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Spielman pumps up Rosenfels

The Minnesota Vikings have done a good job of keeping under wraps any internal disagreements that might have arisen during the courtship of Brett Favre and, more recently, the question of whether Tarvaris Jackson or Sage Rosenfels should be the team’s starting quarterback.

But there’s an intriguing dynamic at play that could put coach Brad Childress and V.P. of player personnel Rick Spielman at odds.

Jackson was drafted in 2006 by the so-called “triangle of authority” that featured Childress, V.P. of football operations Rob Brzezinski, and former player personnel exec Fran Foley.  In a haze of actual and/or apparent resume exaggeration, Foley was promptly fired after the 2006 draft, and Spielman thereafter joined the team.

So it’s no surprise that Spielman eventually pursued Rosenfels, whom Spielman acquired via trade in 2002 while working for the Dolphins. 

“This is my second time being around Sage, and he’s been a very,
extremely talented backup-type quarterback
,” Spielman told Sid Hartman of the Minneapolis Star Tribune.  “He has an
opportunity to come in here and compete with Tarvaris, and we feel very fortunate to have two type quarterbacks like that. . . .

“He’s kind of shown, when he’s had the opportunity, that he can go out
there and perform,” Spielman added. “He’s made a lot of calls.  I
remember last year in our game [against the Texans], when Schaub went
down and he came in and went [21-for-29].  He did throw an interception,
but he threw two touchdown passes and showed that he has the ability to
make some good decisions, can move the football team and is a very
smart football player and is quite familiar with the West Coast system.”

In other words, Spielman might be pulling for Rosenfels, and Childress might be pulling for Jackson.  Though neither Spielman nor Childress has said or done anything to suggest that they disagree in this regard, the reality is that the outcome of the quarterback battle, which undoubtedly won’t be fully resolved until at least the first month of the season has unfolded, could go a long way toward determining whether and to what extent Spielman goes to bat for Childress if/when owner Zygi Wilf solicits opinions regarding whether a new coach should be hired.

Though Spielman says that the decision regarding “who’s going to give us the best chance to win” rests with Childress, the reality could be that Spielman will be more likely to support the coach behind closed doors if Childress gives Rosenfels his long-awaited crack at being a starting quarterback.

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  1. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Aug 6, 2009 9:12 AM

    He showed some great decision making ability against the Colts last year. Nothing like giving the game away with two completely unnecessary fumbles.

  2. StartTarvaris says: Aug 6, 2009 9:28 AM

    He’ll continue to back a good back-up for us. Nothing wrong with that!

  3. PKep85 says: Aug 6, 2009 9:42 AM

    “This is my second time being around Sage, and he’s been a very, extremely talented backup-type quarterback,” Spielman told Sid Hartman of the Minneapolis Star Tribune. “He has an opportunity to come in here and compete with Tarvaris, and we feel very fortunate to have two type quarterbacks like that. . . .”
    So the fact that the Vikings have 2 BACKUP quarterbacks, but no starter should say more about what the team should expect this year again from that position.

  4. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 6, 2009 9:44 AM

    And the drama/dysfunction/hype/queen-saturation continues…
    I’d completely forgotten about Foley and Resume-gate. Add another slimeball incident to the 4 mile scroll of Queens scandals.
    Just curious: I wonder how “the triangle of authority” feels about Cutler slipping through their fingers and landing on the front door of a divison rival?
    (I bet they’re not warm, fuzzy feelings).
    Why don’t they just get it over with a can Childress-wearer already?
    And start packing up for the imminent move to L.A.?

  5. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 9:44 AM

    BernardPollardIsAnAss says:
    August 6, 2009 9:12 AM
    He showed some great decision making ability against the Colts last year. Nothing like giving the game away with two completely unnecessary fumbles.
    ————————-
    When is a fumble necessary?

