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Bengals holdout Smith not close to signing

Brett Favre’s return may not be good news to Packers fans and beleaguered Midwestern football scribes, but it will certainly take the spotlight off other NFL stories of the day.

And for that, Michael Vick, Tom Cable, Brandon Marshall, and the remaining rookie holdouts should send Favre a hearty thanks. 

One of those rookies, Bengals tackle Andre Smith, is reportedly $5-$10 million apart in contract negotiations with Cincinnati, according to NFL Network’s Steve Wyche.

Wyche paints a grim picture for folks like quarterback Carson Palmer who would love to see the projected starter get to work. 

The Bengals reportedly increased their offer recently, but it is still less than the deal handed to Vernon Gholston in the same draft slot last year.  Wyche says that Smith’s holdout is in even worse shape than Michael Crabtree’s and could go right up until the start of the regular season, if that soon.

Cameras for the HBO show Hard Knocks showed Smith working out on his own, but he didn’t exactly look like he was in game shape.  (This year’s Hard Knocks, incidentally, looks even better than usual, which is saying a lot.)

Bengals president Mike Brown didn’t sound broken up on the program about Smith’s holdout, further indicating that it could drag on into September.

The only drama left is seeing what holdout will last the longest: Smith, Crabtree, ordarkhorse pick Bills defensive end Aaron Maybin?

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36 Responses to “Bengals holdout Smith not close to signing”
  1. RedDMV says: Aug 18, 2009 4:19 PM

    I’m wondering who’ll be the more potential bust…
    Crabtree, or the 36FF, Andre Smith?
    Get your asses into camp already.

  2. JakeDSnake says: Aug 18, 2009 4:23 PM

    Andre “Akili 2.0” Smith, gets to skip camp and still make more money this year than anyone on the Bengals roster. Sweet. This’ll definately work out Bengals fans.

  3. Sofa King Great says: Aug 18, 2009 4:28 PM

    Is there a precedent in recent years concerning a first round draft pick actually getting less than the previous years??
    (disregarding the quarterback premium if the following years player is not another qb)

  4. TheVillain112 says: Aug 18, 2009 4:28 PM

    Put the $5-$10 Mil in weight clauses and both sides will be happy.
    Keels gets the total $ value in the contract to attract new players and the Bengals don’t have to ever worry about paying the $5-$10 Mil.

  5. Bengalsfannbaltimore says: Aug 18, 2009 4:28 PM

    I am a huge Bengals fan and I could care less if he doesnt sign. Our Oline is doing ok with out him. I really dont agree with anything that Mike Brown does because I think he is a horrible owner, but I agree with him on not giving in to these kids that think they deserve so much for playing in college. They need to create a rookie salary cap ASAP to fix these problems.
    By the way, is it just me or does Florio have an obsession with the Bengals. He os always writing the dumbest articles about them. I havent seen him write an article yet about Maybin holding out. Oh well, hopefully one day he will get off the Bengals nutts!!!!

  6. st21snyderblows says: Aug 18, 2009 4:32 PM

    “Cameras for the HBO show Hard Knocks showed Smith working out on his own, but he didn’t exactly look like he was in game shape”
    He looks like the same fat a$$ that ran with his shirt off, as far as I’m concerned all three are douches and they can take thier 10 million and cry to somebody else.

  7. Dreadnought says: Aug 18, 2009 4:33 PM

    “The Bengals reportedly increased their offer recently, but it is still less than the deal handed to Vernon Gholston in the same draft slot last year. ”
    How do the Bengals even think that they can begin negotiations this way? I understand that different positions can warrant varying pay, but it’s almost as if the organization wants a holdout with this stance. Obviously they are going to end up paying him more than what Gholston got last year… right?

