League adopts "do over" rule for Cowboys video board

In a memo sent to all teams, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell has announced a decision regarding potential collisions between the game ball and the video board at Cowboys stadium.

A league source tells us that the video board won’t be moved, and the “do over” rule will apply.

Specifically, if a ball strikes the video board, the play will be dead at that point and the down will be replayed from the previous spot.  No penalties will count, other than personal fouls.

Also, the clock will reset to the time reflected before the “do over.”  (And that makes sense; otherwise, a team with the lead could have told its punter to slam the ball into the video board over and over again.)

If the officials on the field don’t notice the ball striking the video board, the replay assistant will be empowered to trigger a replay review — even if the incident occurs outside the final two minutes of each half, the normal time period during which the replay assistant has the power to call upon the referee to assume the position at the portable replay booth.

And if the replay official doesn’t believe the ball struck the video board but the head coach of either team thinks otherwise, a red-flag challenge will be available.

As the source pointed out, there’s a hole in this rule.  If the incident happens with fewer than two minutes remaining in either half, and if the replay assistant doesn’t notice the collision, the coaches might not be able to challenge the outcome.

The memo indicates that the rule will apply for the balance of the 2009 season, including all remaining preseason games, all regular-season games, and any postseason games that might be played at the new venue.  Goodell cited Rule 3, Section 1 in taking the unconventional approach of altering the official playing rules beyond the normal offseason procedure for doing so.

The issue likely will be revisited after the season, and the resolution of the situation for 2010 surely will be influenced by the frequency with which the punting plays in Dallas evoke memories of the old “Breakout” video game.

Regardless, the powers-that-be need to be confident in the rules by next year.  Even if the Cowboys don’t earn any home playoff games in 2010, there’s one fairly significant postseason game that will be played at the new stadium in February 2011.

143 responses to “League adopts "do over" rule for Cowboys video board

  1. NOOOOOOO… that is BS… horrible choice by the league… How can a video board become a possible game changing obstacle

  2. Funny stuff. Hard to believe that a billion dollar operation like the Cowboys could screw something like this up so badly.

  3. You have got to be kidding! I guess Jones has the stones in the NFL. Can you imagine the Commish bending over and kissing ass for Cleveland or Detroit?
    Goodell’s rep just went into the toilet.

  4. Who said the AFL is dead? It’s alive and well in Dallas.
    What a joke. This is a Bud “Gilligan” Selig style move….

  5. Told you scrubs. The screens are placed within NFL regs. Not the first time this has happened, there’s a rule in place to deal with it, the onus is on the NFL to change the rule. Ergo anybody who has a problem with it, your problem is with the NFL.
    “As the source pointed out, there’s a hole in this rule. If the incident happens with fewer than two minutes remaining in either half, and if the replay assistant doesn’t notice the collision, the coaches might not be able to challenge the outcome.”
    Just like anything else that the replay assistant might miss.

  6. hahaha…..I think that everyone forgot how much pull Jerry has, he gets what he wants because like it or not the Cowboys generate more revenue than 90% of the other teams in the NFL, period. End of story.

  7. Is Goodell crazy? This is insane. I hope every punter in the league who plays in that stadium hits that scoreboard every time. Keep doing it over and over and over delaying the game until people watching on tv change the channel. I know my boy Shane Lectler will have no problem hitting it anytime he wants to. Hit it, then do over. Hit it, then do over. Hit it, then do over. All in consecutive punts. Eventually, the NFL will wake up and raise the scoreboard.

  8. WHAT-A-JOKE. this is ridiculous. move the damn scoreboard/tv. i cant believe they arent moving that frigin thing. Hey Roger, ummm, i thought you were tough? What, did Jerry’s messed up looking botox face scare you into saying yes? unbelievable. i see what you are roger- hypocrite. you can stand up to the players and be a tough guy, but you buckle when the owners pump up their chests? your a douche.

  9. This is the Dallas Cowboys stadium we are talking about so we don’t have to worry about any postseason games being played there.

  10. Wouldn’t that low scoreboard affect the punter’s ability to get the most hang time on his punts? The hang time on a punt allows the punt team to get down the field and cover the return more effectively. Doesn’t that violate a rule somewhere?

  11. This is a complete disgrace. The do over rule would also apply to a pass that hits the board. As a QB any time I need to throw it away I’m aiming for that bad boy to get a free play.
    Sickening.

  12. Id coach my punter to hit it as many times as humanly possible in order embarrass Jerry Jones, the Cowboys Organization, and the NFL.
    Whats next, part of this thing collapses and paralyses some one?
    Thats what you get for cutting corners Jerry…

  13. This is RIDICULOUS!
    The board currently doesn’t function at a height other than 90’… try connecting the wiring with a FLEXIBLE DROP you morons! This would allow the board to be used at higher heights for games, and lower heights for other events. How cool would the U2 concert be with the board turned-on?
    The players get it, why doesn’t the NFL? “We can’t have games going on for three and a half hours because we’re re-kicking all the time,” said receiver/punt returner Patrick Crayton.

  14. A “do-over” ? Haha. That’s a good one, Florio.
    But seriously, what are they REALLY going to do about this?

  15. “(We think the clock will be re-set as well; we’re in the process of confirming that fairly important detail. It wouldn’t be a true “do over” if potentially critical seconds were permitted to evaporate.)”
    It’s not gonna happen, Mike. Doesn’t happen when the ball hits any other obstructions like cameras on the goal post.

  16. That is kinda of crappy. Teams might use this towards their advantage, maybe for an extra timeout. Maybe if the kicking team had only 10 people on the field a coach at the last second could signal his punter to hit the jumbo tron instead of using a timeout. Just seems that everything should be universal and fair in every stadium throughout the league. This isn’t baseball!!!

