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Five teams chasing Vick?

Former Bucs and Colts coach Tony Dungy dropped a strong hint regarding the future of quarterback Mike Vick during NBC’s Sunday night broadcast of the Hall of Fame game on NBC.  (Did we mention it was on NBC?)

Of Vick’s prospects to land with an NFL team, Dungy told Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth, “I think something may happen here pretty shortly.”

Dungy also said that Vick has spoken with “several” teams. 

Per a league source, the unofficial number is five.

And while it’s still easier to get Jay Glazer to dunk a basketball than it is to get anyone with knowledge of the interested teams to identify their names, we consistently have heard that some of the teams that have publicly said “no” are privately pursuing Vick.

As we see it, if a team that’s on the record as not being interested eventually signs Vick, the waffling will be the least of the franchise’s potential P.R. concerns.

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  1. tufar says: Aug 10, 2009 3:44 PM

    Maybe the Bears, and Cutler can have another diva sulk?

  2. BigBaldPapaHawk says: Aug 10, 2009 3:47 PM

    What does it say about Vick that no GM or owner wants to be open about chasing him?

  3. aj_beerzynski says: Aug 10, 2009 3:52 PM

    The 5 are the Packers & the 4 UFL teams

  4. JPeezy says: Aug 10, 2009 3:53 PM

    Ravens, Packers, Vikings, Patriots, Redskins would be my guess to the 5 teams..

  5. RedGoneWILD says: Aug 10, 2009 3:53 PM

    Didn’t Dungy give up any information at dinner?

  6. empty13 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:00 PM

    radio radio radioactive

  7. myasylum says: Aug 10, 2009 4:01 PM

    Well, I guess that leaves Green Bay out. That would mean they’d have to pay him. That’s the only reason they showed interest anyway because they figured they could get him for nothing. That’s how the GM operates over there.
    I don’t understand why anyone would want this waste anyway.

  8. Daws84 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:02 PM

    Bigbald – I think it says the GM’s/Owners are trying to get a bargain….

  9. superfan99 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:02 PM

    @BigBaldPapaHawk
    If teams are open about chasing Vick, then his price tag goes way up. If nobody wants him, he’ll be easier to sign.

  10. Kenny Vendetta says: Aug 10, 2009 4:03 PM

    Gamesmanship at its finest. I think some that post here refuse to look at Mike Vick as a player and focus on his horrific off the field previous lifestyle.
    NFL franchises are businesses. Their goal is to make money!! The easiest was to make money is to win more games. If Mike Vick can help a team win more games then off course he will be signed.
    By aligning yourself against Vick as a “person” you are aligning yourself with PETA…

  11. brick says: Aug 10, 2009 4:04 PM

    Well the UFL has 4 teams, does someone in Canada think they can get him a visa?

  12. KILLER FIN says: Aug 10, 2009 4:05 PM

    49ERS OR BRONCOWS NEED HIM, BUT WILL THEY PULL THE TRIGGER???

  13. Enrgy2Burn says: Aug 10, 2009 4:06 PM

    Do you think that if the Browns sign him he will be distracted with thoughts of torturing and killing everyone in the Dawg Pound if they fail to kill each other?

  14. Samuel L. Bronkowitz says: Aug 10, 2009 4:07 PM

    Is it even possible that there’s some “orchestration” going on behind the scenes? Dungy and Godell playing footsie with some team owners in an attempt to show the complete rehabilitation of this idiot while at the same time keeping publicity whores Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton off their collective backs?
    I really can’t see why anyone would want him from a football perspective. Certainly there are younger men with less baggage that can run fast and throw the ball as well as him.

  15. SpartaChris says: Aug 10, 2009 4:09 PM

    You’d think the interested teams would speak up and start getting the PR hit out of the way now so it’s not a total shock when (if) he gets signed.
    That said, I think you can add the Eagles to the list for Vick. According to Adam Schefter, the Eagles just inked an Arena League guy named Matt Nagy to serve in a back up QB position.

  16. empty13 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:11 PM

    5 teams, eh?
    1st place in the vick derby = 1st to say no
    2nd place – 2nd to say no
    3rd place – 3rd to say no
    4th place – 4th to say no
    5th place (last) – said yes

  17. EnforcerSU says: Aug 10, 2009 4:16 PM

    After last night’s preseason game, the Titans should get Vick NOW.

  18. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Aug 10, 2009 4:20 PM

    He’ll wind up in Pittsburgh. Steeler fans don’t care if he killed dogs, or if he can even read.

  19. zuke says: Aug 10, 2009 4:21 PM

    it doesn’t say much about vick. GMs and owners are never open about anything. and why would they want to do anything that could potentially give vick any sort of leverage in negotiating? says more about the nfl, but it’s still nothing too shocking

  20. creelington says: Aug 10, 2009 4:26 PM

    It says GM’s are nervous about how PETA will react, which is crazy. Did anyone get the memo? It was a bunch of dogs he killed….not humans. Ok? Did you get that? Im going to repeat it. It was dogs, people….Im not saying it’s cool to kill dogs but 2 years in jail is WAY too much time for that. He should’ve gotten probation. Bottom line, and peta should get my private area in the mouth….get it?
    Anyways, get over yourselves haters. Dogs are……………….guess what………….just dogs…….they get hit by cars everyday, get eaten by people who go to chinese restaurants every day, killed by hunters when the dog wont run anymore every day, starve to death every day. Its a bad deal dogs get, but thats life. Get over it. You guys should be outraged at how stallworth got 26 days for running a guy over and killing him while drunk and high, not hating on man who killed some flea bags….Get your priorities straight people.

  21. Raiders757 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:27 PM

    I used to respect Tony Dungy, but the more he spews on about this convicted felon, the more I realize that he is no better than Jesse Jackson. He doesn’t care at what cost, or impact, putting a thug/felon in a place of influence has on our youth or society. All he cares about is keeping himself in the news.
    Getting Vick back in the NFl shouldn’t be an honest man’s priority right now. Getting Vick back on his feet and getting him a job in society should be his first concern. Proving that he is truly reformed and sorry for what he’s done, should be the next.
    Goodell is even being a coward now, by getting in on this. The NFL is going down a slippery slope. It’s time to get criminals out of the league, and a good time to start, is now. Praising Vick and blowing a bunch of smoke up everyone’s ass isn’t going to get this done. claiming Vick has shown remorse, is a lie. He damn sure hasn’t shown in public here in his home town. He still runs with the same crowd. He hasn’t learned a damn thing.
    Sadly I’m starting to feel sorry for Vick now, because all the buzzards are circling, trying to benefit from his corpse laid out on the side of the highway. They want to bring it back to life with lies and deception, so they can drain as much cash as they can from it.

