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Very big talk from Vince Young

We suppose it’s fitting that, with one of the top-ten quarterback busts from 2006 in the news as he struggles to avoid sliding to third on the depth chart in Arizona, the other top-ten quarterback bust from 2006 is setting a bar for himself that, given his career to date, is unrealistic to the point of complete and total delusion.

Young, you see, has a prediction for his career.  A big one.

I will be the next black
quarterback to win a Super Bowl
,” Young tells Esquire magazine (via Will Brinson FanHouse). 

“And I will be in the Hall of Fame.”

To borrow a line from Borat Sagdiev, “Wow-wow-we-wow.”

Hey, maybe Vince Young will suddenly undergo a career transformation in 2009 or not long thereafter.  But to make that kind of guarantee seems to confirm that he’s simply not smart enough to be a successful quarterback in the NFL.

In our view, if Young were smart enough to be a successful quarterback in the NFL, Young also would be smart enough to know that the last thing he should be doing at this juncture of his pro career is making boasts of Lombardi Trophies and bronze busts.

Meanwhile, we wonder what more accomplished black quarterbacks like Donovan McNabb think of this assertion from Young.  In a roundabout way, Young is saying that none of them will win a Super Bowl before Young gets his act together and carries an entire team to the sport’s ultimate team accomplishment.

Though one thing we’ve learned from watching the NFL is that nothing can be ruled out, we like McNabb’s chances a lot more than Young’s.

And even if Young ends up on track for a Super Bowl win or a bust in Canton, we suggest that he set his sights a tad lower for now.

Becoming a starting quarterback again would be a good place to start.

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82 Responses to “Very big talk from Vince Young”
  1. jeremiah says: Aug 5, 2009 3:44 PM

    MIKE
    it’s “wow-wow-we-wow”
    and
    VINCE
    the hell you will

  2. JaredAllen69 says: Aug 5, 2009 3:45 PM

    To borrow a line from Borat Sagdiev, “Wow-we-wow-wow.”
    Borat stole that from Jackie Gleason. Remember the Honeymooners?

  3. Yak says: Aug 5, 2009 3:46 PM

    Canton = No
    Superbowl = Could be.
    He never said her was gonna start and win, he just said he was gonna win a Super Bowl. If he is the 3rd string slappy QB and the team wins the big one, he is technically correct. He wins the Super Bowl.
    By saying that, I don’t count kickers and punters as Super Bowl winners unless your name is Vinitari. The rest are glorified waterboys….

  4. empty13 says: Aug 5, 2009 3:46 PM

    Awwwwwwwwww, he’s a starter. dont ya know, it is just the man holdin him down.
    and all those mean people in the (home) stands booing!
    uncle rico should take a page out of cedben’s book and call up his mommy!

  5. Xpensive Wino says: Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM

    I respect a man who’s just smart enough to know and be objective about how dumb is. Apparently, Vince Young does not possess that quality.

  6. longlivecrookedsteve says: Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM

    viva la crooked steve

  7. Fan_Of_ Four says: Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM

    Maybe if he’s playing Madden 2010.

  8. deathbysexy says: Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM

    UT VY > TN VY

  9. orangecrushd13 says: Aug 5, 2009 3:47 PM

    well, he could win a Super Bowl as a back up QB. Technically speaking, the Titans could win this season.
    Also, I think he meant that he is visiting the HOF this weekend. Thus, he will be in the building. He’s so dumb, he probably thinks by being in the building, he is a member of the HOF.

  10. ZombieRevolution says: Aug 5, 2009 3:48 PM

    Its a little harsh to call someone a bust when their career is not even close to being over. Both Vince and Matt have time to turn things around. Given Collins age, and if Young matures he might have a chance to back up his bosts.
    Warner on the other hand is still playing at a high level, so Matt might be on the bench for awhile.

  11. alewatcher says: Aug 5, 2009 3:48 PM

    That boys cheese has done slid off his cracker.

  12. Citizen Strange says: Aug 5, 2009 3:49 PM

    Dennis Dixon of the Steelers has a better chance.

