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Last word on Antonio Pierce

With Giants linebacker Antonio Pierce now able to focus only on the reality of football and not on the possibility of prison, there’s one last point we’d like to address.

Why did prosecutors seek an indictment of Pierce for taking possession of the gun with which receiver Plaxico Burress blew a hole through his leg?

Our best guess is that prosecutors brought Pierce along for the ride to give the jury a vehicle for compromise.  If some of them were concerned about a law that could be regarded as imposing harsh punishment for conduct occurring without criminal intent and some of them were insisting on the strict and literal application of that law, the grand jurors were able to bargain among themselves, agreeing not to indict Pierce but to indict Burress.

Without Pierce, Burress possibly wouldn’t have been indicted at all.  With Pierce, the jurors who might not have been thrilled to apply the law as written were able to get something in return for indicting Burress.

The best evidence of a compromise likely would be reflected by the outcome of the balloting process.  If the vote to indict Burress and the vote not to indict Pierce were unanimous, chances are the outcome was the result of the kind of back-and-forth that, while leaving everyone a little upset, gets things done.

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  1. faulkn22 says: Aug 5, 2009 9:51 PM

    Maybe, but I think you’re putting too much into it. I think the opinion of public officials hoping for him to receive the maximum had more to do with him being indicted than anything. I think they’ll get him to plea down and that will be that; but maybe you are right, you were the lawyer, right?

  2. bishop23 says: Aug 5, 2009 9:52 PM

    also they brought in Pierce to snitch!

  3. empty13 says: Aug 5, 2009 9:56 PM

    i hear ya but i suspect bllomy and morgenthau are making for a lot of sound and fury… but it will be a tempest in a teapot.
    plax will get off extremely light. black celeb-jock and all.
    these laws are meant to keep the majority off the exalted bloomies.

  4. VoxVeritas says: Aug 5, 2009 10:05 PM

    Nothing less than activism on the part of the Grand Jury. For shame, New York. For shame. If you don’t like the law, change it… don’t just disregard it because your football heroes are turds.

  5. VegasBronco says: Aug 5, 2009 10:19 PM

    Antonio Pierce broke the law. He transported a loaded un-licensed concealed hand gun accross state lines.
    He should be indicted.
    The above implies plea bargining, I do not think so.

  6. Colts2145 says: Aug 5, 2009 10:30 PM

    Vox, there is something called “the spirit of the law” that you aren’t getting. The letter of the law may implicate Pierce, but the law was not intended to send someone to jail for 3 1/2 years for trying to protect a friend while in a panic. Florio has been trying to explain this for the past few days, but as long as you can pretend that all the teams better than your Cowboys (and there are a lot of them) are filled with thugs and criminals you don’t care if you reach a higher level of understanding.

  7. promin1 says: Aug 5, 2009 10:44 PM

    Vox,
    you are the only Turd around here. Coming from a Cowboys fan who just had the like of Pacman Jones on his team you should shut your friggin mouth.
    Vegas Bronco,
    What was Pierce supposed to do? Leave the gun on the floor for some fan to pick up. He wasn’t even the one who took the gun. The bouncer took it and put it in his truck. Learn the facts before you open you jizz hole.

  8. billh says: Aug 5, 2009 10:50 PM

    They did it so that Pierce was officially on record for his account of the events. They knew if his butt is on the line he would be more likely to “remember” more details than say if he was brought in as a witness several months from now.

  9. nittanylion0 says: Aug 5, 2009 11:03 PM

    gotta love these comments… i question whether many of you fill the requirements to sit on a jury to begin with.

  10. VoxVeritas says: Aug 5, 2009 11:09 PM

    Look at all of the turds rationalizing criminal behavior. Possession of a concealed weapon in two states, no big deal. Transporting it across state lines in violation of federal law in order to cover up a crime, no big deal. He was only trying to help his dying buddy when he didn’t immediately call emergency services and went hospital shopping, no biggie. Obstruction of justice, no big deal. Misprision of a felony, no big deal. Conspiracy, no big deal. He’s a Giants player and as such is a good-hearted guy, but don’t ask the emaciated pit bull that he let roam the neighborhood because it was just a dog and Pacman Pacman Pacman. Screw the law, we can’t win without him!
    You make me want to vomit.
    “What was Pierce supposed to do? Leave the gun on the floor for some fan to pick up.”
    He was supposed to let the security personnel that WERE STANDING RIGHT THERE take care of it.
    “He wasn’t even the one who took the gun.”
    Yes he is. Everybody knows that he took the gun to New Jersey. Stop lying to cover that turd’s tracks, these facts are not in question.