  22. mrf47 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:43 PM

    The UFL is already looking to add an expansion team? That’s great.

  23. Raiders757 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:47 PM

    Why are my posts being censored out? I said nothing wrong or derogatory. Just the truth. This site needs to fix the comments section badly. Only one in five ever show the hell up.
    Like I said in my post that didn’t show up. Tony Dungy is quickly losing my respect. He is no better than Jesse Jackson spewing his nonsense. They’re like vultures, tying to get their name in the news while feasting on whats left of the corpse of Vick’s career.
    If they were really trying to help Vick, they would be trying to help him get his non-football life in order first. Vick needs to realize that he just may end up having to live like the rest of the felons in our country, or as least like the rest of us.
    Even worse, is that now Goodell is kissing his butt. someone has to be pulling a racist card on him behind the scenes. Goodell’s recent comments make him look weak. I thought he was trying to rid the league of the criminal element and thug culture that has infested it. now is the time to start, but his backpedaling makes him look like a coward.

  24. The Others says: Aug 10, 2009 4:48 PM

    Washington, Green Bay, or SF will get Vick

  25. rcwillis1 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:48 PM

    People in Denver bashing Cutler seem to have forgotten their beloved Elway did pretty much the same thing. Vick should be a fit for the Rams or Cleveland where the dog pound reigns supreme.

  26. mkgdoyle says: Aug 10, 2009 4:50 PM

    Why does everyone complain about mike Vic. Yes he killed dogs, its bad, but some of the NFL players get drunk and kill people, but I don’t see anyone complaining over that.
    Its just a sport, obviously the ownership or Commissioner are worried about the DUII charges compared to killing animals.

  27. Raiders757 says: Aug 10, 2009 4:54 PM

    @ Kenny Vendetta
    I see what your saying, but that last part is just stupid.
    People should hold others accountable for what they do. I am not one of the owners, so the making money aspect is null and void with me. I damn sure don’t line up with PETA either. i am nothing more than a concerned citizen that hates scum, and thinks that examples should start being made of them. If a business wants to use scum to make more money, it’s a big risk, because I for one, will not spend my money on that business. A smart business will realize this, and refuse to employ someone who may possibly ruin their image towards the consumer. Goodells recent spew just took the NFL’s image down a notch. If a team hires this felon, they’ll be is a world of shit. There are more out there against, than there are for Vick. the vick fans and their low morals need to realize this.

  28. roofles says: Aug 10, 2009 4:56 PM

    i just dont get why dungy is all on vick’s jock. lets say (and this will happen) vick gets a second (third?) chance in the NFL, he comes back and then like the dumba$$ he is, gets busted for weed possession, fails a drug test, etc.
    who then looks like the jacka$$, vick or dungy? people know vick is going to screw it up and tony d is sure sacrificing a lot just so vick can come back and play RB.

  29. Agame says: Aug 10, 2009 4:58 PM

    Do half of you people even watch football? If you are that CRAZY to believe that NO NFL team is chasing Vick you need to start watching that “other” type of football.
    Vick is simply too good of a player for NO NFL team to pick him up.
    And don’t talk to me about some bullcrap PR nightmare. These owners are concerned with one thing…money. You mean to tell me a team is going to lose money signing Vick? The fact of the matter PETA could give two cent about the NFL. Television knows that the first game Vick suits up for are going to have ratings that go through the roof. I laugh at some of you people talking about you would boycott your team if they signed Vick. Yeah right. The truth is all your going to do is what you do every Sunday and that’s watch football. Why, because you love this sport too much to miss any part of it. You’ll drink your beer and scream at the TV or at the game and forget all about Vick. Trust me, by week 12 no one will care about what Vick did cause they’ll be too busy routing for him or against. We are NFL fans. I mean really….

  30. Jim says: Aug 10, 2009 5:01 PM

    It seems amazing to me that these posts from “sports fans” are missing basic football analysis, except Kenny and a couple others. Lets face it, as a season drags on starting quarterbacks start dropping like flies and if your backup is not capable of getting you to the playoffs, you are out of it. Whether you like the guy or not he is experienced, has some talent, and is cheap insurance. Plus he has done his time and unless you are a pedophile, isn’t that our system supposed to allow you to start again?

  31. EskinSux says: Aug 10, 2009 5:01 PM

    Tony Dungy seems to be coming across as a political strategist campaigning for a candidate….No matter how flawed the candidate is, it’s in your best interest to vote for him cause i’m being paid to spread rhetoric…

  32. meezle says: Aug 10, 2009 5:10 PM

    The eagles are good, no thanks for vick although we do wish him well.
    It doesn’t matter who’s the backup qb, if McNabb goes down, seasons over.
    Send him to Dallas no one gives a rats ass about them

  33. BigBaldPapaHawk says: Aug 10, 2009 5:13 PM

    Ah. I was not considering playing the market when I made my comment.

  34. Massappeal says: Aug 10, 2009 5:16 PM

    I still think that he is better off in a NFL city that has a low dog population.

  35. Dewey Axewound says: Aug 10, 2009 5:23 PM

    Nope, unlike the Queens, the Bears don’t NEED a QB.
    And, unlike the L.A. Dikes, they actually CONSIDER character before signing a player.
    But you can add this scumbag to your current options of Turd and Herb, to make it a perfect trifecta of suckiness, though.
    Or maybe having Favre pull out on you and leaving his man-mess behind for you to clean off your gaping, waiting, baby-bird faces wasn’t embarrassment enough?

  36. Teedoff says: Aug 10, 2009 5:27 PM

    Man ya’ll are brutal. He did his time, now let him get on with his life/career with a clean slate. If he messes this chance up then good riddance.

  37. Annuvin says: Aug 10, 2009 5:42 PM

    Man ya’ll are brutal. He did his time, now let him get on with his life/career with a clean slate.
    ============================
    Sure thing. He can start his career with “may I take your order, please?” and end with “do you want fries with that?”
    To all you Vick apologists who think this douchebag deserves another chance in the NFL, please answer this:
    If Jeff Skilling or Bernie Madoff were paroled tomorrow, would you be so quick to publically demand they be given a second chace as CEO of a financial institution or chairman of NASDAQ because they “paid their debt to society” and that they should be allowed to “get on with their life/career with a clean slate?”

  38. tv says: Aug 10, 2009 5:56 PM

    He should be allowed to earn a living commensurate with his talent.
    For that reason I could recommend him to my local garbage company as a replacement sanitary engineer.

  39. penguininbondage says: Aug 10, 2009 6:00 PM

    If Dungy spent this much time with his own kid he wouldn’t have Darwinated himself.

