to a run-first QB with a lifetime 54% completion percentage? Please.

  158. Kage10 says: Jul 21, 2009 11:56 AM

    Vick has been in jail for two years and people act like he just got done playing college ball. He is overrated and RUSTY. Have you ever sat out two years from a sport? Let alone a PROFESSIONAL sport? It’s amazing how your body can just disintegrate. I don’t see him being able to return and if he does, it won’t be anywhere near his previous form. Oh, did Vick win a Superbowl? No. The Falcons are a MUCH better team now with a REAL quarterback.

  159. stonehenge says: Jul 21, 2009 12:21 PM

    Except for those who sleep with Dogs, Michael Vick is the best, Michael Vick IS football.

  160. bakler5 says: Jul 21, 2009 2:13 PM

    Majik Man, Don Majkowski? Are you still bitter about Favre taking your place?

  161. brewcrewe says: Jul 21, 2009 7:17 PM

    Dude Michael Vick’s mom has popped a cap in Florio and is now posting stories bout her lil mikey, while posing as Florio!!

  162. djayjohnso says: Jul 22, 2009 12:16 AM

    Wait a second…..you are telling me Michael Vick is as good as Matt Cassell???? WTF??
    I’m looking at career stats right now.
    Vick’s best completion pct. 56.4%
    Cassells best 63.4%
    Vicks’s best QB rating 81.6
    Cassells best 89.4
    Number of times Vick has thrown for more than 3000 yards. ZERO
    Number of times Cassell has thrown for more than 3500 yards. ONE. THE ONE COMPLETE SEASON HE HAD!!!
    No way can you compare Cassell to Vick. Matt C. has surpassed Vick in almost every QB category in only one season!!! Vick has had 5 Seasons!!!!!
    Cassell just understudied under Bill Bellicheck, Vick just understudied under prison people!
    GIVE ME CASSELL ANYDAY!!! If I’m wrong, let’s see if Vick can get a contract “comparable” to Cassell now……

  163. GridironFanatic says: Jul 22, 2009 6:27 AM

    I do not know how you can safely assume Vick can come back to the NFL after 2 years away from the game be a better starting QB than almost half the QBs in the league. I doubt he was throwing out routes to Bubba from Cell Block – C while in the clink. On top of getting back into game shape he will have to learn a whole new playbook and offensive scheme when he joins a new team. To safely assume he is better than 13 starting QBs is a little crazy in my opinion.

  164. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Jul 22, 2009 9:35 AM

    # EskinSux says: July 20, 2009 7:25 PM
    HA HA…..Dallas Cowgirls………comparable……..Hell……..vick won a playoff game…….Romo hasn’t won a damn thing…..Oh wait…..i forgot……Homo wasn’t drafted………Vick spent more than two years in the slammer……but still more playoff wins, funny how the QB of “Americas Team” has less a resume than an ex con…….
    ———————————————
    Vox,
    You’re slipping. I scrolled down certain I would see you name with a well thought out highly biased response. Where is it?

  165. 4evrFalcons says: Jul 22, 2009 9:45 AM

    OK, guys, lets be honest. Vick is not now or ever has been a good QB. He is in all actuality just a fair running back.

  166. TheDPR says: Jul 22, 2009 10:44 AM

    Mike, Mike, Mike.
    Vick is not better than or comparable to most of the guys you listed.
    AT BEST, he’s comparable to five or six current starters and better than none.
    The only team I’d say would definitely be better off with Vick than their current guy is the Rams. In addition to them, there might be four or five teams where he’d be comparable to their current guy: 49ers, Browns, Vikings, Bucs. You could add the Jets & Lions but they just drafted their next guy so Vick’s out of the question for them.

  167. Eaglessuperbowlwins0 says: Jul 22, 2009 11:45 AM

    How can you compare? Did you see him play on the prison cell block team ? How are the defenses in prison compared to the Ravens ?
    So, please tell,,how do you compare Vick with say Aaron Rodgers ? Rodgers looks ok, eats well, did Vick get better food and exercise than say Cutler gets ?
    Vick is not an NFL QB , now,,maybe in time,,maybe he will never get back to prison shape ever agin..or NFL shape…you cannot compare

  168. Randy says: Jul 22, 2009 12:22 PM

    wow im pretty sure i could write a better article than this. joe flacco? huh. and then you have aaron rodgers, chad pennington, and tony romo comparable. first off joe flacco isn’t better than anyone up there and second mike vick probably wont even be a quarterback anymore because of how much he sucks. you must’ve just had a bad day before writin this or joe flacco got onto your account and started speakin his mind

  169. kronie3us says: Jul 23, 2009 3:55 PM

    He will end up on the Raiders, because big Al likes washed up players!!

