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Young thinks Crabtree doesn't want to play in San Fran

Hall of Fame quarterback Steve Young, who starred for the 49ers in the late 1980s and early 1990s, said on Wednesday night’s SportsCenter that Crabtree possibly doesn’t want to play for Young’s former team.

Though it was difficult to tell whether Young was speculating or pontificating, he’s the first person to raise the possibility that the lingering impasse might not be about money.

Part of the problem, as Young explained it, is the quality of the quarterbacks in San Francisco, and the potential impact of a mediocre passing attack on Crabtree’s off-field earning potential.

So stay tuned.  Just as it appeared that Crabtree might be getting ready to cave, Young has painted a much less flattering picture for the Niners.

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  1. CardHock says: Sep 9, 2009 7:08 PM

    When Eli Manning did the same thing the year he was drafted, or said he was going to, nobody gave a shit.
    Most likely because 1. He is white. 2. Hes a Manning.
    Another example of why black athletes are treated differently than white athletes.

  2. Wartooth says: Sep 9, 2009 7:09 PM

    Yeah Young might be on to something, they really do have crappy QB’s in San Fran! Why don’t they just resign Garcia and call it good?

  3. FireJerryJones says: Sep 9, 2009 7:13 PM

    “Mike Singletary says he had Michael Crabtree nearly in tears”.. headline from June training camp.
    No surprise that this kid is too soft for Singletary and wants to go somewhere where he’ll be babied.

  4. GoBrowns19 says: Sep 9, 2009 7:15 PM

    I hope he doesn’t sign and he gets picked in the 3rd round next year. Who would waste a pick on a person like this?

  5. Al Davis Wont Die says: Sep 9, 2009 7:16 PM

    Young is right. Aaron Brooks/Andrew Walter/Kerry Collins did nothing for Moss when he was in Oakland. Then as soon as he got a quality QB — BOOM, record breaking season. But Crabtree isn’t at that stage, and should just f**king get on the field and prove himself already!!

  6. Alpheratz says: Sep 9, 2009 7:16 PM

    Screw this, time for another Seymour post, get the hits back up.

  7. trikee says: Sep 9, 2009 7:18 PM

    this has always been my assertion that crabtree doesn’t want to play for the 49ers but for a different reason.
    i believe he doesn’t want to play for a hard nosed coach like singletary. if you recall during OTA’s, crabtree complained he was made to play when he hadn’t been cleared by doctors. i think between that and singletary’s coaching style, the diva wants an easier situation

  8. touchdowntrabo says: Sep 9, 2009 7:20 PM

    How about some quotes Florio?
    I love Steve and I think he’s a good analyst… and this isn’t bad logic…
    but sometimes the guy just talks too much.
    Shutup Steve!

  9. ZemDog says: Sep 9, 2009 7:22 PM

    Yeah, Young is on to something. They haven’t had a good QB in San Francisco since 1992.

  10. Golden_Niner says: Sep 9, 2009 7:25 PM

    So are they saying its ok for these young kids to hold out for a team they want to play on, as well as, how much money they think they deserve?
    What… does the Red and Gold not match the color of his panties?

  11. John says: Sep 9, 2009 7:25 PM

    I think Crabtree is coming to the realization that he doesn’t want to become the next Mike Williams.
    He has already lost valuable time from missing the preseason and he has lost bargaining power, in my opinion.
    He might as well cut his losses and try to prove on the field that he is better than Darius Heyward-Bey.
    Look at what Calvin Johnson did his rookie year with the Lions? It is possible to be a good receiver with an average Quarterback.
    I think that’s just an excuse if he is concerned about the Quarterback situation.

  12. csloan99 says: Sep 9, 2009 7:25 PM

    For a guy who doesn’t want to play in SF, it doesn’t make sense for him to be playing in SF while awaiting his contract. He’d be in LA or Miami if that’s what he was after.

