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No contact between Niners, Crabtree

As the contract impasse between the San Francisco 49ers and the tenth overall pick in the 2009 draft approaches September 1, a league source tells us that there has been “no contact” between the Niners and Eugene Parker, the agent for receiver Michael Crabtree.

It’s widely believed that Crabtree wants to secure more money in the tenth slot than receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey finagled from the Raiders as the seventh overall pick.

It’s also widely believed that the 49ers won’t pay Crabtree a dime more than the Packers gave to defensive lineman B.J. Raji at the ninth overall slot.

Meanwhile, we’re hearing that Parker is dealing with the Crabtree conundrum on the recruiting trail by blaming the holdout on the player.  Parker, we’re told, is pointing to the deal he negotiated for defensive end Tyson Jackson at the third overall slot as proof that Parker is willing and able to negotiate a fair deal for a first-round pick.

We continue to think that the two sides will come together not long before the regular season begins.  But we also think that Crabtree won’t have the kind of impact he could have had as a rookie, if he’d merely taken a slotted deal and gotten into camp.

And we recognize the possibility that Crabtree thinks enough of his skills (after all, he said he can run a 4.4 with crutches) that he could re-enter the draft and be picked even higher next year.

We’re still kind of rooting for that, primarily since Peter King has vowed to change his name to Derek Jeter if Crabtree goes into the 2010 draft pool.

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63 Responses to “No contact between Niners, Crabtree”
  1. Youngone says: Aug 25, 2009 6:42 PM

    We this, we that….is Gollum ghost writing for you?

  2. killachap says: Aug 25, 2009 6:47 PM

    EARTH TO MICHAEL CRABTREE:
    You havent done a damn thing to deserve any contract so be damn grateful that they are offering you anything. Obviously no other team thought you were worth a higher draft choice so guess what, you aren’t. Take your paycheck and get on the field before you go into next years draft and are a 7th round pick at best. Idiot.

  3. KILLER FIN says: Aug 25, 2009 6:50 PM

    GET RID OF HIS SORRY ASS!!!

  4. phillyfreak7 says: Aug 25, 2009 6:50 PM

    His agent is probably why he was picked 10th and not 4th.

  5. airc94 says: Aug 25, 2009 6:55 PM

    No, Florio just gets a kick of writing like a justice on the Supreme Court.

  6. killwithme says: Aug 25, 2009 6:58 PM

    Parker can talk all he wants, but the facts are that he tried to get the #3 pick #3 money when everyone knew he was drafted by position need, not best available. Then he’s got a top 5 player that was taken 10.
    “I don’t care if he was the 15th best player in the draft, he was drafted 3, I want #3 money”
    “what? hold on Pioli, I’ve got the 49ers on the phone.”
    “yeah, we all know he was top 5 talent, I don’t care if he was taken #10, I want top 5 money”
    stupid ass…

  7. touchdowntrabo says: Aug 25, 2009 6:59 PM

    You know, it’s funny: I used to criticize players and hate on guys that would hold out for long periods of time. But the fact is, I never experienced it as a fan of the team involved in the impasse.
    And now that I am, for the first time, watching a player hold out for an entire preseason from my favorite team… I really don’t care at all.
    I’m excited for his talent, glad that we got him, and I’m sad that he pretty much isn’t going to be a factor in 2009, but really… this whole hold out isn’t bothering me at all.
    Plenty to be excited about in Ninerland… he’ll be around for another 5 or 6 years and I just don’t see the point of getting my panties in a bunch over it.

  8. Journeyman says: Aug 25, 2009 6:59 PM

    He probably realizes that the 49ers suck and have no QB at all, and is willing to take his chances next year in the 2010 draft.

  9. danlinker says: Aug 25, 2009 7:00 PM

    Too funny. Love it. Great pick there.

  10. BroncoFan1546 says: Aug 25, 2009 7:00 PM

    I dare him to wait , until next years draft.

  11. killachap says: Aug 25, 2009 7:10 PM

    @ touchdowntrabo
    Are you sure you aren’t a fellow Cowboys fan? You are certainly more delirious than anyone I’ve ever heard. What the hell do you have to look forward to this year? Playing for next years number 1?

  12. ragin40 says: Aug 25, 2009 7:12 PM

    Shaun hill gets you excited to be a niner fan? Child please….