  170. tye1971 says: Jul 23, 2009 5:51 PM

    I HAVE TO MAKE THIS COMMENT… ALL YOU MEN ARE A TRIP!!!! I AM A WOMAN WHO LOVESSSS FOOTBALL I AM A DIE HEART REDSKINS FAN !!! FOR 30YRS AND I LOVE JASON CAMPBELL BUT HES STILL LEARNING AND GROWING IN THIS GAME(BOY DOES HE HAVE A STRONG THROWING ARM!!!) IN A FEW MORE YRS HES GONNA BE AWESOME…. VICK IS BETTER/ WELL WAS BETTER THAN HIM BUT WE’LL SEE HOW HE DOES WHEN SOMEONE PICK HIM UP!! AS A MATTER OF FACT….. DALLAS NEED HIM MORE THAN ANYONE..OOPS I FORGOT ROMO DUMP JESSICA

  171. PatLeland says: Jul 23, 2009 9:43 PM

    You cant just say that someone puts up better passing numbers and say their better than vick. You have to consider that he was a better rusher from the QB position than anyone in NFL history and the way he impacted a defensive gameplan. This list still overrates him though. The Rodgers comparison is ridiculous obviously but the guy could definately find a role in NFL.

  172. mikeysoundtrack says: Jul 24, 2009 12:21 AM

    I’m with your analysis Florio. people don’t understand, no, he’s not the best passer in the league. I’d say he’s about Trent Dilfer caliber. But Mike Vick (in his hey-day) presents a problem for defenses that can’t be matched. It’s as if the O-coordinator can choose to pass and then not lose anything when nothing opens up and Vick is forced to run.
    It’s like having Brian Westbrook take the snap, threaten to pass, and go for 20+ yards on the ground. Mike Vick will be an addition for any team willing to completely change their offense to suit his unique talents.

  173. Broman17 says: Jul 24, 2009 3:27 PM

    All of you love to comment on his passing. Yes, Michael Vick is an average “thrower” at best. But have you bothered to compare his rushing statistics to these other QB’s? He was and will always be a run first pass second QB with below average accuracy and a cannon for an arm. He plays to his strengths, and there had to be a reason why he got a $130 million deal right?
    The dude will be dirty this year if given the chance and you will all feel stupid.
    Good article Florio

  174. jimicos says: Jul 24, 2009 9:19 PM

    Average passer? Vick? He’s not in the same county as average. Quick! Name all the wide receivers who’ve had a 100 yard receiving game when catching “passes” from Vick.
    Still thinking? I’ll wait…..
    It’s a trick question. He’s never had a WR hit 100 yards receiving in a game. That’s because he’s a crappy passer, folks. And if you look at the successful QBs in this league, most of them are very good passers. Occassionally you’ll have a Trent Dilfer squeeze through and win one because the rest of the team is great. But those are few and far between.

  175. RIChief says: Jul 26, 2009 10:00 AM

    Vick was a below average passer on his best day. Given has has done nothing for the past year, I would safely say he would be the worst QB in the league. Scrambler? A good one. Passer? horrendous.

  176. Patriot Fan says: Jul 26, 2009 1:36 PM

    Florio….this was frickin hilarious. For all the Vick lovers out there hear this: HE WAS AND IS A SHITTY QUARTERBACK. Now if you want to run an option attack or spread with your QB running the ball, then he’s about where Florio has him pegged. But if you want an NFL QB THAT CAN PASS THE BALL…..WELL, IT AIN’T VICK. Stop with the hype already. He was and is vastly overrated.

  177. JuicyMelon says: Jul 26, 2009 6:58 PM

    Did Vick write you a letter? I mean come on…Honestly, I believe Vick should and will get a chance to play again and if he’s good, the team that signs him will look brilliant. However, if I was a GM/Coach, I wouldn’t sign him. Team Chemistry is a weird thing. I just don’t see Vick earning a spot on a team being that he embarrased the league. Vick has to earn a right to play for a team again. Any team that signs him, with the exception of the Pats, needs to check themselves. I’m not even a fan of the Pats, but Coach Belichick has that he can take a player and make them a team player. No other coach in the league has that ability.
    I am a Vikings fan and I would hate to see them sign Vick. Vick has not proven to be a mentor, leader, or anything while he was in the NFL. Hopefully he had a chance to mature during his prison term, but I have my doubts.
    I personally want Vick to redeem himself, but he has to earn his redemption. A team throwing him millions of dollars and inserting him in the starting QB position is the not the redemption he needs.

