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Harvin not in Minnesota, yet

As the Vikings get things rolling in Mankato with a mandatory Thursday morning meeting, Sean Jensen of the St. Paul Pioneer Press reports that first-round pick Percy Harvin was nowhere to be seen.

Harvin, the 22nd overall selection in the draft, presumably has not signed a contract yet.

That said, it should be a fairly easy proposition at this point, given that the guys drafted just before Harvin (Alex Mack of the Browns) and just after Harvin (Michael Oher of the Ravens) have agreed to terms.  If agent Joel Segal’s reputation for waiting to agree to terms until his client is bracketed is true, there’s no further reason to delay Harvin’s deal.

But it could be that Segal is trying to leapfrog Mack’s contract.

First, Harvin is a guy who was widely regarded as having top-ten talent.  So while a top-ten contract might not be justified, an incentive-heavy deal (like the one the Vikings gave 11 years ago to a certain top-five wideout who rolled into the twenties like a smooth stone on a greasy roof) might be justified.

Second, with the Vikings planning to make Harvin a big part of coach Brad Childress’ “up-or-out” season, and with quarterback Brett Favre recently putting his foot “up” Brad’s backside and “out” his mouth, Harvin and Segal have even more leverage.

As evidenced by the five-days-and-counting holdout of defensive end Aaron Maybin in Buffalo, it’s obvious that Segal isn’t afraid to tell a guy to stay home.  The question is whether he can squeeze the Vikings into spending some of the $10 million that would have gone to Favre on Harvin.

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38 Responses to “Harvin not in Minnesota, yet”
  1. Dewey Axewound says: Jul 30, 2009 1:04 PM

    What?! A non-football issue rearing it’s ugly head in Minnesota?
    NO! Say it ain’t so…!!
    In other words, you mean a Vikings player has been overly-hyped and thinks too highly of himself, despite the fact that he’s done NOTHING yet?
    STOP THE PRESSES! CALL THE MEDIA!!
    Yup, he’ll fit right in with the Hypequeens. He may very well be the perfect epitome of the franchise.

  2. madM100 says: Jul 30, 2009 1:08 PM

    I dunno how much leverage you can have when you have gotten “dehydrated” at every rookie camp thus far…just sign and get your dumbass in camp!!! this guy is starting to make me nervous picking hairs over a couple million when he will be filthy rich either way.

  3. CanadianVikingFan says: Jul 30, 2009 1:11 PM

    Get the man signed already!

  4. Fidelito says: Jul 30, 2009 1:12 PM

    Yup, it seems like Harvin has them over the money barrel. That Favre money should be burning a whole in their pocket, I don’t think they have any other choice but to overpay the guy. The Vikings need him to have a good rookie year, if not as a WR then at least as a kick returner and to run a wild cat system. I can’t imagine they’ll let him miss more than a week or so of training camp.

  5. Bitchplease says: Jul 30, 2009 1:22 PM

    “lwho rolled into the twenties like a smooth stone on a greasy roof”….
    trying to lose the youngens florio?

  6. jeremiah says: Jul 30, 2009 1:23 PM

    no big deal, i am sure that a contract has already been sent to harvin…he has just forgotten to sign it. they say one of the downsides to being a huge pot head is memory loss….that’s what i hear anyway.
    if they do get him into camp, chilly should make sure to have plenty of water around, just incase the kid gets “dehydrated” again.

  7. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 30, 2009 1:26 PM

    Of course he’s not in Minnesota. Every time he gets on a plane, whether it’s to Minnesota or the Rookie symposium, he gets a sever case of cotton mou….I mean “dehydration”. If he waits until middle of training camp, he’ll have more time for that THC to flush out of his system.

