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Patriots acquire Derrick Burgess

After an offseason worth of rumors indicating a deal might happen, the Patriots acquired Derrick Burgess from the Raiders Thursday.  (In a sign of the times, they announced it via their Twitter feed.)

New England will give up “undisclosed draft considerations” in the move.  Oakland was believed to be looking for two mid-round picks in the deal, but it’s unclear if they got them.

Burgess is expected to convert to outside linebacker in New England, where the team is in need of a pass rusher.

The Patriots defense is rather young at other positions, but their linebacker crew is very experienced with Adalius Thomas, Tedy Bruschi, and Burgess to go with Jerod Mayo. Expect linebacker Pierre Woods to come off the bench now.

Burgess will be able to commiserate about the bad old times with fellow former Raiders Randy Moss and Andrew Walter. 

UPDATE: Michael Lombardi reports that the Patriots gave up their third and fifth round picks in 2011 in the deal.  Seems fair for both sides.  Adam Schefter points out the Eagles were offering a third-round pick and a player.

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  1. Provance1 says: Aug 6, 2009 5:56 PM

    YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!

  2. Akshun says: Aug 6, 2009 5:59 PM

    damn i was hoping the eagles would pick him up

  3. rusH1023 says: Aug 6, 2009 5:59 PM

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Cue the haters. They hate what they fear and they should. Go Pats!

  4. WINGED WARRIOR says: Aug 6, 2009 6:01 PM

    AL set too high a price for him , when the Eagles inquired about him (#2)

  5. pats suck, blow and cheat says: Aug 6, 2009 6:02 PM

    Is Burgess good with a camera?

  6. Fart Face Killa says: Aug 6, 2009 6:04 PM

    Too bad they still don’t have the tandem of Joey Porter and Jason Taylor this year…. Old? yes! Effective? Incredibly!

  7. 909RaiderLifer says: Aug 6, 2009 6:06 PM

    Andrew has someone else to reminisce with about “the good ‘ol days” with…..
    IF Burgess still has the fire, he will help the Cheatriots.

  8. DcNinerFan says: Aug 6, 2009 6:07 PM

    Hey, maybe he can actually make an impact, of which there is no way he could do that on the Faiders.

  9. sactown81 says: Aug 6, 2009 6:10 PM

    heh
    They can have this LOP.
    All he does is sit on the sideline and gripe.
    His sack totals are meager. He had 2 good years 5 years ago, and has fallen off the charts since due to lack of ability and lack of effort.
    Of course following suit with Randy Moss, and watching him jog his routes at 1/2 speed down the sideline collecting 12 mil, Burgess will probably get 15 sacks this year. I doubt it though, he is old small and lifeless.
    I was hoping we would get a 7th round pick for him before we had to cut him, so any draft pick will be icing on the cake.
    Dumped the chump ! ! !

  10. S.I. Patsfan says: Aug 6, 2009 6:13 PM

    Not sure if he’s good with a camera, but given the Patriots went 18-1 after camera-gate, and came within two minutes of going undefeated, there’s evidence to suggest he won’t need to be.
    Rest of NFL – screwed unless Brady goes out. Sorry, ladies.

  11. Creepin Death says: Aug 6, 2009 6:17 PM

    Execellent! The last piece of the puzzle. GO PATS

  12. Zinn says: Aug 6, 2009 6:17 PM

    Props to the Pats. Time and time again they prove they have the best FO in the buisness. Well absent the sweetheart deal they gave KC on Cassel. Burgess is much better than anyone they will likely get with a 3rd and 5th.

  13. Wrathchild says: Aug 6, 2009 6:19 PM

    His best days are behind him. No way he can even stay healthy for a full season.

  14. TheSveed says: Aug 6, 2009 6:20 PM

    Burgess will be as good for the Patsies as one of the other Raider Rejects they took, Slomont Jordan. Good riddance to him.

  15. Tyler says: Aug 6, 2009 6:28 PM

    I bet, they tell him, they address his contract demands next year (so he shuts up this season), just to have a shot at the SB with a bought team this year…But even his current salary fits hardly under the cap…Crazy Al should stop making the Pats better. I’m sure the player the Eagles would have given Oakland is better, than the player Al will draft with NE’s 5th rounder.

  16. rusH1023 says: Aug 6, 2009 6:29 PM

    TheSveed-
    Huh? He was very effective with how we used him. Because of injuries, we were down to him and BenJarvus Green-Ellis — a rookie. We’ll take the ‘castoffs’ that your front office is too stupid to realize how they’re supposed to use them. Works fine for us.

  17. xscottx says: Aug 6, 2009 6:30 PM

    Raiders East
    Moss – pro bowler
    Lamont Jordan- injured most of the time.
    Doug Gabriel – cut rather quickly

  18. dr.3000 says: Aug 6, 2009 6:35 PM

    so the patsies signed another over the hill linebacker. what else is new? even if brady is healthy they are the 4 best team in the AFC. of course you’d never know that the way the media swings from their nuts.

  19. Journeyman says: Aug 6, 2009 6:38 PM

    Raiders got a 3rd in 2010 and a fifth in 2011

  20. shake&bake says: Aug 6, 2009 6:38 PM

    This guy is so washed up and injury prone. He had 2 good seasons and has gone nowhere since. They might get a year out of him and that’s about it.