  178. brewcrewe says: Jul 27, 2009 11:07 AM

    jimicos says:
    “Quick! Name all the wide receivers who’ve had a 100 yard receiving game when catching “passes” from Vick.
    Still thinking? I’ll wait…..
    It’s a trick question. He’s never had a WR hit 100 yards receiving in a game. That’s because he’s a crappy passer, folks. ”
    ___________________________________
    Jimicos, for the record I think Vick sucks as well, but I was so shocked at the stat that he never had a 100 yard receiver in a game, I had to check it out for my self……October 22, 2006 Alge Crumpler 117 yards against Pitt. Now, I don’t know if that is the only 1…I stopped after I found it, and I started with Crumpler , since he was the best receiver in Atlanta, at the time….p.s. a good indicator of Vick’s ability….I can’t imagine any team in the NFL trading their starting QB straight up for Vick. Including San Fran, and Minn.

  179. cutler223 says: Jul 27, 2009 12:00 PM

    Vick certainly is a below average passer, but there are no less than 13 teams who currently have a below average passer behind center. Of those and excluding teams with rookies handed the starting job, I see 6 for which Vick would be an upgrade, due to his ability to make plays with his legs and the comparable ineptitude of the current starter: Minnesota, Cleveland, San Fransisco, Tampa, Denver, Jacksonville and KC. Pretty goofy to call Vick comparable to Romo or Rodgers.

  180. BRNC says: Jul 27, 2009 4:45 PM

    As a Denver fan I know how valuable a quality QB could be this next season.
    However, my family and I will never watch the NFL as long as M. Vick is a part of it. I will burn my season tickets rather than resell them.
    If Denver signs Vick than our new Sunday family tradition will be protesting outside the stadium. Football is changing from the great american sport to a lesson for our kids on how to never act. When the transition is finished it will be a dead sport.

  181. jimicos says: Jul 28, 2009 6:42 PM

    brewcrewe says:
    July 27, 2009 11:07 AM
    Jimicos, for the record I think Vick sucks as well, but I was so shocked at the stat that he never had a 100 yard receiver in a game, I had to check it out for my self……October 22, 2006 Alge Crumpler 117 yards against Pitt. Now, I don’t know if that is the only 1…I stopped after I found it, and I started with Crumpler , since he was the best receiver in Atlanta, at the time….p.s. a good indicator of Vick’s ability….I can’t imagine any team in the NFL trading their starting QB straight up for Vick. Including San Fran, and Minn.
    ——————————
    Last time I checked, Alge Crumpler was not a wide receiver. Crumpler’s had 100 yard games. Vick can occassionally hit the bigger, slower, closer targets.

  182. Hovenaut says: Jul 29, 2009 2:08 PM

    Pure comedy. Talk about letting the dogs out.
    If, when, Vick comes back he’s kind of got this whole real/game speed thing to catch up to.
    Granted, at his best (2006?) he was a pro bowler. For running over 1,000 yds. Should he even get back to his gamebreaking best, I doubt we’ll see any transition towards productivity based pure passing efficiency.
    He’s getting a chance, best thing going for him.
    The ‘wildcat’ is still en vogue, second best thing going for him. But if, when he’s back on the field, I wouldn’t expect to be dazzled right off the bat.
    As for comparisions to other qb’s, sounds like delusional GM talk to me.

  183. Raiderlvr says: Jul 29, 2009 5:56 PM

    Vick should never play football again. I will boycott the NFL and all sponsors of the NFL. They will not get one dime from me. If Vick wants to redeem himself he should volunteer at the Best Friends Dog Rescue and if we’re lucky maybe one of the pits that was rescue from his Hell Home will recognize him. :) Karma Baby!!!!

  184. BigBear123 says: Jul 29, 2009 10:21 PM

    Check out this site dedicated to encouraging NFL players to make life rough for Vick once he returns.
    smackmyvickup.com

  185. SusanneD says: Jul 30, 2009 10:41 PM

    Raiderlvr you rock. I totally agree.

  186. kbcoltfan says: Jul 31, 2009 12:25 PM

    I’m not sure that I agree with comparing Vick with Aaron Rodgers…don’t get me wrong, Vick has mad talent but I won’t be comparing those two. I’m thinking that Vick will possibly end up signing with Carolina Panthers and get Delhomme outta the way! Move! Get out the way!