  8. RagnartheViking says: Jul 30, 2009 1:29 PM

    Hey Dewey, congrats on getting the 3rd best linebacker from USC signed today!
    Pretty funny that your boy Raji is still unsigned and yet you make fun of Harvin.
    I’d tell you to go to a Packer post, but there is rarely one on here that it’s no wonder you troll the Vikes threads.
    You know, you’d think coming off of a 6-10 season you idiots would keep your mouthes shut.
    But, I’ve lived in Wisconsin my whole life and knoww that will never happen.
    The packers franchise has never lost a game in thier entire history.
    Either the refs screwed them, they gave the game away or a car was coming or something just as silly.
    Who cares if the lost how many games by how few points? it just goes to show you that they can’t close out a game on either side of the ball.

  9. cliffcla says: Jul 30, 2009 1:30 PM

    It does not matter how much tallent he has. He got picked where he got picked because of stupid decisions he made. Banks set their loan rates based on the amount of risk they have to assume. Harvin Dropped to 22 because he proved to be a risk, not because he cant play football. The organization is taking a risk on someone who Smoked Dope 7-14 days before the Combine dispite knowing there would be a drug test. So he should get paid what #22 gets paid and be happy that someone took him that HIGH… oops, bad pun

  10. green&bold says: Jul 30, 2009 1:35 PM

    This guy is all hype. I would’ve rather had a wide receiver than an athlete who sometimes plays a receiver on tv.

  11. LBPACKFAN says: Jul 30, 2009 1:57 PM

    “I’d tell you to go to a Packer post, but there is rarely one on here that it’s no wonder you troll the Vikes threads.”
    Good one Ragnar.
    3 Super Bowls for Pack – Vikings 0
    We have more fans at a Lions game than you do an Eagles playoff game.
    SKOL VIKES! LOL

  12. jusford says: Jul 30, 2009 2:08 PM

    To RagnartheViking,
    Shouldn’t you worry more about players tweeting during meetings and which ex-Packer the Vikings will go after next rather than dis a Packer poster or article about a Packer signing?

  13. purpleguy says: Jul 30, 2009 2:15 PM

    Harvin doesn’t have much leverage for precisely the same reason he fell in the draft, not to mention his post-draft spells of “sickness”. His agent is doing him no favors personally, reputation-wise, or professionally if he’s holding out for more dough. the guy doesn’t exactly appear to be a Rhodes scholar, so catching up won’t be easy. If they’re smart, they’ll sign within the slot that’s set, shut-up and play ball. Besides, the Pack just signed another over-rated big-school first round LB he needs to prepare to make look silly.

  14. jimicos says: Jul 30, 2009 2:16 PM

    RagnartheViking says:
    July 30, 2009 1:29 PM
    You know, you’d think coming off of a 6-10 season you idiots would keep your mouthes shut.
    ——————————-
    I have two observations for this:
    1. This is a classic example of irony.
    2. Losing seasons never stopped idiots like you from spouting off, did it? I suppose we’ll find out next offseason.

  15. jimicos says: Jul 30, 2009 2:17 PM

    cliffcla says:
    July 30, 2009 1:30 PM
    It does not matter how much tallent he has. He got picked where he got picked because of stupid decisions he made. Banks set their loan rates based on the amount of risk they have to assume. Harvin Dropped to 22 because he proved to be a risk, not because he cant play football. The organization is taking a risk on someone who Smoked Dope 7-14 days before the Combine dispite knowing there would be a drug test. So he should get paid what #22 gets paid and be happy that someone took him that HIGH… oops, bad pun
    —————————
    Here’s a clear-headed, well thought out response by a Viking fan. Nice job.

  16. SpartaChris says: Jul 30, 2009 2:29 PM

    RagnartheViking says:
    July 30, 2009 1:29 PM
    Hey Dewey, congrats on getting the 3rd best linebacker from USC signed today!
    Pretty funny that your boy Raji is still unsigned and yet you make fun of Harvin.
    ==================================
    Harvin deserves to be made fun of. He’s acted like a total ass this whole off season, between testing positive right before the combine and his “dehydration” issues.
    ————————————————
    I’d tell you to go to a Packer post, but there is rarely one on here that it’s no wonder you troll the Vikes threads.
    ==================================
    You’re quite the hypocrite being as how you posted your trollish comment in the Matthews story.
    ———————————————–
    Who cares if the lost how many games by how few points? it just goes to show you that they can’t close out a game on either side of the ball.
    =================================
    Hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night. Just remember, it took a Packers defense plagued with injuries, a terrible call for a safety and a fluke missed field goal attempt for you to beat us last season, so it’s not like you kicked our ass or anything. But if thinking you kicked our teeth in gives you a warm fuzzy, go for it. We all need something to feel good about, whether real or imagined.

