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Harrison: Seymour's "not thrilled" with deal to Raiders

Retired safety Rodney Harrison told PFT Monday night that he has spoken to his former Patriots teammate and close friend Richard Seymour about the deal that sent Seymour to Oakland.

And?

“He’s not thrilled,” said Harrison, now an analyst for NBC’s Football Night in America.  “Who would be thrilled to go to the Oakland Raiders?  Maybe somebody who’s happy to just get a chance but not a guy like Richard Seymour, a five-time Pro Bowler.  For a veteran player to go to Oakland at this juncture it’s just difficult.

“Put yourself in his position,” Harrison added.  “He’s going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL.  You have the head coach fighting the assistant coaches, the owner involved in the day-to-day operations, guys who don’t believe in the quarterback. . . .  Tom Brady to JaMarcus Russell?  Come on.  Is that something to look forward to?  Why would he be excited?”

Asked if Seymour would report to the Raiders, Harrison said, “I don’t know that.  Only Richard knows that.  But I wouldn’t go to Oakland.  There’s no way in the world I would go to Oakland.  The only way I would report is if they promised they wouldn’t franchise me after this year.”

Seymour, who turns 30 in October, is due to become a free agent in March 2010.

Harrison acknowledged the sound business sense the deal made for both teams involved.

“It’s a great deal for the Raiders,” he said.  “Combine Richard with Tommy Kelly on the defensive line, you have [Nnamdi] Asomugha in the secondary, there’s some talent there and you’ve brought in a player who knows how to win and be a professional.

“And you look at the move made by [Patriots head coach Bill] Belichick, and you can see him saying, ‘I’d rather get rid of a guy before the last year of his contract.’  He knows the Raiders will stink so it’s a top-10 pick in return for a guy who’s gonna be 30.  You know what?  That’s the business. 

“The trade off is, guys get to win championships and make a lot of money, but at the end, it’s business.  I knew that and instead of my getting whacked [by New England], I whacked myself.  If you make money and you’re older, it’s inevitable you’re gonna get whacked.”

So that’s what happened to Randy Hanson.

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72 Responses to “Harrison: Seymour's "not thrilled" with deal to Raiders”
  1. Fike Mlorio says: Sep 7, 2009 10:03 PM

    maybe seymour can teach the raiders how to use a camera

  2. FumbleNuts says: Sep 7, 2009 10:05 PM

    “Put yourself in his position,” Harrison added. “He’s going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL.
    Seymour see’s the writing on the wall.
    Good luck Richard!

  3. BaldingersPinky says: Sep 7, 2009 10:05 PM

    It’s great that Harrison is so outspoken but he will say somehting stupid going off like he seems to. Also after he bags on enough players/teams nobody will talk to him any more. He reminds me of a fire drill at school…. No Class.

  4. TSE says: Sep 7, 2009 10:06 PM

    Hey Rodney,
    He should be happy because he’s getting what he wanted. Didn’t Seymour say he didn’t want to play there in NE if he didn’t get a new contract? Well he made his own bed, he was called on his bluff and now he’s being fairly traded and he has an opportunity for a new contract now. If he didn’t want to go to Oakland he should have considered that when he negotiated with NE. All we can assume is he considered everything and made his own decision and now this is the result based upon his choice of how he chose to play his hand.
    It’s just like playing poker, if you want to bluff at a pot, sometimes you steal the money, and sometimes you pay the price. If you don’t want to play that way then fold your hand. He wanted to play that way so he had to face the music of how the cards fell, and they fell this particular way this time, what’s the problem? He made the decision he wanted to make and what was the best decision for him in his opinion and everything is natural here with what Seymour’s choices were.

  5. todd bennett says: Sep 7, 2009 10:10 PM

    Maybe Seamour could teach you how to write!

  6. BradyGazelle says: Sep 7, 2009 10:11 PM

    You know – I don’t necessarily like my boss or work conditions either, but then again – I don’t make anywhere close to $3M a year.
    Grow a pair and realize how lucky you are – especially in these economic conditions.