  13. Paul_R. says: Aug 25, 2009 7:16 PM

    touchdowntrabo, you said:
    “he’ll be around for another 5 or 6 years and I just don’t see the point of getting my panties in a bunch over it.”
    If he holds out for the entire year, he can re-enter the draft next year. Until the day of the draft, the Niners still hold rights to him. But, on draft day any team can then draft him and he’d likely no longer be a Niner. Just wanted to point that out to you.
    Honestly, he really should have just signed, gotten into camp, and been done with it. He loses if he goes into next year’s draft, mostly because he’ll be a full year out of any competitive football. His stock drops, he loses money.

  14. empty13 says: Aug 25, 2009 7:17 PM

    only costing himself $ and driving down his trade value.

  15. rockotica says: Aug 25, 2009 7:21 PM

    u dont hear this alot but mangini was right, even if he denied saying it; craptree IS a diva. he IS a risk.

  16. MikeDingleBerry says: Aug 25, 2009 7:23 PM

    Can’t Draft him … Can’t Sign him … Can’t cry with him … Can’t wait until the 2010 draft.

  17. rockotica says: Aug 25, 2009 7:27 PM

    @ airc94
    if florio was writing like a SC “justice” it would be like this…..
    blah bl;efhscnsdsdkva';vfvnfvmv;,adfv,davadl,fv blah

  18. Mullester says: Aug 25, 2009 7:28 PM

    It’s widely believed, were hearing, we continue to think, were told. What sort of journalism is this Fox news?

  19. Golden_Niner says: Aug 25, 2009 7:30 PM

    Screw the fool, we’ll make due with what we got. Phunkin Crybaby.

  20. csulb49er says: Aug 25, 2009 7:31 PM

    As a Niners fan, I sincerely hope that the front office tells this moron, and his imbecillic agent to take their demands, and cram them up their collective a$$es! Try strong-arming #7 money out of whatever team takes you in the 2nd or 3rd round you toolbags!

  21. VonClausewitz says: Aug 25, 2009 7:31 PM

    Every year there’s a Crabtree. Every year. And almost invariably these holdouts turn into divas who don’t produce. There are a few exceptions sure. But it’s become predictable enough to give pause to GMs who pay attention to the trends.

  22. det32 says: Aug 25, 2009 7:37 PM

    i hope he goes in to the next years draft
    what yall thinking round 5??

  23. descendency says: Aug 25, 2009 7:37 PM

    In the seventh round… The 49ers select Michael Crabtree.

  24. PJW says: Aug 25, 2009 7:37 PM

    The best outcome here would be he holds out for the year and a rookie cap is implemented he is then subject to.
    Or the team that drafts him next year (lower than # 10) offers even less.

  25. StevieMo says: Aug 25, 2009 7:38 PM

    I don’t know what is funnier — Crapgreed thinking he’s the best player in the draft or the 49ers fan on here (who, BTW, admits he wears panties) who is excited about another 5-11 season for SF.
    As a die-hard NFL fan who lives in the Bay Area, my observation is that 49ers fans are excited because Singletary says things like, “We’re gonna punch you in the mouth” and crap like that and they think that’s all that’s required to win games. Yeah, like no one’s ever thought of THAT in the NFL before.
    San Francisco: 7 straight losing seasons, zero quarterbacks (again), no additions to the thin and less-than-talented offensive and defensive lines, yet another head coach with zero head coaching experience and the worst management in the NFL (York, York, Marathe, McCloughan), save for possibly Oakland.
    Your panties will be twisting real soon, big fella.

  26. RaiderMight says: Aug 25, 2009 7:47 PM

    In two preseasons, the whiners have shown that they will be OK without Crabs. Especially with the QBs they have.
    If he wants to play it that way, let him.

  27. PossibleCabbage says: Aug 25, 2009 7:47 PM

    I think the 49ers should offer him a contract right before the first game with its total value vastly increased by huge incentives that can only be met in his rookie year. That would be entertaining.

