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Schaub says there were "definitely signs" that Vick didn't work hard

In his interview with James Brown of CBS, Eagles quarterback Mike Vick admitted that he didn’t work as hard as he could/should have during the first phase of his NFL career, with the Atlanta Falcons.

Texans quarterback Matt Schaub, who was traded by the Falcons to Houston weeks before authorities tripped over a remake of 101 Dalmatians (without the Dalmatians) on Vick’s rural Virginia property, has confirmed Vick’s observations.

Said Schaub, on Wednesday’s edition of The Dan Patrick Show:  “There were definitely signs of that.  He’s such a 
phenomenal athlete.  No matter what happened on the field, he could
always overcome it with his athleticism.  That was always his fall-back.”

We prefer to think of it as a crutch.  When the pocket started to crumble, Vick routinely relied on his uncanny ability to escape the pressure and then gain yardage.  He never developed the patience required of a pocket passer because he rarely stayed in the pocket.  He rarely stayed in the pocket because he knew he was far more likely to make something out of nothing with his legs than with his arm.

But if Vick had spent more time working on his weaknesses, he could have become one of the best quarterbacks of all time.

Schaub first noticed Vick’s habits as a rookie, but Schaub opted to say nothing.  “I’m a rookie, what do I know?”

Later, Schaub realized it was a problem.  “It got to that point, in my second or
third year, where guys took more notice of it,” Schaub said.

Schaub said he eventually tried to encourage Vick to put in more time at practice or studying film.  “You can only say so much to someone until a light clicks in their
brain,” Schaub said.

For Vick, it never clicked.  Supposedly, it now has.  And we’re all waiting for proof that the light is indeed on.

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50 Responses to “Schaub says there were "definitely signs" that Vick didn't work hard”
  1. Outsyder says: Aug 26, 2009 3:13 PM

    Geez, the guy already admitted he didn’t work hard.
    Quit beating the drum, Florio.

  2. mwiles19 says: Aug 26, 2009 3:14 PM

    I guess we’ll see.

  3. Desides says: Aug 26, 2009 3:15 PM

    Vick didn’t work hard? No sh!t. It was obvious on the field.

  4. FireStarter says: Aug 26, 2009 3:16 PM

    Rename the site : Profootballtalkaboutmikevick.com

  5. theblowedone says: Aug 26, 2009 3:18 PM

    Great point outsyder. How in the world this is news is beyond me. Vick himself is the first to say he didn’t put in any extra work at all. Funny thing is Schaub is runnin his mouth about how Vick didnt work hard yet he was still better than Schaub will ever be!

  6. kjl451 says: Aug 26, 2009 3:20 PM

    101 Dalmation remake? wow. classify that one under EPIC bombs.
    You have a cricket riding a tumbleweed there, Florio.

  7. Alpheratz says: Aug 26, 2009 3:21 PM

    “tried to encourage Vick to put more time in at practice”
    That strikes me as hilarious.
    Guess I’m a hater again.

  8. TheDPR says: Aug 26, 2009 3:21 PM

    He worked hard establishing an interstate gambling ring during that same time period. He didn’t have time to study film.
    I still can’t get over the league fighting Delaware over sports betting when they let this illegal gambling ring operator back into the league. Makes no sense whatsoever.

  9. rcunningham says: Aug 26, 2009 3:23 PM

    Florio, do you have a boner for the term “crutch”?

  10. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Aug 26, 2009 3:24 PM

    “But if Vick had spent more time working on his weaknesses, he could have become one of the best quarterbacks of all time.”
    Um… doubtful. What a stupid thing to say. He may have become one of the best option QBs of all time but he would still be more than a stones throw from one of the best QBs of all time, no matter how hard he practiced. He lacks accuracy in his passing, which is a whole lot more difficult to overcome than a lack of patience in the pocket. What is with you Florio? Ever since you signed with NBC you have been making these really stupid statements and editing your writing at a fifth grade level. Fix the typos and stop making such ludicrous statements.