  17. I look forward to the Raiders’ Shane Lechler playing at Dallas and hitting it 15 times in a row. That will drive the point home.

  18. what are the ramifications on the clock when it hits the board? does the clock reset to where it was before the play started or does the clock continue from whre the ball hit the screen? If it continues from where it hits the screen, you could run out the clock at the end of the half or game by punting a few times into the screen similar to what Wisconsin did a few years ago against Penn State on kickoffs to run out the clock

  19. HAHAHAHa haters! The scordeboard is leagally placed 10ft higher than required by the league. What part of that dont you morons get?

  20. This is nuts, just move the thing. Jerry has more money than god but wont spring for the 2 mill to get the board raised. You cant take it with you jerry, pull the trigger.
    Go Cowboys!!!

  21. The more I think about it, I’m guessing this could have a huge impact on pooch punts. Think about it – if you’re kicking from your own 30, you’ll kick at a shallow angle to get distance. If you have a normal sized scoreboard (15-20 yards accross) hanging at mid-field, it’d be in no danger of getting hit. If you’re kicking from mid field, though, you’d want to kick the ball as high as possible to allow the gunners time to get to the goal line and down the ball before it rolls into the end zone. That’s probably why the league only specified an 85 foot minimum height for scoreboards – they never expected the damn things to reach all the way the 20.

  22. I love how all the Cowboy homers e.g. “VoxVeritas” support this low hanging jumbo tron, when everyone else sees how ridiculous it is. It’s one thing to support your team but you don’t have to support bad stadium designs just because it’s your favorite teams playing field.

  23. This is so incredibly stupid that it is hard to believe. First, it is stupid that Jones would not know this would be an issue. Any moron should have seen this coming. Second, for the league to not see the holes in their response demonstrates a real lack of common sense. This is a true embarrassment, but then Jones has been an embarrassment from day one, so this shouldn’t be a surprise.

  24. This is absolutely dumb! That’s the only word to describe it. The MULTI BILLION DOLLAR empire which is the NFL should foot the bill and move the damn thing. Average punts won’t hit it, but say a punter is having the game of his life and booming 60-70 yard punts every time, but still hits the scoreboard. They are being penalized because the NFL is too stupid to realize how high punts go and because that redneck hillbilly Jerruh needed a screen big enough to fit his big fat, botox filled, pulled back head on there? Give me a damn break. What a damn disgrace!!

  25. “I look forward to the Raiders’ Shane Lechler playing at Dallas and hitting it 15 times in a row. That will drive the point home.”
    It’ll just wear his leg out, gas your gunners and make for an easy PR for a TD. Get over it. They’re the freaking Raiders, nobody cares about them anyway.

  26. VoxVeritas says: August 28, 2009 9:59 AM
    “Told you scrubs. The screens are placed within NFL regs. Not the first time this has happened, there’s a rule in place to deal with it, the onus is on the NFL to change the rule. Ergo anybody who has a problem with it, your problem is with the NFL.”
    Haha, what a load of crap Vox. Kind of surprising coming from you given the conservative bent you’ve shown, then again you are known to defend all things Cowboys related. Bottom line is it’s a douchebag move, Jerry knows it and so does everyone else involved. The fact that the NFL is culpable in this does nothing to alleviate Jerry from blame for pulling the dick move to begin with. Anything that forces a rule to be written to change it, that is consciously done knowing the effect it will have (Jerry himself said he did tons of research on it) is a textbook douche move. But hey this guy started off his career as owner by canning a legend through the Newspaper and has followed it up with numerous moves just as distasteful and classless. Douche moves are his M.O. at this point.

  27. @killapup
    You can’t be serious. This takes away from the integrity of the game. This is professional football not sandlot or the kind that you and Richard Simmons play in the dark. You are the moron if you think the “do-over” makes sense.
    But like jonboy stated
    At least they don’t have to worry about this affecting any postseason games.

  28. So I guess Fisher doesn’t have as much pull as he thought he did hahaha probably had to fess up that he told that scrub punter to try to hit it. That’s part of what makes them the Titans, I guess.

  29. “I know my boy Shane Lectler will have no problem hitting it anytime he wants to.”
    Your boy? You can’t even spell his name!

  30. THIS IS A CROCK OF &%$#!!!
    So, the NFL gets rid of the wedge on kickoffs because of the risk of injury, BUT they will make special teams guys run full force down the field, only to have a “do over?” Way to cave.

  31. If I was a coach I’d have my punters start practicing hitting that thing every time we played there and would plan on using it to my advantage in the game. It stops the game clock if nothing else.

  32. How cool would the U2 concert be with the board turned-on?
    …………………………………………………………………………………
    Actually not cool at all, in any way, shape or form. The only thing that would make s “U2” concert cool would be if all of the sound equipment broke at the same time while the big screen is playing a Megan Fox Playboy video for her first ever nude shoot.

  33. Goodell caves into the ego of Jerry Jones instead of supporting the integrity of the game. Now a freakin’ scoreboard carries more weight in a games outcome than do the players themselves. this decision ranks right up there with something the drug kingpin of MLB would do….move over Bud Selig you have company in the name of Rodger the “dodger” Goodell. All this so Jerry can admire his big scoreboard….it doesn’t get any better than this. this should make the “News of the Weird” Facelifts are great for Jerry but not for his precious new stadium. Goodell your recent decisions…Vick, reducing suspensions, scoreboard are all proof that you are not the commish we thought but just a puppet to the rich owners.

  34. So are they going to have a special camera looking at just punting. Not sure the side tv cameras will capture a view if the ball hits the underside of the screen. Just seems like this is going to be an annoying issue for some teams this year. What stops a team from kicking the screen over and over again just to protest? This would of course ruin the game.

