Last word on Matt Nagy

Little did we know as of Tuesday morning that a 31-year-old former AFL slappy would be the subject of so many stories in this space.

But we’re intrigued by the maneuver the Eagles pulled on Monday, elevating Matt Nagy from coaching intern to No. 3 quarterback.

We became even more intrigued when the team announced that the league rejected the contract with Nagy, and that the Eagles thereafter opted to abandon any efforts to sign him.

We’ve heard from several sources that Nagy’s contract with a team in the now-defunct Arena League was responsible for the disapproval of his NFL contract.  But when coach Andy Reid addressed the matter of Nagy’s deal earlier today, Reid was vague.

“[Nagy] just wasn’t approved by the NFL; it wasn’t any more than that,” Reid said. “That’s what that is.”

An increasing number of league sources firmly believe that the league slammed the door on a potential loophole regarding roster limits — and that a formal rule will eventually be passed.

“Can’t you see teams stashing quality players as interns next year if the league didn’t intervene?” said a league source who is convinced the rejection had nothing to do with the AFL.  “It had never occurred previously.  There will be a rule created soon, guaranteed.”

OK, so maybe the last word will actually come when the rule is announced.

33 responses to “Last word on Matt Nagy

  1. I’m not an Eagles fan (at all), but think this was a brilliant (!!) move by the team. Really, whats the big deal? If a guy is legitimately skilled enough to be on an NFL roster why would he opt to ride the pine as an “intern” with little (or no) pay, when he could ride the pine somewhere else and make the league minimum?! College has its “red-shirt”, why not let the NFL have its “interns”…I guess I just don’t view this as a major problem or concern. Whats wrong with the teams being just a little deeper?

  2. It makes sense to close the loophole, and I do see the potential for teams to abuse this, but it’s pretty ridiculous to think the Eagles were “stashing” this guy.
    The Eagles have tons of these interns in camp every year. A lot of them are ex-NFL players or former college players who want to get involved in coaching on one level or another. This year they had Greg Lloyd, Mike Zordich, Todd Pinkston, etc.
    Kolb got hurt a couple days before a game and they needed someone to toss a few passes on the last day of camp and be available in an emergency on Thursday night. The kid probably wasn’t even going to play unless Feeley got hurt, but it would have made for a nice story.

  3. “Can’t you see teams stashing quality players as interns next year if the league didn’t intervene?” said a league source who is convinced the rejection had nothing to do with the AFL. “It had never occurred previously. There will be a rule created soon, guaranteed.”
    Huh? Yeah, I bet the Vikings were days away from making Adrian Peterson their running back intern.
    Come on, whoever said this is a moron. It’s pretty obvious when “quality” players become interns. Nagy was an NFL wannabe that was only going to take a few snaps for one preseason game and be gone.
    Most people knowledgable about the Eagles assumed DeMichele was coming back. For some reason they chose Nagy. It doesn’t matter, they still had to release a guy to fill up the roster.

  4. “But when coach Andy Reid addressed the matter of Nagy’s deal earlier today, Reid was vague.”
    ——————————————-
    After a decade of Reid’s press conferences being about as exciting as a trip to the dentist, and as informative as a blank peice of paper. Don’t tell me you actually expected answers to questions? Reid, vague?…..No way that can be true……

  5. OK, is this going to be called the Naggy Rule, or the nagging rule, or the nagged rule or something?
    I get enough nagging from my wife and don’t need the NFL to nag on me also…

  6. The issue is, why would any “quality player” agree to a job as a coaching intern with the faint possibility that someone could get hurt and he might be the replacement?
    The concept of stashing players is relevant only to players that another team would want on their roster. You can’t stash a guy that no one wants. Anyone who is working as a coaching intern is someone who doesn’t have the option of joining another team. Hence, it isn’t stashing.
    But PFT has sunk its teeth into this one, and now we’re being beat over the head with it.

  7. Wasn’t Steve DeBerg an assistant QB coach for the Falcons for a while before becoming their 3rd string QB in ’98? Or am I “misremembering”?

  8. The Eagirls got caught trying to circumvent roster limits. It’s pure spin to say that his NFL contract was denied because of a contract with an Arena team that doesn’t even exist anymore.

  9. Honestly, I don’t get it.
    “Can’t you see teams stashing quality players as interns next year if the league didn’t intervene?” said a league source who is convinced the rejection had nothing to do with the AFL.
    Actually, NO!!!! If a player is “quality”, don’t you think someone would PAY that person to be on the roster? And don’t you think that that person would be getting paid by someone outside the AFL right now if he was of that high of “quality”. What if he actually was a paid coach and they wanted to make him active (kind of like when Pete Rose was both the manager and a player), is that also a problem somehow? I get the part about him being privvy to team meetings and the playbook, etc. but honestly, can I see teams “stashing quality players as interns next year”? NO!!! Because some other team would be paying that person to be on their roster.

  10. “The concept of stashing players is relevant only to players that another team would want on their roster.”
    No, it’s relative to roster limitations. Not all players of any level of quality will hold the same value to all teams. e.g. the Eagirls may think that Jason Peters is worth the money they gave him because they lost two tackles in the off-season, but no other NFCE team would.

  11. Nagy=Quality
    Feeley=Stud
    Kolb=Hall Of Fame
    McNabb=God
    Florio, you need to find a new “league source”.