  11. Abe Froeman says: Aug 5, 2009 11:43 PM

    Vox, you have no idea about the judicial role of juries.
    Go look up the legal concept called “jury nullification.”
    You’ll learn something.

  12. Guardian says: Aug 5, 2009 11:49 PM

    You people just don’t get it….. Just because a law is written and passed it does not make it legal. If Plax spends a day in jail he should sue his lawyer for malpractice. Are you poeple that ignorant to forget the second amendment to the Constitution of the United States?

  13. ShockAndAwe09NYG! says: Aug 6, 2009 12:02 AM

    Pierce is acted exactly like the DA wanted, they wanted Pierce to come in and testify and didn’t want to call him in, so they scared him and that made Pierce say “F’ this I’m going to make sure they no my story!” and he did that and it worked out…Go Giants!

  14. east96st says: Aug 6, 2009 1:22 AM

    VoxVeritas says: “Nothing less than activism on the part of the Grand Jury. For shame, New York. For shame. If you don’t like the law, change it… don’t just disregard it because your football heroes are turds.”
    Once again, you project your inadequacies onto Manhattan. First, I don’t know any Giants fan that views Pierce as a “hero”. The consensus is he’s a serviceable LB that NY took from the Skins. Second, Manhattan is not filled with fanboys such as yourself. Yeah, the suburbs and Jersey have a bunch, but they usually flock to Jets games. Lots of people in Manhattan couldn’t tell you what the Giants record was last year. Lots of us do love football, but we don’t prostrate ourselves before players like you do. I can guarantee your hero Tony Romo can walk around Manhattan all day and not get hassled unless he ran into a tourist or was back with Jessica and the paparazzi found them. That’s not ragging on Romo, that’s just acknowledging that there are lots of people more famous than athletes walking in Manhattan. Given how prohibitively expensive it is to live in this city, why would a jock sniffer waste his/her money to live here? People live in Manhattan for the arts, the museums, the culture, the restaurants – not to hang a NY Giants helmet Fathead on their wall. I know people here that have never watched a NFL game in their lives. We know you live in the cultural and educational wasteland known as Kansas. If that’s what works for you, enjoy it. The reality is I would bet that several members of that jury didn’t even know who Pierce was, several more had just heard of him but didn’t know what he did, and most of them just wanted to get their grand jury duty over with because jury duty in Manhattan blows. Since we’ll never know what was said in that room, I can’t tell you exactly why they let him walk. My guess was the majority of the 20 plus people in that room just wanted to get the hell out of there and go back to lives and pray they don’t get called for jury duty again for another decade. And get on the uptown express before it becomes so packed that you can’t even breathe. The subway in August is awful. Almost makes you wish you were in Kansas. Almost.

  15. promichael says: Aug 6, 2009 6:59 AM

    Intent plays a huge part with Pierce because he had no prior knowledge of the gun and weather it was registered or if Plaxico was licenced to carry the gun. Pierce as indicated by his attorney was focused on getting his friend/teammate help from a gun shot wound period. Information on prior knowledge and intent by Pierce would have come from the grand jury testimony of Plaxico Burress. Plaxico Burress is the victim of his own stupidity and he will get what he deserves; a year in jail. The judge will have discretion in the sentencing to administer the correct sentence based on the evidence. I believe that Plaxico and his attorney will enter a guilty plea without a deal from the prosecutor and pray for the judge to sentence Plaxico to only one year.

  16. smiley says: Aug 6, 2009 7:16 AM

    Ahhhh…the city I love. Good write-up. I’d say more Giant fans in Jersey….unless you’re in South Jersey….they’re Filthy fans. Vox – you’re in Kansas? That explains a lot. Hail!