  17. Dewey Axewound says: Jul 30, 2009 2:33 PM

    @Ragnar
    Please, tell me some more how much the Packers suck. I love it.
    You made a dumb-ASS-umption, dumbass.
    I also love how you think having 90675475875489565496854 posts about your team during the off-season is actually a good thing.
    At least your response was succint and to the point, though.

  18. nerd says: Jul 30, 2009 2:38 PM

    Maybe he has the swine flu.

  19. virtueandvice says: Jul 30, 2009 2:53 PM

    It’s all good. He just forgot to pack his bong.

  20. RagnartheViking says: Jul 30, 2009 3:08 PM

    Dewey, a bear fan I see. At leat we don’t have a Pussy for a QB, even a washed up Urlacher thinks so.
    Sparta, Here we go with all the excuse why you lost, the Packwer franchis has never really lost a game……EVER.
    Injuries, missed FG’s and bad calls are all part of the game, and, tend to even out over the course of a season.
    But, hey. “whatever it takes” big guy.
    The next time a Packer fan says someone beat the Pack fair and square will be the 1st time.
    jimicos, I take you have a crystal ball? you know the Vikings are going to suck?
    I suppose you are 1 of those homer idiots that have the Pack penciled in for 13 wins.
    Don’t bother answering, I know that you are.
    Jusford, tweeting during meetings? What do I care about a guy’s gas problems?
    Sharper and Longwell both played at a Pro Bowl level for the Vikes, how is that bad?
    Hey at least Longwell can hit a game winning FG.
    Something the Pack couldn’t do last year….you know…close out a game?
    Green, I guess we will see, Worry about ALL DAY, before you start worrying about Harvin.

  21. CanadianVikingFan says: Jul 30, 2009 3:08 PM

    @ SpartaChris
    Do you know Harvin? Did you ever see him at the Synopsium or the OTAs or the flight he was on?
    You don’t, and you didn’t.
    So shutup.

  22. ufzo says: Jul 30, 2009 3:23 PM

    virtueandvice do you make the same comments about Golden Phelps…I would guess not….get a life

  23. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 30, 2009 3:30 PM

    @CanadianVikingFan
    What exactly is a “Synposium”?? Can I attend one of those? Nobody on here knows Harvin, but we all know the LONG history of 1st round bust WR’s that come from Florida. That’s well documented….
    I’d explain to you why the Florida thing is such a trend, but that would require you actually understanding and knowing something about football besides putting your purple jersey on on game day.

  24. effs420 says: Jul 30, 2009 3:36 PM

    3 Super Bowls for Pack – Vikings 0
    We have more fans at a Lions game than you do an Eagles playoff game.
    SKOL VIKES! LOL
    ———————————————-
    typical snobby ass packer fan living in the past…every time someone says something about your beloved pack you go to the “we won more super bowls bawwwwwwwww” defense
    get your nose outta the air and go post in packer threads and quit trolling in viking threads
    perfect example being Bob Nelson…he trolls in viking threads about the williams wall being cheaters, percy harvin’s pot issues, and jared allen’s DUI…but when johnny jolly’s trial got delayed, he said something about the prosecution wanting to train witnesses…of course cus its a packer he’s innocent…
    you douchebags love commenting on threads of teams you supposedly hate…and the closer we get to the season it gets worse…your unhealthy obsession is showing through…no other fanbase does this as rabidly and ridiculously as you cheeseheads do…you’re giving the honorable cheeseheads a bad name…just like the packer fan i saw at lambeau that physically threatened a child of no more than 14 wearing a vikings jersey
    it sorta reminded me of a street gang threatening people wearing wrong colors…but instead of the stereotypical “thugs” it was a gang of obese, drunken, delusional and classless jerkoffs
    oh right but you won more super bowls…good for you

  25. Bob Nelson says: Jul 30, 2009 3:43 PM

    If he gets “sick” is that considered a holdout?