  13. AdamEagle5 says: Sep 9, 2009 7:30 PM

    CardHock, that is stupid.
    Eli was traded on draft day. If he were holding out a day before the season started, he would have been viewed very differently.
    If Crabtree said on day 1 that he’s not playing in SF and they traded him, it would already be forgotten.
    Also, MC is way better off not playing in SF. Young is right that they ain’t got sh!t at QB and won’t any time soon. He certainly won’t get worse playing a year in the UFL or CFL but could land on a much better team. Hey, if he waits 2 yrs he could land on the Pats LOL!
    You know… if Seymore ever shows up in Oakland

  14. shake&bake says: Sep 9, 2009 7:32 PM

    Really he does not want to play in Frisco? You could see it in his face when they called his name at the draft. He had the same look on his face that everybody gets when you go out to dinner for you birthday and the waitresses come sing you happy birthday. He didn’t look happy at all. It was a smile with a “this blows ass” kinda look. And yea Frisco is not the best place to play thats for sure not in the last 16 or 17 years anyway.

  15. yeah.. says: Sep 9, 2009 7:35 PM

    Sit his ass and let him rejoin the draft next year. Pick him up in the 3rd round and get him for 1m a year.

  16. elroy says: Sep 9, 2009 7:35 PM

    “When Eli Manning did the same thing the year he was drafted, or said he was going to, nobody gave a shit.”
    BS. Lots of people criticized him. But hey, here’s one difference for you that might have passed you by:Eli was signed way before the season started.

  17. Bubba Maximus says: Sep 9, 2009 7:39 PM

    CardHock, don’t take this the wrong way, but you’re an idiot.
    To refresh your memory: Eli made it clear BEFORE the draft that he didn’t want to play in San Diego. The Chargers drafted him anyway, and eventually gave in to his demands for a trade.
    To refresh your memory again: media members across the country ripped Eli (and Archie) for their “manipulation” of the system. (Since you’re too stupid to use Google, here’s a link to one of the MANY newspaper columns that criticized Eli: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050925/news_1s25nflcol.html
    Comparing Eli’s actions to Crabtree’s is like comparing apples to cinder blocks. In other words, CardHock, your can stick your race card up your ass. Please do your fellow Americans a favor and have yourself spayed and/or neutered so that you do not contaminate our great country with the fruit of your ignorant loins.
    Thank you, and may God bless America!

  18. AutumnWind999 says: Sep 9, 2009 7:42 PM

    B.S.
    It’s about the money in the contract. This is just rambling speculation.

  19. PDXNinerfan says: Sep 9, 2009 7:43 PM

    Lame argument and if true he should sign…most speculated that the reason SF traded in the draft was to have the two 1st round picks next year for a possible move to get the next big QB. (I’ll refrain from commenting on that strategy.)
    Shaun Hill has shown that he can win and should be given a chance. Calvin Johnson didn’t complain and was in a similar situation with mediocre QBs.
    For me it’s not just the QBs, but more the OC and I am a bit fearful after this year’s search/hire in SF.

  20. DrewD says: Sep 9, 2009 7:43 PM

    Hold up wait, a minute on the Eli comment. He told the Chargers before the draft ever happened he would not go to the Chargers. From the very get go.
    Eli was also bastardized by the media as a cry baby and he should just go with the team who picks him. They also claimed the only reason he was taking the stand he was is due to his family. You sir are incorrect in your statements.
    This is all speculation by Steve Young with no proof. If I remember correctly, Crabtree wants pick 6 money. I have heard nothing about him not wanting to wear a 49er uniform.
    Infract wasn’t he crying earlier in the offseason because he was not allowed on the field? Please explain how you are making this correlation?

  21. Jim Rome says: Sep 9, 2009 7:43 PM

    @ HardHock
    Ridiculous! Way to bring out the Race card on a Non Race issue. It’s people like you that continue to make Race an issue in this country. We now have a Black president of the United States and you’re still hell bent on the white man being out to get you. Ridiculous. Maybe just maybe it wasn’t that big of a deal with Eli because he’s #1 a QB #2 a first overall pick #3 Peyton Manning’s little brother (you got that one somewhat right). Crabtree is a fragile WR who is not as good as many may think. Ridiculous!

  22. Anrkist says: Sep 9, 2009 7:43 PM

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  23. Tenebrous says: Sep 9, 2009 7:44 PM

    Hey CardHock, the two situations are not analogous; Eli did not want to play in San Diego – period. It was not about the money, or that he felt he should be paid more than his draft rank. Conversely, it seems that Crabtree has made his beef about the money – he wants to be paid where he feels he should have been drafted, rather than where he actually was drafted. In other words, CardHock no one is treating these two cases differently because of the color of the athlete’s skin, but rather because the two situations are not the same.
    Sad… very sad, that someone looks to race rather than substance to explain an issue such as this – unfortunately, this type of fallacious reasoning is far too common in some circles.

