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Some gamblers unfazed by possible Roethlisberger distraction

NFL_roethlisberger4.jpgAs Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger faces a potentially significant distraction in Nevada, some of the folks who participate in the state’s primary industry don’t think that the situation will affect his performance — or the team’s prospects — in 2009.

Dan Majors of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette spoke with a sampling gamblers who believe that the pending sexual assault charges will have no affect on the player or the team.

But it’s hardly a scientific study; Majors’ article reflects interviews with only four gamblers, and he points out that none of them expressed concern that the allegations will affect Roethlisberger.

Frankly, given the paper’s reputation for periodically shaking the pom-poms for Pittsburgh’s pro football team, we can’t help but wonder whether this article is aimed at keeping the local fans from fretting about whether the looming civil case will undermine the team’s prospects.

If so, the logic is a little goofy:  “Hey, folks.  People who make their living betting on sports currently think that none of this will hurt the team.  So that means you shouldn’t, either.”

Then again, there’s something to be said for having a stadium full of rabid fans who aren’t wondering whether there’s a connection between possible on-field wobbles and actual off-field worries.

Bottom line?  At this point, no one knows how any of this will affect the player or the team.  And if the four guys in Nevada were good enough to be able to predict the future with any real certainty, the casino goon squads would have run them out of town a long, long time ago.

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41 Responses to “Some gamblers unfazed by possible Roethlisberger distraction”
  1. TheDPR says: Jul 27, 2009 8:10 AM

    Maybe they are smart enough to realize that Ben’s importance to the Steelers is overrated by many. The team and their success doesn’t revolve around him.

  2. Akron Rules says: Jul 27, 2009 8:17 AM

    Could be the gamblers know Rooethlisberger is overrated and has less to do with the success of the team than the running game and defense.

  3. jobiwon says: Jul 27, 2009 8:19 AM

    If the stub penis doesn’t fit, you must acquit!

  4. Biff Henderson says: Jul 27, 2009 8:38 AM

    Life is a gamble, right Ben?
    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2668/3758605119_29bbe20a82_b.jpg

  5. Devils Advocate says: Jul 27, 2009 8:57 AM

    as the BIGBEN SEXGATE continues to roll…………………

  6. VoxVeritas says: Jul 27, 2009 9:05 AM

    They could plug a number of guys in at QB, they wouldn’t miss a beat. Big Ben’s a bus driver.

  7. onlymyopinionmatters says: Jul 27, 2009 9:13 AM

    Akron Rules says:
    July 27, 2009 8:17 AM
    Could be the gamblers know Rooethlisberger is overrated and has less to do with the success of the team than the running game and defense.
    What running game?

  8. mrmagoo says: Jul 27, 2009 9:23 AM

    VoxVeritas says:
    July 27, 2009 9:05 AM
    They could plug a number of guys in at QB, they wouldn’t miss a beat. Big Ben’s a bus driver.
    ____________________
    And that, my friends, is the kind of stunning player evaluation that will prevent your team from winning a playoff game in over 10 years.

  9. jbruder02 says: Jul 27, 2009 9:31 AM

    Exactly what running game did the Steelers have last year? Look up the stats and understand the game before making stupid posts. They were terrible at running the ball last year, but damn did that running game really carry that team last year offensively.

  10. Flyingelvislogosucksbringbackpatpatriot says: Jul 27, 2009 9:38 AM

    What distraction? Anyone with teeth and a functional brain (this pretty much excludes squeeler fans) know’s this is just a shakedown that isn’t going anywhere.