  13. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 5, 2009 3:50 PM

    McNabb?
    McNabb is a master choke artist, whose canvas is the playoffs.
    Inevitably, he plays his worst when his best is called for.
    But oh no!–poor Vikings fans!
    I guess this means Tavarius Sucksitforus Jacksonius WON’T be leading the Hypequeens to the promised land any time soon afterall…!!
    Seriously, as black QBs go, Kordell Stewart–with Rush Limbaugh as his positional coach–has a better chance at winning the S.B. than these two perennial failures.

  14. gnop05 says: Aug 5, 2009 3:51 PM

    I’d like to hear a Caucasian QB state that, “(He) will be the next white quarterback to win the Super Bowl.” – Is it just me, or are “blacks” allowed to say racist statements way too often?
    LOL @ Young. He is going to pout and cry if he doesn’t win the SB. You know, similar to the little boy who wants that G.I. Joe and mommy won’t buy it for him; resulting in a hissy-fit in the middle of Wal-Mart. One difference here.. That little boy doesn’t QUIT being a little boy.

  15. KingDonkoPunchr says: Aug 5, 2009 3:53 PM

    There is a zero ( 0 ) % chance that he becomes a hall of fame player… WOW! What a fool

  16. Fan_Of_ Four says: Aug 5, 2009 3:53 PM

    I meant to say that Florio has a better chance of starring in Paris Hilton’s next sex tape.

  17. Gibbon Randolph says: Aug 5, 2009 3:54 PM

    That’s just sad.

  18. Hurricane says: Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM

    It COULD happen.
    If the Titans win the Super Bowl before another team who has a black quarterback, Vince Young has delivered. He didn’t say he would be the next black STARTING quarterback only he would be the next black QB.
    But a future HOF’er, I think not

  19. rcunningham says: Aug 5, 2009 3:55 PM

    Randall Cunningham should have been the second :(

  20. CT Pats Fan says: Aug 5, 2009 3:56 PM

    Lowest wonderlic score ever, or something like that, right?

  21. TFBuckFutter says: Aug 5, 2009 3:59 PM

    “I will be the next black quarterback to win a Super Bowl,”
    Rush Limbaugh agrees…..
    There will never be another Super Bowl winning black QB.

  22. 6RINGS! says: Aug 5, 2009 4:01 PM

    This coming from a guy who scored a 2 on the Wonderlic test!

  23. 6RINGS! says: Aug 5, 2009 4:03 PM

    Why does it hav to be about race Vince? He’ll be handing out water on the Texas sidelines in no time.

  24. rcunningham says: Aug 5, 2009 4:07 PM

    “Dewey Axewound says: August 5, 2009 3:50 PM
    McNabb?
    McNabb is a master choke artist, whose canvas is the playoffs.
    Inevitably, he plays his worst when his best is called for.
    But oh no!–poor Vikings fans!
    I guess this means Tavarius Sucksitforus Jacksonius WON’T be leading the Hypequeens to the promised land any time soon afterall…!!
    Seriously, as black QBs go, Kordell Stewart–with Rush Limbaugh as his positional coach–has a better chance at winning the S.B. than these two perennial failures.”
    Even in a topic that has NOTHING to do with the Vikings, you find a way to bash them?
    Dude, what is your deal?

  25. VoxVeritas says: Aug 5, 2009 4:07 PM

    He’s talking to you, McNabb.

  26. madM100 says: Aug 5, 2009 4:10 PM

    dewey did you actually just tie a t-jack insult into this story?? you sad sad packer fan when is raji gonna sign b4 the season? i hope so steve hutchinson needs someone to pancake on AD’s touchdown scampers

  27. max says: Aug 5, 2009 4:15 PM

    His athleticism alone makes him an intriguing option, however his work ethic/mental makeup is terrible. That being said, i think he’d start over T. Jackson, J. Russell, and whoever gets the gig in San Fran.
    Young will get another shot.
    At least he can hang his hat on being the best college football player to play in the last 30 years. Not too shabby.