  6. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 9:47 AM

    “Though Spielman says that the decision regarding “who’s going to give us the best chance to win” rests with Childress, the reality could be that Spielman will be more likely to support the coach behind closed doors if Childress gives Rosenfels his long-awaited crack at being a starting quarterback.”
    ———————–
    Long-awaited? Didn’t he get his chance in 2007 and 2008? Funny thing is one of those chances came from a Jared Allen low hit on Schaub.
    And after Rosenfels came in and played for Schaub the Texans repay the Vikings by trading them Rosenfels?
    Don’t get me wrong.. He’s Minnesota’s best bet right now. At least until “that itch” comes back.

  7. meezle says: Aug 6, 2009 9:50 AM

    What was T-Jacks passer rating and record last season? It wasn’t his fault they lost to the eagles in the playoffs, #3 defense in the league and how many other qbs has asante samuel gotten a pick 6 on?
    Lay off the kid, u see what happened when nyg let the retard know as the 97 million $ man play through the criticism, he some how back pedaled his was to a sb.
    Not likely here but a good argument.

  8. BleedGreen says: Aug 6, 2009 10:05 AM

    I dunno, I think Sage could play very well as a starter. He’d probably be better if he’d, you know, get to play with and against the 1st team O and D on a consistent basis. The guy has come off the bench and played well for just about every team he’s been on. OK, so 1 game he had 2 fumbles. Should they have benched Peyton in that game against the Chargers for throwing 5INTs? Tom Brady had 2 fumbles in a game THREE TIMES in 2006 on his way to 12 for the year. Maybe they should have benched him too.
    Guess Brady has poor decision making huh?
    Note: I’m an Eagles fan, and really could give a rats ass about the Vikings, but I’m just calling this like I see it. Sage can do well if he’s given a true opportunity, not only going in because Schaub has a hangnail, and the instant he feels better, Sage gets the hook.

  9. ZN0rseman says: Aug 6, 2009 10:15 AM

    I think Childress has done a good job with this team, but Tavaris is absolutely TERRIBLE and any coach who can’t see that doesn’t deserve to be coaching. So, I sincerely hope he’s not backing Jackson in any way, shape or form at this point.
    $0.02,
    –Z

  10. empty13 says: Aug 6, 2009 10:26 AM

    t-jack was 3-4 as a qb last year. gus was 7-3.
    yup t-jack didnt win that playoff game at all. he should get some blame.

  11. ZombieRevolution says: Aug 6, 2009 10:29 AM

    Florio writes: “Spielman might be pulling for Rosenfels, and Childress might be pulling for Jackson. ”
    I would not get too concerned about this, this is just Florio stirring the pot of beans, speculating again on the slimmest of evidence.

  12. topcide says: Aug 6, 2009 10:34 AM

    why anyone would ever want to start tavaris is beyond me.

  13. mixman34 says: Aug 6, 2009 10:36 AM

    Dewey Axewound why are you so angry? It’s only football, everything will be ok there lil guy….

  14. Bob Loblaw says: Aug 6, 2009 10:53 AM

    Most likely Speilamn was just feeding positivity about all the QBs to Sid, but the Old Geezer just pulls the quotes on Sage for this column. Sid isn’t exactly known for balanced reporting.
    Not that Sage won’t end up as the starter anyways. Look, if the Bears go 9-7 with Kyle Orton last year, all Sage has to do is be just as good as Orton was. That’s an easily attainable goal. The Vikings have a better D that the aging and beat up Bears D of a year ago, better receivers, a better O-line, and as good as Matt Forte did carrying the Bears offense as a rookie, I’d take Adrian Peterson over him 100 times out of 100. In fact, Forte’s rookie season was about equivilent to what Chester Taylor did in 2006 — his only year as a starter in the NFL.
    And I’m not dissing the Bears — they area solid team who may be even better with Cutler. It’s just that the 2009 Vikings match up in every area better than the 2008 Bears team that had a winning record.
    And Mr. Dewey, the Vikings had first crack at Cutler and didn’t want him, so he didn’t slip through their fingers. The Vikings were the first team the Broncos contacted when trying to trade for Matt Cassell. The Vikings just didn’t want to give up a 1st round picks for 3 straight years (after giving up one for Jared Allen last year) for a QB who was statistically good, but has personal health issues, didn’t carry his team to victory, wasn’t a respected leader on the field, and didn’t have a very good reputation in the locker room and off the field.

