Comments on: Is a further suspension of Vick justified?

By: amanuel

amanuel — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 12:51:09 +0000

mr Mike florio. u were very kind in listing all the wrong deed’s Vick had committed leading up to his arrest, and eventual conviction. but, there also lays the ignorance to consider the list of all he had lost every since. tho, justifiably so because his heinous or “high-anus”! acts are blinding to anything else but indignation. but the fact is that YOU are a JOURNALIST! and ur disdain for his high-anus acts should’t blind you from telling the facts from both sides. there also lays the ignorance off all the mickael Vick condemners. no one is “saint” enough to condom that blindly!.

By: Steeler4life

Steeler4life — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:13:17 +0000

@ eagledan-
You’re an idiot. I you had a skill that very few had and you committed a felony worse than killing dogs. You would get your job back because of the profit making potential you bring. You are in America.
The only way you wouldn’t is if the job couldn’t hire felons.

By: vick supporter

vick supporter — Sat, 08 Aug 2009 10:30:57 +0000

idiots. vick was banned indefinitely from the NFL before he pleaded guilty. That’s more than being suspened. Suspension carries an automatic reinstement.
If you want beat a dead horse go ahead.

By: Raiderlvr

Raiderlvr — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:39:02 +0000

I agree with Major13…I too am a pit bull owner and there is no dog out there as loyal. Vick should never be allowed to play again and if he wants to redeem himself, he should volunteer at the Best Friends rescue. If were lucky… maybe one of the pits there will recognize him. Karma baby!!!

By: BRNC

BRNC — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 16:50:59 +0000

As a Denver fan I know how valuable a quality QB could be this next season.
However, my family and I will never watch the NFL as long as M. Vick is a part of it. I will burn my season tickets rather than resell them.
If Denver signs Vick than our new Sunday family tradition will be protesting outside the stadium. Football is changing from the great american sport to a lesson for our kids on how to never act. When the transition is finished it will be a dead sport. If you want to save football for future generations, SAY NO TO VICK.

By: eagledan

eagledan — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:57:24 +0000

First before you comment on the NFL and Vick, ask yourself this! Would you still have your Job if you comitted similar crimes as Michael Vick!
I know I would lose my job, and never be allowed to work in that job again! In fact any felony would cost me my job!

By: Silverdog

Silverdog — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 13:06:19 +0000

Why in the world do some people defend bad/mean people? What happened to the desire to be judged on the “content of their character”? Most of the defenses involve trying to point out situations where some one did something worse – ignoring intent, and received a lighter punishment. Really? We’ve stooped this low? Most agree that the people in those instances should have been punished much more severely. Talent trumps character for some of you? Geez, you must be the same people that think “street cred” is a good thing. The moral decline continues. Second chances are for mistakes. Mistakes are unintended. What he did was planned, and financed. Those of us in the real world have to deal with real consequences. For those of you who defend poor character – what does that really say about you? Now that you have reacted emotionally, take a moment to thing abouot it rationally.

By: jimicos

jimicos — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:17:57 +0000

muchmaligned says:
July 26, 2009 12:37 PM
I find it hilarious to read the comments of you douche bags opining at the mistreatment of dogs, which is wrong, as you stuff your faces with bacon and eggs and burgers and brats. Absolutely hilarious!
You can rest assured that those cows, chickens, pigs, etc were gently coaxed into death (of old age) in a meadow full of wildflowers, near a rolling creek.
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Are you implying Vick killed those dogs for food?

By: jimicos

jimicos — Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:17:15 +0000

Unionite says:
July 26, 2009 10:40 AM
I just hope that all the vitriol, hate and disgust for Michael Vick IS OF THE SAME VEROCITY when it is CLEAR that Ben Rothlisberger actually RAPED A WOMAN!!! Will all of you “law and order” people have as much hate for Ben???? You gonna kick Ben Rothlisberger out of the NFL permanently??
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As soon as Roethlisberger strangles her to death I’ll be right there with you.

By: joevan

joevan — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:15:49 +0000

With the list of idiotic things HE chose to do and did them with such disgrace and no respect for the animal society. He should be treated just like any other felon the just comes out. Go to the half way house for a few months, prove yourself and then IF they feel like it he can live with a family member until the parole officer clears him to live someplace else. Why should he be any different?
Oh, and interstate gambling?
hell – let’s finally admit Pete Rose in the baseball hall of fame. Look at that second chance he ain’t getting?
I would not change my opinion about McVick.
With that said.
With so many other comparisons to what the superstar athletes do and get convicted and seemingly just sweep their crap under the carpet. Just when is enough going to be enough? Just because things were handled differently does not mean it should continue that way. someone has to say NO! enough is enough.

By: hotbite

hotbite — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:49:42 +0000

If Vick was a Computer Programmer or some other profession, he would never be able to find a job again; 4 weeks is no big deal
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True, but he could still occupy a seat in US Congress!