  28. stanjam says: Aug 25, 2009 8:07 PM

    Makes no sense. A player throwing away an entire season based on trying to get more money, even though they are, essentially, unproven. It isn’t like he is negotiating a wage that would make the difference between actually being able to have some extra money vs. just getting by. Either way he WILL make enough money that, used effectively, will have him set for life.
    Instead he puts himself in a situation where he will be way underprepared for play at the NFL level. And if he doesn’t show he can play well, that could follow him for a LONG time, including when it comes time to negotiate future contracts, or sign with another team. Unless he shows himself to be really good at the NFL level, his behavior now will be taken into consideration if he finds himself in need of a job. His attitude, and the fact that he is being a PIA in negotiations, may cause potential future teams to take a pass on Crabtree and go in another direction. Shame.
    He should be thankful that he has the talent to be drafted in the NFL, and accept a reasonable contract, get his but in there, and play it off to show he deserves the money. Instead, it looks like he is going to be another prima donna receiver, who is more interested in taking up as much of the cap space as possible instead of doing what is best for his team. So many players seem to think that the amount they are paid shows their overall rank in the NFL. They think that if they are paid the most at that position, that means that they are best at that position. Ugh.

  29. as big as a hat says: Aug 25, 2009 8:08 PM

    Crabtree’s chances of doing better by sitting out a year are slightly better than Florio winning an award for his writing. I’d love to see Crabtree do it just to see what happens, but he’ll probably sign sometime next month.

  30. touchdowntrabo says: Aug 25, 2009 8:08 PM

    You guys are a bunch of loud mouth piss-your-pants idiots. You probably all sit around the bar with your buddies watching UFC fights saying “I can take him!”
    Easy to pick on the 49ers, and go ahead… we obviously haven’t been great since we were the greatest franchise in the NFL and we had the best quarterback of all time followed up by another one of the all time greats. Not to mention the best WR of all time. You were all pissed that we were in the glory then, and you’re getting your punches in now. Go ahead… I can handle it.
    The fact remains that the NFL is a difficult league to turn around a team (after Terry Donahue and Dennis Erickson DESTROY IT) and I’m happy with the course the 9ers have taken to do so. If you look at the roster that Dennis had and you look at the roster that Singletary inherited, the 49ers have done a lot of good things (some bad, of course) to get to where we are.
    Nothing to be excited about? Say what you will about Shaun Hill, he ain’t sexy, that’s for sure.. but the guy is 7-3 and somehow some guys just get things done. I DO remember quite a few HACKS getting to superbowls (e.g. Stan Humphries? Neil O’Donnell? Trent Dilfer even WON one).
    Now I’m not saying we’re a superbowl contender but to say that we’re destined for another 5-11 season is just haterade talking. Nothing to be excited about? The best LB in the league? Good shutdown corner? Top 5 running back?
    And yeah, “we’ll hit ‘em in the mouth” is NOT new.. but having a coach that COMMANDS respect from each and every person he meets? It’s not just posturing gentlemen, this is a legitimate leader with control and respect of a locker room. It takes a lot more than big names and big money to win the NFL boys, and it starts with a tight, core group of players with heart, lead by a man with heart.
    Say what you will, but there is plenty for me to be excited about. And you watch, Crabtree will be a beast next year, just to spite all you girls.

  31. epping16 says: Aug 25, 2009 8:12 PM

    StevieMO: Is your team that bad all you do is bad mouth the 49ers? Everytime I see a topic on the 49ers I see you bad mouthing the last 7 seasons….lol And your comment “thats all they think is required to win” yeah cause theres alot of fan bases out there that know more about winning than the 49ers you freaking retard! Get a life and say something that has to do with the article once in awhile or just shut the hell up.

  32. Humboldt420 says: Aug 25, 2009 8:58 PM

    As a 49ers fan, it’s been tough dealing with this Crabtree debacle.
    The Niners don’t have a true number one, Isaac Bruce is a great wide out, a number 2 wide out. And like others have said, the team has marginal quarterbacks at best.
    This is sad, sad stuff.
    I believe that Crabtree, if he is as good as he thinks he is, sign the deal, then two-three years, restructure the deal for more money.
    In my eyes, until he proves otherwise, Crabtree is the next Rashaun Woods to me.
    Remember him?
    The Oklahoma State wide receiver the 49ers took in the first round a few years back?
    He put up ungodly stats in the Big 12 in the spread offense aLa Crabtree and I was excited. He set records and all that good junk.
    Once he got to the NFL, he was an absolute BUST!