  26. SpartaChris says: Jul 30, 2009 3:50 PM

    @Ragnarth-
    Nope, no excuses. We couldn’t get it done. However, when you consider the entire body of work, we’re one of the few teams that was better than the record indicated. It’s doesn’t excuse giving up the game in the last few minutes, but it also doesn’t mean we just rolled over as you would like to believe.
    @CanadianVikingFan-
    Not my fault you guys dafted a pussified pot head to be your future #1 receiver. He knows they drug test during the season, right? Let’s just hope he can stay away from the pot long enough to make it through.

  27. marcduke says: Jul 30, 2009 4:18 PM

    Hey Florio – when the hell did this turn into the ESPN NFL Message Boards? Don’t you have someone watching these posts?

  28. Vikes Fan in CT says: Jul 30, 2009 4:33 PM

    Remember this is just SPECULATION “it could be that Segal is trying to leap frog Mack’s contract.” Everyone jumps all over the guy like he’s already done it. This is exactly how things like what went on with Farve the past few months gets started.

  29. jimicos says: Jul 30, 2009 4:35 PM

    RagnartheViking says:
    July 30, 2009 3:08 PM
    jimicos, I take you have a crystal ball? you know the Vikings are going to suck?
    I suppose you are 1 of those homer idiots that have the Pack penciled in for 13 wins.
    Don’t bother answering, I know that you are.
    ——————————–
    I don’t know they’re going to suck. I just know they had a lot of things fall into their laps last season, and that’s not something you can count on from year to year.
    And no, I don’t have the Packers penciled in for 13 wins. In fact, depending on a lot of factors (not the least of which is their defensive transition) I could see them finishing with a wide range of records.
    But I also recognize that there were only 4 teams who scored more points than the Packers last season. Got any idea how long it’s been since a team with 6 or fewer wins scored as many as 419 points? I don’t either. But I only checked the last 10 years.
    Bottom line: if they keep scoring points like they did last season, it won’t take much of a defensive improvement to propel them to a handful more wins. And the Vikings’ failure to improve their QB position only helps.

  30. rcunningham says: Jul 30, 2009 4:41 PM

    Ever notice how it’s always Packer fans who start crap? And how they always fall back on “We won a Super Bowl and you haven’t”?
    Look, let me just set a few things straight here.
    We didn’t think Brett Favre would take us to the Super Bowl. Any Viking fan who said that was either being sarcastic or is a massive homer.
    We don’t think we are flawless. See above for the reason why any Viking fan would say that.
    We aren’t all “hype”. What exactly about is hype at this point? Anything? Newsflash: EVERY rookie drafted in the first round is all hype.
    Also, another receiver who loved the pot: Randy Moss.
    Not saying that Harvin is going to Moss (highly unlikely), but I think anyone who had a social life in high school knows that weed isn’t the worst thing in the entire world.
    SpartaChris, props for not making any excuses.

  31. Dewey Axewound says: Jul 30, 2009 4:50 PM

    @Ragnar
    And I bet you believed Wade when he said he could play football, too.
    A pudendum for a QB? Maybe. We’ll find out pretty soon.
    But wouldn’t YOU and your deflated Queen-beans love to have some of that “pus$y” right now?
    Now, please, can we have ONE more rambling, long-winded, disjointed, overly-defensive (but well-spaced!) post from you that responds to and addresses every single shadow of a suggestion of a slight against your team on the entire message board…PLEASE?
    I’m sure I’m not the only one who feels like 3 of them haven’t been enough.