  35. “That’s why I hate the Cowboys and Jerruh Jones. ”
    Because they’re more relevant than the Steelers and Dan Rooney? Really man have you even looked at the Steelers stadium lately? If they can play in that monstrous ketchup bowl with the gigantic ketchup bottles that simulate pouring ketchup all over your stupid lowbrow asses when they score as if you were an order of fries, why can’t the Cowboys have a state-of-the-art stadium that meets NFL regulations without drawing your hate?

  36. Ok Devil’s advocate here for a second even though I already said it was a weak move…
    no use comparing a rule being changed like the wedge that they do through offseason rules committees, this is something that came up late and wasn’t there to be voted on before (NFL’s culpability enters in that they had the plans long ago and should have raised a beef then). So it looks like the NFL isn’t done with this and no Fisher didn’t lose technically, they just can’t really deal with it until offseason (hence the reference to rule 3 section 1).
    I still say it’s a cave though and that not many but Jerry would be raising hell if Goodell called an emergency meeting of the rules committee and they dealt with it now before any regular season games are played there.

  37. You guys are so funny!
    It’s not like anything the NFL does will impact your life. Are you losing part of your salary over this? Are they going to take your birthday away over this?
    First of all, everybody hates the winner. Fact of life. Unless you are the winner.
    Secondly, if your boss said I want you to move your office over there, then, after you do all of the moving and get settled in he says, well, that’s not far enough. Move it again, and on your own time. . . How would you feel?
    Hey, they complied with the rules.
    They’ll probably change the required height in the off-season, and the NFL will pay to help move the screen.
    Quit your whining about it… geeeze!

  38. Obviously it is cheaper to handle it with a rule than to pay to have it moved up. The NFL screwed up and doesn’t want to pay to have it moved. Jones is digging in his heels and refusing to pay because he built it according to the rules. Really this is all on the NFL, but Jones and the NFL should come to an agreement and have it moved up. That is the best solution for the game. As tough as Goodell has been on other issues, he has caved to a ego manic owner that thinks he and his new stadium are bigger than the game. In the grand scheme of things, 2 million dollars to move it is nothing. Jerry, be a man and help keep the integrity of the game intact. MOVE IT UP!

  39. I’ve played music my whole life, I’ve played football, baseball and basketball. I’ve worked in an office atmosphere for the past 12 years. I’ve been through and seen a lot-a lot I didn’t need to see too. Just once in my life I would like to see someone in charge, supervisor, manager, owner whomever despite their status, wealth and power just get their head out of their ass and use common f#*k!ng sense and do something right and not because they can get away with it. Jerry-you built it wrong, stop being an arrogant asshole and raise the f#*k!ng video board…………….just can’t stand to be wrong can you-that’s why the Cowboys are always helter skelter just like you.

  40. “The board currently doesn’t function at a height other than 90’… try connecting the wiring with a FLEXIBLE DROP you morons! This would allow the board to be used at higher heights for games, and lower heights for other events. How cool would the U2 concert be with the board turned-on?”
    Uhh it’s got a flexible drop. Don’t believe the hype that it can’t function higher than 90ft. Of course it can’t function if they unplug it. They’re in the process of motorizing it so it can be raised and lowered at the flick of a switch and I assume that’s why Jones was adamant about leaving it as it is. U2 has their own bad-ass video board. Check it out.
    http://360.u2.com/

  41. The NFL knows that they can’t do anything unless they foot the bill. The costs would not just include raising the board, but most likely Jerry will add other costs since the board is where he wants it. Remember, the NFL signed off on the position of the board where it is now. Jerry just has to show the paperwork with the signature of the NFL, and he wins. It’s really pretty simple.

  42. U gotta be kiddin me!!! why doesent everybody get a life and relax!! why dont we wait and see i would not be suprised if over the course of the season this proves to be a non issue!!! calm down…..

  43. “You can’t be serious. This takes away from the integrity of the game.”
    Not as much as salary cap cheating and steroid abuse do, but whatever.

  44. @ Vox:
    You can spin this any way you like, but bottom line is that it’s a black eye for Jerruh and the ‘boys.
    Maybe the league dropped the ball for not reevaluating the specs of how high it needed to be when the design was unveiled, and maybe Roger Goodell is a spineless puppet, but every time there is a “do-over” this year, you can bet the camera is going to be panning to the owner’s box to see Jerruh’s expression. Who knows, maybe that’s what he wants.
    But if there is more than a dozen do-over this year, you better believe that the board is going to be moved up up up next year whether Jerruh likes it or not.

  45. QUESTION.
    What happens if say… Shane Lechler because of where he is punting from hits it 5, 6, 7 times in a row?
    He would not only be wearing his leg out but in fact RISKING INJURY by…
    A). being forced to punt repeatedly.
    B). being run into by the opposing team.
    ALSO, what happens to a team that goes to punt, it hit’s the board and the very next time they go to punt the opponents special teams blocks the punt and recovers the Ball!!?!!
    The NFL is run by MORONS.

  46. mbbrazi=== listen im not a jerry fan but it as u say was built wrong who is at fault?? since the nfl gave him specs to follow (85 ft.) and he added 5 to that how can anyone say this is his fault!!!

