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Seymour could eventually get "five-day letter"

We posed earlier today the question of whether defensive lineman Richard Seymour will report to the Raiders after the trade that sent him from New England for a first-round pick in 2011.

NFL spokesman Michael Signora has outlined for us the procedure that would apply, if Seymour stays away.

The precise protocol is determined by the terms of the trade.  “Traditionally the first condition is that the trade is contingent upon the player or players reporting and passing a physical,” Signora said. 

If the player doesn’t report, the two teams can try to come up with a new agreement, or the trade could be called off. 

The only leverage that can be exerted against the player is the dreaded “five-day letter,” a precursor to placement on the reserve/left squad list. 

“The club sends a letter to the player warning him that, in five days, the club has the right to place him on the reserve/left squad list,” Signora said.  “It explains to him that if they do place him in that category, he cannot play again this season, etc.  After sending that letter and the expiration of the five-day period, the club does not have to place the player on the reserve/left squad list, but it may do so.”

If the trade conditions the transaction on Seymour reporting, the Pats would be the team sending the five-day letter.  If the Pats and the Raiders re-work the deal, the Raiders could in theory acquire Seymour’s rights without Seymour actually reporting, just as the Buccaneers did a couple of years ago with quarterback Jake Plummer.

The Raiders and the Patriots could hinge the precise compensation for the trade on whether Seymour reports to Oakland, and whether he lands on the reserve/left club list.

Once on the reserve/left club list, Seymour would be unable to play for anyone in 2009, and his contract would toll by a full year, with his salary of roughly $3.7 million applicable in 2010, if he decides at that point to show up.

So, basically, this thing could go in a lot of different directions if, as some think, Seymour will refuse to play for the Raiders.
 

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36 Responses to “Seymour could eventually get "five-day letter"”
  1. JaggedMark says: Sep 7, 2009 1:18 PM

    I always get the feeling that an unhappy Belichick threatens to send his players to the Raiders much like General Burkhalter threatened to send Colonel Klink to the Russian front.

  2. 8man says: Sep 7, 2009 1:22 PM

    I know this is all speculation at this point, but I guess RS is coming face-to-face with the prospect of not playing for the Patriots. Something he has threatened to do twice in his career already.
    So was he serious then or just playing a stupid game of roulette that eventually probably led to his ticket out of NE? He’d better show up in Oakland, because if he refuses I don’t want to see in NE gear again.
    These players better wise up. This is the one league where the tail doesn’t wag the dog.

  3. milehiclown says: Sep 7, 2009 1:22 PM

    I mean, who WOULDN’T be furious about being traded to the Raiturds? They are terribly mis-managed, sign total losers and have a coach that Blounts his own players.
    In other words: they make my Donks look like a model organization.
    The shock of going from first to worst must sting badly.

  4. SATAN says: Sep 7, 2009 1:23 PM

    Will he owe any money if he retires? (like Plummer)

  5. Abe Froeman says: Sep 7, 2009 1:24 PM

    Inteeereeeeesting

  6. LeeB says: Sep 7, 2009 1:25 PM

    Well, well. And I thought this was a done deal. I keep hearing how NE is a brainiac organization trading away their bigtime worn out pieces to dumb teams for their 1st round picks. When are these teams going to catch on???
    NE could end up with the 1st pick of the 2011 draft. I hope Seymour balks. There is time for some redemption Oakland, don’t do it.

  7. gameday says: Sep 7, 2009 1:35 PM

    Chowderheads in Cheatriotville beware. Your season is not going to go as you hope.
    10-6 is the final line with the defense you now have.
    Lets get the season going!!!!!! I cant wait to poke sticks at the retarded caged monkeys(Patriots fans) after each loss this season!!!!!!!
    No chance of another Super Bowl this year, so at least you wont have ANOTHER tainted trophy.
    Poke..Poke…Poke
    Cue the cage rattling monkeys in 3……..2……1

  8. TSE says: Sep 7, 2009 1:36 PM

    I usually take the position of supporting the team in contract deals, and when players play games to get contracts, they deserve things like this to happen to them. If you only care about the money, then don’t be shocked when you get created like an object, you made the choice to get traded to Oakland Mr. Seymour, it wasn’t anything the Pats did to you, you did it to yourself. I hope you enjoy your ever so slightly higher amount of money that you gained or will gain from your tactics with your new team. You shouldn’t complain since you took what was YOUR preferred option, so you should be happy right now.

  9. World Champs Raiders 3 Chargers 0 says: Sep 7, 2009 1:36 PM

    Once again Florio is starting rumors and speculation. No problems here except for Florio being a closet Charger fan, go visit Merriman in jail.

  10. VegasBronco says: Sep 7, 2009 1:38 PM

    @8man..sooooo right. Seems like less and less the prima donas in the NFL are wanted.
    No player is bigger than the team. No not even Payton Manning. Of course he would not put himself in that position.

  11. DynastyDriven says: Sep 7, 2009 1:49 PM

    gameday is funny, I’ve never seen someone so jealous of a team before!
    LOL!

  12. Fan_Of_ Four says: Sep 7, 2009 1:50 PM

    LMAO @ Belichek -General Burkhalter comparison.