  33. RaiderChile says: Aug 25, 2009 9:15 PM

    Good for the Niners for not putting up with this guy. So glad the Raiders past on him or the NFL fan base would be all over them for not signing. Would be funny if he was picked up by the Raiders in the 2010 draft!!!

  34. SEANJOHN says: Aug 25, 2009 9:23 PM

    Michael Crabtree Is a greedy punk and it is a sign of things to come with him BABY T.O

  35. windex666 says: Aug 25, 2009 9:24 PM

    Rashaun Woods was drafted 31st, yeah he was a first rounder, but not a top ten pick. I can name lots of guys picked 31st who were busts. To compare Woods to Crabtree is stupid. Smoking too much outdoor bammer in Humbolt.

  36. meezle says: Aug 25, 2009 9:27 PM

    For those that says he hasn’t done anything he has. He worked hard to get where he was.
    Now I don’t agree with the holdout, but I guess he’s just trying to avoid an boldin situation.
    He is kinda dumb tho

  37. protect1sself says: Aug 25, 2009 9:32 PM

    Crabtree must think he’s Jerry Rice. For ones who’s old enough to remember, Rice was booed his rookie year. He dropped balls, ran wrong routes, etc.
    And to think that Crabtree is the next Rice, well he can sit play video games and flip burgers for minimum wage. Cause if he does wait until next years draft one, he won’t be top 10. Two, hopefully there’s a rookie wage scale. And three, I can see him being an UNDRAFTED FA. and he’ll make league minimum money as a rookie.
    Good luck Mike, you’ll need it……..Dumba$$

  38. smokindoggies says: Aug 25, 2009 9:37 PM

    Crabtree will sign when games begin because that’s when he starts losing money. This is obviously too predictable, and his agent knows it. They’re not talking because the niners offered fair money (20% of last years #10 from what I understand), and everyone knows he’ll sign when games start. All he ends up doing is looking like the diva idiot he is. You know, Terrell Owens was a very nice kid for about 2 years…ugh!
    And the only reason Hill isn’t getting credit is because he lacks the arm strength and physical tools of the big name QB’s. But ever since the world over looked Kurt Warner it obvious that the coaches and experts really don’t know how to evaluate a QB. If through training camp they can’t tell. Winning happens in a game. Hills a proven winner, and that’s all you can say until proven otherwise.

  39. wrath4771 says: Aug 25, 2009 9:37 PM

    The Niners can be excited they play the Rams twice a year.
    As for Crabtree, if he wa ssilly enough to sit the year I bet he goes in round 4 of the 2010 draft.

  40. Humboldt420 says: Aug 25, 2009 9:40 PM

    windex666 says:
    August 25, 2009 9:24 PM
    Rashaun Woods was drafted 31st, yeah he was a first rounder, but not a top ten pick. I can name lots of guys picked 31st who were busts. To compare Woods to Crabtree is stupid. Smoking too much outdoor bammer in Humbolt.
    ——————————————————————
    The “bammer” is quite good in Humboldt, but that’s besides the point.
    I disagree with the comparison being “stupid”. It’s legit.
    Let’s compare Woods and Crabtree:
    Woods: 6-foot-2, 202 pounds, college career: 293 receptions, 4,414 yards and 42 touchdowns.
    Crabtree: 6-foot-1, 210 pounds, college career, 231 receptions, 3,127 yards, 41 touchdowns.
    Both were outstanding athletes in the spread formations each school ran (Woods – Oklahoma State), (Crabtree – Texas Tech). And both faced very little legitimate corner backs in the Big 12 during their playing careers.
    I’m a die-hard Niner fan and it’s sad to see the state Crabtree is in.

  41. CutlerIsACryBaby says: Aug 25, 2009 9:50 PM

    descendency says:
    August 25, 2009 7:37 PM
    In the seventh round… The 49ers select Michael Crabtree.
    LOL!!!

  42. ppdoc13 says: Aug 25, 2009 10:37 PM

    To even consider sitting out and wasting a year hoping to be drafted higher is so foolish it is laughable. Given what he has shown as a poor personality, what team would even take him in the top 10.
    Hey Mikey – you were drafted below DHB. Suck it up and prove that you are better. Bank you millions in guarantees and STFU. We the morons that buy the PSL’s and seats to watch your dumba$$ play a game don’t find your current actions funny or warranted. Just stupid, narcissistic, and anti-team.
    Or maybe you should go flip burgers, or work a construction job to see what it is like to have to budget and pay bills instead of having money thrown at you for having achieved nothing.