  40. timegambit says: Aug 10, 2009 6:00 PM

    He isn’t any good anyhow.
    They boiled down the offense to a 3rd grade level in Atlanta and Vick still couldn’t figure it out.
    Maybe as a reciever or a special situation like the wildcat, but he is just not worth the trouble.
    By the way, what he did wasn’t a bad decision or an act of rage..He organized and ran a dog fighting circuit. That has to run deep in one’s veins.

  41. gonzolo4 says: Aug 10, 2009 6:03 PM

    Ravens, Packers, Vikings, Patriots, Redskins would be my guess to the 5 teams..
    I agree with Jpeazy, except for the Packers,
    I would guess the Bucs are interested.

  42. FumbleNuts says: Aug 10, 2009 6:04 PM

    Maybe when Vick gets signed by a team, then right before the game starts. They can turn the entire parking lot into a Royal Rumble ring, PETA protesters VS. NFL die hard fans.

  43. Lu3562 says: Aug 10, 2009 6:06 PM

    It says GM’s are nervous about how PETA will react, which is crazy. Did anyone get the memo? It was a bunch of dogs he killed….not humans. Ok? Did you get that? Im going to repeat it. It was dogs, people….Im not saying it’s cool to kill dogs but 2 years in jail is WAY too much time for that. He should’ve gotten probation. Bottom line, and peta should get my private area in the mouth….get it
    Bottom line, creelington, is that millions of people – including players who would have to protect Michael Vick – love their dogs and they will not support a team through merchandise sales or ticket sales that hires an animal killer. Nor will they patronize that team’s advertisers. The fan base will go away. Who knows, the players may go away. I am disgusted that people like Ray Lewis are allowed to play; as for Stallworth we will see. Seven years, creelington, Vick maliciously bashed, drowned, electrocuted, and hung dogs. Innocent dogs. People will not get the images out of their heads forever. Animal abuse leads to abuse of children, women, etc… or haven’t you heard? He bank rolled the deaths and maiming of innocent dogs for the sport of gambling. Do you have no moral conscience?

  44. JaggedMark says: Aug 10, 2009 6:08 PM

    It’s the Jaguars inside on the rail, here come the Redskins on the outside, Jaguars….Redskins………and it’s the Redskins by a nose.
    Book it and lock it up.

  45. JimmySmith says: Aug 10, 2009 6:10 PM

    I hope Dungy is dead wrong, I hope all 31 professional football teams and the MN Vikings say no.

  46. MaineMan says: Aug 10, 2009 6:15 PM

    The key question for owners/coaches is, “Can Vick help the team win more games?”
    Vick was a great athlete (was, meaning it’s obviously hard to say how close he is to playing shape now), but I never thought Vick was a great QB. He had a very specific style that won a few games, but Atlanta had a lot of talent that was underutilized during Vick’s tenure for exactly that reason.
    Anyway, Vick’s style and skill set don’t fit the Pats’ system and probably wouldn’t help them win anything more. That makes the Pats kinda doubtful as a destination. Actually, the whole AFC East seems unlikely. And McDaniels’ version of the Pats’ system probably rules out Denver as well.
    Oakland, maybe, because “Mr. Davis” is a rebel. Demented now, but still a rebel.
    TEN could pick up Vick to see if he can school VY.
    JAX, maybe, to backup Garrard (not a huge style shift there).
    The Browns, maybe, because they could use the spark. Cinci, maybe, because they really need more guys who can run the ball and juice things up.
    Can’t see him fitting in anywhere in the NFC West.
    Washington is possible because Snyder is a douche who’s treated Campbell very poorly.
    Tampa, maybe, again for the spark.
    The NFC North is probably out, too.
    Vick could actually accomplish something in/for DET, but the Fords might worry about how it would reflect on the car company. He doesn’t really fit in Minny or GB and I doubt the Bears would want Cutler in a sulk, again.
    So, anyway, there’s SEVEN teams where he might be able to contribute something of value (or, at least, the owners/coaches might see it that way).

  47. zangy says: Aug 10, 2009 6:18 PM

    @annuvin
    Running a financial institution and being a running QB are two completely different things. Don’t compare apples to cornflakes, dumbass.
    @creelington
    HE DIDN”T GO TO JAIL FOR KILLING DOGS, HE WENT TO JAIL FOR FINANCING A INTERSTATE GAMBLING OPERATION (but I do agree with you wholeheartedly that people need to back the f*ck off)
    I’m a lifelong packer and a life long dog lover. Bring him into the fold, there will be no controversy over a QB competition and he will at least give us an opportunity to win if A Rod goes down.

  48. Silver&Black666 says: Aug 10, 2009 6:18 PM

    Yeah Give Scott Peterson a second chance he has been on death row at San Quentin now for almost 6 years, he has paid his debt to society.
    If I needed a fertilizer sales man and Scott Peterson was out on parole I would consider hiring him.
    How about Charlie Manson he has been locked up 20 some years, I say he has paid his debt let him write songs with Paul McCartney.
    Some people love their animals more than humans.

  49. Kidekk says: Aug 10, 2009 6:25 PM

    Annuvin says:
    August 10, 2009 5:42 PM
    Man ya’ll are brutal. He did his time, now let him get on with his life/career with a clean slate.
    ============================
    Sure thing. He can start his career with “may I take your order, please?” and end with “do you want fries with that?”
    To all you Vick apologists who think this douchebag deserves another chance in the NFL, please answer this:
    If Jeff Skilling or Bernie Madoff were paroled tomorrow, would you be so quick to publically demand they be given a second chace as CEO of a financial institution or chairman of NASDAQ because they “paid their debt to society” and that they should be allowed to “get on with their life/career with a clean slate?”
    ————————
    Your logic makes no sense. Mike Vick is not applying to be president of the humane society, staff at a dog shelter, or a dog sitter. He’s playing football. Your example is clearly stating that Mike Vick shouldn’t have anything to do with the care of dogs (as Madoff and Skilling crimes were related to what they did professionally). As a rational being, I can see that what he did was atrocious, but at the same time I can also acknowledge his talent and that his playing of football is not an effort to re-instill trust for his ability to play QB in the NFL as the only trust that was lost had to do with his handling of canines. And the only trust that he is trying to gain is that he won’t jeopardize his oppurtunity by getting in trouble again.
    And before you go and claim Florio’s quip about him supposedly throwing the last 8 games of two seasons because of his stats (a claim which could also be brought up about Eli Manning in two consecutive seasons), stats don’t tell the whole picture. Until Florio goes and reviews the game tape for every game those seasons with a highly regarded scout and can point out every instance with absolute certainty where Vick legitimately did something intentionally bad, it’s all pontification. The boxscore doesn’t tell the whole story of the game. It’s more like watching only the climactical scenes of a movie without any background knowledge.