  11. Hap says: Aug 26, 2009 3:24 PM

    “One of the best qb’s of all time”? Oh, it’s Michael Montana/Staubach/Brady Vick” you’re talking about. He wasn’t tall enough to see over a big OL.He wasn’t, nor did he want to be, a pocket passer. He was great at hitting bigger targets (see his old TE). I don’t think so.
    I think he’d be a great rb in space.

  12. Steeler4life says: Aug 26, 2009 3:25 PM

    Florio,
    You guys must look at us like piranha. You throw your BS in the blog and we just chew it up.
    Who gives a crap what Schaub thinks? Vick was the last one into work and the first one home. Schaub still couldn’t get on the field. With the Texans, his ass is always hurt. Rosenfeld should have taken his job.
    Besides Vick already admitted this. What are you trying to prove. If he puts in all this extra time, you will be complaining about how he needs to spend some time kissing up to all the Animal Groups. Just admit he can’t win with you.

  13. EskinSux says: Aug 26, 2009 3:25 PM

    “You can only say so much to someone until a light clicks in their brain,” Schaub said.”
    ———————————————-
    It’s fairly obvious he doesn’t have a brain…….

  14. barking mad says: Aug 26, 2009 3:29 PM

    well damn shaub said it, we should totally talk about that for a while cause that’s news.

  15. dawk20db says: Aug 26, 2009 3:29 PM

    I’m very pround of you Florio. I expected the last line to be more like this:
    “For Vick, it never clicked. Supposedly, it has now. If it has, look for hell to freeze over real soon.”
    It’s a new Florio with a new open mind!

  16. bluelion says: Aug 26, 2009 3:31 PM

    The more I read about Vick, the more I understand what a wonderful human being he is.
    A shining example to be emulated by youth everywhere.

  17. killachap says: Aug 26, 2009 3:31 PM

    Hey Florio, I am going to defend you from the numerous people who are going to give you crap about this post. This is something said today from a very credible source on the matter making it newsworthy. Also I will point out that you did admit that if he had just worked on the negatives that he could have been the best QB ever which indicates that there is no obvious hatred that many will claim.

  18. edogma says: Aug 26, 2009 3:31 PM

    Your Vick stuff is getting old.

  19. Mik says: Aug 26, 2009 3:35 PM

    I think Mike Florio is a joke, he reminds me of a school yard bully alway’s starting trouble. Where do you dream up your stories in the mens room?

  20. Display Name says: Aug 26, 2009 3:36 PM

    For Vick, it never clicked. Supposedly, it now has. And we’re all waiting for proof that the light is indeed on.
    ==============================
    Come on Toad, move on (or move out). When there’s ‘headlines’ then talk about Vick, otherwise you just make yourself look like an even bigger toad than you otherwise might be.

  21. Dr. Michael says: Aug 26, 2009 3:36 PM

    He worked hard at killing dogs, systematically. Calling Tony Dungheap….

  22. empty13 says: Aug 26, 2009 3:38 PM

    “But if Vick had spent more time working on his weaknesses, he could have become one of the best quarterbacks of all time. ”
    in response, florio, to quote fidel castro… BOOLSHEET!
    vick was nevah evah evah going to be one of the best quarterbacks of all time.

  23. Vick's failed drug test says: Aug 26, 2009 3:42 PM

    Why couldn’t Vick have given Kazemi herpes.

  24. Hollywood says: Aug 26, 2009 3:45 PM

    “Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless.”
    /s/ Kenny Powers

  25. hayward giablommi says: Aug 26, 2009 3:47 PM

    Jeez Matt- don’t you get it?
    The guy had his hands full- setting up rape stands, drowning and hanging dogs, hammering their teeth out…all the while trying to think of creative new ways to torture dogs. Think he had time to prepare for upcoming opponents?
    Come on now.

  26. hayward giablommi says: Aug 26, 2009 3:51 PM

    Vick’s failed drug test says:
    “Why couldn’t Vick have given Kazemi herpes.”
    ^^^^^
    How do you know he didn’t?

  27. jacemrva says: Aug 26, 2009 3:51 PM

    Vick may be a sorry excuse for a human being,but on his best days he was one of the most exciting players in NFL history. He took a team with a very mediocre receiving core to the NFC title game.
    Schaub’s record as a starter:10-14.