  17. JustMike says: Aug 6, 2009 7:21 AM

    Friends help friends move, but real friends help move illegal guns and transport them after the commision of a crime, then lie about it to the police. If only Ookie and Donte had friends like this…

  18. PSimms1186 says: Aug 6, 2009 8:25 AM

    Vox and Vegas Bronco cannot be involved in an informed discussion because they are unaware of how the legal system works. Prosecutors use the letter of the law to put away criminals – not to destroy the lives of good citizens. The politics of this is the only reason Burress is in serious trouble. About 85% of first time offenders indicted last year, for the same offense, went free on probabtion last year. Pierce made several mistakes in this situation but none that should put him behind bars.

  19. AmhaTek says: Aug 6, 2009 9:25 AM

    Florio, was it not you a week or so ago arguing that Peirce should be indicted??

  20. Guardian says: Aug 6, 2009 9:29 AM

    You people are pathetic.

  21. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 9:50 AM

    Oh yes, pooh pooh the thought of bias in NYC.
    Something so puerile could never come from the social elite that inhabit Metropolis. They’re so above such things. Such activity is so below their station in life. How disadvantaged the rest of the country must be to not live in a cultural mecca such as Manhattan! It’s so expensive to live there, what would a peasant that doesn’t live there know?
    You know I soubt that OJ Simpson was the biggest celebrity in LA… certainly P. Diddy was not the biggest celebrity in Manhattan when he got off.
    “Given how prohibitively expensive it is to live in this city, why would a jock sniffer waste his/her money to live here?”
    When you say “live here”, you’re implying that you live there. I rest my case.
    “Intent plays a huge part with Pierce because he had no prior knowledge of the gun and weather it was registered or if Plaxico was licenced to carry the gun.”
    Not registered to Pierce in any case. It can be reasonably assumed that Pierce knew this. He could not legally possess the gun in either state, therefore transporting the gun between states is against federal law.
    But it doesn’t matter now. Celebrity justice has spoken.
    “Vox – you’re in Kansas?”
    No. That’s just what Manhattan jock sniffers say to try to discredit me. Yes, east96st apparently believes that nobody from Kansas deserves an opinion. I have no idea what that has to do with me, I’m from Texas. But I’m not going to argue the point with somebody from Costa Rica.

  22. empty13 says: Aug 6, 2009 10:09 AM

    jury nullification has long been part of the american legal tradition.
    jurors are allowed to and are supposed to judge not just the case, and the facts, but also the law.
    yes, the law.
    and they sure used to in a lot of cases. frankly, we have way too many laws. we are all now armchair criminals. now how the @#$% do you think that came about?
    nowadays due to the nature of the legal profession and courts, lawyers and especially judges fail to inform jurors that they have the right, nay, the DUTY, to also judge the law. they dont want you to know your rights. now why the @#$% do you think that is?
    wake the @#$% up and stop reflexively railing at “the man” or reflexively demanding “rule of law”.
    lets dispense with all this talk about how the jury screwed up this pierce case. they werent inclined to issue any indictment etc of pierce over an unconstitutional law… or over the fact he didnt dot every i or cross every t in the cleaning up of the battlefield. i keep hearing that ignorance of the law is no excuse. folks, how many laws do you not know all the details of? or do you just rely on the lawyerly priesthood to do all that thinking for you?
    the jury did okay on this one. besides, the gun got handed in (more unconstitutionality) and pierce didnt hurt anyone with it.

  23. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 10:22 AM

    “Prosecutors use the letter of the law to put away criminals – not to destroy the lives of good citizens.”
    Oh, so now Pierce and Burress are “good citizens”. Sure.

  24. PSimms1186 says: Aug 6, 2009 10:38 AM

    Talking with Vox is like trying to explain Physics to a 3 year old. There is no logical basis for him/her to understand what is being discussed. No surprise Vox is from Texas either. LOL!