  50. famucancer says: Aug 10, 2009 6:27 PM

    Annuvin, Why does it matter asking anyone on this forum if Vick deserves another chance? Clearly the decision has been made by who actually gets to make it. Where have you been the last 2 weeks? lol

  51. Greg says: Aug 10, 2009 6:32 PM

    Vick may have done his time, but he does not deserve to be in the NFL. If the avarage Joe did what he did, how many of you people would welcome him to be the face of your company?
    Good Job Meezle! Your meezle mind is incorrect. The Cowboys are still the top selling team in the NFL.

  52. december says: Aug 10, 2009 6:37 PM

    @Agame:
    “Vick is simply too good of a player for NO NFL team to pick him up.”
    In his prime, Vick WAS a slightly better than average QB at best. You over-rate him. He’s not that good. What he does have working for him is HYPE and controversy which definitely translates into tv ratings which you are right about. I pretty much agree with the rest of your post though.

  53. reader117 says: Aug 10, 2009 6:40 PM

    It’s not about the dogs. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he ran a gambling operation too? A big no-no right? Just ask Pete Rose.

  54. GoBears84 says: Aug 10, 2009 6:44 PM

    bengals would take anybody. they’ll eventually end up with all the character-unworthy players that chicago refuses to employ, such as tank and benson. Patriots would probably have him, and obviously vikings (hopefully, i hate the bastard), or the ‘skins who are in dire need of a quarterback… or maybe a fire lit underneath the rear-ends of T-jack and Campbell….anybody consider the Texans? i dont see greenbay picking him up, and the ravens have troy smith already. maybe the jags.

  55. Kidekk says: Aug 10, 2009 6:59 PM

    reader117, Pete Rose bet on baseball games that he managed. That’s a lot different than betting on dogs. Unless one of them was Air Bud.

  56. titan4life14 says: Aug 10, 2009 7:07 PM

    he is not going to end up on the titans or the steelers he is going to end up on the dolphins. he would fit in perfectly with the wildcat offense.anyway they need a decent quarterback that can do every thing in the wildcat.he could be a new time slash.the only thing he has to work on is his hands.

  57. VonClausewitz says: Aug 10, 2009 7:10 PM

    Nobody seems to mention Zona. They’ve got an aging QB who could be relieved for spells by a younger completely different threat. They’ve got 2 great receivers who could probably find a way to catch Vick’s wayward throws. And they’ve got a cheap ass owner who would jump on the bargain.

  58. titan4life14 says: Aug 10, 2009 7:16 PM

    He is going to the dolphins because he would fit perfect in the wild cat.I know they just got pat white but they still need a guy they still need a guy who has proved himself in the nfl~~~~

  59. Raiders757 says: Aug 10, 2009 7:22 PM

    @ Agame
    If he wasn’t a PR nightmare, he would have been signed by now.
    If his talents were so awesome, he would have been signed by now.
    The facts remain. His game fell off before becoming a convicted felon. He’s been out of the game for two years, and a majority of the public do not wish for him to play again. In a league that wishes to make money, hiring convicted felons is not a good idea. Of course, what does it matter, if you want to be like the NBA, and only appeal to the ghetto culture of America?

  60. sonic colonic says: Aug 10, 2009 7:22 PM

    Poo Flinging Monkey says: August 10, 2009 4:20 PM
    He’ll wind up in Pittsburgh. Steeler fans don’t care if he killed dogs, or if he can even read.
    very eloquent observation from someone with the name “poo flinging monkey”

  61. Raiders757 says: Aug 10, 2009 7:41 PM

    @ Silver&Black666
    What you and many other realize, is that this isn’t about the animals. It’s about taking a stand. We’re tired of ghetto culture ruling society and being an influence on our children. We’re tired of the revolving door justice system that our government nad our liberal society has taken with thugs and scum. No lesson is being learned. no lesson is being taught to anyone. A line has to be drawn somewhere, and now is the time to draw it.
    I live in Vick’s home town, and it’s becoming out of control. young kids are doing terrible things, and they look up to people like Vick, and feel he’s dne no wrong. Honoring him with another professial contract will do nothing but continue the terrible cycle were stuck in. There somes a time where an example must be made, and that example need to carry on with everyone until the end of time.

  62. Annuvin says: Aug 10, 2009 7:57 PM

    Kidkk wrote:
    Your logic makes no sense.
    =======================
    It doesn’t? Michael Vick was never convicted for torturing dogs (a common misconception among his apologists). Michael Vick was indicted and eventually confessed to violating federal statutes by running an illicit interstate gambling ring, along with running an interstate dogfighting ring. As part of his plea deal (to avoid being charged under the Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) Vick gave an allocution where he confessed to torturing the 8 dogs to death, and consistantly lying about his involvement in this criminal enterprise until it became obvious he was looking at serious time because of it.
    Now we have Mike Vick out of the clink and bankrupt with millions of dollars of debt hanging over his head. Do you really think it is a great idea to place someone who is morally bankrupt as he is and owing that kind of money in a position where he could easily have one of his ghetto homeys bet against whatever team signs him so he can throw the game and make a killing in the process? If you need further clarification as to how this is similar to the example I provided, consider what you assume would happen if you paroled Bernie Madoff tomorrow and put him in charge of the NYSE. After all, everyone deserves a second chance, right?
    Mike Vick does not belong in the NFL. Not because he is a sadistic sociopathic nutjob who takes pleasure in torturing animals to death, but because has shown by his actions that he lacks the basic moral compass that would tell him that betting against his own team would be a bad idea. The organized criminal enterprise Vick both bankrolled and personally ran was ongoing for at least six years, and only stopped because he got caught. Had he not been caught, he would still be making money by both fighting dogs and betting on dogfights top this day. It was not a mistake that caused Mike Vick to fall into this lifestyle – it is simply who he is.

  63. darth_vincent says: Aug 10, 2009 8:18 PM

    I’d rather take Brett Favre back then have Vick join the Packers…

  64. BigBear says: Aug 10, 2009 8:23 PM

    Says enough that no team will allow their name to be mentioned in pursuit. Be funny if a team that previously said no gets him.
    http://www.smackmyvickup.com

  65. Kidekk says: Aug 10, 2009 8:41 PM

    Annuvin, your logic still makes no sense. What Mike Vick did was off of the football field and just looking at the facts, there is nothing that he did on the football field that proves he can’t play QB. Whatever you think his skill level might be is irrelevant because you’re not in a position to make those decisions and there (supposedly) is some interest. To compare him to people who broke the rules and regulations in their everyday workplace to someone who ran something in his spare time, away from the work place with no direct connection to his work place, is illogical.
    Bernie Madoff couldn’t be trusted to work for the NYSE because it’s been shown that he cannot be trusted to handle funds. Mike Vick can play football because the only thing he has shown is that he gambles illegally, and can’t be trusted with dogs. You keep on pushing your example of Madoff working at the NYSE when it is not the same as Vick playing QB. Until there’s proof that he bet on games, it’s all speculation. That speculation could be made about any player who gambles because what is to say they don’t have the propensity to gamble on football?
    I never said he made a mistake, and I’m of the belief that he’s only sorry that he got caught as well. But, I think the fact that you carry such venom for the guy is clouding your rational judgment. For the last time, Mike Vick playing football is not the same as Bernie Madoff running a financial institution. Bernie Madoff has shown that he cannot be trusted to run a financial institution legitimately, while Vick has shown he can’t own dogs and take care of them properly (gambling/dogfighting). Nothing ever came out about him betting on games, and until it does, he’s about as likely to bet on football games as any other player who gambles. He is more likely to bet on dogfights, however. Your trying to compare apples to iguanas.

