Comments on: Source: Seymour thought he was getting a new deal in New England

By: Florio Borio

Florio Borio — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:41:18 +0000

Once again, the Pats fans posting here show that they are indeed the lamest and most ignorant fans around. The rest of us will have the last laugh as the Pats continue their inevitable decline into mediocrity and beyond.
This year’s schedule will be brutal to them and Brady will be laying on his back on Sundays a whole lot more than he ever did.
LMAO

By: crise40g

crise40g — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:53:57 +0000

Dick Seymour should just go home and pout like a little girl for the season, no, for the rest of his life. No one will miss him. Pats let him go and the Raiders never had him.

By: Alpheratz

Alpheratz — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:43:01 +0000

formula,
If he were to retire, the Raiders would still own his contract if he were to unretire, and he would be back in the exact same spot.
I’m sure Richard has been reviewing all of his options in detail. I think he’s in a box, though.

By: TominNH

TominNH — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:55:41 +0000

Kissbillsring:
BINGO!! Seymour KNEW he wasnt going to get a huge contract from the Patriots. And he TOLD a few players he thought his time with them was coming to and end. Seymour was hurt the past 2-3 years, missed quite a few games. I think the Pats would rather give the good extension to Wilfork, and younger and VERY good player. I agree, I think Seymour is angry it’s the Raiders and doesnt wanna be franchised.
HOWEVER, Seymour was a GREAT PLAYER for the Pats, and won 3 rings!!! The Pats fan are forever thankful for his great play and wish him well.

By: World Champs Raiders 3 Chargers 0

World Champs Raiders 3 Chargers 0 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 17:06:55 +0000

The common denominator between Crabtree and Seymour is their dumb azz agent Eugene Parker. He should be banished to a date with Shawne Merriman at his pad , aka “The New Neverland Ranch 2″.

By: Joepup

Joepup — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:46:52 +0000

RaiderVa couldnt have said it any better.
All you other wannabe Raider fans (ie radrntn & encinitasraider) that try defending the Raiders “honor” by screaming “raiderhater” at everyone are only perpetuating the raider fan stereotype. My guess is that youre the “new” generation of raider fans that didnt grow up with the Raiders when they were originally in Oakland, and had one of the best home crowds in the NFL. I’d guess that half the idiot raider fan wannabes became fans because they “liked the colors”. I live in the bay area, attend games, and was a fan when they were in Oakland, moved to LA, then came back to Oakland.
As far as this trade goes, I expect big Al to get something done soon, or move on without Seymour. The way I see it, its just a matter of whether or not Seymour will make it in time for the Chargers game. Or worst case, he’s not gonna be a Raider. Al is not stupid, and is not renting him for just 1 year. He will franchise him every year if he needs to, for as long as he needs him. Just ask Nam and Woodson. The pick will not be wasted. If Seymour doesnt show at all, Al gets his pick back, plain and simple. If you dont understand that, you havent been paying attention.
On a side note, I think its hilarious that players like Burgess & other former raiders, think theyre better off going to Pats. Other than Moss, none of them are actually better off or even paid off better by the Pats. A Walter (cut), Jordan (cut), Gabriel (cut), Burgess (TBD, but my guess is he gets cut after another down year).
Im tired of hearing how the Pats get over on Raiders over and over. Yes, Moss deal was onesided, but lets not forget how he dogged it in Oakland. And other than Moss, how else have the Pats got over on Big Al?
You dont hear legit raiderfans touting how the Pats couldnt do anything with Plunkett, yet he won 2 Superbowls with the Raiders. Why? Because its obvious he wasnt in a position to succeed with Pats and it didnt work out. Thats the NFL for you.

By: Raiders757

Raiders757 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:24:05 +0000

hotchick says: September 9, 2009 1:23 PM
I like how Raider fans think that calling someone a “Raider Hater” is an insult.
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I love how fat nasty coke whores call themselves Hotchick on the internet.

By: samlv4

samlv4 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:20:35 +0000

Never thought I’d agree with a Raider fan but RaiderVA you hit the nail on the head.

By: TomBradysBaby

TomBradysBaby — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:05:32 +0000

I’ve never been a huge fan of Seymour. I think he was very highly over rated. His two hold outs really helped show his true colors, and being sent out to the Raiders where he can squeeze out one last big pay day should be good for him.

By: beau

beau — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:56:11 +0000

No one wants to be in Oakland huh….you think if it is so bad IN Oakland the players there would know right?
Ask the best CB “Nhamdi” and the best Punter in the league “Leckler” how bad it is….
Admit it Raider Haters….the bashing is about over because the Raiders are on the verge of kicking so AZZ in the near future and we’ve been patient and you’re outta time…..

By: texasPHINSfan

texasPHINSfan — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:43:32 +0000

Eugene Parker is clearly a common denominator in a LOT of player problems lately. this guy should have his agent license reviewed, seriously.

By: formula42

formula42 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:22:50 +0000

Could he retire for the year and then unretire after the contract runs out?