  28. empty13 says: Aug 5, 2009 4:17 PM

    6-44*

  29. DcNinerFan says: Aug 5, 2009 4:18 PM

    Vince Young being the starting QB of a Super Bowl winning team is about as likely as me being the next black QB to win the big game (and I’m not black).
    And yeah, why does it have to be the next BLACK QB. Why not be, and I’m just spit balling here, the next human QB to win the SB. They do get away with racism, don’t they? Hey, I’m the next white person to comment! Woo! *shakes head*

  30. Beer Cheese Soup says: Aug 5, 2009 4:20 PM

    Wow. Just wow. How does a guy with no shred of common sense whatsoever warrant a college education, even in a backwater inbred state like Texas? The NCAA should seriously be ashamed, and someone needs to take Vince aside before he further embarrasses the Titans organization.

  31. gnop05 says: Aug 5, 2009 4:23 PM

    Yo Vox. 44-6

  32. Kotite says: Aug 5, 2009 4:26 PM

    Um… didn’t you almost quit the game altogether like three months ago?

  33. empty13 says: Aug 5, 2009 4:35 PM

    texas isnt the home of inbreeding. that is up north where dumbasses fight in wars that dont involve them.

  34. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 5, 2009 4:36 PM

    @rcunningham, my friend…
    Last I checked, unless Tavaris Jackson is somehow related to Michael, and is now doing his same skin-whitening program, Tav is a BLACK QB.
    Topic of this story = Vince claiming to be next black QB to win SB
    Hence, a discussion of the possible candidates who could beat him to it (or not), i.e. McNabb, Tav, is entirely relevant.
    I launch my share of off-topic, unprovoked, mean-spirited attacks on the Queens.
    But this one wasn’t off-topic, by any means.
    Come on–didn’t you ever get to do connect-the-dots as a kid?
    Thanks for playing, though.

  35. topcide says: Aug 5, 2009 4:39 PM

    VY put up a 6 on his wonderlic, that suggests he can’t master the fine arts of subtraction, or reading.

  36. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 4:41 PM

    There is nothing racist about what Vince Young said. He is showing “racial pride” the same type that others like to claim when waving that confederate flag. He made a statement based on history, there has been only 1 black qb to ever win the super bowl. He wants to be the second. What is wrong with that?
    If he was white and said that, people would praise him for his “leadership” and his “forward thinking approach” or his “bravado” but since he’s not, and he happens to be at a crossroads of his career, everyone wants to knock him. If everyone had that type of confidence in themselves, the world would be a better place. You can’t knock the guy for being confident. Anyone that watched his 60 minutes interview knows that the guy is extremely confident. What the Florio’s of the world don’t like is when these guys don’t let their naysaying get to them or deter them. I’m all for Vince being the second black qb to win a Super Bowl. I hope he can make that a reality.
    LAstly, why twist the guy’s comments out of context by trying to make them a slight against current black qbs? He said what he said, probably not even thinking about McNabb, Jason Campbell, David Garrard, Byron LEftwich, JaMarcus Russell or any other African-American starter in the NFL. So, again, I don’t see the big problem.

  37. Alfie says: Aug 5, 2009 5:01 PM

    C’mon Florio, you forgot the put his quotes in context.
    “I will be the next black quarterback to win a Super Bowl [as soon as my copy of Madden gets here].
    and
    “I will be in the Hall of Fame [game next Monday night].”

  38. defensiveplaymaker says: Aug 5, 2009 5:01 PM

    Wow, I can’t imagine the sh*t storm that would happen if Drew Brees or any other white qb said he would be the next white qb to win the super bowl! The NAACP would be calling for his head! There would be rioting in the streets and people saying how racist that was. Why in America is there a double standard in race relations? Why is it okay for blacks to bring up race in any fashion they want and that’s okay. But if whites bring it up, they’re racist. That amazes me.

  39. jimicos says: Aug 5, 2009 5:02 PM

    Dewey Axewound says:
    August 5, 2009 3:50 PM
    But oh no!–poor Vikings fans!
    I guess this means Tavarius Sucksitforus Jacksonius WON’T be leading the Hypequeens to the promised land any time soon afterall…!!
    ————————-
    Is this really necessary in this thread? I’m all for ripping the Vikings a new one whenever it’s called for, but… You can rip on Vince Young without bringing Tarvaris into it.
    Speaking of which.. Vince is much more likely to be remembered as one of the NFL’s biggest busts than as a Super Bowl winning (starting) QB or Hall of Famer.
    I know he started two years in this league, but given Kerry Collins’ advanced age and journeyman QB status, combined with Collins’ success stepping into Vince’s shoes last season… You could make the argument that Vince was a pretty damn big bust. So far. Or maybe “most overhyped” player is a better definition.