  47. NFL approved the height, why the hate…oh yeah b/c your scared of the star…be afraid haters, be very afraid!

  48. “Haha, what a load of crap Vox. Kind of surprising coming from you given the conservative bent you’ve shown, then again you are known to defend all things Cowboys related. Bottom line is it’s a douchebag move, Jerry knows it and so does everyone else involved.”
    If anything it’s gotta be a douchebag non-move.
    “The fact that the NFL is culpable in this”
    Culpable? Are you gonna sue? Why are you getting so worked up over one nameless scrub punter that was trying to hit it?
    “does nothing to alleviate Jerry from blame for pulling the dick move to begin with. Anything that forces a rule to be written to change it, that is consciously done knowing the effect it will have (Jerry himself said he did tons of research on it) is a textbook douche move.”
    Haven’t you been following along? The boards were placed as NFL regs dictate. Yes, there is a rule governing minimum height of overhead obstructions. It’s 85 feet. The screens actually exceed the NFL’s minimum limit. The rules have to be changed to bring it out of compliance. Use your brain.
    “But hey this guy started off his career as owner by canning a legend through the Newspaper and has followed it up with numerous moves just as distasteful and classless. Douche moves are his M.O. at this point.”
    Wow, you don’t even understand the issue but you’re going off about it like an old woman. You don’t give a damn about what’s right, you just want to see the NFL stick it to Jerry Jones when all he did was follow the rules. That makes YOU the douchebag in the equation.

  49. “If I was a coach I’d have my punters start practicing hitting that thing every time”
    Obviously, you’d be a terrible coach.

  50. What’s the over/under on the amount of punts and passes that will hit the board during the 8 regular season games?
    As previously mentioned, no worries about playoff games this year in Dallas.

  51. @Vox
    How are the Cowboys and Jerruh Jones more relevant than the Steelers and Dan Rooney? Dan Rooney has owned the most successful and admired organization in the professional sports industry. Dan Rooney is an US Ambassador.
    Jerry Jones screwed an organization that I used to respect but never liked. Plus he looks like Joan Rivers. Where’s the relevance?
    @cowgirlfan40
    You stated that everyone hates a winner.
    I don’t understand how your statement relates to the Cowboys. When was the last time the Cowboys won anything?

  52. # LCCJ says: August 28, 2009 10:49 AM
    NFL approved the height, why the hate…oh yeah b/c your scared of the star…be afraid haters, be very afraid!
    Nobody has been scared of the Cowboys since the triplets. Get over it dude…

  53. NFL approved the height, why the hate…oh yeah b/c your scared of the star…be afraid haters, be very afraid!
    ^^^^^^
    a.) Who is “afraid of the start”?
    and
    b.) Why would they be?

  54. Most punts and kick offs are angeled towards the corners so I doubt the score board/jumbo tron will come into effect much at all. There will be occations that it will and might need to be addressed after the season, but it is obvious that most of the objections to this new rule is coming from Jerry Jones/Cowboys haters. Relax and let it play out before making judgement calls.

  55. UNBELIEVABLY pathetic! Goodell’s on quite a spineless streak–first letting Vick back in and now this. This is such a joke–and I’m a Cowboys fan. They need to move that damned scoreboard out of the way.
    Goodell has cheapened the game so quickly, in so many ways. It’s rapidly becoming a circus now, with no sense, no morality, and no motive except for money.
    Disgusting.

  56. “Typical NFL. Protecting one of it’s favorite franchises and caving in to a loud-mouth owner.”
    How is it caving in? The thing was positioned to NFL standards!

  57. If Jerry Jones were black and the stadium was called ‘Death Row Records Stadium’ you can bet Goodell would make him move the damn thing.
    Goodell is a bigit.

  58. “Goodell your recent decisions…Vick, reducing suspensions, scoreboard are all proof that you are not the commish we thought but just a puppet to the rich owners.”
    Well duh, he does work for the owners and he serves at their pleasure, meaning they can fire him anytime they want to. The stupidity of the average NFL fan never ceases to amaze me.

  59. I think it’s kinda stupid than an obstruction can have bearing on the outcome of a game, but it’s the NFL and money is involved, and they did build the stadium to specifications, it’s not an engineering or design flaw, they put the “grossly oversized television” within the spefications mandated by the league. I can’t stand the Cowboys, but this shouldn’t be their responsibility. And it makes no sense to argue that the clock won’t be reset and compare it to goal post cameras etc. How can they not reset the clock? Every stadium has goal post cameras, and that rule is across the board, not every stadium has a scoreboard hanging potentially in the field of play. They should just make it like the arena league, or a sandlot game, just punt it off the tv, hope it hits a member of the punt return team, and recover it. Like an onside kick…

  60. This is my night-mare scenario…
    Sunday…January 3rd 2010. The Eagles have a slim 3-0 lead over the cowboys.
    After a futile attempt by Mike Vick to complete a pass on 3rd 5, the Eagles have to punt from the boys 35yrd line.
    3 mins to go in 4Q.
    First punt gets off cleanly..and then nails the score board…
    on the “Do over” the Boys block the punt and Kieth Brooking returns the block for a TD.
    The cowboys win 7-3 and avoid going 0-16 for the season.
    I swear to god if that happens I will give up the NFL.

  61. @Steeler
    I agree it should be raised, thats not the point. The point is, the league approved it before it was built, it was built to regulations and now because some guy who will be washing cars in 2 weeks decided to hit it, its all a big fuss. I wish there was a way to place a bet on this because i would love to bet that no one hits it all year long.
    Unless they are from Philly in which case they will do it to be thugs.

  62. “You can spin this any way you like, but bottom line is that it’s a black eye for Jerruh and the ‘boys. ”
    I think you’re being way too emotional about this. A scrub punter hit it when he was trying to hit it in a preseason game. Why is it such a big deal? You’ve declared it a black eye because of that, seriously? I’m not one to bring up the Pats’ crap and you know this but if this is a black eye, the Pats’ thing must have been a decapitation followed by a gutting and a long dragging of the corpse through the streets behind an incontinent three-legged mule. I mean seriously, can we see if it’s even an issue in a competitive game before we cry gallons of crocodile tears over it?
    “But if there is more than a dozen do-over this year, you better believe that the board is going to be moved up up up next year whether Jerruh likes it or not.”
    Not until the rule is changed, in any event. FWIW if the over/under is 12, I’ll take the under. A punter that doesn’t have the control to miss it consistently doesn’t have the control to hit it consistently, either.

