The North Texas Football Cathedral has significantly fewer than 100,000 seats. But with the concept of the “Party Pass,” the walkways and platforms allowed Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to cram another 30,000 souls into the place.
The result? A regular-season record crowd of more than 105,000.
The problem? The powers-that-be have realized that 30,000 is about 20,000 too many.
And so, per the Dallas Morning News, the Cowboys have agreed to reduce the number of Party Passes to 10,000.
Which means that there won’t be fans in the six figures at future games.
Which means that the arch-rival Redskins will continue to draw more fans on a consistent basis to FedEx Field, which holds more than 90,000.
But there reportedly might be some exceptions, according to the report.
We’re not sure when those exceptions might arise, given the problems that officials experienced controlling the flow of bodies to platforms in the end zones of the facility. At one point on Sunday night, the Cowboys and public safety officials decided to throw their hands in the air — apparently because fans were close to throwing fists.
“We believe that it was a better decision to go ahead and let people in
versus confronting them in a situation out [on] the plaza based on the how
the crowd dynamic was evolving,” Assistant Fire Chief Don Crowson said, per the Morning News.
In other words, they completely lost control of the situation.
And so the Party Pass concept fared even worse on Sunday night than the football team that the new facility has managed to overshadow.
But at least the video board is still only ninety feet from the floor.
Hmmm.
They had problems controlling an SRO crowd of over 30,000, did they?
The “dynamic evolved,” did it?
Nobody could have predicted that.
Nobody at all.
Jerry Jones’ palace reflects what a pompous ass he is. Why in the world would he have players walking through a crowded bar before they go out on to the field? It’s like treating players like meat. Seems to be more like Rollerball 2050 instead of NFL football. Some of his innovations are great, but there has to be a limit.
And it was a shame the Cryboys lost, too.
So to break a record Jerry created a Life Safety issue just to stroke his ego and his wallet
Sounds like he will be done around a half a million a game
Good to see Jerry’s house of cards is already falling down
“We believe that it was a better decision to go ahead and let people in versus confronting them in a situation out [on] the plaza based on the how the crowd dynamic was evolving,” Assistant Fire Chief Don Crowson said, per the Morning News.
What he is ACTUALLY saying here is that, “Jerry and I spoke about the safety concerns and then I found a big wad of money stuffed in my pockets. I felt it was a bigger concern to get that money to the bank than worry about the possible safety of all the fans”
For Jerry Jones being a smart man this(not including letting Jimmy Johnson go) is the biggest clusterf-ck he has ever created. Correct me if Im wrong but “America’s Team” has never really had an issue with potential blackouts but now the stadium is so big that not only will they have empty stadium seats but they now risk losing fans to the Texans because the Cowgirls possibly wont be televised. Has no one thought of this? Did anybody do their homework? How many people has Jerry fired over this mess? Will Lassie find Timmy in the Well? Stay tuned next week for the thrilling conclusion of…”As The Romo Turns….Over The Football.”
Ol’ Jerry is crafty. He doesn’t want to subsidize fans in Minnesota, but he doesn’t mind having Texas fans subsidize his monument to himself. The $39 party tickets only guaranteed that, if there wasn’t room inside the stadium, fans could stand outside the stadium, watch the game on TV, and buy overpriced food and drink. I expect Mr. Snyder will be selling party tickets next season.
LOL,,,typical Dallas debacle!! Not only is the team a joke, the building that houses them is a joke too!! Where’s Mr.Vox now??
Maybe they can use the practice tent…oh wait, that blew down! Pretty good braintrust over there in Dallas!
I think Jerry will try to ignore the safety issues over $ issues, and use a shoehorn if needed, cramming the place with people stupid enough to pay to block the walkways and platforms.
This fine and dandy but it isn’t a Marion Barber injury update, which is the only thing Cowboy related that I care about.
“Which means that there won’t be fans in the six figures at future games.”