By: thumper/

thumper/ — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:21:50 +0000

radrntn.you peckerhead, fact is seymour held out twice on the pats and said its not personnel just business(any love to his team then).. well this is just business too…
he showed a lot of class then and now…….

By: RaiderVA

RaiderVA — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:15:19 +0000

Also, you guys keep bashing Seymour for not reporting… when…
NEWS FLASH::::: NO ONE KNOWS WHATS GOING ON!!!!
Only the people involved do and they aren’t saying ANYTHING so all these conspiracy theories and bashing of Seymour, Raiders, Pats is ridiculous…
Although you can bash Parker, cuz he is a tool…

By: RaiderVA

RaiderVA — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:09:42 +0000

Why do some of you keep throwing this “play this year and wait for a new contract from another team” card…
AD may make some crazy decisions, but he is not dumb enough to give away a 1st round pick for a 1 year rental. Those of you who think this are fools.
Another thing, if they are working on a contract.. then he WILL be a Raider. One thing no one can deny about AD is that he PAYS for the players he WANTS and is loya to his players. So money will not be an object. Look at the deals he’s done over the last 2 years. Nnamdi, Lechler, Kelly, hell he even paid our best Special Teams player the most money ever given to a strictly Special Teamer…
It may take a couple of days to hammer out the details, but if the ONLY thing that is holding this up is a new deal, then we won’t be waiting too much longer.
And if it they can’t work a deal… Seymour will NOT report to take his physical, and the trade is null and void…
No biggie to the Raiders… The Pasties are the one’s that need to be worried..
Our (Raiders) 2 scenarios…
1. He reports with a new deal and we have a solid Dlineman (which we were in DIRE need of) for at least 3-6 years…
2. He doesn’t “pass” his physical, he’s shipped back to NE, and we keep our 1st round pick…
But here’s the kicker… if he goe back to NE, the entire league knows that the Raiders are willing to shell out a 1st rounder for a proven Dlineman… so we’ll be hearing a LOT of offers, better offers at that…

By: MilesinME

MilesinME — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:59:09 +0000

Bottom line is, the Pats made a great trade, one that any team in the league in the same situation would jump on. And if Seymour ever lives up to his end of the deal, it may turn out to be a great move for the Raiders also.
It’s a bunch of crap that Seymour thought he was getting a deal from the Pats. Seymour made it real clear he was going to the highest bidder and EVERYONE new that would not be the Pats, not with Wilfork and Brady to sign.
Seymour is just highlighting why the Patriots are getting rid of him. Sooner or later he’ll report to the Raiders or he’ll sit out this year, make $0 and still be a year away from free agency next year.

By: Alpheratz

Alpheratz — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:43:45 +0000

Seymour is not reporting to the Raiders because he wants his 6 million from PATS.
Good llllluck with that, brother.

By: radrntn

radrntn — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:36:30 +0000

Slike I said a class less organization like the pats, and a back stabber of a coach, shows no love for one of their best players. Seymour Butts will be telling coach belladick to pay up.
Fact is after he gets paid by the pats, then he is going to get paid by the raiders…..in other words seymour butts is getting paid a lot more then the 3 million + he would have got if the Pats didn’t stab him in the back.

By: Kiss Bills Rings

Kiss Bills Rings — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:30:58 +0000

This story is crap…comments from other players on the Patriots, durring aninterview with the Boston Globe,when asked about their thoughts on Seymour being traded were: he told me he had a feeling that he might be getting traded durring the off season…..Seymour is just pi$$ed it’s to the Raiders….HUGE EGO blow!!!!
He was NEVER going to be offered an extension at the end of this year & EVERYONE that knows ANYTHING about the Patriots & their contract situations with a ton of other key players at the end of this season knows they have much bigger fish to land extensions with…..HEADLINE IS CRAP!!!!!!

By: tj.52

tj.52 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:25:38 +0000

Seymour is acting like a sniveling little bitch that keeps repeating – “no, I don’t wanna go!”
Message to Seymour: get over yourself. You can’t hold the team hostage when you’re playing well and then bitch and moan when you get cut or traded. If you wanted to stay, there was a way to get it done. But this isn’t your hometown, remember? Get lost.

By: mnoise

mnoise — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:24:59 +0000

It doesn’t hurt Seymour to wait a few days before he reports to the Raiders to see if he can get a mega contract extension a year before he goes to free agency or at worst have a basic framework to work off of in free agency next year if he ends up going back to the Pats. It doesn’t hurt the Raiders for Seymour to wait a few days as they can see if they can lock up a great player for a few more years that can really help them. Otherwise it’s just a one year rental for a first round pick if Seymour reports to the Raiders right away. It doesn’t hurt the Patriots if Seymour waits a few days because at worst they get back a very good player who is reportedly in the best shape of his career and motivated by the contract year. The league doesn’t want to comment on the situation because they want the situation to work itself out.