  7. todd bennett says: Sep 7, 2009 10:11 PM

    Maybe Seymour could teach you how to write!

  8. superius says: Sep 7, 2009 10:11 PM

    “Put yourself in his position,” Harrison added. “He’s going from a first-class organization to one of the worst in the NFL. You have the head coach fighting the assistant coaches, the owner involved in the day-to-day operations, guys who don’t believe in the quarterback. . . . Tom Brady to JaMarcus Russell? Come on. Is that something to look forward to? Why would he be excited?”
    —————
    It’s a tough situation. But to be honest, Richard had to see it coming. He knows the Patriots won’t over pay for a player. He is looking at an uncapped year and he wants to make a fortune. He was really excited because he was going to be having a contract year on a contender which would lead to the kind of money the Patriots couldn’t match.
    It was inevitable that Richard was not going to be back. The Patriots were offered a potential top-10 pick for him. They got a first round pick for a guy who wasn’t going to be back anyway. It frees up space to extend Wilfork now and stop him from getting to free agency, etc… Too good of an opportunity to pass up.

  9. dave says: Sep 7, 2009 10:13 PM

    just give him some of your HGH rodney, and tell him to man up
    douchebag

  10. MikeFlorio'sSource1 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:13 PM

    Harrison’s a joke. He’s classless, never graduated college and is one of the worst public speakers in the nfl. Why NBC hired him is beyond me? But were talking about the same station that puts Olberman on air, who’s delusional.

  11. ragin40 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:14 PM

    What a has been ex charger saying something negative about the raiders? C’mon might as well interview Marty schittenhiemer…, try again florio…FAIL.

  12. A_MAC says: Sep 7, 2009 10:20 PM

    your a first class cheater rodney u b1atch

  13. jeremyb91 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:22 PM

    “It’s a great deal for the Raiders,” he said. “Combine Richard with Tommy Kelly on the defensive line, you have [Nnamdi] Asomugha in the secondary, there’s some talent there and you’ve brought in a player who knows how to win and be a professional.
    You have to admit he knows what he’s talking about when he’s discussing the talent on the Raiders defense and how Seymour’s a great addition.

  14. Garbanzo says: Sep 7, 2009 10:26 PM

    I knew that and instead of my getting whacked [by New England], I whacked myself.
    ______________________________
    HAHAHAHAHA

  15. tsweeney1 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:28 PM

    Seymour has exposed himself time and time again as nothing more than a selfish piece of trash. He has held out from the Pats twice. Gee I wonder why BB decided to let him go and keep the cash to pay people next year. BB requires total devotion to the team when you hold out you are putting your selfish needs above the team. When you get paid the amount these cry babies do a couple of mill here and there does not make that much of a difference, all it does is expose greed. Plus the fact that when you sign a contract what gives you the right to hold out? Honor the contract and play it out, then you ask for more money. The best way I have ever heard it was in Mr. Deeds when Deeds told the Jets quarter back, If you don’t play well can I pay you less? Hey Richard have fun in Oakland. PS is Wilfork holding out? Oh yeah he isnt and yet he is still here. Strange huh Dick, oh I mean Richard.

  16. Alpheratz says: Sep 7, 2009 10:37 PM

    superius
    I think what we all expected is he would play out his contract in NE, they wouldn’t meet his price for the next one, and he would waltz to some half decent team of his choosing in free agency.
    This is pretty abrupt if you’re planning on scenario #1.
    He’ll get over it soon enough.
    Being a multi millionare helps with the healing process.

  17. Pastabelly says: Sep 7, 2009 10:38 PM

    Why doesn’t Seymour play out the year, collect his money, and just hit free agency? It would be unbelievable if the Raiders franchised him as a defensive end. He’s just not that good anymore and the tag is $9 million. Wilfork is a tackle and can be tagged for $6 million. That explains why Seymour is gone already.
    As for Harrison, he was playing 1/2 seasons and his salary was $3.7 million. He would only have gotten whacked if he didn’t take a $1.7 million haircut. He’s right if he’s suggesting he wasn’t going to be collecting the $3.7 million. Rodney is pretty articulate and will be one of the more interesting analysts on tv this year. He understands the business end of the game and is outspoken.