  187. KatieDC1 says: Jul 31, 2009 5:22 PM

    Wow! You guys are really into this, and good on you, as world and national news is pretty bad.
    Just wanted to say, does anyone want a sadist on his team? I volunteer at a shelter, have owned dogs all my life, and the important thing is: Do I want this guy on my team? Uh uh.

  188. brewcrewe says: Jul 31, 2009 6:22 PM

    Raiderlvr says:
    Vick should never play football again. I will boycott the NFL and all sponsors of the NFL. They will not get one dime from me. If Vick wants to redeem himself he should volunteer at the Best Friends Dog Rescue and if we’re lucky maybe one of the pits that was rescue from his Hell Home will recognize him. :) Karma Baby!!!!
    ___________________________________
    First, let me say, I don’t like Vick. I don’t like what I have seen of him as a person and I think he sucked as a QB, but……Does anyone else here think that he got a raw deal? Stallworth killed another human being and what did he get? There are child molesters that get less time in jail. I like dogs as much as the next guy, but come on. To say that you will boycott the NFL for allowing him to play is silly. Do you think no former convict should ever be employed ever again, or just the ones who fight dogs. He has a right to work again. Have you ever done something illegal,or immoral? I have, and I am happy that I wasn’t caught or if I was, Im happy someone showed compassion for a fellow human being. “Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.”

  189. JaggedMark says: Jul 31, 2009 6:34 PM

    To say that Flacco is better than Vick, yet Vick is comparable to Aaron Rodgers is absurd.
    You lose credibility with that.

  190. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Aug 1, 2009 9:46 PM

    SINNED?? Give us all a BREAK. This is about CREUELTY plain & simple. Attaching electrodes to dogs testicles, drowning non-violent animals. Be real. This is serial animal abuse.
    Mr. Vick had the resources to humanely put down the animals that wouldn’t fight, & as anyone that wants to look at this objectively will agree, the way he abused them is the real crime. The cost to euthanize animals is more than affordable for someone of (at the time) Mike Vicks means.
    He chose to torture these defenseless creatures. This was done for his “entertainment”. He punished animals for being non-aggressive by hurting them in a sociopathic, heinous way. Why does the group of Americans that keep acting like others are Vick haters continue to ignore this behavior??
    I remember when this was first going down & Deion Sanders opened a pro-Vick monologue one night with a “people show love all different ways for their animals, some let the animal kiss them on the lips, some don’t…etc. Mike Vick loved his animals, he just showed them love in a different way is all…”. Electrocuting animals genitals isn’t showing love for an animal Deion. And that goes for the rest of America’s population that Mr. mr2damngood73 is representing. I truly admire this whole “unity” & “stick together” mentality, but in this situation it is grossly misplaced.
    MIKE VICK IS A SICK EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING – THE SADISTIC WAY HE ABUSED THOSE DOGS IS WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE GOT, HE DESEREVED ELECTRODES ATTACHED TO HIM, HE DESERVED TO BE SLAMMED TO THE GROUND OVER & OVER. He got off easy with 19 months. Way too easy…

  191. Werls says: Aug 2, 2009 1:06 PM

    I think everyone missed the point. Sure Vick is going to have some rust but its not like the guy is 28 a 3 time probowl selection that comes at a significant discount due to his trouble past. I am aware he may not still have the flare he once did and I’m more of a Tom Brady through from the pocket kind of guy but you have to admit he can make things happen. He would be an excellent adition to any team who has the balls to sign him and take the public relations heat for it. Some owner will grow the balls and sign him and get a steal give him a low salery with alot of incentive benis and make him earn it. Personally I’d like to see Vick play in Cleveland. The headlines almost write themselves with him playing in The Dawg Pound.

  192. mike s says: Aug 3, 2009 7:07 AM

    he should go to the cfl that way the canadians can pay for his three hots and a cot. or did u forget that the hundred million dollar boy just spent 2 yrs on our dime.