  13. DynastyDriven says: Sep 7, 2009 1:51 PM

    gameday is funny, I’ve never seen someone so jealous of a team before!
    LOL!

  14. Joe in Toronto, Canada says: Sep 7, 2009 1:51 PM

    # milehiclown says: September 7, 2009 1:22 PM
    I mean, who WOULDN’T be furious about being traded to the Raiturds? They are terribly mis-managed, sign total losers and have a coach that Blounts his own players.
    In other words: they make my Donks look like a model organization.
    The shock of going from first to worst must sting badly.
    ======================================
    Your donkeys will be the worst team in the league this year, clown, mark it down.

  15. KingJoe! says: Sep 7, 2009 1:55 PM

    If I were Seymour I would refuse to play for the Raiders as well. That is the place players go to ruin their careers.

  16. Frank says: Sep 7, 2009 1:56 PM

    Gameday shows his ass again. Like I’ve said many times before about this guy: He’s a nitwit.

  17. steelers0523 says: Sep 7, 2009 1:59 PM

    gameday, I’m a steelers fan, and i hate the pats as much as the next guy, but you clearly have some serious issues that need to be dealt with. Do you really think that Patriot fans that read this website care at all about anything you say?

  18. cuban_commando says: Sep 7, 2009 2:01 PM

    My first reaction was GREAT!!!! We get a good player to upgrade our defense. Plus, he’s a high character guy that’s also a proven winner. Hopefully, he can show some of the under performers what it takes to win.
    But, then I realized that he only has one year left on his contract, and that we gave up a 1st round pick to get him. That seems like an awfully high price to pay for a guy with a lot of wear on his tires.
    As long as we can resign him and have him for MORE than one year, it’ll be a great move because Al Davis always blows the 1st round pick anyway. And the money those 1st rounders get really hurts the salary cap if they turn out to be busts.

  19. TFBuckFutter says: Sep 7, 2009 2:01 PM

    “TSE says:
    September 7, 2009 1:36 PM
    I usually take the position of supporting the team in contract deals, and when players play games to get contracts, they deserve things like this to happen to them. If you only care about the money, then don’t be shocked when you get created like an object, you made the choice to get traded to Oakland Mr. Seymour, it wasn’t anything the Pats did to you, you did it to yourself. I hope you enjoy your ever so slightly higher amount of money that you gained or will gain from your tactics with your new team. You shouldn’t complain since you took what was YOUR preferred option, so you should be happy right now.”
    It’s really not much different than Damian Woody, Ty Law, Lawyer Milloy, Deion Branch, and David Givens.
    Chased the money, and never attained the same level of team or individual success again.

  20. sactown81 says: Sep 7, 2009 2:03 PM

    I havn’t heard anything about Seymour not showing up in Oakland, except from that FATASS at SI.com. Lets face it, his opinion doesn’t count for much anyway.
    I understand Seymour not wanting to leave his comfort zone, but we all know uncle Al is going to pay him way more than he ever could have hoped for in NE.
    He will be at practice very soon if he picks up the phone and takes the payday, otherwise deal is off.
    The Raider line just got a whole lot better, and much more versatile. Both Kelly and Seymour can play DE or DT.
    War crushing San Diego ! ! ! !

  21. SmackMyVickUp says: Sep 7, 2009 2:05 PM

    Guessing it also hinges on Raiders getting an extension out of RS somehow. Not sure how that works in with the trade deal though.
    Really shouldn’t be too tough to play for 1 year, collect 3.7 mil and become a free agent.

  22. HarrisonHits says: Sep 7, 2009 2:12 PM

    gameday if the only joy you can get from the season is making fun of the Pats fans after a loss it tells me the team you are a fan of is going to lose far more games than the Pats. Enjoy your life in loserville.

  23. BP says: Sep 7, 2009 2:16 PM

    Yeah, Seymour could not report. He could also shoot himself in the head. Both make about the same sense.
    Sit out a year at age 30 to be in exactly the same position he is now and lose $4 mil? His earning potential would plummet. Who wants to pay big money to a 31 year old that hasn’t played in a year and has completely confirmed if there were any doubts that he is a pain in the ass? No way that greedy SOB will do that.
    gameday, you are a moron.
    The Pats had the 8th best defense last year with gobs of missed games by 7 starters. They are loaded this year on D. Wake up fool.

  24. mustbechris says: Sep 7, 2009 2:23 PM

    well, he ain’t retiring, and he ain’t getting put in the IR since there’s a 1st round pick involved.
    that leaves two options
    1. he doesn’t show up, trade gets called off, seymour goes to the pats
    2. this is all pointless speculation and he shows up in oakland and plays the season out.
    my money is on the latter.