  18. APonte says: Sep 7, 2009 10:41 PM

    yeah Rodney making over 3 million a year in this economy when lot’s of people are out of work losing there homes that would be a tough situation to go to, WOW i’m not sure I could survive on that, give me a break Harrison

  19. raybin says: Sep 7, 2009 10:42 PM

    What a load of crap. Harrison is such a douchebag.
    There’s no doubt in my mind that Seymour is “not thrilled” about the trade. And honestly….I don’t blame him. Who would be? Look, I’m not gonna pretend that everything is sunshine and marshmallows in Raiderland and that every player in the world wants to put on silver and black. It’s in an ugly six-year slide and there are some seriously f-d up things about the organization. We all know that. Who would volunteer to go from a perennial Super Bowl contender to franchise with a lot of troubles?
    So I get it. Seymour would rather not be going to to play in Oakland. No surprise or news there.
    But once you get past that initial quote, EVERYTHING is Harrison’s B.S. opinion. Not Seymour’s. Harrison’s. But I promise you, you’ll see it reported elsewhere as if it were reflecting an opinion received directly from Richard.
    Oh and tell me Rodney, what inside sources do you have in the Raiders organization that tell you the team doesn’t believe in JaMarcus Russell? What a joke. Maybe San Diego could still take you back to play, since they tend to look the other way when it comes to steroid abusing freaks who like to shoot their mouths off.

  20. 2brauneyz says: Sep 7, 2009 10:44 PM

    Say what you will about Rodney, but it appears the dude knows of what he speaks!
    Good luck Richard. This business sucks!

  21. Raider Pride says: Sep 7, 2009 10:45 PM

    This is a brilliant trade for the Raiders.
    Getting a player like Seymour for the 32nd pick in the 2011 draft. Brilliant!
    Al Davis is Junior Soprano… He is sitting there in his wheel chair, faking to be incoherent, but maintaining a mind like a fox.
    Harrison is just pissed off he never wore Silver And Black.

  22. encinitasraider says: Sep 7, 2009 11:00 PM

    how many times did rodney pick up the soap in the pats and chargers shower?

  23. snnyjcbs says: Sep 7, 2009 11:00 PM

    What old Rodney does not tell you is how he called up the Raiders when he was dumped by the Chargers.
    What was on Rodneys mind?, he was almost begging the Raiders to sign him. The Raiders responce?, the Raiders pick you, you do not pick the Raiders.
    Between the Raiders almost yearlly thumping of old Rodney and his Chargers when he was on the team and the Raiders rejection of old Rodneys advances he has those sour grapes.
    Seymour is not happy being traded period, can you blame him. But he is a Raider now, something old Rodney always wanted and never received. And that is documented in the archives of statements Rodney has made many times to the media.

  24. BrownsTown says: Sep 7, 2009 11:13 PM

    Maybe Seymour doesn’t want to get exposed since he won’t be surrounded by elite lineman and quality LBs.

  25. AmishGangsta says: Sep 7, 2009 11:17 PM

    I honestly don’t know who’s dumber in these comments-Pats fans trashing a guy who they would’ve been telling you was poised for a breakout year 24 hours ago or Raiders fans acting like that guy will put them over the top. Its to close to call.
    Here’s the deal- I have a tremendous amount of respect for the way Belichick runs a football team-the guy is simply the best there is at building competitive teams. At the other end of the spectrum you have the Raiders, quite possibly the worst franchise in ALL the 4 major pro leagues.
    The fans of those 2 teams, on the other hand, are some of the dumbest people on EARTH, especially you obnoxious Patriot fans.

  26. Farves sweet Hair says: Sep 7, 2009 11:22 PM

    This jerk is complaining about being paid millions of $$$ playing a game. Wow, why doesn’t he get a real job? What a loser!