  24. xscottx says: Sep 9, 2009 7:45 PM

    where is Mike Leach to defend his diva now?

  25. VoxVeritas says: Sep 9, 2009 8:02 PM

    “he’s the first person to raise the possibility that the lingering impasse might not be about money.”
    Sure. I should get paid for this stuff. You may not like the delivery but you cannot deny that I definitely have my shit together.
    “I don’t think he wants to sit out the 2009 season. I’m not sure he wants to play for the 49ers.” – Me, over a month ago.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/06/crabtrees-plan-has-a-fairly-large-flaw/

  26. Free_Tramopoline says: Sep 9, 2009 8:05 PM

    After acting like such a dink the last 6 weeks, who the hell else is going to want that loser?

  27. Kidekk says: Sep 9, 2009 8:06 PM

    @CardHock
    hold on……*thud, thud thud thud*………”AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH”…..just had to take my place on the pile
    Your assertion that it is because he is black is akin to idiots who claim that the “schism” was due to the black players supporting Tavaris because he was black. It’s dumb and sensationalist.

  28. moswesley says: Sep 9, 2009 8:13 PM

    “When Eli Manning did the same thing the year he was drafted, or said he was going to, nobody gave a shit.
    Most likely because 1. He is white. 2. Hes a Manning.
    Another example of why black athletes are treated differently than white athletes.”
    Not even a Giants fan, but this blurb is ridiculous!
    Great job pulling the OJ defense.
    Eli’s people were able to pull off a trade because ANOTHER TEAM was actually willing to pay a steep price for his services.
    Now that we’re a few years down the road, it doesn’t seem like too bad of a move, with the Superbowl victory an all.
    Unfortunately for Crabtree – besides the fact that his last name isn’t Manning – he’s a wide receiver.
    NFL lore is peppered with big time draft busts. A lion’s share of those busts have been wide receivers.
    Crabtree has all the warning signs — foot injury, underclassman, inflated stats from a shotgun spread system, cocky and flashy.
    On top of all of this, he isn’t a burner, and doesn’t have Moss/Calvin Johnson size, so the physical freak element is also missing.
    If Crabtree wants to force a trade, he should learn to throw the ball, or Eli’s agent!

  29. Free_Tramopoline says: Sep 9, 2009 8:23 PM

    Way to try and make this black-white issue, CardHock. It wasn’t about the money for Eli at all, it was about where he wanted to play. I hate it so much when people like you act like an ignoramus and make every damn issue about skin color.
    People don’t want Mike Vick to play? It must be because he’s black and not that certain people are appalled at what he did to his dogs and is still able to come away from the situation making millions.
    Brett Favre being welcomed back? Well, if he was black then everyone would have told him to “get lost” and no team would want him after how his season ended last year.
    McNabb not knowing a game could end in a tie, (even though he’s a professional athelete and is paid millions of dollars to know the rules of the game he plays)? If he was white, people would have just chuckled and shrugged it off, but he’s black, so the “man” had to make him look stupid.
    I could go on and on. I just wish that people like you would give the whole black/white thing a rest. All it does is perpetuate the stereotypes that make you angry to begin with. What’s wrong, don’t you wish that people could be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character….
    Hmm.. now where have I heard that phrase before?

  30. CardHock says: Sep 9, 2009 8:33 PM

    I am only going by what this post says, and that is steve young saying he doenst want to be a 49er.
    Also Eli knew the chargers wanted him, and crabtree had no idea who was going to draft him, when in all actuality he expected to be drafted WAY higher.
    So before you go shitting on me some more, take some time away from your roofing job or painting gig and realize what I am talking about. According to steve young this isn’t about money, its about the team. And Eli tried to pull the same bullshit and threatened to hold out if the chargers drafted him. If Eli would have not been traded and kept to his word of going back into the draft, I think the criticism would be far less.
    P.S. In san fran do they call it aids or gaids?