  15. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 10:58 AM

    meezle says:
    August 6, 2009 9:50 AM
    What was T-Jacks passer rating and record last season? It wasn’t his fault they lost to the eagles in the playoffs, #3 defense in the league and how many other qbs has asante samuel gotten a pick 6 on?
    Lay off the kid, u see what happened when nyg let the retard know as the 97 million $ man play through the criticism, he some how back pedaled his was to a sb.
    Not likely here but a good argument.
    ——————————
    It wasn’t his fault they lost to the Eagles? Whose fault was it? Was it Childress’ fault for starting Tarvaris? Is that your contention?
    The Eagles were held in check on the ground. McNabb had a nice game, but Minnesota’s pass defense is not good, so that’s expected.
    Peterson and Taylor each got 4 yards per carry in the game, and the Vikings more than doubled the Eagles’ rushing yards. So the Vikings stopped the run and established their own running game.
    Tarvaris stunk up the joint. He had a 45 QB rating while completing 43% of his passes for a modest 164 yards. 0 TDs, 1 INT.. Oh, and a fumble. That’s a downright shitty day for most QBs. For Jackson it’s a below average day, but not shitty. In his 5 starts last season, he averaged 188 yards passing. And more than half Tarvaris’ completions in that game went to TEs and RBs. That’s also on par with his game.

  16. RagnartheViking says: Aug 6, 2009 10:59 AM

    Bleed, you’ll have to excuse (ignore rather) Dewey and jimicos. They, and about 15 other non Viking fans come onto every Vikings thread and piss all over everything Minnesota.
    Dewey is so dense, he is pissed off because there are “like 999,443,221 posts about the Vikings.”
    There has been 1 about the Bears in the last 10 days, and that is because Bobby Wade said Urlacher said Cutler was a pussy. Otherwise, not a post, not 1! I guess that’s because no one cares about the Bears. In reality, Florio sees what an uproar posting about Favre/Vikings caused. It’s carried over even agter the fact. What this bozo and all others like him don’t realize, is that PFT gets paid by the amount of traffic on the site, so, by continually, ad infinitum posting thier blather, they are making sure there will be a lot more Vikings posts. Kinda idiotic isn’t it?
    Now, Dewey will come back with either a blow job or anal sex reference,( due to his burgeoning homesexuality, or is that repressed? don’t know, don’t care….. not that there’s anything wrong with that.) a reference to what a bunch of criminals the Vikings are, throw in a love boat jab, say how dumb Chilly is, call the Williams wall fat, toss in a see ya in LA nugget, and last but not least proofread my post for spelling and puncuation errors.
    I don’t know know, I guess it’s an inferiority complex, or maybe men in braids really turn him on? That would explain his vitrol for all things purple, he’s uncomfortable with his sexuality.
    More likely is that he know his team is 2nd rate and can’t win unless a host of things go wrong for the Vikings. keep the faith Dewey, but I doubt they will “Bear down” this year.

  17. meezle says: Aug 6, 2009 11:10 AM

    Thank you jimicos, I stand somewhat corrected.
    But with regards to their rushing average, didn’t peterson have like a 60+ yard td. Keep that in perspective when talking about their rushing average. Besides that run they pretty much shut down their running game.
    The eagles had no running game all year so no need to even bring that up. Let’s say this, T-Jack didn’t lose the game but he damn sure didn’t help win it.
    Plus the eagles were just a better team period.