  40. VoxVeritas says: Aug 5, 2009 5:03 PM

    empty13 says:
    Usually just a bunch of ignorant redneck racist crap.

  41. Tiger Woods says: Aug 5, 2009 5:08 PM

    [i]gnop05 says:
    August 5, 2009 3:51 PM
    I’d like to hear a Caucasian QB state that, “(He) will be the next white quarterback to win the Super Bowl.” – Is it just me, or are “blacks” allowed to say racist statements way too often?[/i]
    No it’s not just you. Blacks are allowed to make racist and prejudiced, discriminatory statements all the time. It’s part of our culture, which stems from the ACLU and NAACP, and lawsuits. Just look at the initials NAACP. What does it stand for.
    Reverse all these things and try it from the white perspective… Where’s the Miss White America Pageant? There’s still one for Blacks only.
    Where’s White History Month? There’s still one for blacks.
    Where’s the United Negro College Fund? It’s everywhere. Where’s the United Caucasion College Fund?
    Where’s WET (White Entertainment Television)?
    Statements made all the time by black athletes like Donovan McNabb, Gary Sheffield, Rasheed Wallace, etc. are allowed to pass huh?
    But you fools of America bought into it with your vote of another racist who saddled along side the anti-white Rev Jeremiah Wright, and Sharpton, and Jackson, etc……

  42. StillMadAtSlobber says: Aug 5, 2009 5:10 PM

    OK, so that makes Charlie Batch a 2-time SB winning Black QB?

  43. rcunningham says: Aug 5, 2009 5:24 PM

    “Dewey Axewound says: August 5, 2009 4:36 PM
    @rcunningham, my friend…
    Last I checked, unless Tavaris Jackson is somehow related to Michael, and is now doing his same skin-whitening program, Tav is a BLACK QB.
    Topic of this story = Vince claiming to be next black QB to win SB
    Hence, a discussion of the possible candidates who could beat him to it (or not), i.e. McNabb, Tav, is entirely relevant.
    I launch my share of off-topic, unprovoked, mean-spirited attacks on the Queens.
    But this one wasn’t off-topic, by any means.
    Come on–didn’t you ever get to do connect-the-dots as a kid?
    Thanks for playing, though.”
    Of course I can make the connection but that is a stretch, just to get in one of your cheap potshots?
    I’m starting to think you have a bit of an obsession.

  44. dr.3000 says: Aug 5, 2009 5:25 PM

    FLORIO IS BUSH LEAGUE.

  45. mskrs says: Aug 5, 2009 5:27 PM

    “He never said her was gonna start and win, he just said he was gonna win a Super Bowl. If he is the 3rd string slappy QB and the team wins the big one, he is technically correct. He wins the Super Bowl. ”
    ——-
    Even if Vince meant it in this sense, he’s still dead wrong about being “the next one”. Ask Rohan Davey and Charlie Batch.

  46. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 5:31 PM

    “Wow, I can’t imagine the sh*t storm that would happen if Drew Brees or any other white qb said he would be the next white qb to win the super bowl!”
    There wouldn’t be a storm because they have no need to quantify their position. The league has probably 90% white qbs so why would Drew Brees or any other white qb have to make that a point of fact- its obvious. Not to mention, in the 189 years of professional football, much of that was spent with blacks not even being able to play the position. I guess that people don’t see the significance of what Doug Williams did, but black people do. Again, nothing at all wrong with what Young said. Try being told “you ain’t ***t all your life or the entire time you’ve been in this country and you will understand the significance then.

