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Could first affidavit be tip of iceberg?

The affidavit submitted Friday by a former co-worker of the woman who is suing Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger for sexual assault represents, in our view, an eye-popping initial assault by Roethlisberger’s legal team against the lawsuit.

But we’ve got a feeling there’s more to come.  A lot more.

The affidavit, which claims not only that the plaintiff bragged about having sex with Roethlisberger but also claims that the allegation of sexual assault was fabricated as part of a premeditated attack on Harrah’s and Roethlisberger, could be the first of many pieces of evidence that will systematically demonstrate that the statements made by the plaintiff after her alleged encounter undermine the claims she now is making.

We also believe that Roethlisberger’s lawyers fully intend to demonstrate, with excruciating and crushing detail, that there is no merit to the plaintiff’s claims.

There’s also a chance that Roethlisberger and his lawyers will go even farther than merely defeating the claims, and that eventually the plaintiff and her lawyer will face direct attacks against their interests for pursuing the case in the first place.

So stay tuned.  This one could get very interesting.  Or, more accurately, more interesting than it already is.

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33 Responses to “Could first affidavit be tip of iceberg?”
  1. stiller43 says: Aug 9, 2009 12:04 PM

    Go Steelers.

  2. Jimmy says: Aug 9, 2009 12:12 PM

    I’ll say this. I’m not a fan of Ben, in fact I think he is an extremely overrated QB riding the coat tails of a very good Defense and running game (See Trent Dilfer) but it sounds like this broad was out for money! Did he bang her? probably. was it consensual? probably. Was he stupid? probably but I doubt he raped this chick. Just another woman working a dead end job that has visions of a big quick payday because she was able to open her legs for an NFL player.

  3. fellasheowed says: Aug 9, 2009 12:18 PM

    or it could just be that the “roethlisberger legal team” didn’t coordinate this particular affidavit. this is the actual defense of a named co-defendant in the case. naturally, yet hypocritically, you want to portray roethlisberger as coordinating an attack on the plaintiff. its the sizzle you are trying to sell. mean rich athlete going overboard attacking crazy woman and shyster lawyer. she named a number of defendants, each of which has a right to defend themselves.
    why not accept full and honest responsibility for promoting a nothing case for your own aggrandizement. its a shame that much like you are hoping for an itoesque mega trial where even roethlisberger’s statements to teammates become a line of attack, that the “roethlisberger legal team” cannot call you as a witness for promoting the case, and giving it attention and fabricating credibility that aides the plaintiff and lawyer in their effort to have the case procede beyond where it would be thrown out otherwise.
    sorry the defense of the other co-named denfendants touched on the fact that roethlisberger didn’t do what was alledged, but hey that wasn’t his choice. for you to portray it as roethlisberger coordinating a vindictive counter-assault is pretty disingenuous given your oft alluded to legal background.

  4. oruacat2 says: Aug 9, 2009 12:20 PM

    “Iceberg” or not, unless they have her “bragging” and scheming on voicemail, audio tape, email, or some type of recording device, it’s just one more useless “he said/she said” uncomfirmed testimony.
    Working against Roethlisberger are casino records – video tapes/time stamps that will show her going up to his room, and phone logs/time stamps that would show his repeated calls down to the front desk where she worked. Obviously neither would show what happened behind that closed door – but if everything she alleges in her accusation can be proven true up to that point, then will a jury be more or less likely to believe her story about what happened in the room?
    We all know that casinos are some of the most heavily-surveilled businesses in the country – so if the tapes/records no longer exist, then THAT IN ITSELF would add to the mystery, no? I don’t know their policy as to how long they keep their own video/phone records in-house, but I’d say that now matter how many former coworkers come forward to offer their opinions, Big Ben is in a bit of trouble. If she’s making this whole thing up, then she’s even more diabolical and clever than I originally thought.
    KD

  5. JSpicoli says: Aug 9, 2009 12:34 PM

    I don’t think it is very interesting

  6. joe6606 says: Aug 9, 2009 12:35 PM

    There’s a reason ESPN didnt report this “story” for 2 days….
    The stench of lies from this money grabbing skank is nauseating.
    Have fun getting countersued for defamation.

  7. JPeezy says: Aug 9, 2009 12:36 PM

    ANDREA MCNULTY… I only hope when Ben Roethlisberger counter-sues ANDREA MCNULTY for damages that PFT covers it as closely.
    Thankfully ESPN learned from the Duke Lacrosse and Kobe Bryant cases… Too bad PFT never did….