  18. MyVersionTheTruth says: Aug 6, 2009 11:28 AM

    jimicos says :
    Long-awaited? Didn’t he get his chance in 2007 and 2008? Funny thing is one of those chances came from a Jared Allen low hit on Schaub.
    ____________________________________
    You know you are an elite DE in the NFL when people start with this crap about you. I have never seen Allen make any illegal hit on anyone. I have seen him get fined religiously for perfectly legal hits but that comes with the territory when you are one of the best.

  19. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 6, 2009 11:31 AM

    Bob Loblaw says:
    August 6, 2009 10:53 AM
    Most likely Speilamn was just feeding positivity about all the QBs to Sid, but the Old Geezer just pulls the quotes on Sage for this column. Sid isn’t exactly known for balanced reporting.
    Not that Sage won’t end up as the starter anyways. Look, if the Bears go 9-7 with Kyle Orton last year, all Sage has to do is be just as good as Orton was. That’s an easily attainable goal. The Vikings have a better D that the aging and beat up Bears D of a year ago, better receivers, a better O-line, and as good as Matt Forte did carrying the Bears offense as a rookie, I’d take Adrian Peterson over him 100 times out of 100. In fact, Forte’s rookie season was about equivilent to what Chester Taylor did in 2006 — his only year as a starter in the NFL.
    And I’m not dissing the Bears — they area solid team who may be even better with Cutler. It’s just that the 2009 Vikings match up in every area better than the 2008 Bears team that had a winning record.
    And Mr. Dewey, the Vikings had first crack at Cutler and didn’t want him, so he didn’t slip through their fingers. The Vikings were the first team the Broncos contacted when trying to trade for Matt Cassell. The Vikings just didn’t want to give up a 1st round picks for 3 straight years (after giving up one for Jared Allen last year) for a QB who was statistically good, but has personal health issues, didn’t carry his team to victory, wasn’t a respected leader on the field, and didn’t have a very good reputation in the locker room and off the field.
    ___________________________________
    Please explain to me how “all Sage has to do is be better than Kyle Orton” makes ANY sense…
    In your delusional state, are you expcting a Sage-led Queen team to meet with Orton & the Broncos in the Super Bowl?
    You also say the Queens stack up favorably to a Bears team that “may” be better than Cutler.
    See, that’s the thing with Vikes fans–on PAPER, you guys sure do.
    But there’s a long way between the paper and the playing field, and in between are injuries, chemistry, coaching, motivation, scheduling, weather, luck/chance, perseverance, and a trillion other variables and intangibles.
    I love the misperception that the Vikes are some great powerhouse and the Bears are so lowly by comparison in all respects.
    Christ. Get over yourselves.
    Judging just from last year–the Bears were leading or tied with the Vikes up to Week 17.
    During the season, the Bears blew their share of 4th quarter leads.
    But the Vikes beat Detroit twice by a combined 6 points, including one win courtesy of perhaps the WORST pass interference call I’ve ever seen.
    Add in a win in week 17 over NY’s 3rd string, and a narrow squeak over a couple others.
    I’m not trying to revise the past–I’m just pointing out that your *perceived* dominance over the Bears in how the teams stack up is just ludicrous, when in reality the difference is about as thick as Chilly’s flowing head of hair.
    If the Bears were neck & neck with the Vikes LAST year, with Orton throwing the ball, how will they compare THIS year?
    Putting the aforementioned variables aside for a minute, it really boils to one question:
    Which team had the better off-season?
    (Go ahead now, plead your lost cause here).
    Finally, you say the Vikes “had first crack at Cutler BUT DIDN’T WANT HIM…”
    And now I suppose you didn’t *really* want Favre, either?
    You ought to take this comedy show on tour. Does the queen capacity for delusion know NO bounds?
    What’s your source on that? Or, more likely, are you just making dumb sh1t up to make yourself feel better, so you can sleep at night?
    The truth is–and (inlike your made-up sh!t) the Broncos have gone on record with this–Kyle Orton was the deciding factor.
    No other team in the Cutler sweepstakes had a QB that McDanny Boy was willing to work with.
    You can tell yourself it was about the picks, but it wasn’t.
    And you can say the Vikes didn’t want Cutler, but they DID.
    And if they didn’t, then your front office is even MORE dumb than I had given them credit for.
    God, the delusional thinking among your fanbase astounds me.
    I can empathize with Galileo, trying to convinve the ignorant masses that the sun in fact does NOT revolve around the sun.
    And the NFL universe does NOT revolve around the “dominance” of the Queens.