  193. Dangerous Person says: Aug 3, 2009 4:46 PM

    ——————————————————-
    # JunkYardDogg1156 says: August 1, 2009 9:46 PM
    MIKE VICK IS A SICK EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING – THE SADISTIC WAY HE ABUSED THOSE DOGS IS WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE GOT, HE DESEREVED ELECTRODES ATTACHED TO HIM, HE DESERVED TO BE SLAMMED TO THE GROUND OVER & OVER. He got off easy with 19 months. Way too easy…
    ——————————————————-
    You are nuts to say that Vick got off easy. He spent a CONSIDERABLE amount of time in a REAL JAIL. He lost Millions of dollars. Not to mention the HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in future earnings. If the reason for the punishment was to reform…I bet he got the message…if the reason for the punishment was for vengeance…Consider vengeance delivered. People have done far worse and lost much less than Michael Vick.

  194. brenno says: Aug 4, 2009 7:43 AM

    Before Vick was sent to prison he wasn’t a top 32 QB in the NFL, how could he possibly be one now. Unless he found a coach in prison who taught him how to read a defence and hit a reciever in stride. Running fast helps you evade capture on cops or return punts its not a requirement of an NFL QB.

  195. Marconi says: Aug 4, 2009 1:51 PM

    Philip Rivers? Joe Flacco ? better than Vick? are you out of your mind? No wonder everyone is saying you don’t know a hoot about football, I gave you benefit of the doubt in the past Mr Florio you just confirm your critics comments.

  196. Raiderlvr says: Aug 4, 2009 4:30 PM

    @ brewcrewe – Great! We agree. Vick is not good on or off the field. As for a raw deal, we got the raw deal. He is now on the streets with our children. Read in detail the horrific things Vick did to these animals. He didn’t just have them euthanized. He tortured these animals who did everything in their power to make him happy. His behavior and the fact that he basically enjoyed it should be proof enough that he will do this again. If not to animals, then to people. I will NOT support the NFL, their sponsors, our my beloved “RAIDER NATION” if a team picks him up and I don’t think I am the only one who feels this way. My Sundays will be changed forever. Yes I think Vick or any convict should work, however not in a field that children and adults glorify. Unfortunately, I can not do anything about the Stallworth’s and OJ Simpsons of the world. They can speak out on their behalf. However, these animals can not speak out for themselves, so I will do it for them. People can make choices, these dogs didn’t have a choice at all.

  197. Arrial says: Aug 4, 2009 5:55 PM

    Wow. This is the first time I have been on this site, and this is the kind of garage I see?
    Mike Florio, you have zero credibility for being such a football moron, pardon the personal attack. If you don’t have the football IQ to make assessments on players who are coming off of a two year hiatus thanks in part to a prison sentence, then don’t post such obvious failure.
    “Comparable” to Aaron Rodgers? Romo? Garrard? BULGER? Are you kidding me.
    Saying that he is a “better” than quarterbacks like Shaun Hill, Jake Delhomme, Jason Campbell, Kerry Collins is the stupidest thing I’ve read in a while.
    Vick wasn’t a very good QB to begin with. He is inaccurate, careless with the football and incapable of leading a team. After going to prison, who is going to follow him?…..think about it. Who is going to call them their “Leader on the field” at this point?
    Do you get paid to do this? If so….return the money.

  198. mwcarolina says: Aug 4, 2009 8:01 PM

    ok this is my first time on this now my qb rankings of him and Vick
    Arizona: Kurt Warner . . . Duh, better
    Atlanta: Matt Ryan . . . repeat the duh and better
    Buffalo: Trent Edwards . . . comparable, sorry Bills fans, need to see more out of him
    Baltimore: Joe Flacco . . . better.
    Chicago: Jay Cutler . . . easy, better
    Cleveland: Derek Anderson/Brady Quinn . . . comparable to both of them!!
    Cincinnati: Carson Palmer . . . FAR better
    Carolina: Jake Delhomme . . . comparable
    Denver: Kyle Orton . . . comparable
    Dallas: Tony Romo . . . better
    Detroit: Matthew Stafford/Daunte Culpepper . . . Stafford (wait and see)…Culpepper (worse)
    Green Bay: Aaron Rodgers . . . WAY better
    Houston: Matt Schaub . . . better
    Indianapolis: Peyton Manning . . . Vick is not in his league
    Jacksonville: David Garrard . . . better
    Kansas City: Matt Cassel . . . comparable, we will see about this one in time
    Miami: Chad Pennington . . . better, Pennington can pass the ball
    Minnesota: Tarvaris Jackson/Sage Rosenfels . . . worse.
    New England: Tom Brady . . . Brady is SO far better than Vick it isnt even funny.
    New Orleans: Drew Brees . . . WAY better
    New York Giants: Eli Manning . . . better
    New York Jets: Kellen Clemens/Mark Sanchez . . . Kellen Clemens (worse), Mark Sanchez (wait and see, like Stafford), please Sanchez and Stafford are rookies, give them time
    Oakland: JaMarcus Russell/Jeff Garcia . . . JaMarcus Russell (comparable)…Jeff Garcia (better)
    Philadelphia: Donovan McNabb . . . Way better
    Pittsburgh: Ben Roethlisberger . . . of course better
    San Diego: Philip Rivers . . . you know it, better
    San Francisco: Shaul Hill/Alex Smith . . . comparable
    Seattle: Matt Hasselbeck . . . better.
    St. Louis: Marc Bulger . . . better
    Tampa Bay: Josh Freeman/Luke McCown/Byron Leftwich . . . Freeman (wait and see), McCown (wait and see) Leftwich (worse for now)
    Tennessee: Kerry Collins . . . uh, better
    Washington: Jason Campbell . . . as much as i HATE to admit it, Campbell is worse than Vick.
    so about Mike Florio’s list, you went a bit nuts with saying Vick is comparable to guys like Romo and Rodgers and thinking he is worse than rookies who havent played yet….as for where Vick goes, my guess is one of the teams i said worse, which means i think Washington or Minnesota may look into getting him, maybe Carolina or a surprise team.