  8. BigBaldPapaHawk says: Aug 9, 2009 12:48 PM

    I hate big ben but IF this is all the BS that it looks like nobody deserves the type of crap that he has been accused of.
    If she is lying her ass off trying to get paid, I hope that big ben and his lawyers smear her for all it is worth.

  9. VoxVeritas says: Aug 9, 2009 12:51 PM

    guilty until proven innocent! Same treatment Cowboys players get.

  10. Silver&Black666 says: Aug 9, 2009 1:03 PM

    fellasheowed
    Your not that bright are you, or your completely ignorant to the workings of our legal system.
    “or it could just be that the “roethlisberger legal team” didn’t coordinate this particular affidavit”
    Yeah and it could also be that your mom didn’t put those presents under the tree, Santa Claus did!

  11. mborz says: Aug 9, 2009 1:08 PM

    oruacat2 said : “Iceberg” or not, unless they have her “bragging” and scheming on voicemail, audio tape, email, or some type of recording device, it’s just one more useless “he said/she said” uncomfirmed testimony.”
    How would that be any different than the plaintiff’s testimony? If Ben claims they had consensual sex, all of the stuff you listed (phone log, surveillance cams) is completely useless, and reduces the entire case to he said / she said / they said.

  12. blitzburgh1 says: Aug 9, 2009 1:18 PM

    fellasheowed says: “this is the actual defense of a named co-defendant in the case. ”
    No, it’s not. This woman IS NOT named in the case. She stepped up on her own free will to help clear Ben’s name. She did not have to get involved in any of this. She has nothing to gain by doing this. ( except maybe Steelers season tickets :) )

  13. realityonetwo says: Aug 9, 2009 1:44 PM

    Anyone who writes “your not that bright” is not very bright.

  14. oruacat2 says: Aug 9, 2009 1:46 PM

    mborz said: How would that be any different than the plaintiff’s testimony? If Ben claims they had consensual sex, all of the stuff you listed (phone log, surveillance cams) is completely useless, and reduces the entire case to he said / she said / they said.
    Exactly, and I haven’t argued differently. Any testimony/affidavits from coworkers will also be he said/she said/they said as well.
    My point is regarding the detailed nature of her allegations –
    Conversation before BR got on the elevator – surveillance cameras will show what time it happened.
    Multiple phone calls from his room down to the front desk where she was working – phone logs will show what time, duration, and how many.
    More cameras will show what time she finally went to his room, and what time she left.
    Obviously there won’t be footage of what happened inside the room.
    So now the question becomes “who will the jury believe if the first 90% of her story is verifiably true”? That’s a pretty big risk if you’re Roethlisberger, no matter how many of her coworkers sign unverifiable affadavits.
    I hope the guy is innocent and I hope she goes to jail for false accusations – but any way you slice it, he’s in a precarious position UNLESS his defense team has actual evidence proving their counter allegations, because if they don’t, they have no more credibility than she does.
    KD

  15. Vandilay Industries says: Aug 9, 2009 1:54 PM

    Vox Veritas wrote: “guilty until proven innocent! Same treatment Cowboys players get.”
    Really, Vox? The Cowboys have earned their reputation as criminals over the years, and your plasticman owner clearly hasn’t cared.
    Do us all a favor and attempt to have a clue when you post the next time around.

  16. i'm president charlie! says: Aug 9, 2009 2:21 PM

    I hope Ben’s legal team exposes and embarrasses this pig.

  17. fellasheowed says: Aug 9, 2009 2:33 PM

    silver and black, you do realize, there are other defendants in this case, even though their lives aren’t important to the likes of florio, they themselves will be presenting their own defenses as well.
    ok, stay with me here. the affidavit was filed with the change of venue request by two of the other defendants. this procedural was not filed by the roethlisberger team, nor are they necessarily aware of it. antonelli is not named in the case, as blitzburgh points out. however since a large portion of the case seems to be the plaintiff’s claim that she was not taken seriously after the alledged assault, antonelli’s affidavit goes more directly to charges of the misconduct of harrah’s employees than what is alledged against roethlisberger.

  18. Vandilay Industries says: Aug 9, 2009 2:39 PM

    Vox Veritas wrote: “guilty until proven innocent! Same treatment Cowboys players get.”
    Really, Vox? The Cowboys have earned their reputation as criminals over the years, and your plasticman owner clearly hasn’t cared.
    Do us all a favor and attempt to have a clue when you post the next time around.