  66. Kidekk says: Aug 10, 2009 9:08 PM

    Annuvin, the proper athlete to use for your comparison would be Pete Rose. He bet on baseball games that he managed (supposedly always on his team) and other games as well. Pete Rose is like Bernie Madoff in that he can’t be trusted to return to his job because the crime/action he committed was in the confines of his job and could directly affect it. Mike Vick ran a gambling ring that had nothing to do with football, and fought dogs. I’m not minimizing what he did, just stating fact.
    And, once again, if you want to say that he is more likely to throw games than other players that gamble (and to what the extent of their gambling remains unknown, a la Vick), a lot of players should not be in the NFL, according to your logic. Especially ones that have committed any offense, because whose to say that Bryant McKinnie (who bashed a man’s skull with a pole), isn’t more sadistic than Mike Vick as his actions were against another human being (I don’t know about you, but I’m more worried about the guy who has no regard for human life than the guy who kills dogs and bets on them). What about Jared Allen? If someone can be arrested for DUIs multiple times, what regard does he have for human life? If we want to go on the “potential” to do something, a lot of star players (and players in general) wouldn’t be in the league, and if the teams are comfortable hiring these guys, then that’s their prerogative. I’m pretty sure more goes into their decision making process than your misfangled comparison to Bernie Madoff and the Enron guy. Shoot, Martha Stewart is still successful after going in the clink. Her face is still on TV after her swindling. Albeit, it’s her own company, I’m sure a lot of her investors stayed by her side or returned to her side after she got out, and she still does the morning/night show rounds.

  67. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Aug 10, 2009 9:18 PM

    Madoff stole money – is he a scumbag? YES
    Vick’s crimes are of serial killer origin, murderous & creepy. Explain inflicting as much pain as possible against a creature that doesn’t have the ability to do anything about that.
    Vick intentionally & with his own hands, strangled, tortured, electrocuted, beat, drowned non-violent animals. For no other reason but to hear them scream & cry in agony & then to DO IT AGAIN?? AND AGAIN??
    MICK VICK DIDN’T MADE “ONE MISTAKE” LIKE TONY DUNGY (who I have lost every shred of respect for) WOULD LIKE EVERYONE TO BELIEVE – THIS WAS A WAY OF LIFE, SOMETHING HE DID ALL THE TIME. TORTURED ANIMALS CONTUNOUSLY! Vick deserves to go cut grass, work in Mc Donald’s. I have never seen more posts defending a sadistic cruel sub-human slug before. He is the lowest form of life, picking on, torturing & serial killing defenseless creatures for entertainment.

  68. meezle says: Aug 10, 2009 9:25 PM

    Greg that was funny, using my name to describe my ming.
    How clever!

  69. Kidekk says: Aug 10, 2009 9:25 PM

    @Annuvin
    Jeez, I’m writing too much.
    How do you know he lacks the basic moral compass to not bet against his own team? You make it sound like Mike Vick was a one man crime wave: raping, breaking and entering, stealing, assaulting random strangers, and the lot without any regard for life in general. The guy could obviously function in society as a normal person as a lot of people didn’t know about his dogfighting ring before it came out. All that can be said is that he doesn’t give a damn about dogs, fans that boo, or airport security checks. He has some semblance of right from wrong. Hunters can go and put bullets in the bodies of deer, yet, they still know right from wrong. While it’s easy to use one action to make an inference about something, inferring is just making intangible conclusions.

  70. creelington says: Aug 10, 2009 9:36 PM

    Bottom line, creelington, is that millions of people – including players who would have to protect Michael Vick – love their dogs and they will not support a team through merchandise sales or ticket sales that hires an animal killer. Nor will they patronize that team’s advertisers. The fan base will go away. Who knows, the players may go away. I am disgusted that people like Ray Lewis are allowed to play; as for Stallworth we will see. Seven years, creelington, Vick maliciously bashed, drowned, electrocuted, and hung dogs. Innocent dogs. People will not get the images out of their heads forever. Animal abuse leads to abuse of children, women, etc… or haven’t you heard? He bank rolled the deaths and maiming of innocent dogs for the sport of gambling. Do you have no moral conscience?
    _____________________________________Do ya think smart guy?______________
    You need to quit your job at PETA, quit hugging that tree your hugging and come out of the woods pal. If you think a fan base would go away if the ownership signed mike vick you’re living in fantasy land. I mean, are you DRUNK?? do really believe that? Put the crackpipe down and take a step back…Because reality is this-
    Mike vicks first TD of the season is the LEAD ON SPORTSCENTER. FACT. That stadium will be packed to the guilds with fans wearing NEW mike vick jersys en-mass, all buying tickets, beers, and other team merchandise. On top of that, fans of other teams will be watching mike on TV. Mike vick will cause a PR hit, I dont deny that, but it wont be as bad as what you peta employees hope. No where even close, sorry to burst your bubble….
    Understand this, a football players loyalties lie with his teamates, are you actually ignorant enough to believe that an offensice lineman would miss a block on purpose cuz mike vick killed a flea bag? You make yourself sound like a moron when you post that drivel.
    To say that mike vick should be banned becuase people who abuse animals abuse women and children too( i guess thats the point you were trying to make) is the low point of your post. Your grabbing at straws now, just hoping to make some kind of case, it’s embarrasing really.
    As for moral conscience, I have morals, and COMMON SENSE. In reality, what he did is nowhere near as bad what leonard little did, stallworth did, ray lewis did, pacman jones did. Bottom line, and all those guys are playing /allowed to play in the league now except for stallworth, who will be back next season. If you cant see how killing someone in a drunk driving accident is worse than killing dogs, if you cant see how having a member of your crew shoot and paralyze a person is worse than killing dogs, if you cant see how ray lewis even being involved with the guys that killed a person in a fight is worse than killing dogs than you, sir, are retarted. Literly. Your brain doesnt work. You souldnt be allowed to have internet or a PC, much less an opinion. If lewis, little and pac man are allowed to play then there is no question mike should be allowed to play. The commish of the NFL agrees with me, all of america pretty much agrees with me. You and the other PETA employees are an annoyance that 99 percent of america wishes would go away. Dont get me wrong, i dont hate dogs, i do however hate idiots who think an animals rights are greater than that of a humans though. Cant stand an idiot, and every chance i get to educate one of you morons, i enjoy every key stroke. That noise you just heard was the bell ringing, class is now over, run along now you little peta tree hugger you….you funny little guy you….

