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What if Richard Seymour doesn't show in Oakland?

A league source has raised an intriguing concept with us.

It’s established, via Peter King of SI.com, that former Patriots defensive lineman Richard Seymour is “angry” about the trade that sent him into football’s literal and figurative Black Hole.

A good friend of Seymour’s told King on Sunday, “I would not be surprised if he doesn’t report.”

We’ve heard the same sentiment.  So the source posed a great question.

What happens if Seymour doesn’t show?

It’s not completely out of the question.  Seymour held out not once but twice from the Patriots during his time there, and Seymour’s agent is — you guessed it — Eugene Parker, who currently is embroiled in one of the nastiest rookie holdouts in recent memory, as the agent for 49ers receiver Michael Crabtree.

So, if Seymour refuses to report to the Raiders, either because he doesn’t want to play for the Raiders or because they’re not offering him the kind of contract he wants, what happens?

Because all trades hinge on the player showing up and passing a physical, Seymour wouldn’t become a Raider unless he enters the building.  Thus, it apparently would fall back to the Patriots to take action against Seymour aimed at coaxing him to honor the last year of his current contract.

Under that contract, he’s due to earn $3.685 million this year.  That’s more than $216,000 per game he’ll lose if he doesn’t accept the trade, in addition to any other potential fines that could be imposed.

If he stays out past Week Ten his contract will toll for a year, keeping him from becoming an unrestricted free agent in what looks to be an uncapped year.  But this situation can’t linger for two months.  At some point, the Raiders will reel in that first-round pick, and the Pats will be forced to slay the fatted calf for a son who was made involuntarily prodigal.

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49 Responses to “What if Richard Seymour doesn't show in Oakland?”
  1. Steve-O says: Sep 7, 2009 10:15 AM

    Is Emmitt writing your headlines now?

  2. EnforcerSU says: Sep 7, 2009 10:15 AM

    I believe you mean what IF RS doesn’t show in Oakland?

  3. marshall70 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:16 AM

    Change the is to the if in the headline my friend

  4. Hooby says: Sep 7, 2009 10:16 AM

    “What is Richard Seymour doesn’t show in Oakland?”
    That’s a very intelligent question, Mr. Florio.

  5. Krow says: Sep 7, 2009 10:17 AM

    Great theatre… but the reality is that neither he nor that fool Crabtree can pass on the money.

  6. saturn111 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:19 AM

    Trebek: “The Oakland Raiders will stink in ’09 whether or not *this* particular event transpires regarding their recent pickup from the Patriots.”
    Florio: “What IS Richard Seymour doesn’t show in Oakland?”

  7. FireJerryJones says: Sep 7, 2009 10:22 AM

    Aside from the JEOPARDY headline… he hasn’t shown up and he has yet to speak with the Head Coach… this deal could fall apart.

  8. chaz says: Sep 7, 2009 10:24 AM

    You should of left the “is” on the original post. These things prove to us its really you still writing these posts, and not some nbc-bot doing your chores.

  9. The Rural Juror says: Sep 7, 2009 10:26 AM

    Saturn beat me to the punch!

  10. Fan_Of_ Four says: Sep 7, 2009 10:26 AM

    If he doesn’t show will his status add to our current unemployment numbers ? So he has to move to California and make millions of dollars, talk about inhumane treatment. Poor RS, poor poor RS.
    FU RS

  11. Frank says: Sep 7, 2009 10:27 AM

    It’s all about the money with Seymour. He’s got his rings and his pro-bowl recognition. Now he just wants his money….. No blame, that’s just the way he sees it.
    Those who hold out twice and give indications that they will once again be looking for a huge contract should expect the team to protect themselves.
    Hell, I’ll live in Oakland and play punching bag for 3+ million for one year.