  27. superius says: Sep 7, 2009 11:22 PM

    @Raider Pride:
    Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    I think you got it wrong…the Patriots *get* Oakland’s 1st round pick…Oakland doesn’t get the Patriots.

  28. BradyGazelle says: Sep 7, 2009 11:23 PM

    Yeah Amish Gangsta F the Pats and Raidahs fans!

  29. INVAIDUH says: Sep 7, 2009 11:27 PM

    Go on vacation and all Hell breaks loose.

  30. HayMaker says: Sep 7, 2009 11:32 PM

    See how the BB techinque is spreading …. trading pro-bowl players for future number one draft picks.
    Who looks stupider now all you McDaniels haters!

  31. ragin40 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:33 PM

    Why would you respect a cheater? Instead of saying the last four years what about the last twenty? How about thirty? Maybe forty? That’s right the cheatriats have won championships there whole existence? Oh and bellacgeat won in cleavlend too, gimme a break…

  32. Flying elvis says: Sep 7, 2009 11:34 PM

    Don’t you know it is obnoxious to use all Caps. Did you really want to shout the word earth in that sentence? You probably are they type of person who will just shout out words randomly though. Sorry for you.

  33. SmackMyVickUp says: Sep 7, 2009 11:40 PM

    Unemployment is at 9.7% (give or take) 13% in Vegas.
    This guy is bitching about going to play in Oakland for 3.7 mil/year. He has the chance to become a standout on a poor team and cash in at the end of the season, especially if franchised by Oakland.
    He played for a winner and got his ring. Stfu and collect some nice $ to end your career.
    Actually looking forward to the upcoming labor dispute, it looks like it might get messy.

  34. sliverofblack says: Sep 7, 2009 11:45 PM

    I am sick of Harrison already. But the only way the Raiders can stop the criticism, warranted or not. . .is to win more than six games in a season.
    In the weak arse West and watered down league as a whole, anything’s possible. As bad as they were a year ago, Rodnoid, they lost three leads in the 4th. Seymour could be the dif, dude. Now, go pop some HGH and shut the hell up. . .

  35. Ken1313 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:46 PM

    Rodney was a good player…but his statement is a total contradiction. He claims Seymour doesn’t want to go to Oakland……but he will if he gets an extension?????? Why would he want an extension to play in a place he doesn’t wanna go ?? Hmmmmmmmmmm so either Rodney doesn;t have a clue what he’s talking about……or Seymour is a greedy bastard who really cares more about money than who he is playing for. If he was smart…he’d play out the season and get paid as a free agent. But I’ll bet ya he is terrified of getting franchised and being stuck in Oakland for two years without getting that last big payday. Let’s face it, 32 year old injury prone linemen don;t get huge multi year contracts,,,,,Seymour knows this….thus the “ultimatum”. (Plus he IS a greedy bastard..he has demonstrated in in the past)

  36. Ken1313 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:52 PM

    >…
    Haymaker, your statment would have more merit if you hadn’t used the word “stupider”…….which does not actually exist in the English Language. The correct term is MORE STUPID.

  37. east96st says: Sep 7, 2009 11:52 PM

    Raider Pride says: “Getting a player like Seymour for the 32nd pick in the 2011 draft. Brilliant!”
    Man, that’s gonna be a killer hangover you have tomorrow. Time to call it a night before you hurt yourself.

  38. encinitasraider says: Sep 8, 2009 12:00 AM

    How did la mont jordan work for the pats?
    how about Andrew Walters?
    how about Derrick burgess which the Raider get a 3rd and 5th round pick in NEXT YEARS DRAFT.,,,,,So the Raiders start the year with Greg Ellis and Richard Seymour at DE’s…
    Last year the Raiders started the Season with Burgess but he was hurt and Richaderson(Trevor Scott on passing downs),,,,Give me a break if you dont think the Raiders got the better end of this deal. By the time 2011 draft comes about the Raiders will be 10-6 and the Pats will be on the bottom of the AFC East. No Brady,,,,No SuperBowl.