  199. spanky36 says: Aug 5, 2009 9:42 AM

    I’m kinda excited to see Vick back. Everyone talks about how he hasn’t been able to work out because he’s been in prison…yeah we all know prisoners don’t work out at all! (sarcasm) I think he will be just as athletic if not more, but maybe a loss of some throwing strength. But he has always been fun to watch, and well that’s kinda what watching football is about.

  200. Dangerous Person says: Aug 5, 2009 2:45 PM

    —————————————————
    Raiderlvr says: August 4, 2009 4:30 PM
    @ brewcrewe – Great! We agree. Vick is not good on or off the field. As for a raw deal, we got the raw deal. He is now on the streets with our children. …. Unfortunately, I can not do anything about the Stallworth’s and OJ Simpsons of the world. They can speak out on their behalf. However, these animals can not speak out for themselves, so I will do it for them. People can make choices, these dogs didn’t have a choice at all.
    ————————————————–
    Raiderlvr…Insanity! Are You seriously worried about Mike Vick being “on the streets with our children”. He is no more of a danger to society than Paris Hilton (Drunk Driving), Danny Heatly (man-laughter via reckless driving), or Robert Downey Jr (drugs, drugs and more drugs)- [hows that for a random assortment of famous criminals]. He got busted running an illegal dog fighting operation…went to prison…lost more money than all the money you and I and the next guy will make in our entire lives. That punishment was more that reasonable. Mike Vick is more stupid than dangerous.
    Stop being such a fascist…give the guy a chance to redeem himself.

  201. leon kinne says: Aug 5, 2009 10:10 PM

    boy you did it shined a light and the roaches scattered. it is a fair opinion but only that. we understand why pro games are on Sunday it is more important or the same thing as church. that should make saint roger overjoyed. Vick is a free agent, and like any free agent he will have to prove he can play, as to his legs after two years running from Bubba and Ishmael his legs must be good, as he does not walk all scrunched up.

  202. smittydvd says: Aug 6, 2009 5:50 PM

    The NFL is a copycat league. Now that Green Bay ‘hasn’t ruled out’ Vick, now there are 4 other teams who are courting the possibility.

  203. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Aug 7, 2009 7:44 PM

    Dangerous Person says: August 3, 2009 4:46 PM
    You are nuts to say that Vick got off easy. He spent a CONSIDERABLE amount of time in a REAL JAIL. He lost Millions of dollars. Not to mention the HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in future earnings. If the reason for the punishment was to reform…I bet he got the message…if the reason for the punishment was for vengeance…Consider vengeance delivered. People have done far worse and lost much less than Michael Vick.
    ______________________________________
    Let us get this straight, you advocate only 19 months in jail & and another shot to play in the NFL including millions of dollars in endorsements for violent, sadistic serial killers? Then you really do think like a Dangerous Person. Because, make no mistake about it, even though maybe not in the “conventional” sense, Michael Vick is a sick, twisted serial killer. And yes bro, I do believe he got off easy.
    Are you honestly proposing that someone who has enough hatred & sadistic rage in them to attach electrodes to dogs’ balls & electrocute them FOR SPORT is someone that can change??
    Displaying that kind of violent behavior to ANYTHING that cannot defend it self is PURE EVIL bro. What would possess any sane individual to take a good natured creature & repeatedly slam it into the ground for entertainment? Cruel & violent serial killing of people isn’t acceptable in our society, people would be screaming to bring back the death penalty if you electrocuted and violently killed people like Vick did those animals.
    It’s scary to read here that people feel it’s ok to TORTURE abuse, maim, electrocute, drown, horrifically beat & serial kill animals just for sh*ts & giggles. Even more frightening is to have people say “others have done much worse” and in the same breath explain Vicks loss of income, like he’s been harshly treated.
    .
    “The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
    Mahatma Ghandi
    Seeing all the Vick defenders here certainly reminds us that we have a long way to go…