  21. TFBuckFutter says: Aug 6, 2009 6:41 PM

    “Michael Lombardi reports that the Patriots gave up their third and fifth round picks in 2011 in the deal.”
    Why would the Raiders trade for draft picks? In their hands, they have absolutely no value. They’ll just use the third rounder on a punter, and the fifth on someone they will cut the day after the draft.

  22. INVAIDUH says: Aug 6, 2009 6:42 PM

    DcWhinerFan is just happy it’s not another
    Crapfoot post!

  23. TFBuckFutter says: Aug 6, 2009 6:42 PM

    “TheSveed says:
    August 6, 2009 6:20 PM
    Burgess will be as good for the Patsies as one of the other Raider Rejects they took, Slomont Jordan. Good riddance to him.”
    You misspelled Randy Moss’ name there….quite badly, actually.

  24. trixstal says: Aug 6, 2009 6:43 PM

    Good luck to all who play N.E. this year. It’s going to be one scary year for their opponents.
    Who do you double cover on their offense? Good luck!
    N.E. is going to be very strong this coming season.

  25. CardHock says: Aug 6, 2009 6:49 PM

    When you are taking cast offs from the Raiders you know your in trouble.
    Good thing for the Pats I hear he can hold and operate 2 cameras at the same time.

  26. DarthPirate says: Aug 6, 2009 6:50 PM

    Well the Raiders basically got Burgess off of the scrap pile for next to nothing. He had one outstanding year, a solid one or two, but he’s done now.
    This will be more of a LaMont Jordan guy for the Pats than a Randy Moss.

  27. CardHock says: Aug 6, 2009 6:51 PM

    I wouldnt be so sure the rest of the NFL is screwed Patsie.
    If you dont think people wont rush brady and aim to put some weight on that knee I got a few lobsters to sell you in kansas.

  28. S.I. Patsfan says: Aug 6, 2009 7:00 PM

    I believe Burgess had big years two years ago, not 5. Pro Bowl years. Double-digit sacks. While playing OLB in a 3-4. Keep trying, girls.

  29. clemenza says: Aug 6, 2009 7:04 PM

    new england is where vetran players are reborn,this is a great move for burgess and the pat’s ….the eagles drop the ball again- my guess is joe “nickles” banner low balling again…. maybe the idoits (jeff lurie,owner) state of the team address that the moron makes every year went to joe’s already big head PLEASE BANNER AND LURIE SELL THE TEAM AND GET THE HELL OUT OF MY SPORTS TOWN!!!

  30. WorldChampionBears2009 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:05 PM

    Amazing how all of this was said about Randy Moss when he was traded. Anyone care to think that simply no one was inspired enough to play for the Raiders? Hmm?!? If the FO is a joke in Oakland then why play for them. Just whine your way out to a better team.
    LOL. I wish this was possible outside of the NFL. You don’t like your job so you threaten to sit at home and not come to work and they still pay you and at the end of the day they either pay you more or transfer you to a better job.

  31. Raiders757 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:11 PM

    @ DcNinerFan
    Nothing like a biased twit reaching for a pathetic stab at the Raiders.
    When healthy, he made an impact with the Raiders and earned a Pro Bowl berth. He spent his last two seasons banged up, and his lack of performance had nothing to do with the team he played on. I can only wish him the best.

  32. Raiders757 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:13 PM

    @ Zinn
    “Burgess is much better than anyone they will likely get with a 3rd and 5th.”
    You may want to rethink that one. If the Patriots thought like you, they wouldn’t be where they are today.

  33. descendency says: Aug 6, 2009 7:16 PM

    Hopefully this works out as well as the last time the Raiders and Patriots traded a player for picks…
    Thank you Al Davis for Randy Moss.

  34. Raiders757 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:21 PM

    @ WorldChampionBears2009
    “Anyone care to think that simply no one was inspired enough to play for the Raiders?”
    That is no excuse for a pro athlete who gets paid millions of dollars. Randy Moss “mailed it in” with Oakland, and anyone who uses the Raiders recent history to defend that, is an idiot. A real man, lives up to what he is supposed to do. An athlete who loves the game, gives it 100% no matter the team he plays for. To even make such statement, is just out of line. Randy Moss deserves to never win a ring for what he did, and he never will.

  35. 305phinphan says: Aug 6, 2009 7:23 PM

    I love it!!!!! Let the Pats keep getting these washed up players!!!! If you are going to get someone who is up there in age atleast get someone who can still play like Jason Taylor….GO PHINS!!!!!

  36. rusH1023 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:25 PM

    @ clemenza
    I hear you because he doesn’t have a Lombardi to back his decisions, but you’re lucky to have Lurie. Aside from Kraft, name one owner who’s better than Lurie. I can’t think of one.

  37. mvlonergan says: Aug 6, 2009 7:35 PM

    This is one Pats fan who’s not happy with the move. I can’t believe Belichick traded for this guy, but I guess he does love his over the hill pass rushers. This has Duane Starks written all over it. I wish Belichick would just let the young guys play. Players don’t suddenly get healthy and fast when they hit thirty. Any time the Pats play a team with good TEs those slow thirty-something LBs get exposed. Then he puts in the young guys when they haven’t played all season and they predictably look lost.
    I count ten games on their schedule where the opponent’s TE fits that mold. It’s gonna be the freakin’ 2006 AFC Championship all over again. Slow linebacking corps against fast TE. Eight to twelve yard receptions all the way down the field. Why are all the other Pats fans happy about this?