  28. tian says: Aug 26, 2009 3:51 PM

    Once again, didn’t Mike Vick already cover this?

  29. Steeler4life says: Aug 26, 2009 3:52 PM

    @killapup
    Schaub a credible source. How about Vick being a credible source. He already admitted it. That is old news. He ought to be embarrassed not to have gotten on the field.
    Romo works hard. He doesn’t help him come playoff time. You didn’t even make the playoffs last year.
    There you go with your Devry Institure logic again.

  30. killachap says: Aug 26, 2009 3:53 PM

    @ Steeler
    Schaub is a better QB than little Ben. Ben has just been blessed with one of the best defenses ever assembled.
    Obviously I don’t mean that, but I had to push a button

  31. Agent Michael Scarn says: Aug 26, 2009 3:54 PM

    He didn’t need to stay in the pocket because he could pick up first downs with his feet. That’s what made him a great quarterback, why try and turn him into something he’s not

  32. Alpheratz says: Aug 26, 2009 3:56 PM

    Christ, why don’t all you guys who piss and moan about Florio, just go back to your fantasy leagues and give it a rest.
    Nobody wants to hear that shit month after month.
    Busting on Florio lost it’s humor a long time ago.
    Go away.

  33. DoomsDayD75 says: Aug 26, 2009 3:58 PM

    Schaub: Hey Mike, want me to show you how to read a defense or throw a pass?
    Vick: No, want to come drink Petron and kill dogs?
    Schaub: ….no.

  34. jkidd49 says: Aug 26, 2009 4:00 PM

    A credible source…. VICK ALREADY SAID HE DIDNT WORK HARD. Why do we need another credible source? Florio is a hack, he knows people will respond, and thats all he cares about. This isnt new’s its just another BLOG from someone with an axe to grind.

  35. Gallagher says: Aug 26, 2009 4:12 PM

    @killachap
    So by your defense, it would be newsworthy for James Brown to come out this week and say that Vick never practiced hard, and then for Florio to post it as news?
    There is no hatred, just simply the matter of beating a dead horse (insert pit bull here for all you Vick haters). Maybe he should report that Antonio Pierce came out and admitted that Plax shot himself in the leg with an unregistered gun? Because by your definition, that would be newsworthy, because it is from a credible source?
    –Gallagher, a proud member of the “dirtiest fans”
    GO BIRDS!!

  36. danlinker says: Aug 26, 2009 4:12 PM

    Another FLorio article designed for hits. Much like with Favre articles (and I am a Favre fan), I will no longer comment on them. This will be my last comment on a Vick article. The only way to get FLorio to back off the obvious whore attempts at hits, you all have to follow suit.

  37. famucancer says: Aug 26, 2009 4:21 PM

    Dear Florio,
    You’re delusional, you’re delusional
    Boy you’re losing your mind
    It’s confusing yo, you’re confused you know
    Why you wasting your time
    Got you all fired up with your Napoleon complex
    Seeing right through you like you’re bathing in Windex
    Boy why you so obsessed with me?
    You on your job
    You hating hard
    Ain’t gon’ feed you
    I’m gonna let you starve
    Gasping for air
    I’m ventilation
    You out of breath
    Hope you ain’t waiting
    Telling the world how much you miss me
    But we never were
    So why you trippin’
    You a mom and pop
    I’m a corporation
    I’m the press conference
    And you a conversation
    Why you so obsessed with me (Boy I wanna know)
    Sincerely,
    MV7

  38. Golden_Monkey says: Aug 26, 2009 4:25 PM

    Don’t you have to be able to throw to “become one of the best quarterbacks of all time?” I’m just saying…..

  39. rusH1023 says: Aug 26, 2009 5:16 PM

    So do us all a favor and never come to this site again, Squealer4Life. F’n moron. Go cheer your gimpy, rapist QB some more.

  40. jimicos says: Aug 26, 2009 5:41 PM

    jacemrva says:
    August 26, 2009 3:51 PM
    Vick may be a sorry excuse for a human being,but on his best days he was one of the most exciting players in NFL history. He took a team with a very mediocre receiving core to the NFC title game.
    ————————–
    No, he took a bunch of highly drafted WRs and made them look mediocre. Amazingly, they all had their best years when Vick was not bouncing passes to them. Vick immediately downgrades his receivers.