  39. snnyjcbs says: Sep 8, 2009 12:03 AM

    Only a New England Fan would take one of their best ever players. Possible future Hall of Fame, 5 time Pro Bowl DE/DT and overnight turn him into a washed up, one leg in the grave and waiting on his wheelchair, over hyped in his prime, New England is better off without him player. This could only happen in New England.
    Nobody thinks Seymour will put the Raiders over the top but he will make everyone on the Raider D better. No more double team play after play of Kelly and he will shore up the right edge on the run.
    So get use to the fact, he is gone and he is the same great player you thought he was the day before you heard about the trade. Oh and one last thing, he is a Raider.
    I read during the off season how New England was going to end up with Nnamdi. Well we have Nnamdi and we now have Seymour. Do not feel to bad, plug in the undersized cannot stop the run when I am healthy enough to play Burgess in to take his place.

  40. Oakfan23 says: Sep 8, 2009 12:09 AM

    Hey, im a fan but Al created this mess and the way his franchise is viewed. Cable is doing his best to turn this thing around and he is going in the right direction, but Cable needs guys like Seymour to help him. I hope Seymour can see that and is professional about it. I’m a die-hard fan but i wouldn’t be happy either if i was Richard, im sure he wanted to stay where there is a little less caos in the front office. I believe even Al see’s what he’s done unfortunately this is not a quick fix. It’s not easy fixing 6 yrs. of crap, especially when Al won’t stop meddling. The funny thing is a win monday night and alot of this talk goes away. We need Seymour to help with that.

  41. Iceberg34 says: Sep 8, 2009 12:20 AM

    I think I’m going to like Rodney as an analyst. He is the antithesis of Tiki Barber.

  42. Oakfan23 says: Sep 8, 2009 12:23 AM

    Is this true about Rodney always wanting to be a raider?? lol, thats funny. I believe they are working on a new contract and Seymour will not report until they finalize something. I think oakland deserves all the bashing they get until they start winning. A win monday will stop a lot of this talk, the media are geared towards “what have u done lately”? they pull off a win monday and Raidernation will see a LOT of backtracking in the media, people just need to see wins bottom line.

  43. Tim says: Sep 8, 2009 12:30 AM

    You lost me after “I whacked myself.”

  44. elroy says: Sep 8, 2009 12:40 AM

    Funniest thing is that the Patriots aren’t even close to the cap limit. Florio and Peter King won’t tell you that though, but if the Putz really cared about winning above all, they’d have already signed Seymour, Wilfork, and Brady to new deals.

  45. Richm2256 says: Sep 8, 2009 12:43 AM

    No doubt Seymour wasn’t “thrilled” with the trade; who the hell would be, it’s the freakin’ Raiders. Come on!
    That said, I’ll cry no tears for Seymour. When dude jacked up the Patriots twice for more money, it was “just business”. Now that he’s poised to walk away into free agency for nothing in return and the Pats can flip his declining “how much are you worth NOW?” a$$ for a likely high level first rounder, we’re supposed to feel sorry for him??
    Hey Richard, it’s “just a business”, remember? Live by the dollar, die by the dollar. It’s going to be the worst season of his life if they don’t franchise him, and a horrible end to his career if they do!
    How’s your holdout now, Richard?!

  46. Tdk24 says: Sep 8, 2009 12:47 AM

    I almost feel dumber for reading that. Why do we let athletes speak?

  47. nato2424 says: Sep 8, 2009 2:04 AM

    even patriot fans werent patriot fans until 2002. give them a break..