  31. Whiskeytangofoxtrot says: Sep 9, 2009 8:41 PM

    Even T.O. wasn’t DOA (Diva On Arrival), it took him a few productive seasons to become full of himself. At least he had proven he can play at this level before he went off the deep end. This JAMF hasn’t even stepped onto an NFL field, and he’s already “too good” for his draft position and associated contract offer. I hope he sits out and gets drafted at the bottom of the 3rd round by Detroit next year, gets offered bottom-of-the-3rd money, and doesn’t know whether to shit or go blind. Hopefully this guy’s career is over before it even starts. He doesn’t deserve to play in the NFL with his attitude.
    To the idiot playing the race card – others have already said it well. Put that thing back in the deck, and get your head out of your ass.

  32. SuperGlue says: Sep 9, 2009 8:53 PM

    You don’t gamble with 16 million bucks. A lot can happen in 1 year… car accident, arrested, illness, another injury, etc. Clearly this CrabHole guy is a dope, a diva, he’s lazy and he is not committed to football. It’s all about money, personal gain, statistics, etc.

  33. the real deal says: Sep 9, 2009 9:00 PM

    @CARDHOCK
    thanks, for making the rest of the black community look stupid and ridiculous and for embarrassing all blacks with your stupid nonsense and stupid thinking.
    nothing was made because Eli got his stuff sorted out on draft day. i despise Eli for being a baby, but he got traded and did not linger into the season unsigned!!!
    this is no longer the 1950’s do Tiger, LeBron, Shaw all get treated unfair for being black..
    Stop being stupid, you don’t deserve to be black.
    The sad thing is that, blacks are now looking more racist than ever, with stupid comments like yours and 98% of blacks voting for obama a record high amount of votes by blacks. Are we all blinded by the color of ones skin?

  34. Free_Tramopoline says: Sep 9, 2009 9:05 PM

    CardHock says:
    September 9, 2009 8:33 PM
    “So before you go shitting on me some more, take some time away from your roofing job or painting gig and realize what I am talking about.”
    ———————————————–
    OK, fair enough. Let’s see…what did you say…?
    ———————————————–
    CardHock says:
    September 9, 2009 7:08 PM
    “When Eli Manning did the same thing the year he was drafted, or said he was going to, nobody gave a shit. Most likely because 1. He is white”
    ———————————————–
    You’re making a race issue out of something that’s not a race issue, and you’re a turd.
    Period.

  35. DrewD says: Sep 9, 2009 9:08 PM

    CardHock, once again sir you are making no sense. I am a Graphic Designer, I have helped with roofing and painting due to home ownership and I know plenty of people in the business who are less ignorant than you.
    So Eli forced a trade BEFORE the draft. Notice the before…We still have not heard anything from Crabtree about not wanting to play. This is speculation. SIMPLE AND PURE SPECULATION. You have no proof he doesn’t want to play in SF.
    So what if he thought he should have been picked first. So did Reggie Bush, Ryan Leaf, Barry Sanders and in other sports Michael Jordan. What does this argument mean? Everyone thinks they should have been taken sooner. Does Aaron Rogers think he should have dropped as far as he did or how about Brady Quinn? Maybe both of these guys should have been paid the money for a spot people thought they should have been drafted in.
    Really dude, really. This is your argument? What happened to your
    1. He’s white and 2. he’s a Manning argument in your second post? Nothing to do with color of skin. Has to do with who took him where in the draft.
    What about Crabtree crying in the preseason because Singletary would not let him on the field because of his injury? What about that. Seems he wanted to play for them at that moment. This is a guy who thinks he is should be paid more than he is being offered (nothing wrong with that) but at the same time if he sign that contract he will not be struggling to put food on his families plate.
    #10 money is nothing to shake a stick at.

  36. CardHock says: Sep 9, 2009 9:16 PM

    Im not black.

  37. Raider Pride says: Sep 9, 2009 9:38 PM

    Since every one is speculating as to why he does not want to play in San Francisco…..
    Perhaps…. He just does not want to play in the city of San Francisco…… And it has nothing to do with the 49’rs or the coach?
    Perhaps… He is just a homo-phobic racist who hates Chinese people, the smell of fish, sour dough bread, who is politically very far right, has a fear of earthquakes….. And really does believe there is an actual police officer in San Francisco named “Dirty Harry.”