  20. Bob Loblaw says: Aug 6, 2009 11:51 AM

    Dewey, I would have loved to seen the look on yourface when AP ran all over the Bears D for close to 300 yards. I bet you had a vein popping out of your forehead.

  21. texasPHINSfan says: Aug 6, 2009 12:03 PM

    Childress isn’t the best, but Spielman is a downright idiot. i’m not even talking about his comments on Sage here, i’m talking about his track record.
    Remember he is the genius the Dolphins employed that traded a 2nd for Feeley. AJ Feeley. Spielman made a bunch of stupid trades and is a horrible personnel guy, and obviously not a good judge of talent.
    rosenfels isn’t bad – i liked him when he played for Miami. But Spielman is a POS who has no business making football decisions. I’d rank him right there with your old boy Millen.

  22. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 12:06 PM

    meezle says:
    August 6, 2009 11:10 AM
    Thank you jimicos, I stand somewhat corrected.
    But with regards to their rushing average, didn’t peterson have like a 60+ yard td. Keep that in perspective when talking about their rushing average. Besides that run they pretty much shut down their running game.
    The eagles had no running game all year so no need to even bring that up. Let’s say this, T-Jack didn’t lose the game but he damn sure didn’t help win it.
    Plus the eagles were just a better team period.
    ————————
    It was a 40 yarder, but that’s a good point.

  23. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 12:07 PM

    @Ragnar: You’re not exactly one to be throwing stones, fella.

  24. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 12:09 PM

    MyVersionTheTruth says:
    August 6, 2009 11:28 AM
    jimicos says :
    Long-awaited? Didn’t he get his chance in 2007 and 2008? Funny thing is one of those chances came from a Jared Allen low hit on Schaub.
    ____________________________________
    You know you are an elite DE in the NFL when people start with this crap about you. I have never seen Allen make any illegal hit on anyone. I have seen him get fined religiously for perfectly legal hits but that comes with the territory when you are one of the best.
    ———————-
    Who said it was illegal? It was a shoulder to knee hit. I said it was a low hit. Are you disputing that? If not, please remove your words from my mouth.

  25. KingDonkoPunchr says: Aug 6, 2009 12:12 PM

    Dewey Axewound
    “God, the delusional thinking among your fanbase astounds me.”
    ————————————————
    Do you honestly exclude yourself from this BOLD comment of yours.
    Everyone here has team colored goggles on. Why you continue to piss and moan about it all day long ASTOUNDS me. You really need to get a hold on life.

  26. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 6, 2009 12:23 PM

    correction, obviously: 2nd sun = earth

  27. madM100 says: Aug 6, 2009 1:12 PM

    I hope they start tarvaris. He should get one more full year to try and figure it out. That will be year 3 and if he doesnt improve his consistency this year time to move on. T-jack can make every throw at this level hes got a rocket for an arm. if he improves his awareness and gets rid of his happy feet in the pocket he could be a good NFL starting QB. Unfortunately if ifs and buts were wishes and luck the vikes would have 4 superbowls haha…im just sayin to me it looks like Rosenfels can only throw these loopy lobs that have pick 6 written all over it.