  12. dunkingonuts says: Sep 7, 2009 10:32 AM

    Nice story Florio! Where did you get it ESPN?
    Tool……

  13. gameday says: Sep 7, 2009 10:34 AM

    Hope he doesnt show up for the first 10 weeks. After 8 weeks Al can yank the first rounder back, the Cheatriots dont have his services for half the season, and dont get the draft pick.
    Go ahead Seymour, stick it to Belicheat!!!!!!!!!
    Patriots 10-6 and no Super Bowl this season.
    But then again,their other Super Bowl appearances dont cont either.

  14. jzimmpa says: Sep 7, 2009 10:35 AM

    The Trebek remark is classic.
    If Richard Seymour doesnt show up for the Raiders, how many days must pass before they can reverse the trade with the Patriots?
    It has happened before (Jake Plummer with the Bucs).

  15. apage53915 says: Sep 7, 2009 10:36 AM

    As a Raider fan I hope he doesnt show then like Florio mentioned in the earlier post, maybe the league can take over the team.

  16. 8man says: Sep 7, 2009 10:37 AM

    This is part of the reason the Pat’s dealt him. They don’t want to deal with him holding out or negotiate with him at the end of the year.
    In this league, you can win or get paid. You can rarely do both. Richard you have already won, now you can get paid. Richard, play in Oakland or don’t get paid!
    Good riddance!
    Let this be a lesson to other potential locker room malcontents.
    In BB we trust!

  17. DynastyDriven says: Sep 7, 2009 10:39 AM

    “and the Pats will be forced to slay the fatted calf for a son who was made involuntarily prodigal.”
    Trying a wee bit too hard eh Florio?

  18. Alpheratz says: Sep 7, 2009 10:45 AM

    He’ll get over it.
    He gets to live in great weather, maybe help a team back to respectability.
    The guy had no problem holding out when it was in his best interest.
    See ya.

  19. HarrisonHits says: Sep 7, 2009 10:49 AM

    Oh geeze you grammar nazis are killin’ me. When you type many many things every day you are going to make a few typos.
    “the reality is that neither he nor that fool Crabtree can pass on the money.”
    How can you even begin to compare the two and what makes you think Seymour needs the money that badly ? He’s already been paid many millions as opposed to Crabtree who hasn’t been paid a dime.
    Not a good analogy.

  20. Tinbender says: Sep 7, 2009 10:49 AM

    I’d like to see the 49′s trade the rights to Crabface to the Raiders, that would be justice.

  21. Michael James Keane says: Sep 7, 2009 10:52 AM

    Prodigal means “wasteful,” not “lost.”

  22. manyhappyreturns says: Sep 7, 2009 11:02 AM

    “At some point, the Raiders will reel in that first-round pick, and the Pats will be forced to slay the fatted calf for a son who was made involuntarily prodigal.”
    i didnt know kurt warner worked here.
    ///////////////////////
    and btw florio, thanks for bouncing me. but – i came back.
    apparently the complaints board has gone underground, and as weasels complain, the peecee board capitulates.
    folks, they dont just bounce people for using any of the 7 words. they bounce them for not being peecee and/or having the temerity to defend oneself. or point out obvious bs.
    /////////////////
    also, u might want to check out what wikipedia says about you, herr florio. they seem to think you arent even up to the self-applied standard of ‘internet hack’.

  23. mcgrathist34 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:02 AM

    somebody is a Mad Men fan, they used the fatted calf reference last night

  24. Steeler4life says: Sep 7, 2009 11:05 AM

    I wouldn’t show. They suck and they are the laughingstock of the league

  25. DaBillsDaaahhhBills says: Sep 7, 2009 11:09 AM

    saturn111 says:
    September 7, 2009 10:19 AM
    Trebek: “The Oakland Raiders will stink in ’09 whether or not *this* particular event transpires regarding their recent pickup from the Patriots.”
    Florio: “What IS Richard Seymour doesn’t show in Oakland?”
    NOW THAT IS WORTH A CRAPPY COPY OF QBOTF. Well done, Saturn.