  41. meezle says: Aug 26, 2009 5:55 PM

    Steeler4life nailed it,
    He worked half assed and keep schaub off the field.
    If I were schaub, I would’ve been embarrased to admit that.

  42. cliff says: Aug 26, 2009 5:59 PM

    Logged on and read for hears. thought this was a good site to get info regarding my team (Eagles) and others. Read all the comments about you having an agenda but never believed. I have to say know with all the Vick stuff and the dont jump on the Eagles wagon I truely believe you have one. It is the Eagles now, what will it be next time.
    You do know that you are the only person who does not believe the Eagles will have a good year with maybe the exception of Hogge.
    Be fair and consistant with your reporting, dont make things up or glorify the stories ie Vick drinking in public. I am wondering if you are drinking while you type your stories.

  43. dustylaker says: Aug 26, 2009 6:23 PM

    Hey Florio,
    Love your disgust of Vick. Pour it on Buddy.
    Did you know Philly had nearly 400 cases of busted dog fighting last year? Worst number of all cities of 200,000 people or more.
    And here you Vick lovers were thinking dog fighting is a particular Southern thing.
    A match made in hell.

  44. dustylaker says: Aug 26, 2009 6:29 PM

    Yo yo Vick suckas
    betca livin with u muthas
    talkin ghetto n all that
    bet u got coke glasses n fat.
    Jest a dog he tortured u say
    did you even graduate third grade?
    them dawgs smarter than u
    smarter than Vick too
    U all internet gangstas actin thug
    u be bad till mamma pull ur plug
    u ain’t thug, u whack
    thats the 411 on that.
    get a job

  45. Mr. Irrelevant says: Aug 26, 2009 6:42 PM

    Of all the people talking about “working hard” and lacking talent to play in the NFL, I don’t think Matt Schaub should be the one. The guy’s been on the bench (injured or uninjured) more than on the field in his entire career.

  46. J.Cannon says: Aug 26, 2009 7:36 PM

    Good Article

  47. empty13 says: Aug 26, 2009 8:59 PM

    interesting, laker…
    dogfighting is a black thing. maybe more in the south but… not stuff black people dont like.
    schaub didnt play much when they were both in atlanta because the locker room, coaches and owner wanted someone else to qb. they were enthralled with what turned out to be a lousy qb and a criminal jackass. i suspect he threw games too, latter half of 05 and 06. look at how promising seasons turned to crapola.
    while it may be a bit ludicrous just yet to say the minnehaha locker room wants t-jack not favre…. atlanta and n’awlins were behind vick and erring brooks.
    and we see how that worked out.

  48. Philtration says: Aug 26, 2009 9:35 PM

    Sounds like Vick was dogging it.

  49. Kidekk says: Aug 26, 2009 11:31 PM

    empty13 says:
    August 26, 2009 8:59 PM
    interesting, laker…
    dogfighting is a black thing. maybe more in the south but… not stuff black people dont like.
    schaub didnt play much when they were both in atlanta because the locker room, coaches and owner wanted someone else to qb. they were enthralled with what turned out to be a lousy qb and a criminal jackass. i suspect he threw games too, latter half of 05 and 06. look at how promising seasons turned to crapola.
    while it may be a bit ludicrous just yet to say the minnehaha locker room wants t-jack not favre…. atlanta and n’awlins were behind vick and erring brooks.
    and we see how that worked out.
    —————
    And there we have it: Subdued racism by the most racist guy on this whole site. Yet, I still believe that he is a black guy doing some sort of social experiment.

  50. jimicos says: Aug 27, 2009 1:04 PM

    Kidekk says:
    August 26, 2009 11:31 PM
    And there we have it: Subdued racism by the most racist guy on this whole site. Yet, I still believe that he is a black guy doing some sort of social experiment.
    —————————-
    If there’s a title for “most racist guy on this site” BlueEyeDevil is definitely in the running.

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