  48. 0tt0 says: Sep 8, 2009 2:14 AM

    in 2006 the great belicheck was working a trade with the raiders for moss or porter(i think porter)….he didnt pull the trigger and went into the season with a bunch of garbage receivers….he lost the afc championhip that season to the colts when resche caldwell dropped a wide open TD……that no-trade may have cost him a SB…the next year he went and got moss
    now in 2009 they trade away their pro bowl DE to the raiders and replace him with the raiders burgess….who the raiders wanted to dump cause he sucks against the run…will history repeat itself and find the pats in the championship game only to see the opposing team trample over burgess and keep the ball away from brady/moss and cost the great belicheck yet another SB

  49. mnmaverick says: Sep 8, 2009 2:18 AM

    Can you blame Seymour? Going from the Pats to the Raiders is like going from “The Penthouse” to “The Outhouse”.

  50. 980110 says: Sep 8, 2009 2:50 AM

    I don’t really think the Pats traded Seymour for strategic reasons, they were backed into a corner. It makes no sense. Let’s say Oakland sucks again, and New England gets the number 5 pick next year. This years number 5 signed for 5 years, $60m, $28m guaranteed. Even only counting the guaranteed money that’s over $5m/ year, the full contract comes to $12m/year. Seymour only made $3m.
    High draft picks flame out (probably) half the time, and get paid way too much money. Trading a proven Pro Bowler, even in the last year of his contract, for a highly paid player that may or may not develop 3 years from now makes no sense.
    I think Seymour was playing a Brandon Marshall this preseason and Belichick just gave up and got the best deal he could. But sportwriters that are calling this a brilliant move are being “hood”winked.
    Good Luck

  51. RexRyan'sStressedLapband says: Sep 8, 2009 3:35 AM

    #
    # HayMaker says: September 7, 2009 11:32 PM
    See how the BB techinque is spreading …. trading pro-bowl players for future number one draft picks.
    Who looks stupider now all you McDaniels haters!
    =====================================
    The difference being that there are other good players on the Pats. Who do the Donks have?

  52. EdgarSnyder says: Sep 8, 2009 4:47 AM

    NE sucks a little more. excellent!

  53. crise40g says: Sep 8, 2009 5:34 AM

    Wow, what insight from a Raider Hater.
    Bottom line, Seymour, if he decides to man up, will improve the Raider D. I’m not saying next level but he will be a big upgrade and help in the run D. I hope his professionalism comes through. From what I read from Pats fans, he’s a stand up guy.
    Win, lose, or tie….Raiders ’til I die!
    Let them hate!

  54. formerly dystopianow says: Sep 8, 2009 6:09 AM

    Hey Roidney, how does that gold jacket feel? Oh, thats right, there’s no football archaeologists to elect you to the hall… idiot.

  55. Joe in Toronto, Canada says: Sep 8, 2009 6:55 AM

    The Boston Globe is reporting that indeed, Seymour has things to work out with the Patriots.
    Isn’t that what Tom Cable said, haters?
    It sounds to me like the Raiders insisted that Seymour sign a longterm deal BEFORE being traded.
    Smart move by Mr Davis.
    As to Harrison, the Raiders bruised his vagina when they turned him down, plain and simple.

  56. FireJerryJones says: Sep 8, 2009 6:59 AM

    He pretty much called a spade a spade.
    Aside from whacking himself.
    Raiders suck. They have some nice parts but not QB. He’s best against the run. They are league’s worst. They’ll still suck in 2011. High draft choice to Patriots.
    Seymour held out twice before for big $… so not much loyalty there.
    Time to get his candy a$$ to Oakland.
    Looks like a one year deal for the Raiders. They must think he’s going to help them win now.

  57. DonTerrelli says: Sep 8, 2009 7:44 AM

    He must have been caught Mrs. Kraft or something to get that.

  58. Mr Krinkle says: Sep 8, 2009 8:39 AM

    Seymout should just go there for one season, play hard and get a fat contract from a team other than the Raiders next year.