  63. blowedone – we get it, you don’t care for U2, but a few others do.
    Vox – thanks for the link to U2’s 360 concert. Do you realize that the scoreboard in question is 53 YARDS long? It dwarfs U2’s entire setup… the concert would look SPECTACULAR on that screen! (If they would just plug it in after raising).
    If, as you say, it CAN be plugged-in and run at the higher height (to accomodate U2’s 100′ stage), WHY IS THIS AN ISSUE? Leave it at 105′ or 110′ and there’s no problems by anyone.
    Stupid people (Jones, Goodell) with nothing better to do but fight about nothing.

  64. Jealous Cowboys fans again. Some of you are still too dumb to pick up on the fact that Jerry built it to code…the NFL approved it you door knobs.

  65. You can spin this any way you like, but bottom line is that it’s a black eye for Jerruh and the ‘boys.
    ———–
    And what? What will that do? Is it going to get the Cowboys anymore or less fans? NO. Is it going to make them sell any less merchandise? NO. I love the little sayings i’m hearing like “black eye” that some of these clowns are getting off of ESPN to describe the situation.
    Listen carefully…
    This will in no way hurt the Cowboys reputation or finances. Fans will take a positive outlook on the situation and non-fans will continue to bitch and moan like they would if there was any other subject about the Cowboys.
    One thing remains the same though. Love them or hate them, you can’t stop talking about them. Look at the amount of posts for Cowboys articles as there are to other teams. You can say you talk about them cause you hate them or they do things you don’t agree with, but the bottom line is that they are always on peoples mind. Go ahead and deny it as you talk about them once again.

  66. VoxVeritas says:
    August 28, 2009 11:06 AM
    “Typical NFL. Protecting one of it’s favorite franchises and caving in to a loud-mouth owner.”
    How is it caving in? The thing was positioned to NFL standards!
    ————————————————-
    Standards that were adopted in 1934 when they were still punting boiled pig stomachs. The league or the Cowboys should have foreseen this problem.

  67. @ Steeler
    I challenge you to come up with some evidence stating that the Steelers have been more a more important franchise than the cowboys. that is retarded. They are the number 1 franchise in terms of annual income in all of sports and are rated #1 based on fan polling for the NFL. thats not even getting into HOF’ers, superbowl MVP’s etc etc. like i have said numerous times i can respect your fan hood but when you start speaking jibberish you lose some cred sir.

  68. “If anything it’s gotta be a douchebag non-move.”
    Nice try but that’s pure spin. Dick move no matter how you spin it, but try try again.
    “Culpable? Are you gonna sue? Why are you getting so worked up over one nameless scrub punter that was trying to hit it?”
    Awww look who’s got their panties in a twist because his owner is getting called rightfully so for playing the douchebag role again.
    LOL I get a kick out of the repeated scrub moniker given to a guy who was a Ray Guy finalist. Rookie? Yes, no name scrub more revisionist spin from the king of it around here. And who’s all worked up? It’s just bullcrap and is being accurately characterized as such. You’re the one who feels compelled to defend your team against any and everyone who criticizes them. Melt much Voxy?
    “Haven’t you been following along? The boards were placed as NFL regs dictate. Yes, there is a rule governing minimum height of overhead obstructions. It’s 85 feet. The screens actually exceed the NFL’s minimum limit. The rules have to be changed to bring it out of compliance. Use your brain.”
    You can’t be that dense. Jerry said himself that he had hundreds of hours of research done on all trajectoryies possible with this thing. So either he’s lying or he’s an idiot and thought that something that HAD to have become apparent in a study that takes hundreds of hours would be fine with the NFL once ball met board. Bottom line is jerry knew damn well the board was going to be in the line fo fire, regs or not and him building the way he did knwoign it was going to force a rule change was a douchebag move. Now spit it however you want that’s the undeniable bottom line.
    “Wow, you don’t even understand the issue but you’re going off about it like an old woman. You don’t give a damn about what’s right, you just want to see the NFL stick it to Jerry Jones when all he did was follow the rules. That makes YOU the douchebag in the equation.”
    No Voxy what’s right and principle are exactly what’s at issue here and why you as a conservative are off the reservation by making excuses for this blatant dick move…rules or not. I have zero desire to see Jones fined or screwed over or whatever as long as he moves the board like he SHOULD without the NFL having to pass a rule to force him. But when he’s thumbing his nose at everyone and insulting our collective intelligence with the “who me routine” yea he deserves to have the screws put to him.

  69. “How are the Cowboys and Jerruh Jones more relevant than the Steelers and Dan Rooney?”
    I guess because they’re whoring themselves out to be ketchup salesmen in that joke of a stadium.

  70. If I am a coach and my team is playing in this place I tell my punter to go out there and try to hit that freaking scoreboard as many times as possible. Make the Cowgirls embarassed by that video board. JJ is an idiot and he will be made a fool of by the time this thing ends.

  71. Terrible decision. Raise the thing.
    btw, Heinz Field is great. Old time football, outside, the elements, natural grass. If the field is beat up, so what, deal with it.

  72. TiceWasBetter says:
    August 28, 2009 11:06 AM
    If Jerry Jones were black and the stadium was called ‘Death Row Records Stadium’ you can bet Goodell would make him move the damn thing.
    Goodell is a bigit.
    ————————————
    Oh, look……..J.Whyatt Mondesire signed up for a PFT account…….You do realize that Goddell works for the owners right? I’ve seen and said even, some ridiculous things on here, but this is the most ridiculous thing i’ve seen yet

  73. When the Super Dome in New Orleans opened in 1975, they pioneered the video boards on what was called a “gondola”. Our own punter at the time, Russell Erxleben, did strike the screen in warm ups and practice. I don’t recall for sure any incidences, but I believe there was one. The ‘gondola’ though was suspended with pulleys and wires, thus it could be moved easily. They eventually did move it up, way out of the way.