Yeah there will. They can put up to 100,000 seats in the stadium if they wish by adding the end zone bleachers and scooting the other seats, which sit on rails and currently provide more elbow room than any other seats in the NFL, a little closer together. That’s exactly what they’ll do for the Super Bowl. You’d know this if you had done the proper research.
“In other words, they completely lost control of the situation.”
Of course. People were arrested by the thousands. Millions died. Three babies were born in the plaza. Only one lived. Don’t eat the brown acid!
“But at least the video board is still only ninety feet from the floor.”
And nobody hit it. Wow, imagine that. Maybe Jeff Fisher should have spent more time making his 0-2 team better, less time trying to get his name in the papers by having his crappy punter try to hit it.
“And so the Party Pass concept fared even worse on Sunday night than the football team that the new facility has managed to overshadow.”
Those players should be glad theyre overshadowed because without a doubt that is one OVERRATED roster. They are the Yankees of the NFL. You put all of thoses stars on seperate teams and they all have a chance to win a Super Bowl but together they dont have a frozen margaritas chance in hell. And all of the in-denial Cowboys fans can say theyre just one good head coach away but the truth is, the damage is done. Cower cant save that team, Shanahan cant save that team, Gruden cant save that team. Its over. You have to start all over with a sound foundation.
Still pimping the Skins any chance you get, huh Mike?
Pathetic. Hilarious that you still think the foreSkins are headed to the Superbowl. They’ll be lucky to get 4 wins this year.
So, I guess the English guy who last week posted his concern that there might be soccer style riots in the SRO section, wasn’t so far off base after all.
“Sounds like he will be done around a half a million a game ”
What does that even mean? Speakee Engrish?
“For Jerry Jones being a smart man this(not including letting Jimmy Johnson go)”
What do you mean “letting Jimmy Johnson go”? You can’t make a guy stay.
The Cowboys oversold the party pass under the premise that everyone would get in the building. Shame on the Cowboys.
The party pass is a great concept, and hopefully moving forward the Cowboys will realize that and not try to oversell the passes only to stop people at the gates and force them to watch from the plazas just outside the building.
“”America’s Team” has never really had an issue with potential blackouts but now the stadium is so big that not only will they have empty stadium seats but they now risk losing fans to the Texans because the Cowgirls possibly wont be televised.”
Because of what? How are you equating empty stadium seats with fewer party passes?
Lessee, throw 30,000 brain-dead rednecks together, add a boatload of alcohol, watch as their shit team goes down in flames again, stir & poof.
Who could have saw this coming?
“Ol’ Jerry is crafty. He doesn’t want to subsidize fans in Minnesota, but he doesn’t mind having Texas fans subsidize his monument to himself.”
That’s because the stadium will give back to the taxpayers. The Vikings are nothing but an anchor. They’ll never give anything back to anybody as long as they’re in the situation they’re in.
“The $39 party tickets only guaranteed that”
$29.
“if there wasn’t room inside the stadium, fans could stand outside the stadium, watch the game on TV, and buy overpriced food and drink.”
So what? It’s not your money and there doesn’t seem to be a shortage of people with the desire to buy those tickets.
“I expect Mr. Snyder will be selling party tickets next season.”
Or maybe he’ll charge admission to practices. Again. Thereby assuring that any team that wants to put a spy in their practices can do so openly simply by purchasing a ticket.
“So, I guess the English guy who last week posted his concern that there might be soccer style riots in the SRO section, wasn’t so far off base after all.”
Right, because that’s exactly what happened. There was a European soccer-style riot. Damn football hooligans.
Hy Florio, when are you going to write a story about the Eagirls defense giving up the most points at a home game since the 1962 season when the Packers beat them 49-0?
“In other words, they completely lost control of the situation.”
On and off the field.
The few at the top are always the ones that complain about revenue sharing. The reality is, revenue sharing and the salary cap are the main factors for parity in the NFL. That is what has propelled the NFL to the top of the sports/entertainment mountain.