  26. Gary says: Sep 7, 2009 11:10 AM

    Who cares what Peter King has to say……totally biased and would never have anything good to say about the raiders. If any other team pulled off this trade Peter and the rest of the national media would have spun this into a brilliant trade for both teams, blah, blah, blah……

  27. JimmySmith says: Sep 7, 2009 11:11 AM

    Can you blame the guy, he wants to play pro football, not for the Raiders.

  28. DaBillsDaaahhhBills says: Sep 7, 2009 11:13 AM

    Wow Florio, one little typo, and their tear you to pieces. Amazing isn’t it?
    Hey Everyone! Mike Florio can make mistakes. Like the rest of us, he is prone to an error whether small or large every now and then. Like the rest of us, he is a human being…
    …Though the robot on the PFTV segments might suggest otherwise.

  29. Wrekagain says: Sep 7, 2009 11:30 AM

    Seymour already sent text messages to several of his NE teammates including Ty Warren and Vince Wolfork that he’ll see them the 2nd week in November during the Raiders bye week to go pack up some stuff and get his kids out to Oakland to change schools.
    Peter King is fat donut eating pig that reports accurately about 20% of the time at most. Why in Gods name does this idiot still have a job?

  30. jeremyb91 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:32 AM

    Florio- Yesterday it was totally apparent to you that this was a horrible trade for Oakland. You refused to look at any of the positive aspects of the trade like usual because of your bias towards Oakland.
    How do we not know that Al Davis and Eugene Parker are working on a contract extension? Al’s not going to simply bring in a “rental” player for one season and give up a 2011 1st round pick.
    Everything you’ve written has been pure speculation.
    If he signs a contract extension and reports to camp then this is a boon for the Raiders because their biggest weakness becomes a strength with the addition of Seymour.
    You have to admit with a solid D line and the best CB in the game in Nnamdi Asomogha the Raiders defense is dramatically improved.

  31. magsdad1 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:34 AM

    Suck it, Trebeck!
    I’ll take JapAn us relations for 100, Alex.

  32. jeremyb91 says: Sep 7, 2009 11:36 AM

    Florio- In addition to my previous comment I’d like to give you a link to an article about the trade from a local beat writer, but here’s the comment first:
    “It’s possible the Raiders will renegotiate Seymour’s contract before he arrives, a person in the front office said.”
    Hmmm, this really sounds like a smart game plan by Oakland to ensure they get his extension before he arrives and the trade becomes …. official.
    Here’s the link by the way:
    http://www.contracostatimes.com/raiders/ci_13282431?nclick_check=1

  33. Alpheratz says: Sep 7, 2009 11:43 AM

    gameday, I checked with the League.
    The Patriots’ Super Bowl wins still count.
    The Eagles lost. It will always be this way.
    Accept it, son.

  34. manyhappyreturns says: Sep 7, 2009 11:45 AM

    and we all know the raiders are worse than the lions from 2003 on.
    how bad must one be to have 2 fewer wins in 6 years than a team that took one season off from the win column…

  35. darrius_heyward-bey-butterfingers says: Sep 7, 2009 11:49 AM

    “manyhappyreturns” needs to be banned for not knowing what wikipedia is what an idiot. If I don’t like something I read on wikipedia, I can change it- ANYONE can change it! And do so anonymously! Lol what “they” think what a dumbass ban him again please.

  36. psyseb says: Sep 7, 2009 11:58 AM

    The Raider’s website says that Seymour is due to report “later today”.

  37. Insomniac says: Sep 7, 2009 12:07 PM

    If the trade wasn’t completed, how could the Patriots sign Kendall Simmons?

  38. bonecity7 says: Sep 7, 2009 12:12 PM

    Leave it to sixburghdude to use a buddy’s computer during a NAMBLA meeting to satisfy his other obsession….getting his buddy’s IP address banned too!!!

  39. Clock_Is_King says: Sep 7, 2009 12:23 PM

    Who cares?