  8. Whododrums says: Aug 18, 2009 4:34 PM

    I just love my home town team, we’ll offer close to 3 million to a dog killer like Vick but wont take that amount and add it to Smith’s offer to get his fat-ass into camp.
    Mike Brown in 2012

  9. Choirdrunk says: Aug 18, 2009 4:35 PM

    Here’s the difference between Smith and Crabtree. Crabtree is asking for 50% more than he should get in his slot. The 49ers are, wisely, staying put. Smith is asking for market for his slot and, oh-so-shockingly, the Bengals are creating problems with their legendary cheapness.
    The Bengals are also hoping to parlay Smith’s pre-draft issues into leverage so that he, and not the Bengals, are seen as the bad guys.
    But, given how fast everyone gets on rookies for holding out, it’s really telling that, when it comes to Smith, all the usual suspects are keeping their lips zipped as to what he should and shouldn’t do.
    If you get to the NFL, jackpot, but, man, Cincy and Buffalo from a pay perspective, may be the worst teams to have drafting you.

  10. paul says: Aug 18, 2009 4:37 PM

    Bengals were stupid to draft the headcase. Happy in Jax to Eugene Monroe. He is a beast.

  11. kesc0701 says: Aug 18, 2009 4:39 PM

    This falls completely on the Bengals front office. How could they have NOT seen this coming from a character like Andre Smith? Why would anyone waste a draft pick on this guy? Obviously his greed and selfishness is going to drive him to hold out for as long as possible. Smith still believes he should have been the first pick in the draft and is going to hold out until he sees that kind of money. The NFL needs to do something about these rookie salaries, it’s pretty pathetic most of these rookies make more money than PROVEN veterans!

  12. PatricktheDookie says: Aug 18, 2009 4:39 PM

    That’s great, but what does this have to do with Brett Favre?

  13. 1 Magic Loogie says: Aug 18, 2009 4:40 PM

    Make his ass sit….
    A. Collins can hold down the fort all season as far as I’m concerned. He would just be a very expensive backup and will be WAY behind missing all of TC and is guaranteed to be over weight.
    Rookie wage scale!!!

  14. BrenstonBuckner says: Aug 18, 2009 4:41 PM

    He won’t sign until he’s allowed to run the 40 shirtless in front of Marvin Lewis’ wife…Negotiations are at a standstill—–

  15. rich in cincy says: Aug 18, 2009 4:43 PM

    Mikey and Katey (his daughter) are AWESOME! O-line will be fine without them. Get him in later and get him ready for next year. Who-dey!

  16. veistran says: Aug 18, 2009 4:50 PM

    Nobody is jumping on Andre Smith for holding out because the Bengals haven’t even made it to the negotiating table with an offer that wouldn’t get them laughed out of the room by any NFL agent.

  17. Detroit Muscle says: Aug 18, 2009 4:54 PM

    Tell him to stay home. The bengals don’t need to continue to become a bunch of Cinnci-Fattys.

  18. Start Colt Brennan says: Aug 18, 2009 4:55 PM

    He’s holding out for more money so he can get his breast reduction surgery like chad dukes!!

  19. bobinpuertorico says: Aug 18, 2009 5:02 PM

    You clearly do not know what you are talking about when it comes to being drafted by Buffalo. The Bills have no problem consistently paying the correct amount to the players that they draft, based on what the corresponding position paid last year and what current positions just ahead and behind are paid.

  20. Chitown says: Aug 18, 2009 5:06 PM

    Maybin will be the longest because he is scared to and small and has that DBag Lavar Arrington thinking Ralph Wilson is Dan Snyder. The minute MoneyGrabTree and Eugeen “Jason Peters is the GOAT” Parker went 10 the Bills should of bailed on that pick.

  21. Bengalsfannbaltimore says: Aug 18, 2009 5:07 PM

    NFL NEEDS A ROOKIE CAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. thetruth says: Aug 18, 2009 5:10 PM

    Gohlston is worth every bit of his deal right? The guy had 1 tackle last year as a #6 pick and it was on speacial teams. I praise the 9ers, Bills and Bengals. Put these guys in their place. It’s the other 29 teams screwing it up! (Raiders)! Reset the standard NFL teams. Follow these three teams sainess! It’s an example people, not being tight! 33-35 mil is never tight.