  19. Markle says: Aug 9, 2009 3:09 PM

    JIMMY
    Trent Dilfer? When Rivers was on the Bench the entire 3rd QTr watching Roethlisberger complete third down pass after 3rd down pass was that trent Dilfer like? You are aware that ast 4 years , Roethlisbeger has a 121 passer rating in third down? The Defense has nothing to do with that.
    Dan Fouts
    Regular season Stats > 80% passer rating, 58% completion %, 7.7 Yards per attempt
    Post season stats > 70% passer rating, 55% completion %, 7.4 Yards per attempt
    post season Record > 3 Wins, 4 Losses
    Note: Fouts threw 5 Interceptions in the 1979 playoff game against Olilers, and also had 5
    Interceptions against the Dolphins in 1982 playoff game.
    =============================================================
    Danny Marino
    Regular season stats > 86.4% passer rating, 59% completion %, 7.3 Yards per attempt,
    Post season stats > 77.1% passer rating, 56% completion %, 6.6 Yards per attempt,
    Post season record > 8-10
    note: Look at the drop in efficiency from Marino’s regular season to his Post season. Marino
    was a great Quarterback. but he clearly did not elevate his play in the playoffs. His play
    declined sharply.
    ========================================================
    Peyton Manning
    Regular season Stats > 94.7% passer rating. 64.4% completion %, 7.7 Yards per attempt
    Post season Stats > 85% passer rating, 61% completion percentage, 7.5 yards per attempt
    post season record > 7 wins 8 losses
    Note: In Manning’s 8 playoff losses, His offense has only averaged 13 points per game. You can’t blame that work on your defense.
    ============================================================
    Terry Bradshaw
    regular season stats > 70.9 passer rating, 51.9 % completion %, 7.2 Yards per attempt
    Post season stats > 83% passer rating, 57.2% completion %, 8.4 Yards per attempt !!!!
    note: look at that elite Yard per attempt post season AVG.
    Post season rcord > 14 -5 Record
    =========================================================
    Joe Montana
    Regular season stats > 92.3% passer rating, 63.2% completion %, 7.5 Yards per attempt
    Post season Stats > 95.6% passer rating, 62.7% completion Percentage, 7.9 yards per attempt
    post season record 16 wins 7 losses
    =============================================================
    Ben Roethlisberger
    regular season stats > 89.4% passer rating, 62.4% completion %, 7.9 Yards per attempt
    Post season stats > 87.2% passer rating, 62% completion % , 8.1 yards per attempt !!!
    post season record 8-2
    =========================================================
    Note: these playoff stats include 2 games as a rookie. If you remove the two rookie playoff
    games in 2004, which is fair to do considering that none of the listed Quarterbacks other then Ben have had to play playoff games as a rookie, these would be his career post season stats.
    Post Season Stats > 93.3% passer rating, 63% completion %, 8.17 yards per attempt!
    ========================================================
    John Elway
    Regular season stats > 80% passer rating, 57% completion %, 7.1 Yards per attempt
    Post season record > 79.7% passer rating, 54% completion %, 7.6 yards per attempt
    post season record > 14 wins 8 losses
    =======================================================
    Brett Farve
    Regular Season stats > 85.4 % passer rating, 61.6% completion %, 7.0 Yards per attempt
    Post season stats > 85.2% passer rating, 60.7% completion %, 7.4 Yards per attempt
    =================================================

  20. FumbleNuts says: Aug 9, 2009 3:56 PM

    That horse-faced Bimbo is after a BIG payday.

  21. nflqb says: Aug 9, 2009 4:02 PM

    Jimmy says: August 9, 2009 12:12 PM
    now we have nitwits like jimmy saying ben is riding on the coat tails of the 30th ranked rushing attack in the nfl and a defense that melted like butter with a 2 score lead in the 4th qt of the biggest game of the yr…
    honestly where to these archair idiots come from?