  43. east96st says: Aug 25, 2009 10:52 PM

    touchdowntrabo says: “but having a coach that COMMANDS respect from each and every person he meets? It’s not just posturing gentlemen, this is a legitimate leader with control and respect of a locker room.”
    Really? You think dropping his pants and showing his ass to a group of grown men grants him control and respect? I would have thought all the respect he earned as a player vanished the moment he used his bare ass as a rallying point. “Win one for my ass” doesn’t strike me as particularly inspirational.

  44. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Aug 25, 2009 11:13 PM

    # descendency says: August 25, 2009 7:37 PM
    In the seventh round… The 49ers select Michael Crabtree.
    =========================================
    I think I would seriously die laughing if that actually came to fruition. Can you see it? I think the rumblings of laughter would reach such a level that they could be heard from the moon. You’ve given me a new outcome to hope for come next year’s draft, if he actually goes through with it. If I were the Niners, I would do that just for the history of it!

  45. shake&bake says: Aug 25, 2009 11:18 PM

    To sum up the niners winning tradition…. before Joe Montana didn’t do squat. After Joe Montana haven’t done squat so unless he is gonna make a comeback that’s about all you have to talk about is the good ol Joe days and the great crabtree Shaun hill says to come. Ha ha ha enjoy the seventh losing season in a row

  46. StevieMo says: Aug 26, 2009 12:02 AM

    epping16:
    Yo, Rabbit Ears, what do you do? Keep a log of who says what on here? That’s hilarious. I never know who says what. I just read the comments.
    You don’t like what I have to say about the crappy Niners. Tough darts, big guy. The facts are on my side. They suck, and they’ll suck this year, too.
    The Yorks run one of the worst organizations in sports. Deal with it.

  47. Mullester says: Aug 26, 2009 12:09 AM

    NO comparison between Woods and Crabtree yeah the numbers are the same, but with Woods playing in 45 games to Crabtree’s 25.

  48. PhD says: Aug 26, 2009 12:44 AM

    # StevieMo says: August 25, 2009 7:38 PM
    I don’t know what is funnier — Crapgreed thinking he’s the best player in the draft or the 49ers fan on here (who, BTW, admits he wears panties) who is excited about another 5-11 season for SF.
    As a die-hard NFL fan who lives in the Bay Area, my observation is that 49ers fans are excited because Singletary says things like, “We’re gonna punch you in the mouth” and crap like that and they think that’s all that’s required to win games. Yeah, like no one’s ever thought of THAT in the NFL before.
    San Francisco: 7 straight losing seasons, zero quarterbacks (again), no additions to the thin and less-than-talented offensive and defensive lines, yet another head coach with zero head coaching experience and the worst management in the NFL (York, York, Marathe, McCloughan), save for possibly Oakland.
    Your panties will be twisting real soon, big fella.
    LOL, having had my laugh, I think we *may* all be pleasantly surprised this season.

  49. MasterShake says: Aug 26, 2009 1:15 AM

    Peter King should change his name to just “Norm” (from Cheers). It fits him better.
    Who does Crabapple think he is? Elway?

  50. FumbleNuts says: Aug 26, 2009 2:00 AM

    The CB’s in this league will stick to Crabfoot like stink on sh*t……. Bank on it!

  51. Ike Huminspurts says: Aug 26, 2009 9:10 AM

    Per league rules, the 49ers would not be allowed to draft Crabtree if he entered into 2010 Draft. It is to keep a franchise from sitting on said players’ ability to earn a living by begrudgingly drafting him and not working out a contract again.