  38. empty13 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:35 PM

    what – no junior seau? arent they getting vrabel back?
    who needs young fast kids to play LB… not the pats…

  39. Patriots51 says: Aug 6, 2009 7:41 PM

    Really all these camera get jokes are getting old…. Thats all you guys got.. it happened TWO YEARS AGO they got caught during week 1… in the 34 games since their 28-6… give me a f-ing break with the camera gate bullcrap.. if you not a pats fan thats fine… but dont come at me with that crap

  40. oaklandzombie says: Aug 6, 2009 7:43 PM

    @ S.I. Patsfan
    “I believe Burgess had big years two years ago, not 5. Pro Bowl years. Double-digit sacks. While playing OLB in a 3-4. ”
    Seriously? You really believe Burgess was a linebacker in Oakland in a 3-4 defense during his two double-digit sack seasons? You need to stick you things you know like the nut sweat on Brady’s jock strap.
    the Raiders never ran a 3-4 defense while Burgess was there, he was a defensive end in a 4-3 defense.
    Thanks for showing the board how retarded Pats fans are.

  41. BP says: Aug 6, 2009 7:44 PM

    He is in the last year of his contract. It is not likely he would have put up good numbers on yet another dismal Raider team. So he bitched and moaned his way onto the favorite to win it all.
    He will be used as a rushing specialist with the kids out there on running downs. He won’t be overworked. Belichick will use him at what he does best as Belichick uses all his players. He fills a last hole. Be afraid.

  42. CheckYourCloset says: Aug 6, 2009 8:16 PM

    You Patriot haters really need to come up with some new material. Maybe you could tell us about the steroids the Steelers used in the 70′s…….

  43. JoeSixPack says: Aug 6, 2009 8:25 PM

    The Raiders once again take advantage of the Patriots… first they got a 4th rounder for a WR who “lost a step” and now 2 picks for this washed up guy.

  44. SixBurghDude says: Aug 6, 2009 8:28 PM

    rusH1023,
    You don’t come across as mentally challenged, just obscurred a bit from drinking the CheaterAde, so hopefully you can follow along;
    The answer is rather simple. The worst PR nightmare that the “cash cow” that is the NFL could possibly face, is one that raises questions about the integrity of the product on the field.
    Think about the revenue lost if fans & more importantly gamblers, were unsure about whether there were a team or teams having a decidedly unfair advantage. It is for these reasons that Goodell destroyed the evidence that tied your cheats to much more than was let out & it is also for this reason that Belicheat knows that if he’s caught again, the NFL cannot afford to take the risk of addressing it in a public forum. Afterall, you know better than us, that he’s a genius. So surely, if I can figure it out, he can as well!
    Oh & did I mention?
    ONCE A CHEAT…ALWAYS A CHEAT!!!

  45. CardHock says: Aug 6, 2009 8:29 PM

    Burgess will get Dominated.

  46. CardHock says: Aug 6, 2009 8:31 PM

    S.I Patsfan
    Are you Peter King by chance?

  47. SixBurghDude says: Aug 6, 2009 8:34 PM

    CheckYourCloset,
    Surely you’re not so full of the CheaterAde that you’re gonna try to compare a rightful Dynasty that supposedly (never proven & not illegal, thus never punished) used steroids at a time when not only were they not a banned substance, but also when all other teams were doing it as well, ever heard Lyle Alzado’s story?
    Do you really think that in a game as brutal as the NFL, all opposing players in the 70′s were gonna concede that advantage to the Steeler’s alone, when their doing the same was not deemed as circumventing the rules of the time???
    How convenient of you however, to totally ignore the established fact, that your boy Rodney Harrison was on the receiving end of HGH shipments, as late as the week of the Super Bowl & the only thing his retiring from the game does is assure that your other thug Wolfork (knee divin’, eye gouging punk) can now be voted the NFL’s dirtiest player annually.
    Face it Masshole, your organization didn’t even exist prior to the current millenium & their recent success will always be viewed as TAINTED as they have chosen to operate as an arrogant, incorrigible band of malcontents!
    Now since you & yours choose to support & defend their deplorable actions for the purpose of self-satisfaction, you have the unenviable task of swallowing the tainted load that goes with it!!!

  48. patspsycho says: Aug 6, 2009 8:51 PM

    Suxburghdude,
    Worry about Ben Rapistberger.. you might lose him.

  49. NorthEagle says: Aug 6, 2009 8:53 PM

    oaklandzombie says:
    August 6, 2009 7:43 PM
    @ S.I. Patsfan
    “I believe Burgess had big years two years ago, not 5. Pro Bowl years. Double-digit sacks. While playing OLB in a 3-4. ”
    Seriously? You really believe Burgess was a linebacker in Oakland in a 3-4 defense during his two double-digit sack seasons? You need to stick you things you know like the nut sweat on Brady’s jock strap.
    the Raiders never ran a 3-4 defense while Burgess was there, he was a defensive end in a 4-3 defense.
    oaklandzombie’s correct, Burgess has never stood up as a linebacker in Oakland or Philly so I’m not convinced that this is a good match. I think Burgesss would have been a better situational pass rushing DE in Philly

  50. Paul_R. says: Aug 6, 2009 8:56 PM

    SixBurghDude,
    You’re not going to declare to the world that only the Patriots were videotaping teams, are you? As I recall, aside from the statements of former coaches admitting it and worse, the memo that was sent out was sent to all NFL teams.
    But wait. I know. The Steelers were saints, weren’t they (along with all the rest of the teams), right?