  47. mskrs says: Aug 5, 2009 5:34 PM

    For those of you who just don’t “get” how a black person referring to his/her race as Vince has is NOT the equivalent of a white person doing the same – then you just don’t have any depth of understanding of history, and how the present connects to the past. And my trying to explain it won’t enlighten you guys – because, for one, I think you some of you guy just don’t *want* to get it. And the rest of you may be just as dumb/ignorant as you deride Vince for being.

  48. Philtration says: Aug 5, 2009 5:41 PM

    Gee Uncle Al…
    If there has been only one black QB to ever win a Super Bowl then what exactly is Vince Young so proud of?
    Just another idiot with a chip on his shoulder… or is that a pork rind?

  49. DarthPirate says: Aug 5, 2009 5:43 PM

    Honestly? Good for him, I wish him luck. I’m glad he’s showing confidence in himself.
    I don’t think he’s good enough, but I’ve been wrong before.

  50. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 5:46 PM

    Typo…89 years, not 189 years…but you get my point.
    Unc

  51. I_Hate_Yams says: Aug 5, 2009 5:50 PM

    That’s a lot to expect from a guy who scored a 6 on the Wonderlic exam.

  52. Rex Grossman says: Aug 5, 2009 5:54 PM

    Rex Grossman will be the next black quarterback to win a Super Bowl.

  53. jimicos says: Aug 5, 2009 6:03 PM

    This crap about racist statements is being blown way out of proportion. There’s plenty of racism out there. This isn’t it.

  54. Jackal138 says: Aug 5, 2009 6:08 PM

    “But you fools of America bought into it with your vote of another racist who saddled along side the anti-white Rev Jeremiah Wright, and Sharpton, and Jackson, etc……”
    Your fake indignation doesn’t do a very good job at hiding your racism.

  55. Jackal138 says: Aug 5, 2009 6:11 PM

    rcunningham,
    Be happy. At least your obsesses loser troll can spell and is willing to argue about what logic he used to post. crookedsteve posts on every single thread about the Eagles and Andy Reid.

  56. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 5, 2009 6:12 PM

    Uncle Al says:
    August 5, 2009 5:31 PM
    “Wow, I can’t imagine the sh*t storm that would happen if Drew Brees or any other white qb said he would be the next white qb to win the super bowl!”
    There wouldn’t be a storm because they have no need to quantify their position. The league has probably 90% white qbs so why would Drew Brees or any other white qb have to make that a point of fact- its obvious. Not to mention, in the 189 years of professional football, much of that was spent with blacks not even being able to play the position. I guess that people don’t see the significance of what Doug Williams did, but black people do. Again, nothing at all wrong with what Young said. Try being told “you ain’t ***t all your life or the entire time you’ve been in this country and you will understand the significance then.
    ___________________________________
    You know what I think we need?
    A Rooney-sponsored rule that says teams HAVE to start at least one black QB, until at least X percentage of all SB’s have been won by black QBs.
    But keep in mind, then we need a rule that says teams have to start AT LEAST one white RB, until….
    Oh, and what about the downtrodden Latinos, who–outside of Roberto Garza & Tony Gonzalez & Anthony Gonzalez & ??–are ALSO so woefully under-represented in the NFL?
    What about THEM?
    Pacific Islanders?
    The Chinese?
    The Irish?
    The Polish?
    The Jews?
    One-legged homosexual gypsy-midgets with Syrian parents that work in toll booths?
    ALL these people have had a pretty raw deal at one point opr another over the years, haven’t they?

  57. LTC Pain says: Aug 5, 2009 6:13 PM

    VY is so out of focus and full of himself as his arrogant mouth shows. VY can talk the talk but doesn’t have the mental acuity or tools to walk the walk on the field.

