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Crabtree contract continues to paralyze multiple picks

As the 49ers and receiver Michael Crabtree, the tenth overall pick in the 2009 draft, continue to basically stare at each other and say nothing, other teams and players are suffering the consequences.

Picks eight, nine, eleven, and twelve continue to be unsigned, due in large part to the absence of a deal between Crabtree and the 49ers.

And some big-name agents are among the waiting:  Tom Condon and Ben Dogra at CAA, Dave Dunn and friends and Athletes First, and Joe Segal. 

Condon and Dogra have Broncos running back Knowshon Moreno (No. 12).  Dunn has Packers defensive lineman B.J. Raji (No. 9).  And Segal has Bills defensive end Aaron Maybin (No. 11).  

Given the possibility that Crabtree’s agent, Eugene Parker, eventually will get the Niners to cave, it arguably makes sense to hold out the players drafted in the vicinity of Crabtree.  As we’ve recently mentioned in connection with Jaguars tackle Eugene Monroe, the big-money windfall deals currently stretch to the seventh pick.  If Crabtree and Parker can drag the large dollars all the way to No. 10, the guys picked just in front of him will benefit — and the guys taken just after him might, too.

Meanwhile, there’s no indication that Crabtree and the 49ers are any closer to a deal.  There’s a theory making the rounds that Parker might have promised Crabtree that he’d be a top-five pick, and that Parker’s last-ditch effort to make good on that guarantee might be to get Crabtree paid as if he had been picked in that range.

Regardless of what happens next (and, frankly, given Crabtree’s boast that he can run a 4.4 on crutches, we’re not ruling out a decision to re-enter the draft in 2010), it’s a huge mess.  And while it could all end at any moment, there’s no reason to think that that moment is coming any time soon. 

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45 Responses to “Crabtree contract continues to paralyze multiple picks”
  1. Legend says: Aug 6, 2009 8:41 AM

    The Raiders were such FOOOLS for passing on this guy. uh… yeah, right.

  2. Big Stretch says: Aug 6, 2009 8:50 AM

    Florio or anyone who knows—-
    what would happen if the 49ers just never caved and didn’t sign crabtree this year?
    the rookie salaries are out of control and this diva wants money like he was the 1st pick, i say let him sweat out a year with no contract it’s not like the 49ers are a contender anyway, crabtree isn’t gonna put them in the playoffs so F him

  3. killwithme says: Aug 6, 2009 8:50 AM

    seems like Parker would be holding up the unsigned picks from 3 to 12 then.

  4. empty13 says: Aug 6, 2009 8:52 AM

    time for old bug eyes to give him the san francisco treat.

  5. Smarter Than Florio says: Aug 6, 2009 8:54 AM

    Totally bogus reporting. So pick 10 is holding up 4 other picks?
    By your logic, couldn’t you say that 9 is holding up 8 and 10?
    Or that 11 is holding up 10 and 12?
    And if the big money is stretching to 7 maybe pick 8 should be the next one signed?
    Or if 13 is signed then maybe 12 should go next?
    Come on Florio. Even you can come up with better stuff than this.

  6. gameday says: Aug 6, 2009 8:55 AM

    missing all of OTA’s and training camp, Crabtree is not going to be of any use this season .
    Don’t cave 49ers!
    Just wondering, is Crabtree going to be the most hated player in the league if his plan doesnt work?
    Is Parker going to be the most hated agent in the league if it does work? and will teams refuse to pick a player he represents in the future?

  7. alewatcher says: Aug 6, 2009 8:57 AM

    Bust in waiting.

  8. Smarter Than Florio says: Aug 6, 2009 8:58 AM

    I am waiting for one of my customers to sign a $500,000 contract. I think they would sign if Crabtree would just sign first.

  9. QuietFool says: Aug 6, 2009 8:59 AM

    I think this stuff exposes how paranoid and selfish agents can be (as if it wasn’t already). True, agents should be wary about getting their pick signed, and then having blowup the slotting with his contract. But at some point they need to realize that keeping their clients out of camp does them a disservice when they fall behind, and that IF the players around Crabtree sign he will have absolutely no leverage and be forced to sign.
    With respect to reentering the draft, while I’m sure that’s crossed Parker’s mind, there is NO WAY he will be drafted higher than No. 10 next year after this fiasco. Any advice given to Crabtree is a flat-out lie.
    Frankly, as a 49ers fan, my concerns are (1) that he is a bust (don’t think he is), and (2) that he’s a great player, but leaves after his rookie contract for FA to sign with his beloved Cowboys.