Screw with that and the pile falls apart like a house of cards.
I’ve hated the Cowgirls since I first started following football in the early 60s, hell I think I hated the cowgirls before they even existed! Jerry Jones just made it easier. Schramm and Landry were gentlemen that I just disliked due to affiliation. Jones is greedy dickhead, out to buy supremacy in the NFL.
“But there reportedly might be some exceptions, according to the report.”
Exceptions meaning the next time Jerry needs to make a splash.
Good to see the debut of the people of texas’s monument (as tax money paid for the vast majority of it) to jerry’s ego fell so flat. he wanted the Giants, he got the Giants and set a record for the number of people for a pro football team to lose in front of!
“Lessee, throw 30,000 brain-dead rednecks together, add a boatload of alcohol, watch as their shit team goes down in flames again, stir & poof.”
I’ll take 30,000 braindead rednecks over 65,000 criminal lowbrows in a ketchup bowl every day, thanks. Nice game by the Steelers D, by the way. Way to choke away a 7 point lead with 6 minutes left. haha
@ AirlineGuy
Now Florio has had his moments, but clearly he is stating a fact. Jerry Jones built this stadium to outdo every team in the NFL, especially his rival the Redskins on their 92,000 seat stadium. Well, now he can’t do that. And they may not sell out every game. The skins however have the largest waiting list for season tickets of any pro team in the WORLD, by far. But the point is Jerry Jones’s palace wont even serve its main purpose, which was to be the largest stadium in the league and always have the most fans in attendance. He spent $1.2 Billion dollars on this stadium and it seems like he took shortcuts all over the place. No wonder a billionaire like Jerry Jones fought so hard not to spend $3 Million on moving his giant screen higher to avoid being hit by punts…
“So, I guess the English guy who last week posted his concern that there might be soccer style riots in the SRO section, wasn’t so far off base after all.”
I’m not English, I’m American.
I used to live in the UK and currently live in Australia.
No matter where or what the situation, uncontrolled crowds with nowhere to go are bound to get ugly.
It’s simple human nature and this type of situation will happen anywhere such a foolish denial of obvious reality is attempted.
thetruthhurts, i believe you predicted a “soccer style riot”. there was no riot, there were merely people who were uncomfortable having to stand in large crowds. your predictions are akin to the ones nostradamus’ fan club spins. dont tell me one fistfight equals a riot.
Mmmm…frozen margaritas.
Vox is busy today! BTW, Vox, I don’t believe for one second the link that Ocelot138 posted to the “Vox Veritas” myspace page is really you. Not one mention of the Cowboys or Jerry Jones. No way you create an account that doesn’t even mention Dallas. It is a damn funny link, though.
http://www.myspace.com/warlock978
So Mr. Vox keeps using the term “Eagirls”, which is…pretty much right down there at “i’m taking my toys and going home” level, but that’s fine. Just so Mr. Vox knows, his boys were plastered 44-6 by said Eagirls
It’s so much fun to raz this guy!!
Now let’s recap shall we,,,Small D loses it’s final game in the old stadium, and continues it’s losing ways in the new stadium. Nothing new here! Like that coke head Irvin, maybe we can end Romo’s career during the next trip to Philly…oh wait, that would be a good thing, as Romo is pretty much Anti-playoff(ie. CLUTCH). But he does cry like a little baby in glorious hi-def
I agree with Ralph, above.
Why is the NFL so successful, even when compared to other professional sports leagues?
Very simple answer. Parity. Every team has a legitimate shot to contend. Every team can compete for free agents at the same level.
If you take that away the NFL will become a disaster.
It’s already bad enough with ESPN controlling the sports television market. All they talk about are the biggest of the big market teams: Boston, New York, Philly, DC, Chicago, and LA. They even have special web sites now solely dedicated to some of those teams. They’re never going to have “ESPN-Cleveland.com.”