  74. The funny thing here is all the homers calling us haters, don’t you cowgirl fans realize this is going to hurt your team the most since you will be doing most of the punting during the games?

  75. Well EskinSux, I commend you on the unbiased comments, but the rule states that if the ball hits ANY object, the clock will be reset and down replayed. This is really the only new thing in the rules. Clock reset. I didn’t think they’d go that far to further discourage anybody from actually trying to hit it… my bad. However after thinking about it a bit more, it makes sense. QB’s won’t be trying to hit it because it would probably be considered intentional grounding. Punters won’t be trying to hit it because they don’t want their gunners to get worn out.

  76. It could add a new unintended strategy for the game. If you know your punter can hit it on command, then you could send him out to drill it into the board, and tell your special teams guys to go maybe only half speed. Then, when the other team is gassed from running the length of the field, go back and punt away from the video board, and let your fresher players try to run over their gassed ones.

  77. Steeler4life says:
    “How are the Cowboys and Jerruh Jones more relevant than the Steelers and Dan Rooney? Dan Rooney has owned the most successful and admired organization in the professional sports industry. Dan Rooney is an US Ambassador. ”
    ^^^^^
    Oh my, this is why you Pittsburgh fans are among the most insufferable in sports. This is just such an incredibly stupid comment on so many levels, where do I begin?.
    If you are implying that a team with with 6 league titles is more successful than the Yankees (whom I DETEST, btw) with their 20-whatever titles, or the Celtics with 17 titles, or even the Packers- after all, pro football did not begin in the 1970’s like you think – then you need to step outside western PA and get in touch with the rest of the world.
    “Most successful and admired organization in the professional sports…. “- Ha!! You should try stand up comedy, because that will have me laughing all the way into next week.

  78. This video board issue isn’t that big of a deal. Bill Parcells benching Drew Bledsoe was an injustice to the nth degree.

  79. To all the haters, just remember this: Jerry Jones is the commissioner.
    There is no such thing as equality. Jones above all else. Deal with it.

  80. So time is running out… 4th down… we need a play…quickly send in the punter…hit the board. In the mean time we are working with the offense to ID a play. They reset the play and now the offense comes in and runs the play…. A way to get a clock stopage without using a timeout!

  81. the decision has been made. there are much bigger issues that affect the game. concentrate on them. i know you guys that come here love to hate the cowboys, but quit being so damn immature.

  82. You are all making the assumption that this means that the board won’t be moved up. I bet it will be…we’ll see.

  83. @killapup
    I will break your argument down in pieces. You throw out stuff like I am one of your Devry Institute classmates.
    1. Superbowl MVPs : PGH 6 DAL 5
    2. Hall of Famers: PGH 24 DAL 17
    http://www.profootballhof.com/teams
    You knew the Superbowl MVP stat and you still threw it out there. Who is the moron?

  84. “Vox – thanks for the link to U2’s 360 concert. Do you realize that the scoreboard in question is 53 YARDS long? It dwarfs U2’s entire setup… the concert would look SPECTACULAR on that screen! (If they would just plug it in after raising).”
    U2’s screen may not be as big but it is huge, unique and integral to their stage show.

  85. @ OranjelloJones
    Oh, I see what you’re doing. You’re determined to play the whiney bitch role no matter what. More power to you, gurl.

  86. @killapup
    The Cowboys do make more money than Pittsburgh that is only due to the size of the market area.
    As far as fan polling, the Steelers always are #1. This “America’s Team” BS is a myth. Besides, TO says the Bills are North America’s team.

  87. “Standards that were adopted in 1934”
    Blame the Competition Committee for not revising the rules, assuming that they needed to be revised.
    They did convene to discuss the matter, did they not? And the 85-foot rule is apparently still in effect.

  88. Since there will be a lot of camera time on the bottom of the Video Board, I think Jerry is going to sell advertisement space there pretty shortly.
    “this do-over is brought to you by our friends at Pet Co., Pet Co, your one stop shop for your pets.”
    Jerry 1
    Everyone else 0
    America’s Team.

  89. “The funny thing here is all the homers calling us haters, don’t you cowgirl fans realize this is going to hurt your team the most since you will be doing most of the punting during the games?”
    Naah, the Cowboys have a pretty good punter. Your crappy punter may be in trouble, though.

  90. Steeler4life says:
    1. Superbowl MVPs : PGH 6 DAL 5
    You knew the Superbowl MVP stat and you still threw it out there. Who is the moron?
    Hall of famers i’ll give you, he was dumb to throw that out but…
    Superbowl MVPs –
    PGH – 6
    DAL – 7
    Ya… 7.. Chuck Howley was MVP vs the colts (only MVP from the losing team ever) and Randy White and Harvey Martin were co-mvps vs broncos.
    So… to answer your question, you’re the moron.

  91. “@ OranjelloJones
    Oh, I see what you’re doing. You’re determined to play the whiney bitch role no matter what. More power to you, gurl.”
    Awww what’s wrong Melty can’t take it when someone uses your own game against you? Typical Voxy the meltqueen. Can’t take it when someone actually brings it back at the same level. That was a nice shot at projection though. Too bad everyone who reads this site knows you for being the thin skinned meltqueen who has to respond to any and all criticism of the Cowboys. “Whiney bitch role”… talk about the pot calling the kettle black…rofl. Don’t worry Mullethead your reign in that role remains safely intact.