By: muchmaligned

muchmaligned — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:45:53 +0000

Totally incorrect. I hate PETA as much as other self-righteous turds.
I have eaten damn near every kind of animal (not dog, but something close). Animals taste good. However, the meat my family eats, I killed them. The tomatoes we eat, I grew them.

By: hotbite

hotbite — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:43:53 +0000

“If Vick was a white TE would the public and media be on his side they way they seem to be?”
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Even more so, actually. Who’s that white kid who was on the Jags (Matt Jones, I think), who couldn’t get off the drugs. All the freakin’ talent in the world but wasted on drugs. If he were black, he’d be all over the sports pages. But not for Jones. So much so, that I’m not even sure I’ve got his name right.

By: hotbite

hotbite — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:40:40 +0000

“Little and Stallworth never intended to kill anyone…You dont have to be a moral bankrupt to do what they did, which isnt the case regarding Vick.”
THANK YOU!!!
Why is this so hard for people to grasp?!?
Um, excuse me, but….Why is it so hard for you people to grasp that drunk driving accidents are NOT “accidents”! Over 20,000 people are killed each year in the US but for some stupid reason, idiots like Stallworth think that somehow it won’t happen to them. You get behind the wheel drunk and you are intending to kill someone. Keep your drunk A## at home!

By: RRuin

RRuin — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:27:29 +0000

Vick shouldn’t be suspended.
He should be BANNED.

By: madatsc

madatsc — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:59:40 +0000

“Wow,
So much for America being the land of second chances. Tell me something, what in your eyes constitute a second chance?”
This is still the land of second chances. Vick is a free man and can attempt to live the American dream as he sees fit. However, I don’t understand how his second chance HAS to be the NFL. They are an independent and elite institution and can place restrictions on who can join. There are any number of occupations which Vick may pursue, up to and including, the UFL. Where is the outcry for all the other felons who cannot pursue their second chance with their previous employers?

By: Facts Domino

Facts Domino — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:43:42 +0000

His 2nd chance is him walking his ignorant ass out of prison.
With that in mind I want to buy the felon a table dance.
Ms. Kazemi, go to the dunce table and perform your duties.

By: VoxVeritas

VoxVeritas — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:29:24 +0000

“My point is that you’re a hypocrite and a self-identified douche bag. When you stop eating mass murdered animals, and stop boiling sea creatures alive, and stop eating venison, then you’ll have some credibility on this topic.”
$10 says you’re wearing some kind of leather right at this moment. Peta types usually do. Love it when the “save the rainforests” people protest with paper signs nailed to wooden pickets, too. Now go eat a defenseless tomato or something.

By: VoxVeritas

VoxVeritas — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:25:23 +0000

“american blacks are spoiled. and stupid and violent.”
Bet you wouldn’t say that to Donovan McNabb’s face, bubba.

By: sburks1906

sburks1906 — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:23:32 +0000

Wow, So much for America being the land of second chances. Tell me something, what in your eyes constitute a second chance? http://www.theklowntimes.net

By: Kidekk

Kidekk — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:21:34 +0000

Even more, Empty13, if you’re going to go with the whole notion that American blacks are spoiled, stupid and violent, wouldn’t it be fair to say that American whites are racist, cruel, and violent? There’s far more history to suggest that white people have a tendency of being racist (and are the most racist) and even going as far to kill other races (small pox blankets, lynchings, etc.) because they did not like them. So why wouldn’t I go around making the asinine statement that all white people are racist, given that forty or fifty years ago I could not walk into some establishments without being called an n-word, sixteen years ago I was called an n-word by other kids while playing ice hockey, there are still segregated proms going on in Mississippi (a state I would be scared to drive through because I am black), and there are a bunch of other race inspired crimes by whites that go on? Yes, there are black people who are racist, just like there are Chinese, Japanese, Indian, etc. people who are racist. Doesn’t dismiss the fact that racism still exists, which I know you’re shocked to hear considering the type of stuff you write on this site.
Once again, you’re an idiot who just hates black people, or at least the ones who speak out of turn, because, you know, black people are supposed to act the way people like you want us to act. I bet you miss the good ole days when we were refined to our slave quarters and the n-word was how you referred to us stupid, spoiled, violent people. I know you must hate that there’s a black guy running this country, and while I don’t agree with everything he does, I love the fact that he is in office just because of people like you. President Obama. Ahh, don’t you like the sound of that? A black man secured enough of the vote to win an election. I know you love it.

By: madatsc

madatsc — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:21:25 +0000

“My point is that you’re a hypocrite and a self-identified douche bag. When you stop eating mass murdered animals, and stop boiling sea creatures alive, and stop eating venison, then you’ll have some credibility on this topic. Until then, take your righteous indignation and kick rocks.”
Wow, a pussy plant eater has an opinion, what a surprise. Am I to believe that only vegetarians are allowed to offer an opinion about tortured dogs? Because they deny nature and eat plants, they have a superior morale scope from which they only can empathize with tortured animals. There is a big difference between the useless killing and torturing of animals in a fighting ring and killing for sustenance. Should I assume that the beef I eat comes from a cow that was electrocuted by having wires attached to its testicles? It must be fun sitting on your pedestal. Go eat some tofu and leave the sports commentary to the men.