  204. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Aug 7, 2009 7:52 PM

    Dangerous Person says: August 3, 2009 4:46 PM
    You are nuts to say that Vick got off easy. He spent a CONSIDERABLE amount of time in a REAL JAIL. He lost Millions of dollars. Not to mention the HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in future earnings. If the reason for the punishment was to reform…I bet he got the message…if the reason for the punishment was for vengeance…Consider vengeance delivered. People have done far worse and lost much less than Michael Vick.
    ______________________________________
    Let us get this straight, you advocate only 19 months in jail & and another shot to play in the NFL including millions of dollars in endorsements for violent, sadistic serial killers? Then you really do think like a Dangerous Person. Because, make no mistake about it, even though maybe not in the “conventional” sense, Michael Vick is a sick, twisted serial killer. And yes bro, I do believe he got off easy.
    Are you honestly proposing that someone who has enough hatred & sadistic rage in them to attach electrodes to dogs’ balls & electrocute them FOR SPORT is someone that can change??
    Displaying that kind of violent behavior to ANYTHING that cannot defend it self is PURE EVIL bro. What would possess any sane individual to take a good natured creature & repeatedly slam it into the ground for entertainment? Cruel & violent serial killing of people isn’t acceptable in our society, people would be screaming to bring back the death penalty if you electrocuted and violently killed people like Vick did those animals.
    It’s scary to read here that people feel it’s ok to TORTURE abuse, maim, electrocute, drown, horrifically beat & serial kill animals just for sh*ts & giggles. Even more frightening is to have people say “others have done much worse” and in the same breath explain Vicks loss of income, like he’s been harshly treated.
    .
    “The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”
    Mahatma Ghandi
    Seeing all the Vick defenders here certainly reminds us that we have a long way to go…

  205. OldRaiderFanUgg says: Aug 9, 2009 5:16 AM

    Don’t know what you’re using for comparison; I can only assume Vick of old. Personally I would not attempt to compare an active player with someone that’s been out the game for two years. Have to prove he still has it. I will only say that some on the list you mentioned would be fighting for a job but I’d have more than Vick in that fight. I would have some new talent in the mix and the better man will be the starter. Vick may be so rusty he couldn’t make the team let alone start. Refusing a backup role??? Vick better shut up and be happy any team at all is willing to pick him up.

  206. pigskinprophet says: Aug 9, 2009 8:49 PM

    See what Vick might do http://sportsbetting.ws/2009/06/15/new-top-ten-list-whats-next-for-michael-vick/

  207. reymalalugarox69 says: Aug 9, 2009 10:11 PM

    Ok. Here’s a simple true comment, MIKE VICK SUCKS! That loser should still be in prison. And even before he got caught, he wasn’t any good anyway. He just made his 15 yard QB scrambles every game to make the highlight reel every night. But all together how many super bowls had he got the falcons to?NONE. And I don’t dislike the Falcons but if I were their GM I would have drafted Troy Smith from Ohio State or any other QB for that matter two years before he got caught. If I were a fan of any team considering picking him up I would rather have the Freecreditreport.com singer or an Umpa-Lumpa playing QB. The comissioner should have had him banned from the leauge and I hope Michael Vick himself reads this comment. And how do you think those ratings are even close to right? Every starting QB in the NFL has more talent in one hand than Mike Vick will ever have in his whole body. Who wants a deadbeat who’s been out of the leauge for two years anyway? And if someone does sign him I assure you HE WILL NOT START. he’ll get a 2nd string backup job AT BEST. For all I care Mike Vick can go to prison for life. he did this as punishments to the dogs who lost in the dogfights, such as Electricution, Being Drowned (and or sufficated), Being Hung, and last but not least being beaten and lit on fire. I tell ya what kind of a heartless jerk would do this to theses helpless animals? Yeah he says sorry but i dont give a freakin crap. thats all from me.