  51. BP says: Aug 6, 2009 8:59 PM

    Face it – the stealer cheap-shots were the biggest joke in all of sports until steroids were developed.
    And they were illegal, as taking any prescription drug without a prescription was and is illegal. And we know many of those players have admitted taking the juice. Hell, they’re all dying like it’s going out of style.
    But the Patriots have been exonerated by the NFL. “No competitive advantage was gained”. Read it and weep you cheap-shot turds.
    How’s the accused rapist doing in camp?

  52. tom skiffington says: Aug 6, 2009 9:01 PM

    dear jeff and joe:
    once again the patriots show the NFL world who the REAL gold standard is while you sit there at the nova care complex and dutch rudder each other while counting your millions that us sheep eagles fans continue to heap into your coffers year after year.
    it’s cool with you that the eagles haven’t won a title since 1960. cuz your team has won 3 this decade. you made your trillions, now please sell the team to someone that wants to win. i hear pat croce’s not doing much these days…
    sincerely,
    the city of philadelphia

  53. mpatrick says: Aug 6, 2009 9:01 PM

    Mike, love your stuff and you are usually right on, but Woods will start with Burgess coming on for pass rush situations.

  54. mpatrick says: Aug 6, 2009 9:04 PM

    Sorry Mike, should have known you didn’t mess up. Gregg, Burgess comes off the bench for pass rush situations.

  55. SixBurghDude says: Aug 6, 2009 9:18 PM

    Only a Masshole would defend their team’s PROVEN cheating by stating claims of another team’s ALLEGED cheating, especially when that alleged method of cheating was yet another example of which one of their players were PROVEN to have committed???

  56. Paul_R. says: Aug 6, 2009 9:20 PM

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/10646197
    “We consider the tapes of our coaching staff during our games against the New England Patriots to be a non-issue,” Rooney said in a statement. “In our opinion, they had no impact on the results of those games.”

  57. SteelersSB44 says: Aug 6, 2009 9:24 PM

    Look, as a Steeler fan, I think NE is going to be very good this year. I hope we get to meet each other in the AFC Championship Game. NE (with Brady) has had our number and I believe we have the team this year to beat them. Regardless of video taping crap that happened in the past, it should be left in the past. Pats fans are right. They weren’t the only ones doing it I’m sure, they just happened to get caught. (I personally believe that they were doing it better and more often, but at this point, it’s water under the bridge).
    The Pats are known for going after guys who perhaps are past their prime but at least half the time, if not more, it’s worked out in their favor. Especially in Randy, another product of Oakland.
    I for one am excited for the possibility to get New England’s best and see who really is the best team in the AFC. (I’m sure SD, IND, BAL, and TEN will have their say when it’s all over)

  58. as big as a hat says: Aug 6, 2009 9:39 PM

    Oakland hasn’t run a 3-4 in a long time. They normally don’t blitz, either. Their cornerbacks play man coverage close to 90% of the time. Everyone knows Moss is a great receiver, even the senile Al Davis. That’s why he traded for him when nobody else would. But Randy was being Randy, and after a couple of San Diego DBs cheap-shotted him on a deep skinny post, Randy decided he wasn’t going to earn his salary until he got moved. Burgess was a situational guy the Eagles didn’t want, and jumped at the chance to polish his resume in Oakland. Then he pouted about the contract he signed, and decided if Randy can be Randy, so can he. I could go on, but you haters aren’t just biased, you’re stupid, too.

  59. Paul_R. says: Aug 6, 2009 9:53 PM

    @SteelersSB44
    Thank you. Finally a guy with his head on right.
    I think you’ve also pegged the coming 6 playoff teams pretty accurately and I, for one, would love to see a Steelers/Patriots AFC Championship Game. Your team’s defense was awesome last year. Now, with Holmes stepping up his game a bit towards the end of the season and into the playoffs and, hopefully, another good complementary receiver, it could open up the offense a bit and help the running game also. The defense is essentially the same, minus the loss of Foote to the Lions, but having Timmons stepping into the position. So, they should be about the same this year.
    You’ve probably kept up with the additions on the Patriots and they have addressed needs on defense and gotten younger, too, so their defense will be noticeably better than last year. Although some people question whether Brady will be “fully recovered”, from everything I’ve read, he’ll be fine, including the mental aspect. So, I expect, barring anything major, that they’ll return to the playoffs to challenge again. It should be interesting! Good luck!