  92. “1. Superbowl MVPs : PGH 6 DAL 5”
    Hate to bust your lowbrow bubble but the Cowboys have 7 Super Bowl MVP’s.
    Super Bowl V – Chuck Howley
    Super Bowl VI – Roger Staubach
    Super Bowl XII – Harvey Martin and Randy White
    Super Bowl XXVII – Troy Aikman
    Super Bowl XXVIII – Emmitt Smith
    Super Nowl XXX – Larry Brown

  93. “1. Superbowl MVPs : PGH 6 DAL 5”
    Hate to bust your lowbrow bubble but the Cowboys have 7 Super Bowl MVP’s.
    Super Bowl V – Chuck Howley
    Super Bowl VI – Roger Staubach
    Super Bowl XII – Harvey Martin and Randy White
    Super Bowl XXVII – Troy Aikman
    Super Bowl XXVIII – Emmitt Smith
    Super Bowl XXX – Larry Brown

  94. “The Cowboys do make more money than Pittsburgh that is only due to the size of the market area. ”
    The market is the entire United States. The world. Local TV market area means nothing. Gate receipts are split 60/40 anyway. Meaning when the Steelers play the Cowboys, the Steelers get 40% of the gate.

  95. I can easily see them putting in a “Delay of Game” or “Unsportsmanlike” clause for those dumb goofy punters from Eastern Jackoffslavia or wherever they’re from who might think it’d be *neat* to hit the thing intentionally 20 times in a row…
    Listen:
    As far as I’m concerned, the Cowboys, JJ, Rom-oh-no and anyone or anything even remotely related to the Boys can all go suck each other’s brown stars dry
    (except, of course, when they play the BiQueens, Packers or Peegulls–then I love ’em).
    But I take my hat off to Vox for holding his ground against all you clowns and your onslaught of nit-picking bitchery.
    Only dead fish swim with the current, Vox.
    So you do your thing, brother.

  96. Hi, I’m jerry jones I spent a billion dollars on a new stadium THAT I BRAGGED ABOUT FOR YEARS but I put a video board in the middle that blocks punts. What an IDIOT. He talks a big game but when push comes to shove he hids behind the league rules and isn’t man enough to fix the error. Sure the height was specified by the NFL, but that was before anyone thought you would replace spectravision with a SPACESHIP SIZED VIDEO SYSTEM.
    First the guy has his practice facility collapse and paralyze his employees now the big video he promised impacts the game. The NFL IS THE GAME NOT THE STADIUM AND 50K seat licenses! GOODELL AND HIS GET TOUGH APPROACH IS A JOKE. Tell the geek to fix it or penalize him 500K per game until he does it.
    The guy is chargin AM students 75dollars a game for STUDENT TICKETS. He’s got the money stop making a circus out of the thing and fix that eyesore. Most importantly, Vegas doesn’t do do overs and I’m sure they will tell the league that.

  97. Wow! An added dimension to the game! Next they can add bunkers and water hazards for the runners and receivers.

  98. @OranjelloJones
    You proved Vox’s point….
    You come at him with:
    “Bottom line is jerry knew damn well the board was going to be in the line fo fire, regs or not and him building the way he did knwoign it was going to force a rule change was a douchebag move. ”
    Which is purely speculation, while his point was the board was placed with in the leagues rules.
    Fact vs Speculation
    So infact, while he backs his claims up with facts, you come back with whiney bitching that SPECULATE what you WANT TO BELIEVE.
    So no matter what, like most of that people on here that don’t pay attention to the facts (or choose to ignore them), you will bitch about any and everything Cowboys related.
    “No Voxy what’s right and principle are exactly what’s at issue here and why you as a conservative are off the reservation by making excuses for this blatant dick move…rules or not.”
    Rules or not, right? Meaning… what is right by the rules within the NFL, and what is right by YOUR standards. Which means nothing in the NFL.
    Vox is right. No matter what the facts of the situation are, you will say your opinion (no fact) and claim to ” bring it at his level”. What a poser.

  99. Jesus, 24 comments on the same story to try, and fail, to prove your point?
    Nah, you’re not a piece of shit loser………

  100. “He talks a big game but when push comes to shove he hids behind the league rules”
    Um… they’re called the “league rules” for a reason.
    “Sure the height was specified by the NFL, but that was before anyone thought you would replace spectravision with a SPACESHIP SIZED VIDEO SYSTEM.”
    No it wasn’t. The design was approved by the league before the first shovel of dirt was turned. Stop lying.
    “Most importantly, Vegas doesn’t do do overs and I’m sure they will tell the league that.”
    What the hell does that even mean?

  101. hayward giablommi says:
    August 28, 2009 11:48 AM
    Steeler4life says:
    “How are the Cowboys and Jerruh Jones more relevant than the Steelers and Dan Rooney? Dan Rooney has owned the most successful and admired organization in the professional sports industry. Dan Rooney is an US Ambassador. ”
    ^^^^^
    Oh my, this is why you Pittsburgh fans are among the most insufferable in sports. This is just such an incredibly stupid comment on so many levels, where do I begin?.
    If you are implying that a team with with 6 league titles is more successful than the Yankees (whom I DETEST, btw) with their 20-whatever titles, or the Celtics with 17 titles, or even the Packers- after all, pro football did not begin in the 1970’s like you think – then you need to step outside western PA and get in touch with the rest of the world.
    “Most successful and admired organization in the professional sports…. “- Ha!! You should try stand up comedy, because that will have me laughing all the way into next week.
    ____________________________
    Was your sense of irony removed after a childhood accident?