  71. Harry Snutts says: Aug 10, 2009 9:43 PM

    @annuvin
    Here’s hoping Bern Madoff gets out of the joint early and suits up for the Broncos.

  72. budini says: Aug 10, 2009 10:08 PM

    You know I’m a big football fan, Just LOVE
    the Oakland Raiders win or loose. If they
    signed M.V. today,I would still love them.So why
    don’t all you holier than thou people take a flying leap. If you hate M.V. that much don’t
    watch him play,if your team signs him, get you another team. (If you can) To lower a human being, in order to elevate yourself,is most disgusting.

  73. UFL says: Aug 10, 2009 10:24 PM

    To say that mike vick should be banned becuase people who abuse animals abuse women and children too( i guess thats the point you were trying to make) is the low point of your post. Your grabbing at straws now, just hoping to make some kind of case, it’s embarrasing really.
    As for moral conscience, I have morals, and COMMON SENSE. In reality, what he did is nowhere near as bad what leonard little did, stallworth did, ray lewis did, pacman jones did. Bottom line, and all those guys are playing /allowed to play in the league now except for stallworth, who will be back next season. If you cant see how killing someone in a drunk driving accident is worse than killing dogs, if you cant see how having a member of your crew shoot and paralyze a person is worse than killing dogs, if you cant see how ray lewis even being involved with the guys that killed a person in a fight is worse than killing dogs than you, sir, are retarted. Literly. Your brain doesnt work. You souldnt be allowed to have internet or a PC, much less an opinion. If lewis, little and pac man are allowed to play then there is no question mike should be allowed to play. The commish of the NFL agrees with me, all of america pretty much agrees with me. You and the other PETA employees are an annoyance that 99 percent of america wishes would go away. Dont get me wrong, i dont hate dogs, i do however hate idiots who think an animals rights are greater than that of a humans though. Cant stand an idiot, and every chance i get to educate one of you morons, i enjoy every key stroke. That noise you just heard was the bell ringing, class is now over, run along now you little peta tree hugger you….you funny little guy you….
    You are completely delusional.
    Nobody is saying Animals are above people.
    NFL PLAYERS who murder and abuse people should be banned from the NFL as well.
    Animals feel pain and suffering. What does this have to do with a tree?
    I am not a member of PETA, do you have to be a member of PETA to love and care about animals?
    Do I have to part of the Republican Party or Democrat to love animals?
    You have never owned or loved a pet???

  74. lgwelsh1 says: Aug 10, 2009 10:58 PM

    Seriously is PETA paying people to post all over the net saying what a horrible human being Mike Vick is? LOL
    He paid his debt to society and is a free man now. It’s overwith. He should have a second chance and guess what? He will get one. Oh yes he will get signed and play in the NFL again.
    And to all the PETA wack jobs out there, who cares what you think.

  75. SpartaChris says: Aug 11, 2009 12:37 AM

    lgwelsh1 says:
    August 10, 2009 10:58 PM
    Seriously is PETA paying people to post all over the net saying what a horrible human being Mike Vick is? LOL
    He paid his debt to society and is a free man now. It’s overwith. He should have a second chance and guess what? He will get one. Oh yes he will get signed and play in the NFL again.
    And to all the PETA wack jobs out there, who cares what you think.
    =======================================
    Not everyone who opposes Vick is a PETA supporter. In fact, I find their methods quite disturbing. I liken them to domestic terrorists, just without the suicide bombers. Some of the shit they pull is downright disgusting.
    That said, I think Mike Vick is a disgusting human being. I don’t care that he served time in prison, nothing will ever be able to change the horrendous nature of the atrocities he committed.
    That doesn’t mean I don’t think the guy is entitled to earn a living. I just don’t think he belongs in the NFL.

