Comments on: In Cleveland, a $3 bottle of water can cost a lot more than that

By: Mariann Pepitone

Mariann Pepitone — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:38:37 +0000

It should be the responsibility of the player to pay for the water and if he didn’t so be it. Its not the business of anyone else. The fine should be deleted. What is the matter with management of the Browns. Do we have sick people in that office? They need to grow up. $3 for a bottle of water is out of control anyway. I can buy a gallon of distilled water for $l.

By: sceddie

sceddie — Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:20:58 +0000

hey florio, I guess it’s ok to convey the message that stealing is ok, right?

By: BigTimeStillersFan

BigTimeStillersFan — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 22:33:46 +0000

I hope it was some high quality h2o.

By: a sensible person

a sensible person — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:48:37 +0000

smokin’ – pot smoke pot buddy

By: Edgecrusher

Edgecrusher — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 16:28:32 +0000

Did anyone consider that this may have been a Kangaroo Court Fine? I know some of you used to play organized sports. We had kangaroo court in summer travel baseball in high school, you could get fined for anything. It wasn’t thousands of dollars of course, but a couple bucks here and there.

By: UFL rules the NFL

UFL rules the NFL — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 15:18:46 +0000

Way to go floho
Another cheap attack the Raiders.
Cable is gonna box your itchy ears.
Tom Tubbie just finishe another box of twinkies.

By: Tim

Tim — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 14:34:25 +0000

Check for a “concealed compartment” near the label.

By: UFL rules the NFL

UFL rules the NFL — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:44:31 +0000

Rapist, Dog abusers, Wife abusers and thieves.
Welcome to the NFL.
What a joke.

By: TheGhostofBernieKosar

TheGhostofBernieKosar — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:35:25 +0000

lame.

By: tom coughlin's coat holder

tom coughlin's coat holder — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:35:20 +0000

the reporting of this story only makes me feel more strident that florio prints these stories to generate more page”hits”.
where’s the objectivity here?has anybody asked the browns their side of the story?
this story is being pushed on us so florio can bolster another ongoing diatribe concerning agents and their willingness to do business with the browns organization.florio,please name these agents that you talk of,who are they?
this story is just another bull shit grab at money on florio’s part.

By: couldbeworse

couldbeworse — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 13:00:16 +0000

If only Phil Jackson had taught Kobe the same lesson……(cheap shot, Laker hater).

By: MikeFlorio'sSource1

MikeFlorio'sSource1 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:21:20 +0000

Wow did I just hear Mike “A*shole” Florio name a source. Throw Mike a cookie, this is a first, unlesss he calls his d*ick Michael Silver.

By: SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK

SaintsBucsPanthersSUKK — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:20:20 +0000

A big guy like Shaun Rogers would need to rehydrate often, day & night. He’s my edumacated guess as the culprit.

By: moral-authority

moral-authority — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:04:43 +0000

We all know this has happened before. You can’t teach a grown man a lesson for bottled water in the hotel room. The fine is an act of “Stupidity & senselessness”. The Browns have other ways to teach lessons to their players. Mangini didn’t get fined for his football team not being prepared to play The Minnesota Vikings. Maybe he was researching the rule book instead of the play book. Never heard of a coach acting like this moron. The Browns are doomed with his instincts. Keep up the good work Cleveland. Oh, and, say goodbye to LB23!

By: TSE

TSE — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:03:37 +0000

There’s more to this story that we just don’t know. Maybe he had more than just a bottle of water, maybe he didn’t pay for food either. Maybe he had an attitude problem and lashed out his mouth when he was told he was going to be fined and they got him for that too. Maybe he trashed the hotel room. Maybe they have a team policy that says if you try to skate on food and beverages then you pay the entire cost of the man-hours that the team staff has to put in to reconcile expenses for the whole team. etc. etc.
He wasn’t necessarily fined $1701 for just the bottle itself.

By: Skip O'Rourke

Skip O'Rourke — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:01:15 +0000

A lesson taught to a child by his or her parents. Not Eric Mangini to a grown man. Sounds like a personal conduct rules violation and penality accessed… Who on earth wants to play for Eric. He should have listened to his babies God father Billy B., stayed a little longer in New England and learned more how to be a better clone.