  52. Junior says: Aug 26, 2009 9:57 AM

    Not sure why guys like Touchdowntrabo are defending Craptree so much. The only thing he’s done for the 9ers is open the door for all this hating. In truth, it’s not the 9ers fault at all and it shouldn’t reflect poorly on the organization. I would venture a guess that had the Raiders taken him at #7, he would be holding out for top 5 money.
    Maybe he just doesn’t want to play for a team that has a recent history of losing. If that’s the case, good for the 9ers and I hope they stick it to him. Tired of these guys thinking they deserve anything before proving themselves in the NFL. Sure he had great college stats, but that doesn’t always translate to the NFL. The 9ers should wait until week 1 and if he hasn’t signed offer him the league minimum. This crap wouldn’t be happening if there wasn’t a history of teams caving. Guys like Elway and Eli Manning making demands like they should get a choice of who they play for is ridiculous.
    And Touchdowntrabo, “Good Shutdown Corner?” Not if he gets beat like he did last week.

  53. finsbooyah says: Aug 26, 2009 10:42 AM

    Child please, Crabtree is a fool. He was never Calvin Johnson, or even Keyshawn Johnson for that matter, while he was in college. Now he thinks he can command a ridiculous money because HE thinks he deserved to be the 1st WR picked in the draft??? 9 teams passed on you Michael, get a grip on reality. He may end up being a good player, but the early indication is that he has “BUST” written all over him.

  54. touchdowntrabo says: Aug 26, 2009 11:55 AM

    Junior says: August 26, 2009 9:57 AM
    Not sure why guys like Touchdowntrabo are defending Craptree so much.
    —-
    I’m not defending him at all, the point of my original post was to show that although I have always shown disdain for players that hold out, this one really hasn’t upset me at all.
    I guess I just view it as part of the process.

  55. bloodystupidjohnson says: Aug 26, 2009 12:02 PM

    Remember when the TCU coach call Manigini a moron for not taking kid.

  56. barleyfreak says: Aug 26, 2009 2:24 PM

    “Win one for my ass” doesn’t strike me as particularly inspirational.
    Ya, but have you seen his ass?
    Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

  57. barleyfreak says: Aug 26, 2009 2:30 PM

    As someone said above, he will sign before the first game. Bank on it.
    He will also get worked into some games and show some flashes of greatness along with some fumbles and dropped passes. Fans will boo him when he stumbles, and cheer when he does something good.
    As fans, we’re awfully predictable.

  58. kurtismantronik says: Aug 26, 2009 11:14 PM

    Dear Michael Crabtree,
    Re-enter the draft and NOT ruin your career? Who do you think you are…me? Pitch Blease!
    Sincerely,
    Bo Jackson.

  59. elchano says: Aug 26, 2009 11:15 PM

    TO MICHAEL CRABTREE:
    You know that normal people need three lives to earn that amount of money that you are talking about. Fuc….. as…. , stop cry and start to play, show yourself in the field and after that ask for your money.

  60. DAVID says: Aug 27, 2009 10:10 AM

    I watched Crabtree at Texas Tech last fall, and even though he was a great college player, he has yet to PROVE himself in the NFL!!! I am a firm believer that you DO NOT pay these kids an enormous amount of money their first year (rookie) year BEFORE they can show that they belong in the league. Sometimes it is their agent who causes these problems, but not always. He was a tenth round pick, come on. All he is doing his hurting himself!

  61. Redengold says: Aug 27, 2009 4:29 PM

    GUARENTEED….. if Craptree renters the draft next year, NO owner would draft him in the first round. If they did, they would set precedence and slit their own throats because then these unproven rookies would hold out every year!
    ROOKIE SALARY CAP is needed.

  62. epping16 says: Aug 27, 2009 8:14 PM

    StevieHOmo: You can call people names? wow your big! Fact is your still too big of a puss to say who your team is! And I remember you cause the other day when the 49ers announced Shaun HIll would be the QB you put a bunch of crap on there that had no truth to it. And then you have ran off the same thing about the last 7 years on like 4 different post in the last week. You would think maybe you would be interested in what your teams doing or at least comment on the topic at hand

  63. cgc1969 says: Aug 27, 2009 11:21 PM

    Crabtree should of stayed in college for 2 more years, what’s the rush to enter the draft anyway.
    I think there should be a rule where a player can enter the draft after their senior season. plus there should be a rookie salary cap for first round draft picks, especially for QB where there
    are the most draft busts of all time. Crabtree should be happy to take what he can get. The 49ers made a mistake drafting him. The Oakland raiders did the right thing by passing up on Crabtree, this guy looks like a jerk and acts like a jerk!

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