  22. SixBurghDude says: Aug 9, 2009 4:11 PM

    @ Markle-
    great post, but you forgot one…Passer rating in each of the following 2 QB’s Super Bowl winning runs:
    Ben Roethlisberger…………..95.4
    TommyBoy Shady Brady…91.5
    Congrats to Vox & Jimmy… for being FOOL enough to compare a record setting QB, who’s WON an unprecedented 59 games in his 1st 5 NFL seasons (with over 30% of those, 19 to be exact, being engineered via 4th qtr. comeback), to a journeyman, albeit Super Bowl Champion, QB like Dilfer……Jimmy’s a TOOL!
    btw Vox, many if not all teams have had players who at some point have had problems of one kind or another off the field, the difference is that your Cryboys make it a practice of giving big contracts to players that were already known criminals, I guess the human facelift has no shame, afterall why would he, he hasn’t won a damned thing in nearly 2 decades…….Vox SUX!!!

  23. antneejay2 says: Aug 9, 2009 4:16 PM

    If it turns out that this was just a cash grab by Andrea Doria or whatever her name is, I hope Roethlisberger turns around and nails her ass to the wall. Maybe it will cause future scammers to think twice before rubbing their beavers in the faces of rich dudes.
    I still think Mike Tyson’s crime was stupidity. The woman hired a lawyer first, then made a play. Coincidence? Right.

  24. Hillbilly Coach says: Aug 9, 2009 4:54 PM

    Goal Stealers!
    http://www.keithwhite.us/nflqb.html

  25. skylark says: Aug 9, 2009 5:58 PM

    This affidavit was attached to a motion, filed by one of the Harrah’s defendants, to move the lawsuit to a different venue (different county). Ben’s lawyer is most certainly coordinating his defense with that of the Harrah’s employees – that would be the smart thing to do, since they’re all trying to discredit the plaintiff. And it sounds like they’re off to a very good, methodical start.
    Once the Harrah’s defendants file their answer, or during the discovery phase where documents are exchanged (if things get that far), you will see a carefully documented trail of company correspondence that will indicate that the story about the married lover and fake Iraqi solider (and kudos to the married guy’s wife – what a great way to get revenge on your husband’s girlfriend!!), and plaintiffs’ subsequent breakdown, is exactly what happened, and there will be a long history in the plaintiff’s employment file detailing numerous problems and past indiscretions. Expect to see affidavits from the wife of the married lover as well as multiple employees, current and former, of Harrah’s, who will all testify to plaintiff’s sketchy history, both personal and professional.
    I hope Ben’s attorneys file a motion to dismiss. And if that motion is granted, I hope Ben makes her pay every red cent of his attorneys’ fees, ideally by garnishing her wages so that every single day she goes to work, she is reminded of how, in her pathological desire to make *someone* pay for the fact that her life is a mess, she underestimated him and his desire to settle in order to shut her up. He could try suing her for defamation, but that’s practically impossible for a public person to do successfully. It would send a message but would ultimately cost him more in time and effort just to prove a point. Bravo to Ben for going after her with the goal of total obliteration. She has it coming.
    You can hate Ben all you want — hating someone you’ve never met and don’t know personally is really just about jealousy anyway — but even haters have to admit that this is all about a screwed-up and miserable woman’s desire for revenge. She and Ben hooked up one night, she thought it meant something, he did not, and when nothing came of it she decided to get even with him in a big way. GOOD FOR HIM for fighting.

  26. skylark says: Aug 9, 2009 6:02 PM

    This affidavit was attached to a motion, filed by one of the Harrah’s defendants, to move the lawsuit to a different venue (different county). Ben’s lawyer is most certainly coordinating his defense with that of the Harrah’s employees – that would be the smart thing to do, since they’re all trying to discredit the plaintiff. And it sounds like they’re off to a very good, methodical start.
    Once the Harrah’s defendants file their answer, or during the discovery phase where documents are exchanged (if things get that far), you will see a carefully documented trail of company correspondence that will indicate that the story about the married lover and fake Iraqi solider (and kudos to the married guy’s wife – what a great way to get revenge on your husband’s girlfriend!!), and plaintiffs’ subsequent breakdown, is exactly what happened, and there will be a long history in the plaintiff’s employment file detailing numerous problems and past indiscretions. Expect to see affidavits from the wife of the married lover as well as multiple employees, current and former, of Harrah’s, who will all testify to plaintiff’s sketchy history, both personal and professional.
    I hope Ben’s attorneys file a motion to dismiss. And if that motion is granted, I hope Ben makes her pay every red cent of his attorneys’ fees, ideally by garnishing her wages so that every single day she goes to work, she is reminded of how, in her pathological desire to make *someone* pay for the fact that her life is a mess, she underestimated him and his desire to settle in order to shut her up. He could try suing her for defamation, but that’s practically impossible for a public person to do successfully. It would send a message but would ultimately cost him more in time and effort just to prove a point. Bravo to Ben for going after her with the goal of total obliteration. She has it coming.
    You can hate Ben all you want — hating someone you’ve never met and don’t know personally is really just about jealousy anyway — but even haters have to admit that this is all about a screwed-up and miserable woman’s desire for revenge. She and Ben hooked up one night, she thought it meant something, he did not, and when nothing came of it she decided to get even with him in a big way. GOOD FOR HIM for fighting.