By: ChinaDog

ChinaDog — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:55:06 +0000

He made rookies go to a charity event on a bus. He fines players for not paying for things. He shuts out the media like Belichek. Oh no. Oh no. $1,701 is a pittance of these players’ salaries. A coach who enforces policies in a draconian way? Yes, all his players will revolt, I’m sure, because no coach has ever done that before, and the Jets were an awful, awful team under Mangini. This is all proven by immutable fact. Mmmm-hmm.
If he wins, he stays. Time will tell. Verdict on the Browns is out until at least midseason.
Also, this overpaying for players theory is bunk. Anything based on what an agent says a year before the draft is bunk. If Cleveland has to overpay for free agents, it’s because it’s a small market and some big players don’t want to play in small markets, period. Not as big a deal as in MLB/NBA, though. The other reason? We don’t win. That’s kind of a weak spot for Cleveland, but it sure isn’t news.
“I would put one of my players on another team’s practice squad before putting him on the Browns.” – Probably because the Browns have shown a zero-tolerance attitude for BS, as evidenced by cutting Shaun Smith and Louis Leonard, and trading KW2 with very little discussion. Are there enough players around to make Mangini’s vision work? Maybe. You don’t hear a lot of discontent from New England. And don’t tell me you don’t think Belichek hasn’t done similar draconian things.
If you can find evidence of a player directly turning down the Browns because of his agent saying that they’re a bad atmosphere for him, I’d be interested to read it.

By: VoxVeritas

VoxVeritas — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:51:33 +0000

Pardon me, I should have read the part where it’s the hotel that had the expensive water!

By: VoxVeritas

VoxVeritas — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:50:32 +0000

“Wow…imagine expecting that grown men earning millions of dollars to pay for their water?”
Better yet imagine an NFL franchise scalping it’s own players for water. Three bucks for a bottle of water, seriously? Gee, do they let players bring their own drinks into the stadium? Probably not. Oh no, you’re got to drink the $3 water or the $5 cup of Gatorade. I wonder if they make the players cough up some cash during the games when they get thirsty?

By: Akshun

Akshun — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:47:16 +0000

Kinda reminds me when i buy a $3 beer at a stadium for $8

By: thehouseofho

thehouseofho — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:31:57 +0000

To everyone saying this is a good example of discipline or saying the player was an idiot to not pay for the bottle of water, have you ever taken anything out of the mini-bar of a hotel room? Every single hotel will have whatever was taken out of the mini-bar billed to the room, not the person staying in the room. In fact, there aren’t too many hotels that will tell you what your incidentals are until a couple of days after you have checked out because they have to take stock of the mini-bar and the closet.
So what makes you think the player could even have paid for the bottle of water he took out of the room? Why don’t you idiots try claiming you only took one bottle of water out of the mini-bar and only that one bottle of water before the hotel staff can take stock.

By: Ryan35

Ryan35 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:29:53 +0000

Refs cheat for patriots? Looks like 3rd and 1 to me, why is it all of sudden 1st down? Why have you said nothing about this Florio? Dont you cover things objectively?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxA95K5gP9s

By: Gam(e)_is_on

Gam(e)_is_on — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:28:28 +0000

Cheap asses ! Right down the alley of how Cardinals run their organization ! http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/03/03/cardinals-stiff-former-coaches-out-of-super-bowl-bonuses/

By: SpartaChris

SpartaChris — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:19:06 +0000

Where did they get $1701 from? Is there some magic formula saying “If you commit a $3 crime, your fine is $1701?” Is that extra dollar the processing fee?
I’m all for disciplining players, but I think a $1701 fine for a $3 bottle of water is way excessive. I think it would be more appropriate to embarrass the guy. Bring it up in a team meeting and make him give you cash for it. Continue to bring it up until he pays you. I think the desire not to be made fun of would serve as more of a deterrent and wouldn’t be so excessive.

By: browns

browns — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:16:27 +0000

One game in and you have the coach crucified already, time will tell.

By: Bob Loblaw

Bob Loblaw — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:13:50 +0000

And how much would he have fined the same player for cramping up during the preseason game due to not properly hydrating?

By: simple_simon1

simple_simon1 — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:10:36 +0000

Pathetic!!!! Enough said

By: kosarisking

kosarisking — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:55:16 +0000

Wow…imagine expecting that grown men earning millions of dollars to pay for their water?
If he doesn’t win a game, at least Managini isn’t treating these overbllown babies as divas.
Maybe the a-hole who stole the water will think twice in the future.

By: BornSlippy

BornSlippy — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:54:47 +0000

Yalk about micro management. Belichick is nothing like this . Mangini acts like a tyrant.

By: max

max — Sat, 19 Sep 2009 10:54:22 +0000

Too bad Favre isn’t still his QB, the two deserve each other.