The more the NFL resembles ESPN (bigs first, everybody else gets scraps), the more the NFL will fall apart.
Seriously, some of you people really need therapy for your 90′s Cowboys inflicted mental trauma. It’s kind of pathetic. It’s time to let it go. Really.
VoxVeritas says: September 22, 2009 9:01 AM
That’s because the stadium will give back to the taxpayers. The Vikings are nothing but an anchor. They’ll never give anything back to anybody as long as they’re in the situation they’re in.
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Unfortunately, MN doesn’t have the resources readily available within the budget to accommodate the Biqueens’ every demand; our state continually distributes the lion’s share of its confiscated wealth to: 1.) Anything the University demands 2.) Continual half-assed repairs and rebuilding to our shoddily-maintained roadways 3.) Our welfare state
“The few at the top are always the ones that complain about revenue sharing.”
That’s funny, coulda sworn it was Ralph Wilson and Mike Brown that were making the most noise about the revenue sharing model needing to be changed to include other sources of revenue like naming rights deals. And whaddaya know, they happen to be two team owners that didn’t spend one red cent on their stadiums. And not coincidentally, two owners that decided to forego lucrative stadium naming deals in favor of paying tribute to a father (in Brown’s case) and himself (in Wilson’s case), but will cry like little girls if they don’t get a chunk of everybody else’s naming rights. Also not coincidentally, perenially two of the worst teams in the NFL. Sure, they’re all about revenue sharing as long as it’s somebody else’s revenue that’s being shared.
Actually the NFL revenue sharing issue is a good example of why Obamanomics and the philosophy of wealth redistribution will never work on a larger scale. It gives lazy do-nothings too much incentive to sit on their asses and wait for a handout. Takes away the incentive of hard working guys to push to succeed. It doesn’t lift up the lazy asses, just punishes the ones that possess the will to drive for success.
But oh yeah, that Jerry Jones sure is a greedy devil for wanting some return on his $750 million investment. Damn capitalists! I’m sure that you think that the money would have been better spent if Jones had just given that money to Wilson and Brown so they could continue to stuff their pockets while hardly even trying to field competitive teams.
Hey Vox
Nice pose, very manly.
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leatherneck says: “They’re never going to have “ESPN-Cleveland.com.”
Not that Cleveland deserves it’s own site, but there it is:
http://espncleveland.com/
“Good to see the debut of the people of texas’s monument (as tax money paid for the vast majority of it)”
Incorrect. You obviously have access to the internet, which is a vast source of information on just about all subjects. Don’t you think it might be time to learn to use it effectively?
VoxVeritas you are a POS and the biggest troll I have ever seen. I hope you choke on your on feces and die. May your children been eaten by Mike Tyson and your wife raped by Tom Brady.
“thetruthhurts, i believe you predicted a “soccer style riot”. there was no riot, there were merely people who were uncomfortable having to stand in large crowds.”
That was precisely my point, that people standing around doing nothing but drinking beer get cranky in a big hurry.
Besides, you’re wrong.
I predicted a riot if the number still stood at 30,000 SRO admissions when the Eagles came to town.
Now that the idea has proven a colossal failure, having gotten so awfully close to a riot that it will be shelved after a single game and that will not happen…
Well, we’ll never know, will we?
“Six figures won’t be a common occurrence at Cowboys Stadium”
By six figures, do you mean playoff wins? And by a common occurence, do you mean ever happen?
“Playoff wins won’t ever happen at Cowboys Stadium”
# east96st says:
Vox is busy today! BTW, Vox, I don’t believe for one second the link that Ocelot138 posted to the “Vox Veritas” myspace page is really you. Not one mention of the Cowboys or Jerry Jones. No way you create an account that doesn’t even mention Dallas. It is a damn funny link, though.
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Leviathan says: “Seriously, some of you people really need therapy for your 90′s Cowboys inflicted mental trauma.”