  102. Can’t blame jones for this. He built it to League Specs…probably league douche bags approved the very plans.
    Roger Godell should pay to have the thing raised…with his own money…and then as a further penance he should be forced to attend all of the cowboy home games.
    That will teach him to rubber stamp 1 billion dollar stadium blue prints. What a MORON.
    The flag ship stadium of the NFL blocks punts! Ha.

  103. @HasToBeAnIdiot and Vox
    That BS. Just like a freakin Cowboy fan to claim a Superbowl MVP of a losing Super Bowl team. We (The Steelers) wouldn’t even accept that honor.
    Randy White (1/2) and Harvey Martin (.5) counts as 1. It was just one game.
    Whatever the case, the Steelers are the most respected organization in all of sports.

  104. @killapup
    I hope this becomes the most commented post because this will be the most excitement you Cowpokes will have.
    Go Steelers!

  105. VoxVeritas says: August 28, 2009 12:07 PM
    @ OranjelloJones
    Oh, I see what you’re doing. You’re determined to play the whiney bitch role no matter what.
    ——————–
    You know what they say about stones in glass houses, Vox? Your post count on this thread has to be around 20, by a rough estimation, which is a bit under a fifth of these comments.
    Pot, meet kettle.

  106. Whatever the case, the Steelers are the most respected organization in all of sports.
    ———————-
    Just because ESPN kisses your ass doesn’t make you the most respected franchise in all of sports. If any fan, of any team for that matter, is claiming to be the most respected in sports, then they have some serious problems. The Steelers are the most respected team in the NFL this season… and that is because they won last year. After that, it’s who ever wins the Super Bowl the following year. The Packers were the first team to TWO Super Bowls. Does that make them the most respected? San Fransisco was the first to FIVE. Does that mean they are the most respected? No. I fail to see where there is an instrument that measures respectability.

  107. My rule was better. If the Cowboys punter hits the board, the opponent gets the ball on the Cowboy 40. If the opponent hits the board, it’s a first down.

  108. No No No!!
    They should have used a sober architect. Whoever is responsible needs to fix it and pay for the fixing. Goodell’s lameness is now proven.

  109. Do ou think they would’ve done this for Buffalo? Why are 31 NFL owners so scared of Jerry Jones? Like his team, he’s nothing special. He screwed up. Make him fix it.

  110. quoting: “danj0306 says: August 28, 2009 9:51 AM
    NOOOOOOO… that is BS… horrible choice by the league… How can a video board become a possible game changing obstacle”
    uhhhh, how about b/c some dufus architech didn’t realize how high an NFL-caliber punter can send a football? Or maybe, b/c Jerry Jones never submitted the blueprints for review by someone with a few active braincells…

  111. Jerry Jones is a raving lunatic. Now with his monument to failure built, it’s causing headaches for the league. The league did not build this monstrosity, idiot Jerry did. I’m with another comment. This is why I hate the cowboys and their new monument to failure!!!

  112. WEll the old saying “Money Talks and Sh&% Walks” is true aqgain. Jerry Wins. has the and that’s that. What a way to run a railroad.

  113. Where to begin you Cowboy hating group of uneducated people.
    1. in a “do-over” situation there are no penalties accessed and no time taken off the clock. basically it never happened. This effects the outcome of the game, how?
    2. The NFL standard rule states that anything hanging perm or temporary must be at least 85′ above the playing surface. The Video board is 90′.
    3. History lesson: The “Do-over Rule” has been around since the mid 1970’s and was created then for Punter Ray Guy who hit the TV monitors in the ProBowl game played at the SuperDome in New Orleans. These TV monitors were hung 90′ above the playing surface. Ray Guy played at Southern Mississippi and then went pro with the Oakland Raiders where he played from ’73-’96. Ray was the first ever drafted Punter. http://www.Rayguy.net check out the website.
    4. Jerry Jones has nothing to do with this one. He is within NFL regulations, precedence was set before JJ ever got into the NFL. Go whine about something else!

  114. **** 1. in a “do-over” situation there are no penalties accessed and no time taken off the clock. basically it never happened. This effects the outcome of the game, how? ***
    LMAO! Are you really that stupid? On attempt #1, the punter gets the punt off, but it hits the sign. On attempt #2, the punt is blocked.

  115. Within the rules or not….NFL approving ahead of time or not…the right thing to do is move the board. Just because it’s legal doesn’t make it right.
    And as usual, JJ will not do the right thing. And as usual, arogant Cowboys fans will support JJ and laugh about it. That’s because arogant Cowboy fans don’t know the difference between right and wrong…they haven’t grown up yet.
    **note this does not pertain to all cowboy fans…just the arrogant ones that laugh about it and support that yahoo owner.
    and yes, I think the NFL should pay for it

  116. MedTX says:
    1. in a “do-over” situation there are no penalties accessed and no time taken off the clock. basically it never happened. This effects the outcome of the game, how?
    Well, allow me to spell it out for you:
    Late in the 4th quarter of a tied game, opposing team has no time outs, need to come up with a big play, but the play clock is winding down…send out the punter to hit the sign, thus buying time for other team; he can kick into the sign ad nauseum while the team plans. After 3 or 4 sign kicks, the other team lines up and beats your Cowchickens on a last second play that they never would have been able to make if not for the sign. Dallas misses the playoffs, and you have to sit around and watch the Steelers win yet another Super Bowl.
    You Cowboys fans are in a big hurry to defend this boneheaded move by your boneheaded owner, so don’t come crying about how you got robbed when it comes back to bite you on the butt.

  117. Haha, as a Cowboys fan, I couldn’t help but laugh myself. This is ridiculous. But to be fair to our Boys (and the terrifying Jerry Jones), league regulations stipulated that the board needed to be 85 feet above the playing field. It sits at 90. And league officials checked it before construction. So honestly, this is all a pretty unfortunate oversight. “Do over” rule, here we go!

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