  10. bobinpuertorico says: Aug 6, 2009 8:59 AM

    The other teams, such as the Bills with Maybin, need to let it be known that their maximum offer will continue to decline as time passes, because the value of these players is diminished as they continue to miss training camp. The teams should also establish a cut-off date, perhaps another week or two, after which they will refuse to sign these players for the 2009 season.
    It is totally unacceptable for the teams to allow themselves to be held hostage as Eugene Parker continues to have Crabtree hold out. The Bills saw how poorly Jason Peters played last year, after Parker had him hold out for the entire preseason (despite having three years remaining on his contract). The players who remain unsigned will play far below their potential if they miss a major part of training camp, so the teams should not waste their money on them.

  11. parsisaf says: Aug 6, 2009 9:02 AM

    You never did answer the question why you are pinning this all on Crabtree rather than the other guys near him that have not signed.

  12. Kidekk says: Aug 6, 2009 9:05 AM

    So what you’re saying is that these other guys could also sign but they are holding out to see if they could get more money, and that’s Crabtree’s fault? You really hate this guy.

  13. Alan R says: Aug 6, 2009 9:06 AM

    It would be completely detrimental to Crabtree to sit out and try to get redrafted. After not playing football for a year, there is no way he would be drafted in the top 5 next year. He would probably be lucky to still get drafted in the first round. He needs to sign, get on the field and prove that he won’t be another diva bust WR.

  14. Big Vinny says: Aug 6, 2009 9:19 AM

    Monroe is crippling himself in Jacksonville. The Jaguars are getting tons of players back from injury on the O-line, and Eben Britton is in camp learning the system.
    The Jags may be unwilling to pay tons of money to a guy they can live without. Of course that begs the question why they drafted an OL in the first place…

  15. dldavidlong says: Aug 6, 2009 9:21 AM

    i hope they keep holding out. the longer they hold out, the more people will scream for a rookie scale. if i was san fran i would lower his offer if he doesn’t sign soon. rookie WR rarely contribute much the first year any way.

  16. NightTrainNeckTie says: Aug 6, 2009 9:29 AM

    Wow, this whole rookie contract thing is backwards.

  17. Benny27 says: Aug 6, 2009 9:29 AM

    So what about the other picks that aren’t signed? Are they Crabtree’s fault to that Curry or Jackson are still sitting at home even though the picks around them have signed…..shocked that there are no stories about those guys….Man that Crabtree is such a diva and screwing everyone up…

  18. BuffaloStampede says: Aug 6, 2009 9:34 AM

    I think Trent Dilfer said it best when he said the money he made by holding out for a bigger rookie deal wasn’t worth it. The time he lost by being out of training camp was vital and negatively impacted his career, especially early on in Tampa Bay when he struggled.
    I hope Maybin gets in soon because he’s already a guy that the coaching staff is looking to sprinkle in instead of start right away. Those sprinkles are only going to end up being fewer and fewer every day he misses!

  19. RaiderMight says: Aug 6, 2009 9:44 AM

    What a nightmare for all the other reams. 9 (or 8 by now) players are still unsigned because of this. 9 holdouts.
    I think that like Crabtree, their agents are giving them bad advice. I don’t remember the last time that there were so many hold outs in one draft class. They are missing out on a chance to have an impact on their team this year by not being around. All just to squeeze an extra million or two for their agent’s sake.
    At some point the players have to just step up and say “let just get it done. get me into camp!”
    The first preseason game is this coming sunday. We are 1 week away from all the other preseason games. Not a lot of time left for those guys to get in camp and get some of the very valuable reps in. I have a feeling that as soon as those rookies sign, they will get into camp, get rushed to catch up and get hurt. Just like what happened to Chris Wells. Then the team will continue to hurt.
    Time for a rookie pay scale!

  20. RaiderMight says: Aug 6, 2009 9:54 AM

    Look at the Bo Jackson situation for that example. He was drafted as the first pick of 1986 by the Bucs. The bucs wouldn’t pay him his dues, and/or i think they wouldn’t let him play baseball as well. He decided not to sign that year and played baseball for the Kansas City Royals instead. Since the bucs couldn’t get him signed that year, they lost his rights.
    Next year, he was added back into the draft where the Raiders took him in the 7th round, 183 overall. He signed because the Raiders would let him play part time early in the season so that he could finish off the MLB season.
    If the niners let Crabtree not sign, he will go back into the draft next year and miss out on his millions for this year. The niners would miss out on their 10th overall pick, but Crabtree would missout on a big pay out and risk being taken in a later round just because of his hold out.
    ———
    Big Stretch says:
    August 6, 2009 8:50 AM
    Florio or anyone who knows—-
    what would happen if the 49ers just never caved and didn’t sign crabtree this year?
    the rookie salaries are out of control and this diva wants money like he was the 1st pick, i say let him sweat out a year with no contract it’s not like the 49ers are a contender anyway, crabtree isn’t gonna put them in the playoffs so F him