I actually feel bad for you. You have been pretty even handed in your posts. Unfortunately, most Dallas fans come here and talk endless s**t. So, it has NOTHING to do with the 90s and EVERYTHING to do with the way most Boys fans run their mouths. Let’s face it, Leviathan, the whole “everything is bigger and better in Texas!” mentality is nothing more than outright arrogance. And if you are going to act arrogant, you really shouldn’t be surprised when people call you on it. Like I said, you seem to be the exception, so sorry you’re taking abuse that is really meant for others.
“Now Florio has had his moments, but clearly he is stating a fact. Jerry Jones built this stadium to outdo every team in the NFL, especially his rival the Redskins on their 92,000 seat stadium. Well, now he can’t do that.”
Let me know the next time FedEx Field is scheduled to host a Super Bowl.
“But the point is Jerry Jones’s palace wont even serve its main purpose, which was to be the largest stadium in the league and always have the most fans in attendance.”
If that were true, it would always be configured for max attendance.
“He spent $1.2 Billion dollars on this stadium and it seems like he took shortcuts all over the place.”
Examples?
“BTW, Vox, I don’t believe for one second the link that Ocelot138 posted to the “Vox Veritas” myspace page is really you.”
Wow, you mean that there are people out there that are actively stalking me? Crazy. Maybe this is me.
http://www.myspace.com/voxveritasmusic
“Like that coke head Irvin, maybe we can end Romo’s career during the next trip to Philly”
Doubtful. Your defense doesn’t really rush the passer very well.
Jesus, Vox you dont have to defend every post someone writes including the author. Your quick to pop off in other teams threads but someone calls Jerry Jones a frivoulous owner and you cry and come to his rescue. Get over it, Jerry Jones would rather sell tickets than win games, and that is reflected every Sunday. Heres an idea… find a new QB and you might start winning some of these important games…
By the way… 17 is about half of 33, so the Steelers defense is twice as good as the Cowboys. Nice try thou
“Why is the NFL so successful, even when compared to other professional sports leagues?”
Because it’s been marketed well.
“Very simple answer. Parity. Every team has a legitimate shot to contend.”
Yeah, right. In a perfect world every team has a legit shot but there are those teams that really don’t give the appearance that they care about contending or not. As I mentioned before… Bills and Bengals… they have combined for only two winning seasons since 2000. Why? Bad luck? Where’s the great effect of parity on those guys? I’ll tell you where. It’s in their pockets.
“Every team can compete for free agents at the same level. If you take that away the NFL will become a disaster.”
Wow, you’d think that the NFL was struggling before free agency.
“Hy Florio, when are you going to write a story about the Eagirls defense giving up the most points at a home game since the 1962 season when the Packers beat them 49-0?”
Haha, poor Vox is taking all kinds of defense that his team, during the stadium opening or regular season, lost.
Vox, DO YOUR RESEARCH. Though, obviously you googled a tad-bit, you still forgot that the last TD+Extra point was a interception, by, um, the Saints defense. So, that said.. Please research that again and let me know if that fact is still valid. Thanks.
BTW, the only reason Jerry Jones set the record is because he kidnapped drunken hobos from south Dallas and threw them in DA PARTAY ZONE. It showed the sardines packed in there. Ridiculous. Fan or not, I would DEMAND my money back.
“Jerry Jones’ palace reflects what a pompous ass he is. Why in the world would he have players walking through a crowded bar before they go out on to the field? It’s like treating players like meat. Seems to be more like Rollerball 2050 instead of NFL football. Some of his innovations are great, but there has to be a limit.”
Having the players walk through a bar is not an innovation.
Jerry Bear actually picked that one up from a tradition over 100 years old.
The cricketers of both teams at Lord’s Cricket Ground in London have entered the field of play through a members’ bar known as the Long Room since 1889.
He really does have some grandiose notions, our Jerry Bear.
Vox it’s OK.