  58. Biff Henderson says: Aug 5, 2009 6:21 PM

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2289/2789141195_17ec857b12.jpg

  59. empty13 says: Aug 5, 2009 6:57 PM

    vox, since rednecks built the nation and fought for the freedoms you love to abuse, you can now step down as a citizen.
    if u agree with the guy who bashes texas, THAT MEANS YOU ARENT FROM TEXAS AND ARE JUST ANOTHER CAFETERIA COWBOY FAN. on behalf of my original home stare of texas, STFU YANKEE.
    u might learn something from dewey’s sarcasm on this post, however.
    and we all know you are still hurtin over that 6-44* laydown

  60. SteelDawg says: Aug 5, 2009 7:04 PM

    The only reason I signed up for this was to comment on the idiots who calls Vince’s comments racist. While it is a little far fetched for him to think he is going to win a Super Bowl and go to the HOF it is okay to set your goals high.
    It means a lot for a black quarterback to say that he is going to win the Super Bowl because it would be a great accomplishment. If you hadn’t noticed there’s only one that won as a starter.
    For all you real racists out there, there is WET (White Entertainment Television) it’s called every other channel except BET. There is White History Month. It’s called all the months of the year. You are so short sided and narrow minded that you probably think that a white invented the stop light or performed the first open heart surgery. Maybe you think Christopher Columbus discovered America. You crooks stole, pillaged and plundered to get where you are but when something comes along to help those less fortunate i.e. United Negro College Fund then you say, “Where’s ours?” when you actually have more advantages.
    By the way it was a white man that had on his t-shirt, Nigga please. It’s called the White House. Well guess what President Barack Hussein Obama won the election that “your” forefathers put forth so deal with it.

  61. HRVA DBAG says: Aug 5, 2009 7:05 PM

    Interesting points guys.
    Here is the deal though, although Doug Williams (a great QB black or not!) was the first black starting QB he was not the first black QB to be on a SB roster. That would be Joe Gilliam (Steelers x2). The list of black QB’s to win SB rings is interesting. They are Tony Bans (Ravens), Shawn King (Bucs), Rohan Davey (Pats), Charlie Batch (Steelers x2), Anthony Wright (Giants), Byron Leftwich (Steelers), and Dennis Dixon (Steelers).
    I don’t get Vince Young. Playing QB is nothing about race anymore. This is America in the 21st Century. As a veteran I wonder if VY would be able to get a decent enough score on the ASVAB test to be able to enlist in the military.
    I think he will end up going down as a huge bust and I don’t care whether he is black or not. He was passed over in the draft for a reason.
    VY please just shut up, ride the bench, play out the contract, and go away to be the subject of draft bust documentaries.

  62. VonClausewitz says: Aug 5, 2009 7:07 PM

    I seem to recall another mobile QB named Young who had a mediocre start to his career. He just went on to replace the greatest QB ever, win a superbowl and go to the HOF. To paraphrase Lloyd Christmas, I’m just saying there’s a chance.

  63. tj.52 says: Aug 5, 2009 7:26 PM

    Dewey Axewound says:
    ” You know what I think we need? ……
    One-legged homosexual gypsy-midgets with Syrian parents that work in toll booths? ”
    —————————————————–
    @Dewey Axewound:
    What about the One-legged homosexual gypsy-midgets with JEWISH parents that work in a toll booth?
    What are you, some kind of anti-semite?

  64. CJCrazyLegs28 says: Aug 5, 2009 7:28 PM

    Is he supposed to say he’s fine where he is now, as a backup and being considered a bust? Definitely sounds like a better option than coming in, proving yourself, winning a Super Bowl, and later making it to the hall of fame.

  65. GiorgioMustica says: Aug 5, 2009 7:38 PM

    lol, nice reference to Borat….I applaud you for once Florio

  66. Alpheratz says: Aug 5, 2009 7:42 PM

    Their cloak of racism allows them to be victims.
    The democrats insult them further by enabling.
    Let a man stand on his own merit, if he has the courage.

  67. Kidekk says: Aug 5, 2009 7:42 PM

    @Tigerwoods, there was a WET. It’s now known as Spike TV, but before that it was TNN. And, no, his comments aren’t racist. If they were racist, you would also be calling any newsworthy event involving a first for some race, racist. Aside from that, the way you put everything else is idiotic, while some things are true you make them seem nonsensical with blanket generalizations and actually portray yourself to be somewhat of a racist (even if you call yourself Tiger). Sit back and look at things and see why they are the way they are. You can’t fully understand something until you live it, and as much as I hate to say it, it’s not easy being black. But I wouldn’t change anything about my life.