  11. tj...hoosyourmamma says: Jul 27, 2009 9:42 AM

    Yea, Ben had nothing to do with the Steelers winning the Superbowl. Nothing what soever. Willie Parker drove them down the field on the winning touchdown drive. Parker made the amazing throw to Holmes. In fact, Ben was actually guarding Fitz on the 2 touchdowns that he caught. Ben was the reason why Fitz made the #1 defense in the league look like the Lions defense in the second half of the game. You Assholes are retarded. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. And Florio is obviously trying his best to convict Ben. I’ve never seen so much bias from a so called “responsible” writer. Help me out here, is Florio a Ravens fan? WTF is up? Stop reaching, Florio. The only reason I continue to read these articles about Ben is to see if anything new has developed. Because there has been no news on it anywhere else. But I guess I should know better by now that the only thing that I’m going to read of Florio’s is just flat out biased crap.

  12. VoxVeritas says: Jul 27, 2009 9:43 AM

    Hey magoo, shouldn’t you be out in your pink Prius pimping Obamacare and Cap n’ Trade somewhere? Hint: I don’t have anything to do with running the Cowboys in any capacity whatsoever but I am flattered that you think that I do.
    P.S. You have friends?

  13. swepsgirl18 says: Jul 27, 2009 10:21 AM

    Enough already. If this is bothering Big Ben then he will work thru it, if not let it GO!!!! Just because Romo’s bombed doesn’t mean it was because Jessica was there and the same is and will be true for Big Ben. He either will have it together or not. Can we move on already? And the guys in Nevada really should put forth that effort of running thier mouths and predict something worthwhile……..

  14. realityonetwo says: Jul 27, 2009 10:24 AM

    Well, at at least they sent a reporter to Tahoe, but this story sucks.
    What sucked about it? The guy just waddled over to a casino and grabbed people standing around a sports book. One guy compared Ben’s situation to Kobe’s and said hey, Kobe won a championship so in essence it’s all good. Yeah, in 2008-09. The rape incident happened in 2003. Lakers lost to the Pistons, 4-1, in the finals that year. The reporter didn’t bother to mention that.
    Real analysis would be reporting how often the Lakers covered the spread in 03-04. According to The Gold Sheet, that record was an abysmal 31-50-1.
    In late December 03 Kobe commented on TV about the rape charge, that “you’re just … living in a nightmare and just can’t really wake up out of it.” The Lakers were 3-8 vs. the spread that month, including losing all eight in a row.
    That doesn’t sound “unfazed” at all to me.

  15. mborz says: Jul 27, 2009 10:31 AM

    It doesn’t matter whether it affects him or not, people are going to say it is.
    Ben’s always been hot/cold. And last year was a good example. During his cold stretch last year, everyone was speculating that it was due to injury.
    When a cold stretch happens again this year, do you think they’ll be any speculation about injury? Not a chance. The reason will unanimously be that it’s the civil case causing it, and it will be in the headlines.

  16. SixBurghDude says: Jul 27, 2009 10:41 AM

    DPR/Akron/Vox……Spew all the inaccurate bile you want, only makes you all look like TOOLS…FACT is Ben Roethlisberger owns the NFL record for most WINS in the 1st 5 yrs. of a QB’s carreer. That’s cool, but it’s all defense & running game, huh? Then explain this; the same dude happens to have engineered the MOST 4th qtr. comebacks in the NFL over the 5 yr. period he’s been in the league. Most of you FOOLS that post inane comments with no basis in fact, either have ZERO knowledge of the game, have not seen many Steeler games or most likely, solely base the value of a QB on his fantasy stats…I’ll take a WINNER over a compiler anyday!

  17. jack sprat says: Jul 27, 2009 10:44 AM

    i was just up in Tahoe this wekend. the Nevada side. walked up to a table, pulled out a hundred and said put it all on the Steelers to repeat. The guy says, “WHAT? Are you crazy? Haven’t you heard about the distraction?” i slumped away, rejected.

  18. lichnor says: Jul 27, 2009 10:50 AM

    “They could plug a number of guys in at QB, they wouldn’t miss a beat. Big Ben’s a bus driver.”
    ________________________
    Kordel, is that you?