  38. BasicInstinct says: Sep 9, 2009 9:41 PM

    1) It’s the agent Parker’s fault
    2) He’s injured
    3) He doesn’t like the Team
    4) He doesn’t like the QB
    5) He doesn’t like the OC
    6) He doesn’t like the Head Coach
    7) He doesn’t like the city
    Anything else?

  39. 49ersrevenge says: Sep 9, 2009 10:02 PM

    We do miss Steve Young.To the idiot who said they did not have a good qb since 1992, check your facts.

  40. mannyfresh209 says: Sep 9, 2009 10:05 PM

    you guys are shitting me right? the reason he’s holding out is to avoid playing in sf?
    lol the reason he’s holding out is because he didn’t get to go #5 in the draft and get #5 money.
    you really think he wanted to go to OAKLAND? with russell at qb? come on now… ask seymour what’s good in oakland. it’s 30 minutes from where i live and i’ll tell you…not a damn thing but chicken and waffles

  41. FastEddy415 says: Sep 9, 2009 10:10 PM

    I admit 49ers dont have the ideal QB situation at this time but It will change. Alex Smith is done, Shaun Hill is one year gap QB. With Nate Davis developing and 2 number one picks next year, our QB situation will rise from the ashes!
    CrabTree needs to get in and develop a working relationship with N.Davis. We all know qb situations can be fixed in a heartbeat! Ask the Bears. No more Excuses! Get IN

  42. LTC Pain says: Sep 9, 2009 10:19 PM

    CardHock says:
    September 9, 2009 9:16 PM
    Im not black.
    No, you’re a racist and a friggin idiot.

  43. Majik Man says: Sep 9, 2009 11:41 PM

    CardHock says:
    I’m not black.
    And by black he means intelligent.
    Seriously try to keep up. Eli was in camp and ready to play in week one. Crabtree isn’t signed, and doesn’t look to be signed by season start.
    People aren’t ridiculing Crabtree because he’s black, they do it because he’s a fricking idiot, being offered millions to play a game, and he’s being a bitch about it because he’s going to a bad team.

  44. Sonoco says: Sep 10, 2009 12:05 AM

    The kid made a pre-draft visit to Niner HQ on April 6, 2009. #1. Why would an agent/player schedule a pre-draft visit with a team he didn’t want to play for and #2 Why would a player/agent schedule a pre-draft visit with the team holding the #10 pick if they had no intention of accepting #10 money? Sounds like bad faith . . . now we have a hostage crisis.

  45. Sonoco says: Sep 10, 2009 12:11 AM

    Here’s a link to Young’s first weekly radio segment on KNBR with Ralph & Tom – 9/9/09
    He talks about Crabtree some more . . . and repeats his feeling that Crabtree simply “might” not want to be a Niner.
    http://www.knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/12103.mp3

  46. MasterShake says: Sep 10, 2009 12:28 AM

    Steve Young only has a voice because he was placed in a system that already worked and would be a good fit to take over for the “old” guy. If he stayed in Tampa or in the USFL nobody would give this jackass the time of day. He should just shut the hell up and throw the football. Wait, he can’t throw anymore, so just shut the hell up.
    I hated Montana with a passion, but this dickhole takes the cake.

  47. FumbleNuts says: Sep 10, 2009 1:03 AM

    I just believe in the best interest for both parties involved that CrabLegs, sits out the season and starts the draft process all over again.
    The guy doesn’t want to play for a tough coach or crappy QB’s.
    Bye Bye then.

  48. OscarMooseFarmer says: Sep 10, 2009 3:47 AM

    trikee… you’re not as misinformed as cardhock, but youe’re still wrong.
    Crabtree wasn’t upset that he was made to play before being cleared. He was upset because Singletary WOULDN’T let him run routes before he was cleared.
    But sure, your way is funnier so lets go with it.

  49. crise40g says: Sep 10, 2009 4:03 AM

    Al Davis was a genius regarding his passing on Crabby in the recent draft.
    Crabby needs to drop that agent of his and, just like Seymour, sack up and play.
    As for the black white issue. What a load of crap!