  21. InnocentCriminal says: Aug 6, 2009 10:00 AM

    Could someone please explain to me why these guys are drafted in April and the teams wait until days (or hours) before training camp opens to get them signed?
    It seems to me that the 3 months in between should be ample time to hammer out a deal.
    Of course all of this would be moot if they would just get a rookie pay scale in place.

  22. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 10:07 AM

    “what would happen if the 49ers just never caved and didn’t sign crabtree this year?”
    He’d go into next year’s draft pool.

  23. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 10:10 AM

    “So what you’re saying is that these other guys could also sign but they are holding out to see if they could get more money, and that’s Crabtree’s fault? You really hate this guy.”
    It’s logical. If Crabtree can get a better contract than he’d normally get at his slot, they might be able to, too.

  24. RaiderMight says: Aug 6, 2009 10:12 AM

    I think the teams would love to do that, but the players hold the cards on that… They can refuse to negotiate until camp nears. That way they can hold the team to the coals and use it as leverage to get more money.
    In April, May, June and July, they don’t have much leverage to use other than “you picked me here”.
    ———–
    InnocentCriminal says:
    August 6, 2009 10:00 AM
    Could someone please explain to me why these guys are drafted in April and the teams wait until days (or hours) before training camp opens to get them signed?
    It seems to me that the 3 months in between should be ample time to hammer out a deal.
    Of course all of this would be moot if they would just get a rookie pay scale in place.

  25. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 10:17 AM

    “i hope they keep holding out. the longer they hold out, the more people will scream for a rookie scale. if i was san fran i would lower his offer if he doesn’t sign soon. rookie WR rarely contribute much the first year any way.”
    But how bad would the 49ers look for dicking up yet another first round draft pick? They’ve really only made one good first round pick since Bryant Young, and that would be Patrick Willis. I’d add Andre Carter but he wasn’t worth anything close to a #7 overall.
    Kentwan Ballmer
    Patrick Willis
    Joe Staley
    Vernon Davis
    Manny Lawson
    Alex Smith
    Rashaun Woods
    Kwame Harris
    Mike Rumph
    Andre Carter
    Julian Peterson
    Ahmed Plummer
    Reggie McGrew
    RW McQuarters
    Jim Druckenmiller
    JJ Stokes

  26. Hap says: Aug 6, 2009 10:17 AM

    This is exactly why the new agreement between management and labor should include a provision for rookie salaries. Teams are scared to get an early 1st round pick because they don’t really know if their pick will pan out so they could be out HUGE money for a bust. Labor needs to understand that if the rookies make less, that will be more for the rest of the team, which should be proven performers. Everybody makes out beter except the unproven rookies, and if they’re good/great, then they will eventually get their cake.

  27. txtumbleweed says: Aug 6, 2009 10:27 AM

    It is the Raiders that messed things up by paying to much for the #7 pick. You are so biased against Crabtree it is ridiculous. Sign # 8 and 9 and then if he doesn’t sign you might have a gripe!

  28. bring back the rating system says: Aug 6, 2009 10:37 AM

    “Is Parker going to be the most hated agent in the league if it does work?”
    No, because there’s this guy named Drew Rosenhaus who already takes the cake for that one

  29. 4evrnyt says: Aug 6, 2009 10:57 AM

    I still need it explained on how it’s the #10 pick that is holding everyone up. Why isn’t it the #8 or the #9 pick. What is so special about #10 that everyone is waiting on??
    You offer this rediculous speculation but offer absolutely no reasons or evidence to make it sound like you did anyting other then pull this idea out of your ass.
    Very unprofessional.