  19. Frank Burns says: Jul 27, 2009 10:51 AM

    VoxVeritas says:
    July 27, 2009 9:05 AM
    They could plug a number of guys in at QB, they wouldn’t miss a beat. Big Ben’s a bus driver.
    —————————————-
    Yeah that’s why the Steelers were 6-10 the year before he got here, and have won two Super Bowls since.
    The only bus to speak of here is the short bus, which Vox clearly rides frequently based on comments like this.

  20. mrmagoo says: Jul 27, 2009 10:53 AM

    VoxVeritas says:
    July 27, 2009 9:43 AM
    Hey magoo, shouldn’t you be out in your pink Prius pimping Obamacare and Cap n’ Trade somewhere? Hint: I don’t have anything to do with running the Cowboys in any capacity whatsoever but I am flattered that you think that I do.
    P.S. You have friends?
    ___________________
    I never implied you had anything to do with running the Cowboys, I understand that even the Cowboys have standards. It had to with your lock step agreement with all things Cowboy. In football, as in politics, you are as a reliable a parrot for idiocy as could be found.
    P.S. Of course I do. Your mom thinks quite highly of me.
    P.S.S. If you really like my Prius, I’ll let you borrow it for the afternoon to make deliveries after you drop my pizza off. Maybe if I save you some gas money you can be my friend too.

  21. Frank Burns says: Jul 27, 2009 10:54 AM

    Akron Rules says:
    July 27, 2009 8:17 AM
    Could be the gamblers know Rooethlisberger is overrated and has less to do with the success of the team than the running game and defense.
    ————————————–
    WHAT running game, moron? I doubt Willie Parker broke 50 yards between the AFC Championship Game and the Super Bowl combined.
    There WAS no Steeler run game last year — you clowns living back in ’04 are pretty pathetic.
    The Steeler offense is all about Roethlisberger — who had to bail out that defense when it broke down at the end of the Super Bowl.
    Where DO these myths get started?

  22. Frank Burns says: Jul 27, 2009 11:01 AM

    By the way, here’s a little sum-up for Akron Rules boy and all you other poor misguided slobs:
    “Add that to the running game’s No. 23 ranking in the NFL, the second lowest since they joined the AFC in 1970, and it does not say much for the line.”
    Yeah, that 23rd-ranked run game really carried the Steelers huh? Whoops, looks like you’ll have to find another way to deny Ben his props.
    And tell me what other QB could have succeeded what that sieve of an o-line? Manning or Brady wouldn’t have made it through the season.
    Time to wake up to reality clowns — Roethlisberger carries this team.

  23. SixBurghDude says: Jul 27, 2009 11:14 AM

    Funny how the Steeler haters spend more time posting bullshit about Steeler issues than on their own teams, then once a well informed member of SteelerNation puts up the facts they have no reply , they just go onto the next issue.

  24. SixBurghDude says: Jul 27, 2009 11:26 AM

    More WINS & 4th qtr. comebacks in the 5 yrs. he’s been in the NFL than any other QB, INCLUDING ShadyBrady& PeytieBoy…just takes a lickin’ (more hits taken than any other QB in those 5 yrs.) & keeps on WINNING, without whinin’ & cryin’ like TommyBoy did in SBXLII every time a mitt was laid on his scrawny body…LMAO…and never threw his o-line under the bus like Manning did after the Steelers knocked his ass silly on the road to FORTY…LMMFAO!!!

  25. VoxVeritas says: Jul 27, 2009 11:30 AM

    “Ben Roethlisberger owns the NFL record for most WINS in the 1st 5 yrs. of a QB’s carreer.”
    Seriously? Chad Pennington holds the all time NFL record for completion percentage. Rich Gannon has the record for most 300 yard passing games in a season. Got any more factoids to share?

  26. Frank Burns says: Jul 27, 2009 11:31 AM

    And if I’m not mistaken, SixBurgh, Ben’s the only QB in HISTORY to win 50 games his first five years out — that would include anybody that New England or Dallas ever had. Ever.
    Some “bus driver” huh?
    Wake up and smell the coffee morons.