  68. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 8:04 PM

    “You know what I think we need?
    A Rooney-sponsored rule that says teams HAVE to start at least one black QB, until at least X percentage of all SB’s have been won by black QBs.
    But keep in mind, then we need a rule that says teams have to start AT LEAST one white RB, until….
    Oh, and what about the downtrodden Latinos, who–outside of Roberto Garza & Tony Gonzalez & Anthony Gonzalez & ??–are ALSO so woefully under-represented in the NFL?
    What about THEM?
    Pacific Islanders?
    The Chinese?
    The Irish?
    The Polish?
    The Jews?
    One-legged homosexual gypsy-midgets with Syrian parents that work in toll booths?
    ALL these people have had a pretty raw deal at one point opr another over the years, haven’t they?””
    You know, I could get really idiotic on you here, but let me just school you instead. Sure, they all had a raw deal but guess what, they came here by choice, not by force.
    This is not even about the lack of starting black qbs in the league. You are trying to shift the argument. This is about Vince Young saying that he wants to be or will be the next Black QB to win the SB. And about how his statements are being taken out of context and perceived to be racist. That is not a racist statement. The NFL has done an excellent job of addressing the disparity between black and white qbs as well as in the area of coaching.
    In the end, short-sighted, narrowminded folks will try to pull the race card and say that this is a double standard. But those who know history and know the history of black people in this country will see this as nothing more than a young black man taking pride in his race and being confident in his abilities. End of story.

  69. kotapug says: Aug 5, 2009 8:04 PM

    If people want to be equal and not be discriminated against why put the color of your skin with your statement. Im pretty sure no one on this site has been in slavery so at some point you will have to move on. I also believe the first slaves in this country where white . It is amazing still in 2009 people have to make everything about race . Just shut up ,do your job and let your actions speak for themselves.And if people think that someone that is white can make half of the comments that you hear other minorities saying and the reactions are the same than you are as blind as this country was when there was slavery.

  70. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 8:05 PM

    “Where’s WET (White Entertainment Television)?”
    I thought some of these other comments were dumb, do you realize that 99% of the entertainment industry is controlled by whites? you need some gum gum, dum dum.

  71. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 8:08 PM

    “If there has been only one black QB to ever win a Super Bowl then what exactly is Vince Young so proud of?”
    The fact that he was even able to do it, despite all the odds going against him, facing the white all-american blond, blue eyes John Elway, everyone telling him that he couldn’t do it, coming from a small HBCU called Grambling university, the fact that the he was a pioneer in the NFL, the fact that he was one of those guys that just played, the fact that some of his teammates didn’t even want him on the team, his linemen didn’t want him under center…you need me to go further Bubba? Wow, I was looking for a stimulating conversation, not drivel. Oh yeah, Vince doesn’t eat pork.

  72. Uncle Al says: Aug 5, 2009 8:12 PM

    “I don’t get Vince Young. Playing QB is nothing about race anymore. This is America in the 21st Century.”
    Since when does the time period matter when you have guys that are teaching their kids the exact same thing that we are trying to get away from. Because of the history of America, it will always be about race- that is just something we have to stop hiding from. As long as there are Rush Limbaughs and Sean Hannitys and Bill Oreillys and Glen Becks, it will always be about race. Sure, someone is gonna mention Jesse and Al Sharpton and Jeremiah Wright but we wouldn’t need them if the playing field was level from the break…unfortunately, it wasn’t and it still isn’t.

  73. mrmagoo says: Aug 5, 2009 8:18 PM

    VoxVeritas says:
    August 5, 2009 5:03 PM
    empty13 says:
    Usually just a bunch of ignorant redneck racist crap.
    _______________________
    I’m sure empty13 can take care of themselves, but…
    Oh, the irony.
    Don’t you have someone else’s grave to dance on?

  74. DaGMen07 says: Aug 5, 2009 9:18 PM

    @VonClausewitz
    Love the Lloyd Christmas reference. Anytime you can mention the greatest movie ever made, please feel free to continue to do so.

  75. zod says: Aug 5, 2009 9:23 PM

    I all know about Doug Williams is that when he got his shot at the brass ring, he had a career record setting day and it didn’t have a thing to do with his color.
    This is how I view athletes.