  30. billsfanaddict says: Aug 6, 2009 10:59 AM

    Actual conversation posted by AP news between Parker-Crabtree
    “duh, i’m ona start ritaway & catch fo’ 12/1200 b/c i’m the m*********g greatest”
    “you sure are buddy, why dont you go drive that hummer/escalade off the lot to a bar so we can celebrate while i finish this paperwork for you. in fact, just sign it 1st, i’ll fill in the blanks so you dont have to deal w/alla that techinical hater b.s. talk. That ok my man? whos #1 lil buddy? come on, who’s the greatest?”
    “ma, i be da m********g greatest. i’m #1, i’m the king. once dis teem git ME dey goin to da supabol. i guarantee i be in da HoF in Tin Yeas bra”
    “Thats why you gots to get to PAID! Cincy, Oak, Jax, GB are all haters who didnt wanna pay you like The Man you are!”
    “yea thats right. yo, does i gots lots a loot so’s i kin get a gold/diamond chain dat say ‘Crabtree #1′ on it?”
    “Of Course you do! Thats why i’m fighting to get you paid like #1. Crabtree, my man, that money is in the bank, you dont got to worry bout nuttin thats what i’m here for. Why’d you hire me?”
    “B/C i’m a man, and i’m the best!”
    “exactly!”

  31. poz51 says: Aug 6, 2009 11:02 AM

    You cant blame the agents for this, these player are putting there livelyhood in the hands of these agents. These agents don’t care about the player, all they care about is getting the biggest contract they can for their players so they can 1) take a bigger % and get paid and 2) so they can brag to the other agents about how big a contract they got the player. These players need to take control of their lives and tell the agent to get a deal done. They are haggling over hunderds of thousands of dollars when you are looking at millions they are getting is really minor. These players are missing valuable time which is the difference between starting and riding the pine. I can’t believe these guys are so focused on what the player around them is getting, if this is so important, the last guy drafted should be the last player to sign. 2 shouldnt sign until 1 does, 3 until 2 does and so on.

  32. rolltide says: Aug 6, 2009 11:12 AM

    Remember everybody, contract holdouts mean you’re a horrible person and a sure bust.
    It certainly doesn’t mean the team knows they have the most leverage and the player doesn’t have the option to sign with another team, and that they know players will start to panic once camp starts (this is the answer to the poster who asked why teams take three months to start the process)

  33. jeremyb91 says: Aug 6, 2009 11:34 AM

    Raidermight- Actually Tampa Bay screwed Bo Jackson after drafting him they flew him down to Tampa for a physical. This affected his amateur baseball status with Auburn and he wasn’t allowed to play baseball after this.
    Because of this he decided to sit out the year, play baseball with KC’s organization after get drafted by them, and get drafted by the Raiders the following year.

  34. Kenneth says: Aug 6, 2009 11:38 AM

    Thank God the Jaguars did not draft this clown. This situation I hope will be the catalyst that finally gets a rookie salary cap put in place, This guy has B.U.S.T written all over him. He has a bum foot and is just trying to get as much cash as possible because he knows he will have a very short unproductive NFL career. The name Crabtree will soon become as hated a name in sports as OJ, Rose, And Bonds because he will be blamed for a rookie salary cap being instituted.

  35. shake&bake says: Aug 6, 2009 11:47 AM

    billsfanaddict
    That was freakin hilarious.
    I love that this is going on with crappanties and the mighty pink and butterscotch 49ers! And whats funny is when Jamarcus was holding out it was beacause the raiders are so dumb they cant do anything right. Jamarcus is an idiot. Now that it’s happening to them. ” Oh this doesent mean anything it’s just the way the game is played we arent worried crppanties is the greatest we are going to the Superbowl once we fet him signed” Ha ha ha ha ! Suck it losers !!!!! Thats why he dropped to number 10. Now do you get it?

  36. Kidekk says: Aug 6, 2009 11:48 AM

    VoxVeritas says:
    August 6, 2009 10:10 AM
    “So what you’re saying is that these other guys could also sign but they are holding out to see if they could get more money, and that’s Crabtree’s fault? You really hate this guy.”
    It’s logical. If Crabtree can get a better contract than he’d normally get at his slot, they might be able to, too.
    ————————
    So it’s logical to blame one grown man for the actions of other grown men? These guys could sign if they want to, but they choose to see what the most is that they can get. Yeah, I understand it’s predicated on market value, but Florio is crticizing only Crabtree’s actions when other players are doing the same damn thing. Doesn’t matter if Crabtree did it first, they’re showing they have the same character as him in regards to doing a deal; they want the most money they can get but Crabtree is being made the scapegoat because he is supposedly a diva. That and Florio is a businessman and he knows he has to keep the “Crabtree is a diva” moniker alive because it generates reaction and fans love piling on players they hear “rumors” about.