  50. psychjohn says: Sep 10, 2009 7:40 AM

    Crabtree is a complete moron. How does he know if he is a great receiver, this guy can’t even figure out how tall he is. If he does know, than he is a liar, so Niners don’t believe a word coming out of his mouth. There is little comparison with Manning, it was about the organization he didn’t want to play for. Crabtree burnt that bridge by saying he didn’t want to be drafted by Oakland. Poof, you got your wish. When you exercise that kind of power it comes at a cost Michael, and I mean less money. Thems the rules.
    Look at what we actually know(not what Crabtree claims) His sprint times are below average, and he has not shown he his over his injury. As for the phantom teams his agents claim want to trade and pay him, I bet none of them are teams holding a top ten pick. The NFL has seen plenty of bust receiver in the last few years. Two years from now, Hakeem Nicks will prove to be the best receiver in the 09 draft. With Crabtree’s attitude he will be lucky to be drafted next year between slots 15-28.

  51. wiley16350 says: Sep 10, 2009 8:43 AM

    cardhock the problem with your racist statement is that it is completely false. Eli was blasted for the stunt that he pulled. Nobody was praising him for what he did, so your argument has no merit.

  52. mike says: Sep 10, 2009 9:24 AM

    Crabtree is a damn fool. Sign, get your money, then take it from there. Hell, I would sign for minimum if I could.
    These wages are completely out of control and I hope the owners stand up during the next CBA talks. It’s one reason why it’s so expensive to go to games anymore. I stopped going to the games years ago because the fans are getting the biggest “screw you” job by these PSL’s. It’s a con game that rivels what the government is going to do with health care.
    And I’m so damn sick of blacks playing the race card. You don’t want equality, you want preferred treatment.

  53. force3001 says: Sep 10, 2009 10:49 AM

    Hey..Hackhock, or whatever you freaking name is…It’s obvious that Crabbypatty can’t think for himself, and only think’s of himself. He has an opportunity to play in the N.F.L. That alone should be enough. The day’s of the prima donna are over in this league. Players that are proven dont want any part of the I, Me, don’t care about you attitude. He is unproven and is in no position to make demands and is obviously not intelligent enough to realize that. Race is NOT an issue here and you know it so why dont you take your racist attitude to some Farrakhan fan site and HOLDOUT for your reparation check……Jackass!

  54. Kidekk says: Sep 10, 2009 11:51 AM

    force3001 says:
    September 10, 2009 10:49 AM
    Hey..Hackhock, or whatever you freaking name is…It’s obvious that Crabbypatty can’t think for himself, and only think’s of himself. He has an opportunity to play in the N.F.L. That alone should be enough. The day’s of the prima donna are over in this league. Players that are proven dont want any part of the I, Me, don’t care about you attitude. He is unproven and is in no position to make demands and is obviously not intelligent enough to realize that. Race is NOT an issue here and you know it so why dont you take your racist attitude to some Farrakhan fan site and HOLDOUT for your reparation check……Jackass!
    ———-
    You call him a racist then make a racist/generalistic statement. Smart.

  55. ZemDog says: Sep 10, 2009 12:43 PM

    Hey, is that a monkey I see on Steve Young’s back. I thought he was able to get it off. I guess I was wrong.

  56. rileyg1 says: Sep 10, 2009 1:36 PM

    michael have you considered that you were the no. 1 reciever in college football in 2008 and were drafted tenth and rey malaluega was defensive college playr of the year and slipped to the second round. after his initial dissapointment he signed his contract with the plan to prove his doubters wrong!TIME TO MAN UP MICHAEL! if you are as good as you imagine think how vindicated you will look when you prove your doubters wrong. two of the top players in the 2008 draft! one is facing his demons with confidence and taking the challenge headon. the other is trying to avoid contact on and off the field. no one doubts your confidence in yourself and your abilities. what we doubt is you commitment to the game that can make you a rich PLAYER or just a rich MAN. TIME TO MAN UP PLAYER!!

  57. nick bradley says: Sep 10, 2009 2:25 PM

    Crabtree doesn’t want to go to Frisco because Jerry Jones has told him that he can play at home in Dallas if he sits out a year. Will somebody pleez call the Cowboys on tampering??? This is absurd.

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