  76. 610eskin says: Aug 11, 2009 2:19 AM

    who cares about vick hes a bad qb anyway

  77. tigerlover says: Aug 11, 2009 3:18 AM

    posted by “creelington”:
    To say that mike vick should be banned because people who abuse animals abuse women and children too ( I guess thats the point you were trying to make) is the low point of your post. Your grabbing at straws now, just hoping to make some kind of case, it’s embarrassing really.
    As for moral conscience, I have morals, and COMMON SENSE. In reality, what he did is nowhere near as bad what leonard little did, Stallworth did, ray lewis did, pacman jones did. Bottom line, and all those guys are playing /allowed to play in the league now except for stallworth, who will be back next season. If you cant see how killing someone in a drunk driving accident is worse than killing dogs, if you cant see how having a member of your crew shoot and paralyze a person is worse than killing dogs, if you cant see how ray lewis even being involved with the guys that killed a person in a fight is worse than killing dogs than you, sir, are retarted. Literly. Your brain doesnt work. You souldnt be allowed to have internet or a PC, much less an opinion. If lewis, little and pac man are allowed to play then there is no question mike should be allowed to play. The commish of the NFL agrees with me, all of america pretty much agrees with me. You and the other PETA employees are an annoyance that 99 percent of america wishes would go away. Dont get me wrong, i dont hate dogs, i do however hate idiots who think an animals rights are greater than that of a humans though. Cant stand an idiot, and every chance i get to educate one of you morons, i enjoy every key stroke. That noise you just heard was the bell ringing, class is now over, run along now you little peta tree hugger you….you funny little guy you….
    ——————————————————————–
    Seriously is PETA paying people to post all over the net saying what a horrible human being Mike Vick is? LOL
    He paid his debt to society and is a free man now. It’s overwith. He should have a second chance and guess what? He will get one. Oh yes he will get signed and play in the NFL again.
    And to all the PETA wack jobs out there, who cares what you think.
    ———————————————————————————–
    I have to say, I am impressed with the 2 individuals who posted the 2 comments that I have included in my comment (NOT!!). You both are obviously on drugs and have been on a really bad “trip”.
    When you state that the jerk served his time and should be given a 2nd chance, you both obviously cannot or will not look past the “he served his time” bs.
    Let me explain something to you both in very simple terms that you both will be able to comprehend (or at least try real hard to comprehend, ok?).
    I am a retired Animal Control Officer and during that time frame, I investigated too many dog fighting cases, euthanized (put the dogs to sleep) over a hundred (yes, hundred) maimed, injured, near death, beaten, vicious dogs due to the dog fighting.
    Have you 2 ever euthanized such a dog, or any dogs for that matter? I doubt it, because if you had, your stupid comments would have been kept to yourselves.
    You both have obviously kept up to date on the investigation that was posted online/television, in regards to the police finding buried dogs, drowned dogs, beaten dogs, hung dogs, electrocuted dogs, and dogs that were starved to death because they did not meet the criteria for Vick and his assinine followers that died due to the beatings. But do you know how these dogs are and were trained?
    Probably not. You see, to train the dogs to fight, the dog handlers have to do various things to get them to want to fight.
    here are a few things that the sick SOBs such as Vick did to the fighting dogs to get them into the fighting mode:
    1 – starved the dogs to the point that when they were put into the ring with another dog, the fighting dog knew that was his/her meal for the day. (believe me, dogs that are placed into the ring with the fighter, suffers so severely its beyond words.
    2- gunpowder. That’s right. GUNPOWDER. The gunpowder makes the dogs mean. Why and How? It gets into the blood stream and into the brain and drives them mad (like a 2-legged psychopath).
    3 – How do they get the dogs to fight with theirs? Simple – the fighter dog owner (ie Vick) and of course, his buddies, go and either STEAL other peoples beloved pets or they go to the hundred of puppy mills. This is how they train their dogs to fight.
    If you remember correctly, Vick admitted to killing HIS OWN DOGS – these dogs are the ones who did not
    do as well as Vick wanted. How did he kill them? Oh, by the way..when Vick admitted to it, he had already lied to the Federal/State authorities and denied any involvement or knowledge, even though it was on his personal property. He only admitted to the charges AFTER
    1 – drowned them (dogs do not do well when they are having their heads forced into buckets/tubs filled with water and being held down until they die (unfortunately, dogs do not know how to hold their breath like people do).
    2 – Shooting them – That right. Vick and his buddies used them for target practice and/or put a bullet into their heads.
    3 – buried them alive – remember, the investigators found many buried dogs on the property.
    Your idiotic comments that Vick served his time – yeah – 18 months. WOW! However, in case you both are clueless (to which you have shown you are), Vick is a CONVICTED FELON. Do you know that he will never, NEVER! get his rights restored. You know, the right to vote, hold office, possess a firearm, etc.
    So, if he doesn;t have those precisous rights, then why should he have the right to return to a professional sport that the jerks like Stallworth, Packman, Vick, etc should not have the right to return to the NFL. These listed people and others who are in the same classification seem to forget that it is a privilege, not a GOD-given right (that’s right, I mentioned GOD).
    If these idiots choose to drink/drive/kill innocent people and ANIMALS, then that privilege should not be restored, and they should be banned for life.
    Hell, Pete Rose was banned for life for betting on games against his own team. He didn;t kill any helpless animals or people, but he gambled against his own team. That baseball commissioner should have been given a medal for having the balls to do such a thing to a well-known/popular sports player.
    The NFL Commissioner should take lessons from the baseball commissioner and do the same damn thing to Stallworth, Pacman, Vick, and any other player who served time in jail/prison (jail and prison are totally different, which I felt you should be made aware, since you both obviously have no common sense).
    I emailed Goodell the day he announced he had no balls and allowed Vick to come back. As of this date, Goodell has yet to reply, which I knew he wouldn’t.
    As for Dungy, what a LOSER! Of course, the racist card is being played behind the scene. Look at the flack Goodell had to take on when he banned Jones for the year. Dungy is like Favre – stay in the spotlight for the attention, and Dungy even announced on the Hall of fame game how he will be involved and is talking to other teams coaches. Why doesn’t he just go back to coaching and tell his GM that Vick will join his team, and then when Vick gets another dogfighting scene going, Dungy will look like the ass that he is, and can help Vick with the dogs when the dogs need to be killed like the last time.
    One more thing – Vick did not have the balls to stand up at the beginning and take responsibility for what he did. In fact, he denied being involved. In simple terms for you both to understand, HE LIED to Federal investigators, the NFL, and to local authorities. Some role model this jerk is, right?
    He’s rehabilitated?? Right. The first chance Vick gets, he will start up another dogfighting ring, attempt to go through airport security with drugs (since he got away with it the first time, he’ll do it again, because he got away with it once already.
    By the way, why not do some researching on serial killers before you post anymore idiotic comments. Most people with even 1 brain cell in their head knows that serial killers start out by killing helpless animals and eventually turn to the human race.
    As for Stallworth, the judge was also probably under pressure by having the racist card in his face if he gave out a harsh sentence. If VICK cannot get his rights restored by the Federal Government, then he should not be allowed to have his privileges restored to come back to the NFL – this should apply to every professional sports person.
    You get arrested and spend 1 day in jail, no matter what the circumstances, then they should lose their privilege of coming back to the professional sport that they CHOSE to tarnish.

  78. DizMal says: Aug 11, 2009 6:08 AM

    I wonder if Marcus Vick has learned anything from his brother?

  79. Annuvin says: Aug 11, 2009 11:22 AM

    The guy could obviously function in society as a normal person as a lot of people didn’t know about his dogfighting ring before it came out.
    ————————————
    Hey genius, if Mike Vick could “function in society as a normal person” how the hell did he end up in prison in the first place?
    As for Vick’s moral compass, let me see if I understand your logic. Vick has willingly ran an interstate dog fighting/illict gambling circuit for years, tortured animals to death in some of the most inhumane ways he could think of, violated the terms of his bond by using illegal drugs and knowingly spread an incurable STD to at least one of his lovers by not telling her he had it in the first place. Despite all that, you still think that betting against himself is some kind of taboo for him? LOL! You don’t want to buy the Brooklyn Bridge by chance, do you?

  80. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 11:30 AM

    I emailed Goodell the day he announced he had no balls and allowed Vick to come back. As of this date, Goodell has yet to reply, which I knew he wouldn’t.
    _________________________________
    Of course he didnt reply to your PETA email address. In case you missed the memo, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU ANIMAL LOVERS THINK.
    As for Dungy, what a LOSER!
    ___________________________________
    You, the animal control officer, arent half the man tony dungy is, sir.
    Since you’ve done all this wondefull research, lets place a bet on who the idiot is. I’ll bet a thousand dollars that mike vick doesnt turn into a serial killer. Thats what your saying isnt it? listen to yourself, you sound like a crybaby who cant get his way. Either way, put your money where your mouth is mr “animal control officer” AKA peta lackey.
    I hate to break the news to you, but mike vick is reinstated, is getting ready to sign a deal and there is nothing you, peta or animal control can do about other than to suck on your little crybaby thumbs.
    Next time sober up before posting. I guess this slap in the face you just took might have helped sober you up but either way, put the bottle down next time, it doesnt look good on you.