  27. Akron Rules says: Jul 27, 2009 11:35 AM

    I’ll stand by my original comment: the Steelers are build on running the ball and defense. It’s amazing how being an unemployed Steeler fan gives one the time to post so many comments in defense of an overrated QB.

  28. VoxVeritas says: Jul 27, 2009 11:37 AM

    “Yeah that’s why the Steelers were 6-10 the year before he got here, and have won two Super Bowls since.”
    Uh huh, it was all Frankenberger and his 64.0 passer rating in those games.

  29. SixBurghDude says: Jul 27, 2009 11:58 AM

    Akron…lmk anytime you wanna compare salaries, bro!
    Vox……I’m sure even a TOOL like yourself can figure out the difference between COMPILING numbers by dumping off screen passes & ENGINEERING your team to VICTORY in the deciding qtr. of a game…Btw, thought you might like the following, since you place so much value on passer ratings
    THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE & HERE ARE THE FACTS:
    In Tom Brady’s 4 Super Bowl runs, 3 wins – 1 loss = +2 net (all done with a proven advantage of having the defensive signals no less) his avg. QB Rating for those 12 post-season games is: 92.81 (while playing 6-home/2-road games, of the 8 non-Super Bowl games)……In Ben Roethlisberger’s 2 UNDEFEATED Super Bowl runs, 2 wins – 0 losses = + 2 net, his avg. QB Rating for those 7 post-season games is: 95.41 (while playing 2-home/3-road games of the 5 non-Super Bowl games)……If you want to compare ONLY Brady’s 3 winning Super Bowl runs his avg. QB Rating for those 9 post- season games is: 91.52……Ben has a rating over 100 in 2 of 7 games (28.6%), Tom has a rating over 100 in 4 of 12 games (33.3%)……Ben has a rating over 90 in 5 of 7 games (71.4%), Tom has a rating over 90 in 5 of 12 games (41.7%)……Ben has a rating over 80 in 6 of 7 games (85.7%), Tom has a rating over 80 in 8 of 12 games (66.7%)……Ben Roethlisberger’s avg. of the 3 (61.9)%)……Tom Brady’s avg. of the 3 (47.23%)……Most NFL QB’s would have success behind the same Cheatriots O-line that blatantly holds on nearly every play (yes, they are taught by the MASTER CHEATER), yet hardly ever gets flagged, while having MOSS + WELKER to throw to, just throw it up to one and he’ll go & get it or throw it 3-5 yards to the other & he’ll get you 10-15 in YAC……likewise for NFL QB’s if they had the luxury of HARRISON, WAYNE, CLARK & GONZALEZ in the pattern, play after play, while having JAMES and/or ADDAI in the backfield to keep the defense honest……Now how many QBs can do what Ben does in extending play after play, while taking the punishment he takes, and no longer having the luxury of a dominant running game???
    http://www.youtube.co/watch?v=TuA4YvH2hj8
    Tom Brady WILTS when faced with the type of pressure Ben Roethlisberger has had to endure thru-out the majority of his career, yet all he does is set records for WINS……best one is at the end of SBXLII, with the game on the line, fellow PSU alum Jay Alford up the gut with a facemask full of Brady’s scrawny chest…..LMMFAO!
    BTW Patsy fans; the next 4th Qtr. game winning TD drive that Brady engineers in a Super Bowl will be his FIRST!!!

  30. Frank Burns says: Jul 27, 2009 12:03 PM

    Akron Rules says:
    July 27, 2009 11:35 AM
    I’ll stand by my original comment: the Steelers are build on running the ball and defense. It’s amazing how being an unemployed Steeler fan gives one the time to post so many comments in defense of an overrated QB.
    ————————————
    You’ll stand by your own stupidity, and living in the past.
    Again, how do you explain the fact that the Steelers were ranked 23rd in rushing last year, but still won the Super Bowl?
    The Steelers USED to be about defense and running. Like when they had Neil O’Donnell or Kordell. Now they have a franchise QB, and they don’t need to be first in rushing to win championships, apparently.
    The truth is so obvious, yet so many are too dumb and blind to see it.