  40. JustDieBaby says: Sep 7, 2009 12:32 PM

    The Al Davis Commitment to Excrement continues. The talent on this team is emptier than a Biafran stomach sack in Sally Struthers’ back yard. Richard let me be the 1st to welcome you the the NFL’s version of a third world country. Welcome to Al Davis Hell.

  41. Ray Guy says: Sep 7, 2009 12:43 PM

    So we have a team that can’t stop the run and drafts crappy in the first round. This isn’t conjecture, but fact.
    Would you rather have:
    A) Robert Gallery (2cd overall) as your first round choice (even though he is now a very overpaid guard, but finally a good one) and not the building block left tackle he should have been.
    B) Michael Huff (7th overall) as your first round pick who is in danger of being cut every year.
    C) DHB who will lead our track team to first place at the “worlds” but is being outperformed by Louis Murphy (4th rounder) despite being paid gazillions.
    or
    D) Richard Seymour a proven winner and awesome DT in lieu of another first round pick, who at best may make the team and add to our track team.
    Since Al is straped for cash, I assume Seymour will come cheaper than a 1st round (high) choice in 2011. Since we haven’t stopped the run for 6 years, this is the only sane move the old buzzard has made in a long time, since we brought in Sam Adams.
    What good is the track team when they sit on the bench all game while our defense makes heroes out of third string running backs.
    I say FINALLY a good move.

  42. DoomsDayD75 says: Sep 7, 2009 12:46 PM

    At some point, the Raiders will reel in that first-round pick, and the Pats will be forced to slay the fatted calf for a son who was made involuntarily prodigal.

    Keep your crazy religious stuff to yourself, Flanders. I had to go look up what this craziness is supposed to mean.

  43. Florios-Lawyer says: Sep 7, 2009 12:49 PM

    “…bonecity7 says: September 7, 2009 12:12 PM
    …during a NAMBLA meeting…”
    I had to google that.
    You seem to be rather familiar with it though.

  44. m2002m says: Sep 7, 2009 1:08 PM

    Of course he quoted a tv show, did you actually think he has any originality in him?

  45. A_MAC says: Sep 7, 2009 1:10 PM

    what if peter king gets to finally blow the entire patriots organization in real life? Media whoreS.

  46. World Champs Raiders 3 Chargers 0 says: Sep 7, 2009 1:33 PM

    To compare Seymour to Crabtree because of a deusche bag agent, is insulting to Seymour. Seymour has a golden opportunity to help the Raiders make the playoffs and terrorize the Pats.

  47. JSpicoli says: Sep 7, 2009 1:48 PM

    Hey Mike “Henny Penny” Florio.
    The dude is reporting, he’ll probably have a new contract, and no one is taking over the team.
    Suck IT!

  48. Treadstone says: Sep 7, 2009 2:06 PM

    Gameday,
    Get a life! The wins count! Grow up and move on!
    Sincerely,
    Everyone that comments of PFT

  49. pbergeron says: Sep 8, 2009 2:07 PM

    Mike, You got this all wrong…
    “Because all trades hinge on the player showing up and passing a physical, Seymour wouldn’t become a Raider unless he enters the building.
    Thus, it apparently would fall back to the Patriots to take action against Seymour aimed at coaxing him to honor the last year of his current contract.”
    Wrong, the Patriots have traded the contract rights of Seymour to the Raiders. Seymour is the Raiders problem now. The transaction has all ready appeared on the NFL League report.
    New England will get their pick, Oakland will need to file a 5 day warning letter that if Seymour does not show he will be placed on the
    Reserve/Not in camp list. If this happens, he
    will not be paid for 2009. He can’t play in 2009
    for any other team, and he will not be eligible for
    free agency after the season. He will still belong to the Oakland Raiders. The trade can only be
    voided if he fails his physical. It is not voided because he doesn’t show up for his physical.
    The Raiders are the morons who signed off on
    the trade without knowing if the player would
    report. That is why most teams don’t sign off
    on the trade until a contract extension is already
    in place. The Raiders did not do that. This is
    all on them.. Patriots still get the draft pick if
    Seymour does a no show.

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