  37. Kidekk says: Aug 6, 2009 11:50 AM

    billsfanaddict says:
    August 6, 2009 10:59 AM
    Actual conversation posted by AP news between Parker-Crabtree
    “duh, i’m ona start ritaway & catch fo’ 12/1200 b/c i’m the m*********g greatest”
    “you sure are buddy, why dont you go drive that hummer/escalade off the lot to a bar so we can celebrate while i finish this paperwork for you. in fact, just sign it 1st, i’ll fill in the blanks so you dont have to deal w/alla that techinical hater b.s. talk. That ok my man? whos #1 lil buddy? come on, who’s the greatest?”
    “ma, i be da m********g greatest. i’m #1, i’m the king. once dis teem git ME dey goin to da supabol. i guarantee i be in da HoF in Tin Yeas bra”
    “Thats why you gots to get to PAID! Cincy, Oak, Jax, GB are all haters who didnt wanna pay you like The Man you are!”
    “yea thats right. yo, does i gots lots a loot so’s i kin get a gold/diamond chain dat say ‘Crabtree #1′ on it?”
    “Of Course you do! Thats why i’m fighting to get you paid like #1. Crabtree, my man, that money is in the bank, you dont got to worry bout nuttin thats what i’m here for. Why’d you hire me?”
    “B/C i’m a man, and i’m the best!”
    “exactly!”
    ——————-
    I see empty13 has spawn.

  38. descendency says: Aug 6, 2009 12:04 PM

    Don’t know if it was answered, but if Crabtree goes unsigned (VERY unlikely), he would have to re-enter the draft next year. It would be very bad for his stock though.

  39. texasPHINSfan says: Aug 6, 2009 12:06 PM

    i hope SF doesn’t cave.
    let Crabtree sit out a year and wait for the next draft, where he will go even lower now that teams now how difficult he’ll be to sign, how much of a primadonna he is, and how he handled all this.
    who loses in this scenario? Crabtree, and hopefully Parker when other players see how Parker conducts business.
    idiots

  40. VoxVeritas says: Aug 6, 2009 12:20 PM

    “So it’s logical to blame one grown man for the actions of other grown men?”
    I wouldn’t call it “blame”. These are important business decisions. It’s smart to try to get what you can while you can and if you can gain any amount of leverage by somebody else doing or not doing something, it makes sense to do it.

  41. veistran says: Aug 6, 2009 12:22 PM

    @Dumber Than Florio: Crabtree’s agent Parker is trying to pull the big money down all the way to #10 of course the agents around him are going to wait and see if he does it because it suddenly raises the ceiling or floor in their own contract negotiating. Especially since its a bunch of CAA and Athletes First clients if I recall correctly. Not like they have anything to lose by waiting. Its all on the players to clear that logjam if they want to, tell their agent that a deal needs to get done or they are gone.

  42. samlv4 says: Aug 6, 2009 1:14 PM

    Really at this point in preseason it’s moot if and when they sign. They have all lost training camp in terms of learning and training & conditioning, (they are way behind the curve) The Agents and the rookies are equally responsible……. But the rookies will pay the price of not being in camp. What ever happened for playing for the love of the game and a few less bucks?

  43. madM100 says: Aug 6, 2009 1:16 PM

    mike rumph. now he was bad. Not the worst though, anyone remember ramous mcdonald? that guy couldnt cover a bed with a blanket

  44. SpartaChris says: Aug 6, 2009 2:16 PM

    Kidekk says:
    August 6, 2009 11:48 AM
    So it’s logical to blame one grown man for the actions of other grown men? These guys could sign if they want to, but they choose to see what the most is that they can get. Yeah, I understand it’s predicated on market value, but Florio is crticizing only Crabtree’s actions when other players are doing the same damn thing. Doesn’t matter if Crabtree did it first, they’re showing they have the same character as him in regards to doing a deal; they want the most money they can get but Crabtree is being made the scapegoat because he is supposedly a diva.
    ==================================
    Well, he is a diva. Sorry, but when a grown man describes fashion as being one of his hobbies, he’s got diva status written all over him.
    As far as the other guys waiting for him to sign, it’s simple logic really. Those who got picked ahead of Crabtree should get contracts valued at more than Crabtree since they got picked higher. If their agents let them sign for less money than Crabtree winds up getting, it could (and probably would) hurt their ability to sign future players.
    Not to mention it screws teams over for next years draft when a guy this year picked at #10 winds up with an over valued contract.
    And it’s precisely why the league needs to implement a rookie cap.

  45. cisco says: Aug 6, 2009 4:07 PM

    I hope Crabtree sits out and this whole thing blows up on Parker his agent. He is such a scumbag.

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