  60. SixBurghDude says: Aug 6, 2009 9:53 PM

    PaulR says:
    “You’re not going to declare to the world that only the Patriots were videotaping teams, are you?”
    No, but I am rightfully declaring that they were the ONLY team PROVEN to have been & punished for doing so, just not punished enough!
    What else would you expect an owner as classy as Dan Rooney to say, especially since his financial interests are tied directly to the integrity of the game? Surely even an ignorant TOOL like yourself could surmise that the worst PR nightmare that the NFL could face, would be one that questions the integrity of the game!!!
    @ BP-
    You conveniently forgot to mention that the NFL also named the games vs. the Steelers, on multiple occassions, as those when the cheating assuredly took place!!!

  61. meezle says: Aug 6, 2009 9:57 PM

    I hate the patriots with a passion, but you can’t deny their will to win.
    Damn I like this move. Even if it doesn’t work out they didn’t give up a whole lot for it
    Smart play

  62. Paul_R. says: Aug 6, 2009 10:01 PM

    SixBurghDude, I expected as much. But, Rooney would say that the videotaping had no effect for one of two reasons.
    1. He was telling the truth. The videotaping had no effect on the outcome of either AFC Championship game.
    2. He had to say something to that effect so that no other “cans of worms” had to be opened that would expose other teams, including the Steelers.
    Pick one.

  63. BP says: Aug 6, 2009 10:14 PM

    @ Sixburgh
    The NFL investigated the issue and stated “no competitive advantage was gained”. Case closed.
    By either the game-day rules, the bylaws or the memo the only violation the Pats were guilty of was the location from which they taped. TAPING SIGNALS IS ALLOWED!
    There was no competitive advantage gained because, as Walsh stated, they were not used on game day. Belichick thought if they were in fact not used that day it was okay. But the rules have the location restrictions to help assure they cannot be used that day. He violated the location restrictions with the taping. That’s it.
    I’m afraid I will have to take the NFL’s word on this rather than yours.

  64. SixBurghDude says: Aug 6, 2009 10:17 PM

    Paul R says:
    @SteelersSB44
    Thank you. Finally a guy with his head on right.
    YET THE SEARCH IS ONGOING FOR A MASSHOLE OF WHICH THE SAME CAN BE SAID, GO FIGURE!

  65. SteelersSB44 says: Aug 6, 2009 10:18 PM

    Paul R,
    Thanks bro, and yes, it should be interesting, barring a significant injury from either team.
    I agree with you regarding our receiving corps, and if Sweed can step in and replace Washington (and so far he’s having a productive camp) that will help out tons. Our O-line is obviously a question mark (FYI, Stapleton is out probably a month with a knee problem), but hopefully with a year together under their belt, they’ll be much improved.
    As far as Brady is concerned, I have no doubt that his knee is 100%, however I think it’s gonna take him at least 3 or 4 games to get used to guys falling and landing around his knee again. Which is why I think it’s a great move on his part to play in all, or at least 3 preseason games. After he gets over that mental hurdle, I feel he’ll be back to 2007 Brady.
    Like you said, should be interesting. There’s a possibility that our D is better this year. Timmons is an athletic freak and if he learns the scheme enough, should be a beast this year. And watch out for Joe Burnett, a rookie DB. He’s been amazing in training camp. Although now that I think about it, it could be because Ben has had a bit of a weak arm and been making a few questionable decisions while throwing some INT’s. But I’m sure he’ll bounce back.

  66. Paul_R. says: Aug 6, 2009 10:48 PM

    @SteelersSB44
    It’s still early in training camp and I’m sure Ben’s arm strength will be there come gameday. I did read about Stapleton’s tweak, but, again, there’s still time and he can still be involved with some of the things that go on in training camp.
    Your team should fare pretty well with the AFC West on this year’s schedule. The NFC North won’t be a breeze, but I think the Steelers will handle them well. I think the Vikings could be the only serious challenge to them this year. The Packers and Bears will show up, but I don’t see them beating the Steelers. And, I don’t even have to mention the Lions (but, I just did).
    The Ravens want to challenge the Steelers, but I don’t see it yet. They’re thin at wide receiver and their defense won’t be quite as good as last year. They’ll still be good, though, but end up the Steelers “kid brother” in the division. The team that could make some noise is the Bengals with Palmer healthy and a pretty good defense. They might even challenge the Ravens and, possibly, get a wild card. (but, I think it’s still a stretch for them)
    As far as the other two games, well, you’ve got the Titans up first and they’ll be geared up for the game. So, that should be a contest. I don’t see it at all yet with the Dolphins. The Steelers might lose two or three games (maybe), but I don’t see it being more.

  67. Paul_R. says: Aug 6, 2009 10:49 PM

    @SixBurghDude
    You have a very serious anger problem. Please seek professional help.

  68. SixBurghDude says: Aug 6, 2009 11:02 PM

    @ PaulR-
    He hate me!
    @ PaulR & BP-
    Would love to hear you whinny cheats if the roles were reversed, you TOOLS even use the injury excuse like no other, can only imagine the outcry if your team faced an unfair competitive advantage in 2 AFC Title games???
    Keep drinkin’ the CheaterAde Massholes!!!
    Just wanna ignore the FACT that your boy Harrison received shipments of HGH the week of the Super Bowl?

  69. Flying elvis says: Aug 6, 2009 11:26 PM

    “Keep drinkin’ the CheaterAde Massholes!!!”
    It’s the NEW ENGLAND Patriots, not the Massachusetts Patriots. Why don’t you leave the banter to the people who actually know the teams.