  12. Did a league source imply that Matt Nagy might be a quality player? Doubt it and i doubt that the eagles ever had any intentions of keeping Matt on the active roster much long after Kolb returns. If matt knows the playbook it was a brilliant attempt by the eagles to get an extra arm in camp that could give some decent reps for the rest of the offense rather than the team having to try to teach some young slappy like Morts kid the playbook and not get anything done.

  13. VoxVeritas says: August 12, 2009 12:08 PM
    The Eagirls got caught trying to circumvent roster limits. It’s pure spin to say that his NFL contract was denied because of a contract with an Arena team that doesn’t even exist anymore.
    Yeah, because that 81st man who’s actually a 31-year-old AFL has-been is going to lead them to the promised land. I guess the Eagles are just big old cheaters, huh? There was no rule against it, so why wouldn’t you try it? Anyway, they signed another QB today so this whole story is moot.

  14. Roster limits exist for a reason. Every team probably has numerous players who they would love to keep available in case of injury or to further develop their skills, but can’t do to other, more pressing, personnel needs. This interim coach position is an obvious attempt to get around the roster limits and should not be allowed.
    Also, keep in mind that we are not talking about starting quality players here. These seem to be individuals whom teams want as backups in case of long term injuries to the #1, 2, or 3s. Thus the appeal of having a coach-turned-player who has spent the entire season attending meetings, studying the playbook, and working with the starters (as apposed to signing a complete newcomer off the street) is obviously apparent. It would be a small but unfair advantage.

  15. the raiders are doing the same this with danny southwick. JerryMac’s Blog reported him as throwing passing to DHB on the sideline while DHB was resting a sore toe. Danny Southwick is Officially a “Coaching Intern” with the raiders

  16. “Yeah, because that 81st man who’s actually a 31-year-old AFL has-been is going to lead them to the promised land.”
    No, it just gives them more camp bodies than all of the other teams.
    “I guess the Eagles are just big old cheaters, huh?”
    Well they tried, but as per usual… FAIL.
    “There was no rule against it, so why wouldn’t you try it?”
    Because it’s against the rules, and that’s why the contract was voided. Trust me, that’s not a place that cheapskate Lurie wants to go anyway. If you can have one you can have a hundred of them, and there’s no salary cap limiting what coaches or interns are paid.

  17. I can’t fault the Eagles for getting creative and finding a hole in the matrix. Good on them for thinking outside the box.

  18. I don’t understand the difference between signing the guy with a contract, and stashing him as an intern, yet using him like a 3rd QB that isn’t suited up. I don’t see how this really hurts the Eagles who will say now, “Can’t sign him, so will just use him like before.”

  19. The roster limit is their for a reason. So teams can only LOCK UP 80 players each, leaving enough wannabe’s for every team.
    If you are part of a teams 80 man roster you are NOT free to sign with anyone else because you are under contract to your team.
    A coaching intern is NOT locked up, or stashed, or hidden, or any other clever vocabulary choice. He is free to sign with ANY team at ANY time. If anyone had an interest in him they could bring him in whenever they wanted.
    This whole topic is STUPID mike. They don’t need yet another pointless rule.

  20. Matt Nagy was an intern last year too . I guess it doesn’t hurt to plan ahead …….

  21. “I can’t fault the Eagles for getting creative and finding a hole in the matrix. Good on them for thinking outside the box.”
    Eh, if they were really smart they’d have just told the guy to stay near the phone. They had him come closer, and now he’s not going to be able to serve the purpose that they really wanted him for. That’s smart? That’s a guy that they wanted to sign to a player contract but will never be allowed to do so.

  22. This talk is crazy…Everyone calling the Eagles “Cheaters” and “Abusing the System”…Hey, Guess what. All Teams have interns that were former players, College Players, Or Different League players. It just so happens that the Eagles had a coaching intern that knew the system and could throw the ball around for 2 weeks so Kolb could get better. They tried to sign him to a short deal but the NFL didnt allow it. Are the Eagles Cheaters??? NO…Did the Abuse the system?? NO. That is why the NFL has to approve of the contract and the signing….its a check and balance. This story should have read as follows……The Eagles tried to see if they could sign the intern for two weeks…the collective NFL heads looked around and each other…shoot their collective head no…Eagles said Aww Shucks….End of story! NEXT!

  23. AJ Feely will play the part of Back-up QB..the Eagles signed Adam DiMichele as a third string….Hopefully he didnt agree to be an Intern since we cut him in June.

  24. What does an Eagles intern actually do — run to McDonalds three times a day for Andy’s Big Mac’s?

  25. This is almost saying the same thing as an owner hiring a former QB to clean his house and wait just in case their starter gets hurt…An Intern is not on any NFL Contract. The problem was that the NFL and AFL have agreements that no player in either league can play for another team if they are currently signed, no matter what league they play for. Nagy was still on an AFL Contract.

  26. I am pretty sure that none of you have ever seen Matt Nagy play. I saw him play for 2 years as an intern for the Destroyers and it is my opinion that he could be a good backup QB in the NFL if given the chance. Also its not like the Eagles just decided to bring him into camp in case someone gets hurt, I think he was with the Eagles last year as a coaching intern too.

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