  27. BP says: Aug 9, 2009 6:40 PM

    Let’s see. An “employee” of the hotel being sued says the plaintiff bragged about BR bedding the her down. No big shocker there. I’ll bet a couple more “employees” will say the same thing by the end of this. That’s like a member of the wolf pack claiming the sheep wanted to be eaten.
    I’m quite sure the plaintiff will have a host of folks that can testify she told them she was raped by dumb as a f’n stump. The records of her treatment at the hospitals and what they were for will be key. I doubt her lawyer would have mentioned them in the filing if they did not favor her case.

  28. Markle says: Aug 9, 2009 7:34 PM

    just to clarify my post above. Roethlisberger has a 121 passer rating on 3rd down last 4 years in the Post season.

  29. Rocky Vegas says: Aug 9, 2009 7:44 PM

    Please! … for the sake of all of us NFL fans impatiently waiting for the kick-off of the first pre-season game…. promise to stop running stories like this tabloid crap once the season starts.
    YOU should, instead be writing about Cutler or Favre!

  30. hotchick says: Aug 9, 2009 10:08 PM

    Read the story instead of skipping over it. Then click on the comments instead of skipping over them. Then complain about the story being o the site. Its not like the headline and first sentence doesn’t make it obvious this is a topic you are not concerned about.
    Or must every story go through a “vegas will approve” filter?
    By far the silliest comments are the “I dont want to read this comments”
    And yes I do tend to ignore those comments. But this time Vegas happened to be the last one so I figured wht the heck.

  31. Theepx5 says: Aug 9, 2009 10:51 PM

    This is why things like this are so hard to take seriously. As a Steeler fan it has always been my opinion that Ben did in fact mess around with her. But as far as forcing himself on her, I never believed it. Sounds to me that she was thinking more was to come out of this encounter and it did not happen. From what I’ve heard about this woman, she is mentally unstable and that sent her the edge. Remember Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned

  32. bunbun says: Aug 10, 2009 1:22 PM

    Ben rapes the white girl. Benny boy should just admit he is the rapist, pull a mike vick, accept responsibility, do his time in PRISON and stop his wretched whining. Mr Goddell should flush Benny Boy for a couple of years for damaging the NFL name, possibly fine him. Mr. Roger Goddell should act quickly and expediantly to reign in this extermely spoiled and ignorant child/man. Goddell does not need further data to suspend Beeny Boy. I am sick and tired of people defending these slack assed, criminals who believe they have a right to be a thug, punk slime bag. Send Mr. Benny R. to the slammer now.

  33. Steelers4Life says: Aug 10, 2009 2:13 PM

    bunbun says: August 10, 2009 1:22 PM
    Ben rapes the white girl. Benny boy should just admit he is the rapist, pull a mike vick, accept responsibility, do his time in PRISON and stop his wretched whining. Mr Goddell should flush Benny Boy for a couple of years for damaging the NFL name, possibly fine him. Mr. Roger Goddell should act quickly and expediantly to reign in this extermely spoiled and ignorant child/man. Goddell does not need further data to suspend Beeny Boy. I am sick and tired of people defending these slack assed, criminals who believe they have a right to be a thug, punk slime bag. Send Mr. Benny R. to the slammer now.
    ———————————————
    Hey, maybe if you knew anything about this case, or the legal system you would know that no matter what happens with this case, Ben will not see jail time. If you want there to be a possibility of him doing jail time, then you better go back in time (like a year), and tell Andrea McNulty to go to the hospital and have a rape kit done, and then go to the police and file a criminal complaint.
    Nobody goes to jail when the plaintiff is only suing you for money in a civil case.
    Goodell needs A LOT more further data to suspend Ben. As it stands now, Andrea McNulty has no physical proof or witnesses. Ben and the 8 other defendants in the case actually have a witness (who signed an affidavit) on their side.
    Just because someone sues you for money, does not mean there was an actual crime committed.

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