  59. JRPatsFan says: Sep 8, 2009 8:54 AM

    “Only a New England Fan would take one of their best ever players. Possible future Hall of Fame, 5 time Pro Bowl DE/DT and overnight turn him into a washed up, one leg in the grave and waiting on his wheelchair, over hyped in his prime, New England is better off without him player. This could only happen in New England.
    Nobody thinks Seymour will put the Raiders over the top but he will make everyone on the Raider D better. No more double team play after play of Kelly and he will shore up the right edge on the run.
    So get use to the fact, he is gone and he is the same great player you thought he was the day before you heard about the trade. Oh and one last thing, he is a Raider.
    I read during the off season how New England was going to end up with Nnamdi. Well we have Nnamdi and we now have Seymour. Do not feel to bad, plug in the undersized cannot stop the run when I am healthy enough to play Burgess in to take his place.”
    Sorry, but all NE fans don’t think this way. I understand the move, but believe me I would rather have Seymour here this year than in OAK. However, with that being said, what those few NE fans you are referring to is that Seymour is perpetually hurt. He has only started all 16 games in his career twice and even in the seasons where he started more than 12 games, he was not even close to 100% most of the time.
    Last year he played 15 games and tied his career high with 8 sacks. Every other year besides those two 8 sack years he was good for only 1 -4 sacks. You could say that was because he was double-teamed, but shouldn’t that free up other DL of LBs for a pass rush? NE never has good pressure on the QB, and that is why the secondary hasn’t been good lately.
    Bottom line – Seymour is a great player, but he is not worth the hype and money that he will be getting paid. It hurts to see him leave and it will hurt the defense. On the other hand NE has seen a ton of hyped, highly paid veterans leave and they did great without them. Lawyer Milloy anyone?

  60. Ken1313 says: Sep 8, 2009 8:57 AM

    Just a note to those expecting a 2010 draft pick…the pick is for 2011. Also, there’s a damn good chance that a rookie salary wage cap will be in place by then…thus making the pick even MORE valuable because the Patriots could get a top player without the ridiculous salaries now being paid to unproven rookies.
    There is also a chance that the Patriots, who are notorious draft day dealers, will turn around and deal that pick for 2-3 more. The main point is…who do you trust with a valuable draft pick more…Bill Belichek or Al Davis???
    These two teams have swung alot of deals over the past 4-5 years and no one can dispute that the patriots have been using the raiders as a farm team lately. The trades that didn’t work out for the Patriots were because of the tremendous depth the team has at those positions.
    No one is disputing that Seymour is still a good player, but he is turning 30 next month and the Patriots do have a more than able replacement in Ron Brace. Will there be a dropoff? Most likely…..but remember they don’t need to get better…they just need to stay close to what they had….and Brace can do that.
    The Patriots haters will do their hating…..the Raider haters will do their hating….in the end…we won’t know who got the better of this deal until after the 2011 draft and beyond. So anyone who thinks they have the answer now…is just a pinhead

  61. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 8, 2009 9:05 AM

    I love it how the Raiders fans are all upset over a few truthful words about their organization. You fricken pussies, get over it.

  62. descendency says: Sep 8, 2009 9:17 AM

    I really think this is because NE thinks the cap is coming back if it leaves.
    NE won’t overpay people because the cap exists. If the cap were removed, I’m not sure NE would not give out ridiculous contracts.
    It’s not that they are frugal, but simply playing the game.

  63. steeler-hater says: Sep 8, 2009 9:33 AM

    This deal would be better for Oakland if they were an 8-8 team or a 9-7 team. Then maybe it would help them get into the playoffs.
    But I think this move makes them a 6-10 team… maybe 7-9 in that weak AFC West.
    But the Chargers will win that division and the Raiders will probably wind up in second place. But their record won’t be good enough to get a wild card…

  64. raiderjoe says: Sep 8, 2009 9:56 AM

    Call Raider fans whatever you want. But if you don’t realize that Rodney Harrison, and ex-Charger would never say anything good about Oakland, you need to pull your head out.Somebody pointed out above, the only person that would be worse to ask about anything involving the Raiders would be Marty Schotteheimer. Reality is we Raider fans watch the NFL analysts on every network and get to hear what every guy that ever played for the Denver Broncos or San Diego Charger thinks of our team. Denver fans never have to worry about all the Sunday shows and NFL panels being populated by former Raiders, because they’re aren’t any, Rod Woodson and Howie Long are it.