  31. Frank Burns says: Jul 27, 2009 12:06 PM

    VoxVeritas says:
    July 27, 2009 11:37 AM
    “Yeah that’s why the Steelers were 6-10 the year before he got here, and have won two Super Bowls since.”
    Uh huh, it was all Frankenberger and his 64.0 passer rating in those games.
    ————————————-
    What 64 rating games? The guy put up a freakin’ 98 rating his first year out.
    I know you’re all jealous you don’t have a real QB there in Dallas, but stooping to lying? That’s low even for you.
    Like I said, the “anybody could play QB for them and win” Steelers were 6-10 the year before Ben.
    Start dealing in reality, fool.

  32. mborz says: Jul 27, 2009 2:07 PM

    The “Ben sucks / Ben is great” debate will go on his entire career.
    Even though I go back and forth on how good he is, one thing he’s been consistent with is delivering when it matters. He can look completely pedestrian for 3.5 quarters and then be top-notch to close out the game. For his first couple seasons I tried to chalk it up to luck, but he’s done it over and over.
    Vox, since you’re involved in this debate, I’m sure you remember both of the Steelers / Cowboys meeting since Ben’s been in the league. If you don’t remember, I’ll post some stats to refresh you’re memory, even though I know you don’t accept any stats unless you post them or unless they are pro-Cowboy.
    In the 2004 meeting, he went 9/9 for 72 yards and a TD on the final 2 drives. Steelers scored 14 points in the 4th to come back and win.
    In the 2008 meeting, when the game was on the line, he passed for 64 yards and a TD and ran for 10 more on the TD drive that tied the game. How many times did he hand the ball off on this key drive? Zero. He would have had the chance to do even more damage, but Romo robbed him of it when he threw the pick-six to ice the game for the Steelers.
    Want to see more examples of the same? Check out the comeback section of his wikipedia entry. In particular, look at the 6th column to see his stats during these game winning drives. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Roethlisberger#Comebacks.2FGame-Winning_Drives_in_the_Fourth_Quarter.2FOvertime
    Now, the reality is that not one bit of anything I posted is going to change anyone’s mind, which is why I said the debate will go on forever. People believe what they want to believe, no matter how stupid they have to get to hold on to their beliefs. I’m sure if Vox responds again, you’ll see a fine example of it.

  33. SixBurghDude says: Jul 27, 2009 2:37 PM

    mborz……he won’t respond, once the FACTS are established to reveal the weakness of his argument, poof…he’s gone…Voxy! where you AT?

  34. The Rural Juror says: Jul 27, 2009 2:54 PM

    Florio’s right- most gamblers will be unfazed by the Roethlisberger Rape Case- now instead of betting for the Steelers they will simply bet against them.
    Was this story ripped from the pages of “Duh” Magazine?

  35. thehoodedone says: Jul 27, 2009 3:38 PM

    You missed one key stat. First 9 yrs in the league. Tom Brady – zero rape accusations. Ben Rapistburer – one and counting.

  36. BP says: Jul 27, 2009 4:15 PM

    Correct me if I’m wrong.
    BR was the 24th rated passer on ’08.
    He was the 16th rated passer on ’07. (his best year)
    He was the 21st rated passer in ’06.
    In ’04 and ’05 he attempted fewer passer per game than any starter in the NFL, less than 300 total.
    He has thrown 20 TD passes or more once in 5 years.
    He holds the lowest QB rating in Super Bowl history for the winning team.
    His 4th Quarter Passer Rating is 80.6 with 21 TDs and 22 INTs.
    He has made the Pro Bowl once, never as an All-Pro.
    He is #83 all-time for INT%.
    He is #150 all-time in sack%, getting sacked nearly once in every ten drop-backs.
    Would you say all the above are Hall of Fame credentials?
    Oh, and……
    How many of his “most 4th quarter comebacks for the first 5 years” had to do with having a top 3 defense (for 4 of those 5 years) shutting down the other team in the final quarter?