  25. east96st says: Aug 6, 2009 10:58 AM

    VoxVeritas says: “How disadvantaged the rest of the country must be to not live in a cultural mecca such as Manhattan!”
    Apparently not so disadvantaged that they take millions upon millions of our tax dollars that we never see back in federal spending. Typical that those who benefit from Manhattan’s money turn their nose up at us.
    “When you say “live here”, you’re implying that you live there. I rest my case.’
    What case, you moron? I live on East 96th St right by the 6 train. Not the best address in Manhattan, but not the worst. Works for me. Born in Doctor’s Hospital, now Beth Israel, over on York.
    “Yes, east96st apparently believes that nobody from Kansas deserves an opinion.”
    Nope. Just hard to take their opinions seriously when they are fighting over whether the earth is 6,000 years old.
    “I’m from Texas”
    Really? Where? Because the Philly boys have been saying you’re in Kansas for about five months and this is the first time you’ve said that’s wrong. It’s not like you to stay silent when you feel the Philly boys are wrong. Strange how it took you five months to dispute that point.
    “But I’m not going to argue the point with somebody from Costa Rica.”
    You’re such a douche you would argue with anyone anywhere. It’s what you do and who you are. As for Costa Rica, never been there. I’ve heard it’s lovely. I’ll probably retire there since you Kansas assholes are probably going to start another Civil War because you think dinosaurs were around just a few centuries ago in the Garden of Eden and you have no use for nonsense like scientific proof.

  26. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 11:22 AM

    “Apparently not so disadvantaged that they take millions upon millions of our tax dollars that we never see back in federal spending. Typical that those who benefit from Manhattan’s money turn their nose up at us.”
    Sorry, but Texas is a tax donor state.
    “What case, you moron?”
    Your claim that there are no jock sniffing fanbois in Manhattan, dummy.
    “Nope. Just hard to take their opinions seriously when they are fighting over whether the earth is 6,000 years old. ”
    WTF does that have to do with this discussion? Seek Ritalin.
    “Really? Where?”
    South Texas.
    “Because the Philly boys have been saying you’re in Kansas for about five months and this is the first time you’ve said that’s wrong.”
    Why should I feel the need to discredit everything someone says? I extended you a courtesy by telling you where I’m from. It’s really none of your business and has no bearing on the discussion.
    “It’s not like you to stay silent when you feel the Philly boys are wrong.”
    Sometimes you’ve just got to let idiots that lie just be idiots that lie. Maybe I should have taken that strategy with you.
    But what if I did live in Kansas? What would that mean to you? Should Kansans be ashamed to be from Kansas?
    “Strange how it took you five months to dispute that point.”
    Eagirls fans rarely have a point. Same goes for you, apparently. I read where somebody called you gay. You didn’t deny it. Should I surmise that you like to take it in the ass? You would, if it had been said about someone else. I would not, because I’m more intelligent than you and possess much more common sense than you. I mean, it’s obvious. Don’t believe everything you read.
    None of this, of course, changes the fact that the New York Giants are a turd organization that tries to cover up crimes and enables turds like Burress and Pierce and many, many other Giants players that have run afoul of the law in recent years. I’m not sure how you can stomach rooting for such an organization.
    This is where you try to be smart in your patently ignorant way and attempt to distract from my points. Romo! Kansas! Jessica Simpson! 44-6!

  27. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 11:27 AM

    Oh, and by the way…
    “You’re such a douche you would argue with anyone anywhere. It’s what you do and who you are. As for Costa Rica, never been there.”
    I wasn’t talking to you, dumbass. There’s no doubt in my mind that you’re just another jock-sniffing fanboi from Manhattan. The kind of guy that would let a criminal off scot-free because you’re afraid that the Giants would suck without him.
    “I’ll probably retire there”
    Nobody cares.

  28. AmhaTek says: Aug 6, 2009 12:20 PM

    Take this fight over to twitter, thats seems to be what everyone else is doing these days.

  29. Krow says: Aug 6, 2009 12:30 PM

    http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=254344

  30. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 1:50 PM

    http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

  31. PSimms1186 says: Aug 6, 2009 2:49 PM

    Pierce was not indicted by a jury of his peers.
    Is Vox a communist, gay, or just from KansasTexasCostaRica?

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