  70. BP says: Aug 7, 2009 12:15 AM

    Sixburghdope
    The Pats own the cheap-shot piece of shiit stealers, and they don’t need any signals to do it.
    How could you ever expect to consistently compete with the Pats with that dumb as a f’n stump rapist you have for a QB? Be real fool.
    You screwed the Seahawks out of a championship with a half dozen bad calls. Then you went on a big “run” beating teams with a combined 28-20 record to win the other. And that had bad calls too. You pus sacks are a joke and anybody with a clue knows it.

  71. Jackal138 says: Aug 7, 2009 12:42 AM

    It’s the Boston Patriots.
    Just because they decided to name their team foolishly after a region and not a city (fitting considering the hubris of Pats fans), doesn’t mean that they aren’t tied to one.
    I mean, the Steelers aren’t the “Western Pennsylvania Coal Country Steelers”. At least the Titans confine it to one state!

  72. Jackal138 says: Aug 7, 2009 12:43 AM

    Also, no other team has been punished for cheating by the NFL.
    Doesn’t matter who else did it, doesn’t matter what the advantage was or wasn’t. Only the Pats have been fined a first round pick for filming signals.
    You can change your opinions, but you can’t change the facts.

  73. GoBears84 says: Aug 7, 2009 1:42 AM

    everybody aquainted with the cheatriots farm team, the oakland raiders?

  74. FBGeek77 says: Aug 7, 2009 2:00 AM

    Woah, lots of hate here. I’m a Masshole, and sure, I dig the Pats, but let’s not try to pretend they weren’t cheating. Maybe they didn’t do it well enough to gain “a competitive advantage”, but they sure tried. And please don’t tell me “Belichick thought it was okay if he did it with a green camera, not a yellow one” or whatever that nonsense is — it’s an insult to Bill’s genius to say he didn’t know the rules.
    And also, what’s with the constant whining about refs last year re: the Steelers? Look, the Steelers won. And, in addition to being a Masshole, I’m a Cowboys fan, and I hate that the Steelers now have more trophies than the ‘Boys, but c’mon, “bad” calls happen, but most of the time, you guys define “bad calls” as “calls that went against my wishes.” Take a step off the ledge and appreciate the sport as a whole, and you won’t go so ape-s**t crazy when the team you love to hate takes the top prize.

  75. dmstorm22 says: Aug 7, 2009 2:23 AM

    I just don’t see how he will fit in New England. He is a guy who has been a situational 4-3 DE pass rusher his whole career. Suddenly he’s gonna turn into James Harrison coming off the edge at a position he’s never played?? And, its not like Bill Belichick has been great in bringing in overrated OLB acquisitions (Adalius Thomas anyone, I guess its safe to say he’s not the same guy without Ray Lewis next to him, and Ed Reed behind it).
    As a Raider fan, I am actually happy. We got a third round pick for a guy that would have crap-walked his way through the season much like Moss in ’06.
    BTW, I can’t believe how this turned into a spygate post. It’s over. The Pats, even though they did cheat, they won three superbowls. They were a great team, emphasis on WERE. They have done a great job trying to emulate the 03-04 Colts the past couple years, with a semi-porous defense and a high-flying offense, and it will lead to exactly what it led the 03-04 Colts: nothing.
    Steelerfans, stop throwing spygate out at them, just throw this: In the time that Tom Brady last won a superbowl till now, your team has won two superbowls, and theirs has lost three playoff games, first by losing to Jake Plummer by 14, then blowing a 21-3 lead, then by losing at 18-0 to a 10-6 #5 seed from the weaker conference, and also getting caught for cheating. My how the world has turned in four short years.

  76. Dawn says: Aug 7, 2009 4:06 AM

    Jackal said “Also, no other team has been punished for cheating by the NFL.”
    To name one team, the Broncos were indeed punished for exceeding the salary cap two years in a row. Was it a coincidence that they won the Super Bowl in those two years as well?

  77. footballnut says: Aug 7, 2009 9:18 AM

    SixBurghDude: You just made a valid point for once…yes Goodell certainly destroyed all of those tapes to bury this and not uncover a LEAGUE WIDE practice…
    Otherwise he would’ve ran rough shod all over the Pats if they were in fact the only ones, not to mention you don’t think there are other practices league wide of gamesmanship that could’ve been uncovered?
    You’re a disgrace to Steelers nation, thank God for fans like SteelersSB44 at least you can have a rational fan to fan talk with him…if you have the best franchise in football ever then why are you so defensive regarding the Pats? Shut your mouth, sit back and enjoy the upcoming season.
    You guys have won two since our last, why such a bitch? Only queers and women complain as much as you do….hmmmm.
    Burgess is a good pick up as he will be the pass rusher, but he’ll be in a rotation with the other LB’s other than Mayo and Thomas as they’ll be on the field for the majority of snaps. Is he going to get 12 sacks this year, unlikely but he’ll be effective with BB.
    I remember the other garbage…Ted Washington is washed up, Moss doesn’t have it anymore, Sammy Morris? who cares say the Dolphin fans as well as Welker…If Burgess is a complete waste then Belichick will take it from here, trust me Boston fans don’t ball wash their teams, if you think they do you’ve never been here.
    And Jackyl you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about. The Pats play in Foxboro not Boston it’s miles away. And two other teams have been busted for cheating in the past…
    We’ll see who’s at the top of the pile this year folks.