  25. VonClausewitz says: Sep 7, 2009 2:36 PM

    So basically if he sits out he doesn’t get paid and we fastforward a year to the exact same situation. Hmm. One wonders if he’d have the same concerns joining the team if Ryan was the DCooord. I doubt it. Anyway, supposition aside it’s in his best interests to play for the Raiders for a year and then to hit the free market and get fair value. Football’s a business at the end of the day, albeit one where the player has essentially no leverage except during contract signage.
    I get that Seymour is upset. Who wouldn’t be? But it’s a business and Belichick is simply making a business decision. He realized that his division is going to be weak this year, so it’s an ideal time to bring in the new guard and use those first few games as a way of bringing them up to speed much like Matt Cassel was handled last year. Better to do it with a brand new core unit at the same time so as to establish that cohesiveness. Better to remove the crutch that Seymour would represent. Better to do it when one team in your div is struggling (the Bills) and another has a new coach and a rookie QB (the Jets). Given the turnover that’s happened lately with the Pats it was inevitable that at some time soon something like this was going to happen. It just turned out that this was the time. It’s nothing personal I’m sure.
    For the other teams, now is the time to hurt the Pats. They’re weak now and you could be seeing a sea change if their competitors recognize it and dismantle the team of the decade.

  26. lichnor says: Sep 7, 2009 2:36 PM

    You know, with the cowboy scoreboard being hit a few times with punts, I SUPPOSE it COULD, THEORETICALLY, come crashing down on the field.
    I mean, I think it’s highly unlikely for this to happen, but, my FRIEND says he thinks it’s a real possibility.
    So, let’s have 2-3 articles on the procedure which would occur should this happen. What, pray tell, would the NFL do in this scenario? What forms would be processed in case the cowboy scoreboard comes crashing down.
    And, would it be any different if this happened during a game? What forms are needed for that?

  27. TFBuckFutter says: Sep 7, 2009 2:51 PM

    If he doesn’t report, Tom Cable will punch him in the mouth.

  28. TFBuckFutter says: Sep 7, 2009 2:52 PM

    lichnor, I know you’re joking…..but after the practice bubble thing….it wouldn’t be surprising if the scoreboard did fall right the hell down.

  29. raideralex99 says: Sep 7, 2009 3:10 PM

    Actually the other 30 teams are paiding RS to stay home … no 2011 first pick for the Pats.

  30. Gary says: Sep 7, 2009 3:24 PM

    RS appears to be a pin-head……he is not going to show, the deal will be called off……pats send him to the eagles for a 5th round pick!!!

  31. superius says: Sep 7, 2009 4:20 PM

    1st round pick for Seymour.
    Ha!
    I love BB. If this happens it is going to be brilliant.
    I love how despite finishing at the top of the standings every year they manage to reload with new talent.

  32. Greg says: Sep 7, 2009 4:29 PM

    Hey gameday and lichnor, really? You have to go there? You making jokes about people getting killed or badly hurt?
    Real classy.

  33. CT Pats Fan says: Sep 7, 2009 5:45 PM

    He’s just angling for a “no franchise” agreement from the Raiders at the end of the season, IMO. Once he gets that, he’ll show, play like a beast and then make double his salary with the Broncos or Chiefs.

  34. PossibleCabbage says: Sep 7, 2009 8:11 PM

    “The Pats had the 8th best defense last year with gobs of missed games by 7 starters. They are loaded this year on D. Wake up fool.”
    You do realize that their schedule last year was mostly made up of:
    the AFC West
    the NFC West
    the rest of the AFC East twice.
    So that last year they played the #29, #28, #27, #25 (twice), #24, #23, #16 (twice) offenses while Denver and Arizona both laid an uncharacteristic egg on offense in Foxboro, and giving up 38, 30, 28, 18, and 33 to the rest of the teams they played?
    We’re not exactly talking about one of the all-time defenses last year for the Pats, and losing Seymour certainly won’t help for this year when they play some better teams in their non-divisional games.

  35. raiderjoe says: Sep 8, 2009 2:03 AM

    Un-freaking-real ! It seriously is. The Richard Seymour trade was finalized and announced on Sunday. Seymour is not in Alameda on Monday, less than 24 hours later and immediately the anti-Raider sports press (Peter King, PFT) start spouting that Seymour is pissed about the trade and is refusing to go to Oakland. If Seymour had been traded to any other team but the Raiders, the fact that he hadn’t arrived within 24 hours of the trade being announced wouldn’t be a story. At all. But it s the Raiders so of course NOBODY wants to go there so Seymour will refuse to accept the trade accoriding to SI.com. Never confirmed with the Raiders or the Patriots. Spokesman for NE says they are not aware of any problems with Seymour and the trade. Raiders HC Cable says he spoke to Seymour and he wants to be a Raider. For gods sake its barely been 24 hours. I’m not surprised the isn’t in Oakland yet. He will be soon.

  36. Vikingborn70 says: Sep 8, 2009 12:42 PM

    I can see it now….
    Lamont Jordan, Randy Moss, Derrick Burgess, Andrew Walters (in camp) around Richard Seymour all in a circle talking about how happy they are to be out of Oakland.
    Randy – “Dawg, I just stopped playing. That place is so f’d up”
    Jordan – “I hear you, Randy. I was so jealous when you left….your stats went up immediately, back on the ProBowl roster.”
    Derrick – “I went to a Pro Bowl there, and I still had to get out. They will never ever win again with count Davis, there”
    All including Seymour – “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA”
    …and then the news…..

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