  28. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 6, 2009 1:48 PM

    KingDonkoPunchr says:
    August 6, 2009 12:12 PM
    Dewey Axewound
    “God, the delusional thinking among your fanbase astounds me.”
    ————————————————
    Do you honestly exclude yourself from this BOLD comment of yours.
    Everyone here has team colored goggles on. Why you continue to piss and moan about it all day long ASTOUNDS me. You really need to get a hold on life.
    ___________________________________
    Bias =/= delusion
    (perennial delusion, at that)

  29. RagnartheViking says: Aug 6, 2009 2:10 PM

    King, didn’t you hear? The Bears gor Cuntler!
    And, Pace and Pee On Mytitssomemore!!
    Did you also hear that Earl Bennett who didn’t catch a pass last year, is going to have a breakout season because Cuntler is there?
    0-16 Rod Marinelli is going to inspire the Bears D-line when he couldn’t even coax 1 win out of the Lions!
    Oh yeah Axehole, you keep bringing up us bearley beating the Lions, what about that 20 point loss we hung on you guys? Care to elaborate on that?
    Where are all the Bears posts? This team is such a freaking juggernaut that nobody is talking about them.
    Do your talking on the field all you want, but until you can stop ALL DAY for once, you need to STFU!

  30. Raw Deal says: Aug 6, 2009 2:23 PM

    The funny thing about reading comments is that the “media” rarely shares what the question was, just the answer to it. Then they like to pick it apart with speculation as if the person that answered it just came out with it unabaited. It makes for great ratings, but inaccurately paints players/personnel in a improper light…

  31. SpartaChris says: Aug 6, 2009 2:27 PM

    RagnartheViking says:
    August 6, 2009 10:59 AM
    Bleed, you’ll have to excuse (ignore rather) Dewey and jimicos. They, and about 15 other non Viking fans come onto every Vikings thread and piss all over everything Minnesota.
    ====================================
    Kind of like you do on all Packer related posts?
    Pot, meet kettle.

  32. SpartaChris says: Aug 6, 2009 2:41 PM

    RagnartheViking says:
    August 6, 2009 2:10 PM
    Do your talking on the field all you want, but until you can stop ALL DAY for once, you need to STFU!
    ===================================
    Pretty sure we’ve stopped him a couple of times now. Not in our last game together, but I’m pretty sure we held him in check the 3 games prior to that.

  33. jimicos says: Aug 6, 2009 9:05 PM

    Bob Loblaw says:
    August 6, 2009 11:51 AM
    Dewey, I would have loved to seen the look on yourface when AP ran all over the Bears D for close to 300 yards. I bet you had a vein popping out of your forehead.
    ————————–
    Not that I necessarily need to speak for Dewey, but… I just have to. It’s a disease. Sorry about that.
    First, 224 is not “close to 300 yards”. It’s much closer to 200 yards. Still a nice day’s work. But please leave the sixteenth-century math at the door. Perhaps you’re thinking of San Diego. He ran for 296 against them.
    Secondly, I thought no Vikings fan wanted to bring up ancient history? I know I’ve been chastised before for talking about the Packers’ 4 NFC North titles.. But this particular statistic, AP running for close to 300, is apparently a reference to 2007. Is this a green light to discuss the Packers’ 13-3 record that season? And the way they creamed the Vikings by a combined score of 57-16 in two wins?

  34. goldenparrot says: Aug 7, 2009 12:34 PM

    Need to BITE THE BULLET, call Hattiesburg, and initiate THE ITCH. If HE would show up mid pre-season we would still be better off ….

  35. PurpleRaid12 says: Aug 8, 2009 5:54 PM

    @Jimicos
    “Packers’ 13-3 record that season? And the way they creamed the Vikings by a combined score of 57-16 in two wins”…..
    Ok? and look how great you did this season. I don’t deny the Packer’s were a great team (those 4 NFC North Titles and a SB Win) but you went 6-10 this year. so what does that tell you? btw, you sign Blow Job Raji yet?

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