  65. patsSB44champs says: Sep 8, 2009 10:28 AM

    Naturally. He’s just gone from the best franchise in sports to the worst.
    Thanks for the #1 overall pick in 2011, Al.

  66. patsSB44champs says: Sep 8, 2009 10:31 AM

    Raider Pride says:
    September 7, 2009 10:45 PM
    This is a brilliant trade for the Raiders.
    Getting a player like Seymour for the 32nd pick in the 2011 draft. Brilliant!
    Al Davis is Junior Soprano… He is sitting there in his wheel chair, faking to be incoherent, but maintaining a mind like a fox.
    Harrison is just pissed off he never wore Silver And Black.
    Geez, Harrison only won two more SB’s in New England than he ever would have won out in the Black Hole. You guys will suck, suck, and suck some more as long as Senile Al is still in charge. Thanks for the #1 overall pick in 2011. We just fleeced you guys AGAIN!!!

  67. steeler-hater says: Sep 8, 2009 11:12 AM

    Of course, one thing the Patsy fans are forgetting is that now their team has a big hole to fill in the DL. Also, don’t be surprised if the Vince Wilfork situation becomes a problem. He can’t be happy about this. The Patsys obviously moved Seymour because it was his contract year and they wanted to get something for him before they lost him to free agency. Everyone knows that the only way they would have kept Seymour around past this season was if the franchise tagged him. They weren’t gonna actually PAY him a long term, big money contract so he would have left after this year unless tagged.
    Wilfork probably sees this situation as his future.
    Besides, the Patsys have just made his job much harder for this year. Seymour’s replacement doesn’t scare anyone so teams will be focusing on Wilfork even more now that Seymour is gone. Vince can’t be too happy about that…

  68. Eli says: Sep 8, 2009 2:29 PM

    “Asked if Seymour would report to the Raiders, Harrison said, “I don’t know that. Only Richard knows that. But I wouldn’t go to Oakland. There’s no way in the world I would go to Oakland.”
    Really Rodney?
    Then how do you explain this?
    http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20030309/ai_n14544493/?tag=rel.res1

  69. KinchInLA says: Sep 8, 2009 7:39 PM

    Eli – The Raiders were 11-5 in 2002, not the sad sack losers they are now. They did hit the skids in 2003, but that was after Rodney was interested in playing for them. Anyway, Rodney going to the Patriots worked out well for them and him, and the Chargers are still trying to find his replacement.

  70. Buzzball says: Sep 8, 2009 9:04 PM

    Harrison knows that all players of Seymours caliber, and are clearly in it for the big paycheck, often expect a great contract in trades like this. Seymour is most likely threatening Oakland, to take his game checks (3.7 mil) and sit out the year, if he dosen’t get the big bucks he believes he’s worth.

  71. Eli says: Sep 9, 2009 12:10 AM

    @KinchInLA
    Yes, I have been watching football for a day or two now and I’m cognizant of the Raiders record in 2002.
    Still, that does not somehow erase him pontificating about how bad Oakland is and IMPLYING that he would never play their when in FACT he was trying his best to land their over New England.
    Harrison stated “there is no way in the world I would go”.
    Obviously, this statement, along with his other comments about Oakland, leaves no room for doubt.
    Fairly confident your average fan doesn’t realize he was indeed ACTIVELY PURSUING trying to play for the Oakland Raiders.
    One should expect a person in Harrison’s position to be clear about such matters.

  72. WilltoWin says: Sep 9, 2009 5:21 AM

    Could Rodney be a little biased? You tell me.
    I counted. Rodney Harrison’s personal record whenplaying against the Raiders is (drum-roll please…)12-7. Yes Rodney, you got your tail kicked in 12 times in 19 career games. So let me re-ask and answer your question
    Who would be thrilled to go to the Raiders?
    You would have.
    Fans, dont be snowed by biased ex-players, especially those who got beat up by the team they are analyzing.

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