  78. SteelersSB44 says: Aug 7, 2009 10:54 AM

    BP says:
    August 7, 2009 12:15 AM
    Sixburghdope
    The Pats own the cheap-shot piece of shiit stealers, and they don’t need any signals to do it.
    How could you ever expect to consistently compete with the Pats with that dumb as a f’n stump rapist you have for a QB? Be real fool.
    You screwed the Seahawks out of a championship with a half dozen bad calls. Then you went on a big “run” beating teams with a combined 28-20 record to win the other. And that had bad calls too. You pus sacks are a joke and anybody with a clue knows it.
    BP is proof that The Pats have their share of ignorant fans. I find it funny that he called someone a fool in his tantrum… Hi, kettle, this is the pot…you’re black.

  79. SteelersSB44 says: Aug 7, 2009 11:04 AM

    Ok, look, if Pats fans want Steeler fans to stop throwing around Spygate 2007(which I agree is old news), then I think Pats fans need to let SB40 go. I mean that was 3 1/2 years ago, and you’re getting on Steeler fans about something that happend 2 years ago. So we got a couple calls that swung our way, you’re telling me that hasn’t happened to you guys too (anyone remember the Tuck Rule Game?) A case can be made that if that call doesn’t go your way, there’s no way you have 3 SB’s, there’s a chance that call would have never let the Patriot mystique develope in the first place.
    But it happened, and now the Pats are a mini-dynasty and Pittsburgh is trying to do the same thing. Let’s hope both teams are healthy and they meet in the AFC Championship Game. I think every NFL fan, not only Steeler and Pat fans would enjoy that game. I like our chances and I feel as a Steeler Fan, that I need them to beat a Brady led Pats team to call ourselves the best in the AFC.

  80. DirtyBusiness says: Aug 7, 2009 11:06 AM

    Great move by the Patriots, once AGAIN. For all you haters that don’t seem to understand about winning. You win at all costs. Cheat if you must. I could give a crap. Remember cheaters ALWAYS win. By the way, would you rather have a team that got caught cheating or have a player, as in Rottenburger who commits violent acts. He will never be the same. His name will always be linked to rape, as the Patriots will be linked to cheating. Hmmmm…not to hard to decided on here. Cheating is not breaking the law of the land, but rape is. It’s a crime that is punishable by years in a penitentiary, but as we all know the ever so dim witted old coot Arlen Spector will see to it that Rottenburger will be set free.

  81. patsSB44champs says: Aug 7, 2009 11:17 AM

    909RaiderLifer says:
    August 6, 2009 6:06 PM
    Andrew has someone else to reminisce with about “the good ‘ol days” with…..
    IF Burgess still has the fire, he will help the Cheatriots.
    Yes, that’s such a huge IF, leaving the Black Hole for the team that’s going to win the Super Bowl this year. He’s the final piece.
    By the way, thanks again for Randy Moss. Our success would not be as easily obtained without your senile old fool of an owner.

  82. patsSB44champs says: Aug 7, 2009 11:24 AM

    CardHock says:
    August 6, 2009 6:49 PM
    When you are taking cast offs from the Raiders you know your in trouble.
    Good thing for the Pats I hear he can hold and operate 2 cameras at the same time.
    Not only that, but I hear he has nude pix of everyone in the league.
    Oh, and about those castoffs… Randy Moss has worked just fine for us.

  83. patsSB44champs says: Aug 7, 2009 11:28 AM

    305phinphan says:
    August 6, 2009 7:23 PM
    I love it!!!!! Let the Pats keep getting these washed up players!!!! If you are going to get someone who is up there in age atleast get someone who can still play like Jason Taylor….GO PHINS!!!!!
    Did you bother to watch any Redskins games last year? Your boy is over the hill… Joey Portapotty is in for a rude shock I’m afraid.

  84. patsSB44champs says: Aug 7, 2009 11:32 AM

    SixBurghDude says:
    August 6, 2009 8:28 PM
    rusH1023,
    You don’t come across as mentally challenged, just obscurred a bit from drinking the CheaterAde, so hopefully you can follow along;
    The answer is rather simple. The worst PR nightmare that the “cash cow” that is the NFL could possibly face, is one that raises questions about the integrity of the product on the field.
    Think about the revenue lost if fans & more importantly gamblers, were unsure about whether there were a team or teams having a decidedly unfair advantage. It is for these reasons that Goodell destroyed the evidence that tied your cheats to much more than was let out & it is also for this reason that Belicheat knows that if he’s caught again, the NFL cannot afford to take the risk of addressing it in a public forum. Afterall, you know better than us, that he’s a genius. So surely, if I can figure it out, he can as well!
    Oh & did I mention?
    ONCE A CHEAT…ALWAYS A CHEAT!!!
    I think that last line would apply to the Steroid Curtain of the 70′s. Man I love you Squealer fans.