  81. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 11:42 AM

    tigerlover, did mike vick bang your wife or something? You sound like a hater. just FYI.
    Guess what tiger, mike vick is coming back. I think it’s funny that you haters get so worked up over it and yet you cant do anything about it. You just have to sit there and take it. I smile when I think about how much this bothers you and people like you. So go get on your peta sponsored lap top and blog away till your fingers fall off. The bottom line is you and yours are powerless, helpless, like little children who dont know how to walk or feed themselves. Enjoy that. That’s real, that’s life. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahh

  82. Annuvin says: Aug 11, 2009 12:44 PM

    Guess what tiger, mike vick is coming back.
    ———————————–
    If you meant to finish your sentence with “to prison” I would be inclined to agree with you. The national recidivism rate among convicted felons within three years is nearly 70%. Judging Vick by his prior behaviour patterns and low moral fibre, I don’t see it being long before he cooks up some new illegal enterprise and ends up back where he belongs.

  83. DizMal says: Aug 11, 2009 12:56 PM

    Creelington, does Vick know of your feelings for him? I hear they lifted the gay Marriage ban in California. You guys would have a nice life togeather.

  84. SpartaChris says: Aug 11, 2009 1:06 PM

    creelington-
    Perhaps you should read first before you accuse others of being drunk while posting. Tigerlover didn’t say Vick was going to become a serial killer because he tortured animals. He accurately pointed out that serial killers most often start their path to psychotic behavior by first torturing and then killing animals.
    What frightens me is how you seem OK with the way Vick mistreated those animals. I hope I’m wrong, but it seems like you’re perfectly fine with starving an animal for days and beating it just to piss it off. Stealing neighborhood pets to serve as training tools for your dogs. And then killing it in as merciless way as humanly possible all for ones personal enjoyment.
    If you’re really ok with those acts of cruelty, then I seriously hope you don’t breed. The world has enough turds in it, we don’t need any more.

  85. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 1:14 PM

    Now, just for the record-
    I dont hate animals or advocate animal cruelty, and to answer one guys post, Yes, i have owned and loved a dog. I was pretty hurt when charlie(my german shep) passed. Almost like losing a family member. ALMOST is the key word there.
    The point is that people who
    A) think animals should have the same rights as humans, or that
    B) people who abuse animals should be treated as harshly as someone who abuses people
    Are NUTS. You’re crazy. It makes no sense.
    And if people who have killed humans are allowed to play in the nfl, then, by that way of thinking, mike vick, who never killed a human, has to be allowed to play again. Thats all I’m really saying.
    To answer another post,
    Yeah, mike vick was an average to above average QB, but he was/is the greatest running QB of all time. As a pure passer he needs work, he’s below average at best in that category, I agree, but when you add in the electric ability and speed he has…..Wow. He’s someone teams could use. A great weapon.
    Still though, i’d bet a million bucks he’s learned his lesson. Only people who get to say he never gets another chance are the people who have NEVER EVER done anything wrong in their entire life. Dont judge, lest you be judged. Remember that.
    All i really hope is that one of you peta haters makes a mistake one day, and that people attack you as hard for your actions as you attack mike vick for his. If you cant give compassion, you cant expect to have it given to you.
    And, that, folks, is the bottom line. You can accept it or reject it, but you cant change it.

  86. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 1:23 PM

    Thats funny diz. Now that you know i crushed you every which way to sunday(the day of the week mike will be scoring TD’s on this season)
    and that you have no other recourse, you start the gay jokes. Good one! Basically you just admitted that you and all your fellow peta employees have been smacked sideways with the truth, by myself, and that you really cant formulate any kind of a valid response. But great gay joke….
    I have one question though, What does togeather mean? Is that something you and your boyfriend do, and you thought just because you like it you think everyone else would too? Sorry, im not gay or into your kinky manhole tricks. So, on second thought, dont bother telling what “togeather” means. I’d rather not know……

  87. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 2:11 PM

    Sparta chris,
    No one cares what frightens you, you sound like another peta employee.
    But i will say this,
    No one on this entire message board defends animal cruelty. I wasn’t ok with what he did until he was punished. After he was punished, WAY too harshly might i add, I’m ok with the situation. Sparta, let me give you a bit of advice, life is way too short to be bitter about people you’ve never met and never will meet.
    The man was bad person, true. He went to federal prison for killing animals, when he should’ve gotten probation and mental evaluation, paid his debt. Get over it man. You’ll live a lot longer.
    Or do whatever you want to, grit your teeth every time he scores and rant and rave about how you cant believe vick is allowed to blah blah blah blah blah. You make yourself look some kind of a zealot and people just kinda snicker at you under their breath. Stop trying to make mike vick look bad and worry about what concerns you.
    P.S.
    How much does PETA pay? Not nearly enough I’d be willing to bet.

  88. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 2:21 PM

    Perhaps you should read first before you accuse others of being drunk while posting. Tigerlover didn’t say Vick was going to become a serial killer because he tortured animals. He accurately pointed out that serial killers most often start their path to psychotic behavior by first torturing and then killing animals.
    ____________________________
    Sparta, I did read the post. Don’t be stupid sparta, you know where that idiot was going with his statement about the link between animal cruelty and abusing people.
    He was trying to plant the seed in peoples heads that maybe mike is abusing women and children, hey, most dog abuser do so mike probably is or will. That’s what he was saying ya genius. My reply to that was, I’d bet that mike doesn’t beat women or children, he declined the wager. Simple really. Are you having trouble following the conversation sparta? Maybe you’re the one who thinks it’s five o’clock somewhere huh?????

  89. creelington says: Aug 11, 2009 2:33 PM

    Annuvin says:
    August 11, 2009 12:44 PM
    Guess what tiger, mike vick is coming back.
    ———————————–
    If you meant to finish your sentence with “to prison” I would be inclined to agree with you. The national recidivism rate among convicted felons within three years is nearly 70%. Judging Vick by his prior behaviour patterns and low moral fibre, I don’t see it being long before he cooks up some new illegal enterprise and ends up back where he belongs.
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    Annuvin, you might be the dumbest out of the peta bunch. This one is too easy but since you teed it up for me so nicely ill knock it out of the park for you and teach a little something all at the same time.
    That rate is based on felons who go back into the same or similar lifestyle with no prospect of a successful future, or even a job flipping burgers for that matter. If all those felons surveyed were looking at NFL careers and millions of dollars of earning potential do you think the 70% would drop just a tad. HMMMMMM???? Any non retarded human being knows it would come down to almost zero. Ever heard the saying “money talks”? It does, and even criminals cant help but listen son. Remember that.
    Get real goofball. Your survey, stats and hate mean nothing, much like your opinion.

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