  76. DaGMen07 says: Aug 5, 2009 9:32 PM

    @uncle al
    “The fact that he was even able to do it, despite all the odds going against him, facing the white all-american blond, blue eyes John Elway”
    What the f#ck does this statement have to do with Vince Young. I bet you would claim not to be a racist too.
    @SteelDawg
    Good thing the White House wasn’t painted yellow. Could you imagine the outrage that people would have against the Chinese. Idiot.

  77. VoxVeritas says: Aug 5, 2009 10:17 PM

    “vox, since rednecks built the nation and fought for the freedoms you love to abuse, you can now step down as a citizen.”
    Whatever you say, Grand Wizard.
    “Don’t you have someone else’s grave to dance on?”
    Let the record show that the lowbrow Pissburgh dipshit is backing up the ignorant racist redneck. You should get a yellow sheet to go with his white one, Pissboy.

  78. LuvThatDirtyWatah says: Aug 5, 2009 11:23 PM

    Time to check Vince’s meds again …

  79. tv says: Aug 6, 2009 8:18 AM

    I’m sure the dude has enough jack to buy a ticket to either, or both.
    Have fun, the exhibits are great!

  80. anomaly76 says: Aug 6, 2009 10:37 AM

    Apparently Al scored the same as VY on his wonderlic and now feels obligated to defend him.

  81. ihatedipwads says: Aug 6, 2009 7:04 PM

    # gnop05 says: August 5, 2009 3:51 PM
    I’d like to hear a Caucasian QB state that, “(He) will be the next white quarterback to win the Super Bowl.” – Is it just me, or are “blacks” allowed to say racist statements way too often?
    U know is no use to try to get you to understand how stupid that statement was or sorry just your lace of knowledge in general but I forgot yes everyone has had a fair straight forward chance lol …
    Anywhoo, just as equally if not more is this statement form VY during this interview… First off he shouldn’t even be doing interviews.. Hell Why not interview Mark Lienart or Brady Quinn even ..Ok at least out of those Brady may just have a decent career. Or maybe Brady is doing what VY should be doing and that instead of taking interviews how about just watching tape over and over and over and over and over and over again …
    This is why Vince Young , Michael Vick, Akili Smith and throw in Mark Lienart and any other first round QB sucks is because they do not appreciate the game enough to put in the mental work required beyond the physical … Guess what you in the NFL everyone else is stronger and faster the same if not more as you are mr. high pick QB. As an African American it really pisses me off when they young talent from college goes to waste in the NFL. The young brash put on attitude of toughness by the young African American athlete today sucks ass and yes being a hip hop music fan I can say it does come from their total misunderstanding of the hip hop culture. These cats havent been throught nothing but they want that fake ass street image and they are fake themselves. Truth be told real street cat doing dirt dont talk period ….For my white readers and seriously I can only correlate this to the tough ass fake “wigger syndrome” ..
    To say Mcnabb is a choke artist please U cant choke when u have noooo receivers. VY just sucks in general and runs his mouth so much that he has turned off his teammates and same thing for Mike Vick. Anyone who has watched falcon football during his time playing will tell you that there were too many dropped passes. I say that to say hmmmmmm there was a reason for that to me that was more locker room based than talent of the recievers there. To bad for him either way he cant QB his way out of a paper bag for the same reasons ..No film study which leads to a non mental understanding of the position and no accountability taking for not learning the mental aspect or responsibility as well for that matter. Young blacks QB’s and really all young QB should just shut the hell up and be humble and fully learn your craft .. The parties and females arent going anywhere so learn your trade first dipwads gees .. OUT …..

  82. Drat says: Aug 11, 2009 8:26 AM

    For all the racist yacking and history re-writing on this post, the one that cracks me up most is “empty” who says “texas isnt the home of inbreeding. that is up north where dumbasses fight in wars that dont involve them.”
    There wouldn’t even be an American state of Texas if we hadn’t come in and beat Mexico with a stick. You guys tried but couldn’t do it on your own, “dumbass.” Got your asses kicked. Probably the only war Mexico ever won. Without us, you’d still just be known as the province east of Chihuahua.

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