  32. whatthehellisgoingonoutthere says: Jul 30, 2009 6:39 PM

    effs420 says: July 30, 2009 3:36 PM
    typical snobby ass packer fan living in the past…every time someone says something about your beloved pack you go to the “we won more super bowls bawwwwwwwww” defense
    ———————
    Wait a second, don’t you Vikings fans live in the past when you cling on to an NFC North Championship like Harvin does a bowl of weed?

  33. botchedextrapoint says: Jul 30, 2009 6:48 PM

    If this is a superbowl or bust season for the vikings I think we know where the bust part is going to come from. I don’t know how the Vikings are going to implode but it is going to be fun to watch.

  34. JimmySmith says: Jul 30, 2009 6:57 PM

    The Vikings are being cautious and who could blame them, the last time they spend a first rounder on a WR, the clown couldn’t catch a football. And he was the #7 overall pick, not the 22nd like Harvin.
    Never the less, Harvin is taking a page out of Favre’s handbook minus the 3 MVP’s and 17 years of starting. He doesn’t want to show up for trainng camp, hell, he didn’t want to show up for the OTA’s or the rookie meeting. He wants to waltz in fashionably late so he doesn’t get anymore dehydrated than he already is for drinking his own bong water.
    Ya, I could see this really working out for the Vikings. Somewhere in the NE, Bellicheat is laughing at Childress for outsmarting him so badly.

  35. MasterShake says: Jul 31, 2009 1:35 AM

    I don’t blame the stickyicky or their users. It’s lighters and matches fault.
    Just another steal in the draft that the Vikings have had. Sure, they’ll screw it up. Sure, they’ll win the NFC North. Sure, they still won’t have a SB ring.
    They’re Vick and their fans are dogs. The fans always come back for more. I wonder how much more a dog can continue to have their balls kicked in, as a fan, mine hurt.

  36. effs420 says: Jul 31, 2009 3:23 AM

    “Wait a second, don’t you Vikings fans live in the past when you cling on to an NFC North Championship like Harvin does a bowl of weed?”
    —————————————
    seeing as we won the division championship LAST SEASON yes we can still talk about it cus the vikes are STILL the division champs…this was last season, not years ago when the pack won their last super bowl…
    get it now? or should i spell it out for you in crayon?

  37. jimicos says: Jul 31, 2009 4:46 PM

    effs420 says:
    July 31, 2009 3:23 AM
    seeing as we won the division championship LAST SEASON yes we can still talk about it cus the vikes are STILL the division champs…this was last season, not years ago when the pack won their last super bowl…
    get it now? or should i spell it out for you in crayon?
    ————————–
    OK, so we can’t talk about the 4 NFCN championships the Packers have won? What about the two the Bears have won? Are they still on the table or has the statute of limitations already made those obsolete?
    You guys are funny.. “Don’t talk about history! We’re still drinking away those Super Bowl memories. But we can talk about the very very recent history… Like 2008 and any other year the Vikings won the division and/or made the playoffs.”

  38. effs420 says: Aug 1, 2009 3:34 AM

    “OK, so we can’t talk about the 4 NFCN championships the Packers have won? What about the two the Bears have won? Are they still on the table or has the statute of limitations already made those obsolete?
    You guys are funny.. “Don’t talk about history! We’re still drinking away those Super Bowl memories. But we can talk about the very very recent history… Like 2008 and any other year the Vikings won the division and/or made the playoffs.””
    ———————————————–
    And you need to work on your reading comprehension. Someone said something about clinging to a division championship, like living in the past. I responded. I will try to explain again since it’s obviously over your head.
    Since the new season hasn’t started yet, we are STILL the division champs. “STILL” meaning in the present, and not the past. Just like currently the Steelers are STILL the league champs. Until the new champs are crowned, the teams that won last year are STILL the defending champs.
    If the Packers, Bears or Lions (ha) won the division I would say the same thing. If a fan of your team won the division, you would have right to talk about it in present tense because your team is STILL the champion of the division.
    Do you get it yet? I can’t really type slower to help you understand, so I guess you’re on your own braniac.

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