  23. EskinSux says: Aug 18, 2009 5:12 PM

    How the hell are they$5-$10 million apart?……Doesn’t sound like either side is negotiating at all…….Shouldn’t the front office expected this?

  24. oruacat2 says: Aug 18, 2009 5:16 PM

    I’m starting to wonder if NOT signing him is the plan?
    Isn’t this the next best thing to trading-out of the first round when the only players unanimously touted as worthy-of-first-round-money are already off the draft board when your turn comes ’round?
    What happens if we NEVER sign him? Anyone think he’ll get first-round-money of ANY sort as a free agent?

  25. oruacat2 says: Aug 18, 2009 5:26 PM

    ps – addendum to my first post:
    As has been mentioned in another thread, this is the final UNCAPPED year – so again, what are the repercussions, if any, of NOT signing Andre Smith to a contract paying him far more than the Bengals think he’s worth?

  26. DillyBean says: Aug 18, 2009 5:27 PM

    “Put the $5-$10 Mil in weight clauses and both sides will be happy.
    Keels gets the total $ value in the contract to attract new players and the Bengals don’t have to ever worry about paying the $5-$10 Mil.”
    That is actually a BRILLIANT idea!

  27. oruacat2 says: Aug 18, 2009 6:03 PM

    “Put the $5-$10 Mil in weight clauses and both sides will be happy.
    Keels gets the total $ value in the contract to attract new players and the Bengals don’t have to ever worry about paying the $5-$10 Mil.”
    Hell yeah!

  28. BakerSucks says: Aug 18, 2009 6:59 PM

    BUST!!! Tell that fat ass to stay home. He SCREAMS BUST. He will eat out of the league in 2 years. I hate MIke Brown and I would stand pat and not give in to this tub of lard.

  29. BakerSucks says: Aug 18, 2009 7:04 PM

    Thats an expensive tub of jelly. It would take his fat ass 3 months to even get into game shape. Let him go.

  30. BakerSucks says: Aug 18, 2009 7:34 PM

    Hey Andre, in training camp they have twinkies…..all the twinkies you can eat…..come to the twinkies Andre, come to the twinkies…..come on tubby tubby tubby, and bring your no name, small time agent. On the way to twinkie land, have him tell you the story of Steve Logan, because you are on the same career path.

  31. Voyager6 says: Aug 18, 2009 9:16 PM

    First, There is a 1st round Bengals Smith curse (Akili, Justin, and now Andre). The Bengals should NEVER draft a Smith in the first round!
    Second, I think this is a “teach ’em all a lesson” from Mike Brown. I think he is incensed over the agent change thing. I fully expect no deal this year, and then when Andre re-enters the draft next year, I expect Mike to pick Andre a second time and not negotiate again… just to teach him a lesson.

  32. BakerSucks says: Aug 18, 2009 9:27 PM

    I actually support Mike Brown on this one. Dont overpay for a fat turd.

  33. SixBurghDude says: Aug 18, 2009 11:11 PM

    …same as it ever was!
    …BungHoles INDEED!!!

  34. whodey says: Aug 19, 2009 10:44 AM

    If you don’t want to pay for a 6th pick, don’t draft one. Bengals are losing their momentum…holdouts and Palmer’s ankle…what next??? It’s a recurring nightmare. I need a new team!

  35. Pam M. says: Aug 19, 2009 12:12 PM

    As a Bengal season ticket holder, I am tired of holdouts every year. How much do these kids think they are worth? Andre had ‘holdout’ written all over him before they handed him his jersey. Leave him unsigned…Let him go back in the draft next year.

  36. islebfrank says: Aug 19, 2009 4:43 PM

    SuxBighDudes says:
    August 18, 2009 11:11 PM
    “…same as it ever was!
    …BungHoles INDEED!!!”
    Come on Sux, try to focus on football!

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