By: HarrisonHits

HarrisonHits — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:20:20 +0000

“Typical New England BS. Belicheat strikes again. Maybe the Patsies and their overrated front office isn’t what it’s cracked up to be. We all know the model franchise is in the Steel City. Doubtful the Rooneys would ever treat a player of Seymour’s magnitude like that”
BS ? Only a Steeler fan would think trading a 30 year old that’s held out twice in the past and wants a huge contract for a high 1st round pick as BS. Seymour is slowing down and not worth the 10 mil a year he’s going to want on his next contract.
But hey, maybe the Steelers can trade the Raiders for him so you and the rest of the yellow towel waving idiots can wipe his rear end for him so he feels like he’s being “treated nicely”.
Here’s a newsflash for ya. People get treated a hell of lot worse every day in their jobs than the Pats ever treat any player. Seymour has made enough money for the next several generations of his family never need worry about paying the bills or living a good life. If you somehow perceive that as being treated poorly you aren’t very smart.

By: Dan

Dan — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:13:54 +0000

If Seymour doesn’t report to the Raiders, he will have to play for 3.7M next year or he will have to pay back the Patriots 4.5M in signing bonus money.
If he reports to the Raiders, he gets 30+ million in a new contract next year.
Its a no brainer for Mr Seymour.

By: Patsfanin Philly

Patsfanin Philly — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:11:27 +0000

Seymour Option #1
1) Show up and hope to either get a long term deal w the Raiders or not be franchised by them next year
2) Tell the Raiders you’ll show up if they agree in writing not to franchise him (he has no leverage here)
3) Don’t show up.
If he doesn’t show up…….and either team sends him the 5 day letter
he risks being put on the inactive list for the entire year, losing $3.6 million in salary, having to pay back the prorated portion of his signing bonus (1/4 of $5 million or $1.25 million) and having his contact tolled (frozen) so that he’ll be in the same position next year, one year further away from free agency….when he will then be 31..
From the Patriots perspective this deal is done and he either plays for the Raiders or doesn’t play for anybody this year.
The Raiders need him more right now than the Patriots need a 2011 draft pick now…..I see them (Raiders) caving in, either giving him a monster deal or agreeing not to franchise him……….

By: whywerule

whywerule — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:08:32 +0000

lol at all the haters – you have no idea what it is to have leverage. Seymour does not need to report to the Raiders – he has enough cash to retire….
We assume that to be true, although it is possible he has been stupid with his money. Lots of athletes have travelled the “stupid with money” road.
If he is contemplating retirement then that should improve his leverage with the Raiders if he wants one last big deal, and they would still lose their pick in 2011 even if he retires. Whether or not the trade would “count” if Seymour retires or refuses to report is still unclear to me. As two of us pointed out , Jake Plummer retired after being traded to the Bucs, and that trade still counted.
At any rate, I don’t see this situation improving his leverage with the Pats who, by trading him, have essentially announced they are ready to play without him and without any return for him for two seasons.

By: Jackal138

Jackal138 — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:06:45 +0000

Looks like Cheatin’ Bill Belichik managed to find another sucker to lie to.
Maybe Bill just “misunderstood the rules” of honesty when you tell someone they’re going to stay, and then trade them?

By: Fan_Of_ Four

Fan_Of_ Four — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:04:42 +0000

Poor poor Dick, he can always retire and tell the Raiders to stick their millions. I almost feel bad for him. 14000 people a day are losing their health insurance and poor Dickey wants more money for a new Lamborghini.
Phuck EWE Dickey.

By: mnoise

mnoise — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:59:19 +0000

Maybe Seymour was told by the Raiders not to report yet. If the Raiders don’t get an agreement on a contract extension they could void the trade for not reporting or failure to take a physical and get their pick back. The Raiders would not lose anything but if Seymour agrees to an extension they instantly get better and have a solid nucleus on defense to build around (w/Tommy Kelly) and attract future free agents to. If the Pats get Seymour back they would get a motivated player in his contract year who reportedly is in the best shape of his career. It would make more sense if the Raiders had a contract extension in place before Seymour comes on board. Then the trade doesn’t look like a one year rental for a first round pick anymore.

By: NormanPaperman

NormanPaperman — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:48:01 +0000

lol at all the haters – you have no idea what it is to have leverage. Seymour does need to report to the Raiders – he has enough cash to retire.
And, therein lies the rub – it sounds like Seymour is willing to walk away – and I suspect most in his shoes would opt to do the same thing. We don’t walk away from our jobs because we need the income – Seymour does not have those restrictions.

By: slutnuts

slutnuts — Wed, 09 Sep 2009 13:44:48 +0000

seymour held out in new england twice. this is them getting him back. let that be a lesson to any other players in new england. hold out at your own peril. they’ll find the worse team in the league to send you to.
this is the epitome of selfish athlete syndrome we’ve come to know in the last 10- 15 years of pro sports. the notion that they are bigger than teams, or the league, and can dictate where they play.