  208. Dangerous Person says: Aug 10, 2009 9:37 AM

    ———————————————————————–
    JunkYardDogg1156 says: August 7, 2009 7:52 PM
    Let us get this straight, you advocate only 19 months in jail & and another shot to play in the NFL including millions of dollars in endorsements for violent, sadistic serial killers?
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    I believe that 19 months in Jail is adequate punishment for killing dogs. I do NOT believe that killing dogs is the same as killing people. As a matter of fact…I think that 19 months (23 months of “confinement”) was excessive for the crime that he committed.
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    JunkYardDogg1156 says: August 7, 2009 7:52 PM
    Are you honestly proposing that someone who has enough hatred & sadistic rage in them to attach electrodes to dogs’ balls & electrocute them FOR SPORT is someone that can change??
    ———————————————————————–
    Honestly…I do not care if he ‘changes’. I just don’t want him to commit the crime again. If he does …then he will be caught and return to prison.
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    JunkYardDogg1156 says: August 7, 2009 7:52 PM
    people would be screaming to bring back the death penalty if you electrocuted and violently killed people like Vick did those animals.
    ———————————————————————–
    I agree, that is because most people value humans more than dogs.
    ———————————————————————–
    JunkYardDogg1156 says: August 7, 2009 7:52 PM
    It’s scary to read here that people feel it’s ok to TORTURE abuse, maim, electrocute, drown, horrifically beat & serial kill animals just for sh*ts & giggles.
    ———————————————————————–
    Now you are just being dramatic. I do not advocate the abuse and needless killing of animals. I think what Mike Vick did was morally wrong. I agree that dog fighting and animal abuse should be illegal.
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    JunkYardDogg1156 says: August 7, 2009 7:52 PM
    Even more frightening is to have people say “others have done much worse” and in the same breath explain Vicks loss of income, like he’s been harshly treated.
    ———————————————————————–
    I guess you think he should be tortured or killed? Prison time and losing 100M US is not enough?
    As I have said in other posts. Vick is more stupid than dangerous. I am not a Mike Vick fan. I simply argue for the principle that he should get a chance to earn money now that he has paid his debt to the US government. If no team wants to take a chance…then he gets an opportunity to try his hand at some other profession.
    Thats all…

  209. This is not news says: Aug 10, 2009 12:26 PM

    Buffalo should sign Vick now that they are relevant with Terrell Owens. As soon as TO starts crying about his QB, Vick will kick TO’s ass and be re-instated as ‘hero’ NFL fans.

  210. NagaSwan says: Aug 11, 2009 12:37 PM

    I love the “He has paid his debt to society so all is forgiven mentality.” I hope you all don’t hire convicted child molesters to baby-sit your kids.

  211. pfii63 says: Aug 12, 2009 10:45 AM

    Wrong on Romo, Rodgers, Schaub, and Pennington.
    Wouldn’t make changes in New York (Jets) or Tampa, as the young QBs there have the potential to be far better than Vick.
    Florio’s 19 gets whittled down to 13 pretty quickly.
    And that’s before we raise the issues of character.
    If I were the head of personnel of an NFL franchise, I wouldn’t touch this guy with a ten foot pole. His upside will never outshine the poison that he brings to the NFL. Sure, they guy has a right to pursue a career in the NFL, but that doesn’t mean that anyone has to lower their standards enough to hire him.

  212. trathavon says: Aug 12, 2009 11:37 AM

    list is dead on some of the comparables though are easily worst….Vick is a great Qb…trust me he will be back money talks and we know what walks

  213. scotty_poacher says: Aug 13, 2009 12:55 AM

    HAHA Matt Shaub was the better QB in Atlanta when VicktheDick was trying to be an NFL QB, sorry Florio, your list is full of holes. And to trathavon are you insane? please do share on how Vick is a great QB, if you would like I could post his career #’s for ya? He is 2 years removed from football let alone his body talking a pounding week in and week out. He couldnt stay healthy when he was playing tag in Atlanta!!!

  214. Tiberime says: Aug 13, 2009 10:49 AM

    This clown is an animal himself. He should be dealt with on an eye for an eye basis.
    1)Beat him and body slam him
    2)Light him on fire
    3)Electrocute Him
    4)Drown Him
    And ok NOWWWWW…..
    5)reinstate him to the NFL
    Where after such treatment he would likely rival that of his past performance.

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