  85. patsSB44champs says: Aug 7, 2009 11:35 AM

    SixBurghDude says:
    August 6, 2009 8:34 PM
    CheckYourCloset,
    Surely you’re not so full of the CheaterAde that you’re gonna try to compare a rightful Dynasty that supposedly (never proven & not illegal, thus never punished) used steroids at a time when not only were they not a banned substance, but also when all other teams were doing it as well, ever heard Lyle Alzado’s story?
    Do you really think that in a game as brutal as the NFL, all opposing players in the 70′s were gonna concede that advantage to the Steeler’s alone, when their doing the same was not deemed as circumventing the rules of the time???
    How convenient of you however, to totally ignore the established fact, that your boy Rodney Harrison was on the receiving end of HGH shipments, as late as the week of the Super Bowl & the only thing his retiring from the game does is assure that your other thug Wolfork (knee divin’, eye gouging punk) can now be voted the NFL’s dirtiest player annually.
    Face it Masshole, your organization didn’t even exist prior to the current millenium & their recent success will always be viewed as TAINTED as they have chosen to operate as an arrogant, incorrigible band of malcontents!
    Now since you & yours choose to support & defend their deplorable actions for the purpose of self-satisfaction, you have the unenviable task of swallowing the tainted load that goes with it!!!
    Well now that you mention “dirty players,” let’s see: James Harrison’s late hits in the Super Bowl, Ryan Clark’s dirty hit on Wes Welker, Mike Tomlin laughing about it on the sideline, Hines Ward’s regular chop blocks and late hits… I could go on…

  86. Brohamma says: Aug 7, 2009 12:02 PM

    Keep the Patriots articles coming Florio!!
    It’s great for the site. Just take a look at the number of comments anything to do about the Patriots gets! Hell! You should inquire as to a jersey sponsorship.
    Regarding Burgess, very nice move for New England. With Warren, Wilfork and Seymour up front teams will have to really make an effort to pick up AT, Mayo or Burgess. I think it’s safe to say that this aquisition will land N.E. in the top 7 of the defensive sacks department.

  87. dmstorm22 says: Aug 7, 2009 12:15 PM

    I can’t believe Pats fans are complaining about the Steelers in the 70′s took steroids, when the Pats have had a player THIS decade convicted of receiving HGH.
    I can’t believe Pats fans are complaining about the Steelers having dirty players, when they cheered for the dirtiest player in recent memory in Rodne Harrison, and still cheer for Vince “I’ll Gouge Your Eyes” Wilfork.
    The worst one: I can’t believe Pats fans are complaining about bad officiating in Super Bowl XL, when the pats benifitted from the worst call ever in NFL history in the “Tuck Rule” and then from the non-Pass Interference in the 2003 AFC Championship Game.
    Pats fans are so damn hypocritical. Get over yourselves. Your team was once a dynasty. You are now the 2003-04 Colts. A great offense, a mediocre defense, bound to lose come playoff time. Have fun.

  88. SixBurghDude says: Aug 7, 2009 1:13 PM

    @ dmstorm22-
    Amen, bro & thx. for being the voice of reason!
    @ FBGeek77-
    Well spoken.

  89. dmstorm22 says: Aug 7, 2009 1:40 PM

    @ SixBurhDude
    No prob.
    BTW, just so you all know, I’m not a Steelers fan. I’m a Ravens fan. I hate the Steelers, but I still respect them, their franchise and their fans much more than you guys from Foxboro.

  90. Paul_R. says: Aug 7, 2009 2:59 PM

    SteelersSB44, I agree that there’s those types of fans rooting for all teams in the NFL, the type of fan that I would never aspire to be. On message boards, they’d be called “idiot trolls” and then ignored.
    You, however, seem like a reasonable guy, someone who’s level-headed about most things. I’ve never yelled at Steelers fans about steroids back in the 70′s. They weren’t banned and probably most guys on most teams were using them. So what’s the point? One of my friends, Steve Furness, played on the Steelers. He grew up less than a half mile from me in Warwick, RI. I used to play basketball with his younger brother Pete.
    I think the Steelers brass has a good handle on what the Patriots were doing in the past and, as Rooney said, they know that it had no effect on the outcome of their games. Obviously, when a tape shows coaches waving at the cameraman, it’s obvious that they know that there’s a camera pointed at them. And, I’ll assume that those coaches were intelligent enough to know what to do when preparing for their next opponent. I believe that Belichick was really just trying to mess with Mangini (because of their intense feud) because there had been an incident by the Jets late the previous year.
    In any case, afterwards, the Patriots became the most scrutinized team in the NFL and they’ve done nothing to risk receiving another penalty from Goodell. If the rest of the NFL fans even had a clue about these things, they’d let go of the past and go forward.
    You’ve got a good team over there and I expect they’ll do well. Hopefully, my team will meet yours in the playoffs. If so, let the fun begin.
    As for the rest of these guys, I wish they were worth my time, but they’re not. And, I’m not going to tie myself up to a couple of mules and get dragged through mud puddles so that I can relate at their level. It is SO not worth the time and trouble.
    You have a good day!

  91. Jackal138 says: Aug 7, 2009 6:16 PM

    Good job at picking apart the semantics of my sentances, Pats fans. A good way to obscure an argument is to pretend you don’t understand what the opposition is saying because they aren’t EXACT with their word choice.
    No other team was fined draft picks for videotaping signals.
    I have no doubt the Bills cheated, too. The Bills cheating on the salary cap has no bearing on the Patriots cheating by filming signals. The only correlation is that they both worked to tarnish the championships of their respective teams.

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