By: GUNS527

GUNS527 — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:12:53 +0000

Quit glorifying these misfits in the sportsworld as there are plenty of athletes to fit roster spots. Weed out this brainless & criminal segment, and as mentioned, boycott a team that stoops so low to employ one of them. Maybe then the message will get through to the owners; a few empty stands would shake their core.
But that would be impossible because too many fans only want to get that ‘rush’ regardless. For those who don’t get it, perhaps you got the bucks or you don’t have a conscience.
And most players appear to protect their own, but don’t fool yourself, in reality many of them wouldn’t miss that segment. They have families and morals too.
At least most sponsors have drawn the line and we can too. Engaging in that lifestyle, how long would your employer put up with that? Vick is scum and doesn’t deserve a second chance. Let him find out the difficulties in getting employment!

By: Kidekk

Kidekk — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:53:06 +0000

Empty13, you’re racist. And an idiot. But I guess the former would imply the latter.

By: muchmaligned

muchmaligned — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:39:10 +0000

“The only thing more hillarious than douche bags opining about the mistreatment of dogs are the douche bags who somehow think there is an underground ring of cow and pig fighting. Because apparently we get our hamburgers, brauts, etc. from farm animals used in fighting.”
A specious argument and an intentional misinterpretation of my point. Also, way to leave out chicken (cock) fighting rings!
My point is that you’re a hypocrite and a self-identified douche bag. When you stop eating mass murdered animals, and stop boiling sea creatures alive, and stop eating venison, then you’ll have some credibility on this topic. Until then, take your righteous indignation and kick rocks.

By: trixstal

trixstal — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:21:23 +0000

I plan to avoid any team that signs this poor excuse of a man. Sorry. There’s something really wrong with a person that can do what he did, and a short stint in a cell is NEVER going to correct that. The only change of thought process in his mind over that time was his disappointment that he got caught. That’s it.
I wouldn’t let this guy work as a drink vendor in the nose-bleed section.
The NFL has lowered its standards over the years, but bringing this human trash back is truly alarming.

By: joevan

joevan — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 13:19:10 +0000

Where did the comparison to eating burgers / eggs / chicken, etc come into play?
I worked at a packing house for a few years so, you are talking to the wind if those comments are going to make a dang bit of difference to me.
He is and will always be a disgusting human being to me for what he has done.
IMHO he has the mentality of just being po’d that he got caught. Then he stands up there all on the pitty pot like anyone should give a rats ARSE about his life at all.
I would truly like to know how much money HE has spent outta his pockets to help the people that rescued whatever dogs they could from his disgusting place. Those people are most likely spending a ton of money on them to help.
No excuse.
Any of the sportstime people that are commenting that he should play – don’t worry honies, there will be another guy to come along that you will all fall in love with again. Let him to and rot.

By: wrath4771

wrath4771 — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:54:00 +0000

The only thing more hillarious than douche bags opining about the mistreatment of dogs are the douche bags who somehow think there is an underground ring of cow and pig fighting. Because apparently we get our hamburgers, brauts, etc. from farm animals used in fighting.
With that, how can Vick not miss a year of football? Like the article said, Jones missed a year without ever being convicted and Goodell’s approach so far to the Conduct Policy has been to suspend guys for a year (Stallowrth).
Also, it’s a dream world if you think after serving time for an illegal gambling ring you may not face further punishment from your work place that is very sensitive to the issue of gambling and the appearance that you could be compromised by organized crime and the possibility (even if remote) that you could have or end up throwing games.

By: joevan

joevan — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:53:45 +0000

He has NOT paid his debt to the animal society. Not one penny. Oh sure, he can throw money to them and attempt to look good but, facts still remain about what he did. IMHO I would bet he is more PO’d about getting caught than anything else. Plus, any team that would bring him on is gonna have protestors and demonstrations at the games. Do they want to subject their team image to that? I would think not. And, what kind of message is that sending to youth? You can tie animals up to car axles, leave them there and then of course make money at teaching them to fight other dogs? That is disgusting. The one thing that came out of this is that many of the McVick dogs have been rehabed. How much did vick pay to those people who spent countless hours rehabbing these dogs? What about their vet bills? People that are convicted of animal cruelty should have their pictures posted on shelter walls so they don’t have any chances of adopting any animals from shelters.

By: Kidekk

Kidekk — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:46:07 +0000

“He consistently and deliberately killed countless LIVING creatures on this earth. I don’t think we have seen the last of his mentality!”
As do farmers, hunters, workers at animal shelters, and even me by way of eating meat. What’s your point?