  37. BP says: Jul 27, 2009 4:21 PM

    One correction: He was the second rated passer in ’07, his best year.

  38. SixBurghDude says: Jul 27, 2009 6:15 PM

    BP……just a bit of a mistake, afterall there isn’t much difference between 1 QB’s ranking being better & 15 being better…wonder how many more mistakes there are in your post? Don’t worry I’ll let you know in a bit. Hopefully you realize that your last statement “How many of his most 4th quarter comebacks for the first 5 years” had to do with having a top 3 defense (for 4 of those 5 years) shutting down the other team in the final quarter?” exposes you as a complete TOOL…a 4th qtr. comeback is when the team that WINS the game, had entered the final qtr. not leading the game. Of course the defense would have to shut the other team down as well, afterall it’s a team sport, sport! Like it or not, you have to admit that it’s damn impressive that, in said team sport, Ben has been able to do it more often than any other QB has, since he’s been in the league…or maybe fantasy stats are more important in your little world, I’ll take WINS & TITLES!

  39. BP says: Jul 27, 2009 6:58 PM

    Comeback? Yeah, that sort of implies your team is behind. Brilliant seduction on your part. I’m glad you admit “Of course the defense would have to shut the other team down as well”, since it’s a lot easier to come back when you have a top defense to allow you to do that.
    Yeah, he was 16th in passes attempted in ’07. Glad I corrected that, after all, it’s only fair, in reality, it was his only good year out of five.
    Wins and titles are a reflection of the team. And the area that excelled for the steelers is defense, certainly not QB.
    I guess when all you have to claim for your QB is wins and titles (cough cough), you go with that. Though winning through a half dozen bad calls on the Seahawks for one title and beating teams with a combined 28-20 record for the other isn’t much to gloat about.

  40. Akron Rules says: Jul 27, 2009 7:23 PM

    You Steelers fans are amazing. I haven’t seen anyone here that has made an honest post say anything about the team sucking. Big Ben has been the beneficiary of a great defense, good running, and great receivers. None of that diminishes the accomplishments of the Urine and Black. All anyone here has said is that Ben isn’t the reason the Steelers are the great team that they are.
    I await the reply showing how Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes are hacks who were lucky enough to have Ben’s passes fall right into their hands.

  41. SixBurghDude says: Jul 28, 2009 11:43 AM

    PLEASE REFER BELOW TO POSSIBLY THE LAMEST COMMENT POSTED HERE IN A LOOOOOONG TIME:
    BP says:……”I guess when all you have to claim for your QB is wins and titles (cough cough), you go with that.”
    DAMN STRAIGHT I’LL GO WITH THAT!!!
    thehoodedone says:……”You missed one key stat. First 9 yrs in the league. Tom Brady – zero rape accusations. Ben Rapistburer – one and counting.”
    And in Ben’s first 5 yrs. in the NFL, the number of times he has been found guilty of CHEATING for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage, is ZERO…BRADY, once a CHEATER, ALWAYS a CHEATER!
    AkronFules……”great receivers might be just a bit of a stretch, NO? I mean Hines is an all-timer as a gamer & Heath Miller is IMHO the best all around TE in the game today, but before this past post-season, Santonio was soild at best & the Steelers have struggled to put a top notch 3rd wideout on the field since Ben’s been the QB. Seriously, nobody is gonna compare Ward-Holmes-Washington or Ward-Randle El-Wilson to Moss-Welker-Stallworth or Wayne-Harrison-Gonzalez-Clark, c’mon FULE!

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