Step away from the computer and ask one of your friends to give you a hug or something. Or just give the computer a hug.
Either way switch to decaf or something. If it makes you feel better The Cowboys did out play the Giants Sunday, Barber’s injury isn’t serious, and you can patent that Eagirls line you keep saying.
When you go on your first murder spree remember I was nice to you.
The Caligula Memorial Coliseum will be a monument to wretched excess and stupidity. A too low scoreboard and blackouts. Serves Frankenstein Jones right.
“Nice game by the Steelers D, by the way. Way to choke away a 7 point lead with 6 minutes left. haha”
What kind of delusion does it take for a man to deride a team for blowing a 4th quarter lead when his own team also blew a 4th quarter lead?
At least the Steelers kept it under 30.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt…
Rickah99 – That “Coke-head Irvin” never threw up in a Super Bowl. If I recall correctly he managed to win three rings and wonder of wonders was a factor in all of the games.
I am sure Flozell Adams will be the winner this year of the Tonya Harding, “Smash-them-in-the-knee” award. It is no coincidence the league’s most penalized cheater is also the dirtiest. He now denies he did anything wrong and was unaware Tuck was injured. The classnessness of this organization runs from the owner right down to the gullible fans.
If Jerry is going to continue to have this number in attendance, someone had better remind him to get the permits from local and state for occupancy.
Surely he can afford those, or maybe their pockets are lined too?
Everything is bigger in Texas… Apparently just not better…
Jerry Jones is the equivalent of PT Barnum and the “Cathedral” his big top… It takes away from the game and should embarrass Dallas fans everywhere… If that’s even possible anymore…If I wanted to see “cage dancers” I’d go to a strip club… It’s so blatantly obvious that all Jerry cares about is money hence the bastardizing of the game of football and the hatred of revenue sharing… Put a good product on the field and you’ll be plenty rich…
You can dress up dogshit with neon lights and signs but at the end of the day it’s still dogshit…
@ Leviathan
When you have to reach back to the early 90′s to find something to feel good about, then you are the one with the mental trauma. The term for what you are doing is called, ‘projection.’ You cannot deal with your misery and so you try to project your shortcomings on others. If it is any consolation, then you were half-right about the pathetic statement. Look in the mirror to understand what I mean.
easy does it on the comments vox, come on already. The stadium looked fine, I can do without those dancing girls up top though. the one thing i noticed, prior to the game my only concern was the crowd noise and not being able to hear eli, and tons of false starts. that wasnt the case at all, the crowd didnt impress me one bit. Youd think with a record breaking crowd it would be next to impossible to hear, especially in their first game.
# Ralph says: September 22, 2009 9:19 AM
The few at the top are always the ones that complain about revenue sharing. The reality is, revenue sharing and the salary cap are the main factors for parity in the NFL. That is what has propelled the NFL to the top of the sports/entertainment mountain.
Screw with that and the pile falls apart like a house of cards.
I’ve hated the Cowgirls since I first started following football in the early 60s, hell I think I hated the cowgirls before they even existed! Jerry Jones just made it easier. Schramm and Landry were gentlemen that I just disliked due to affiliation. Jones is greedy dickhead, out to buy supremacy in the NFL.
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The few at the top complain because the sharing program takes money out of their pockets and into their competitors’ pockets. It is alot like the tax system. The ones at the top are bitter because everyone else is dependent on their ability to produce, yet they are constantly hated for being “greedy”.
Of course Jones wants supremacy, that is the definition of competition. Is he supposed to be excited about being forced to support teams that don’t have a front office that knows how to cut a profit? Why support inability aat the expense of the able?
I have never seen so many losers try to make up for being losers by making fun of a stadium that is absolutely amazing if you have ever been. Knowing this crowd though, you probably just sit behind the computer typing nonsense all day. Have you been to Redskins stadium…it is the pits, it takes over 2 hours just to drive into that clusterfudge. Than half the people’s view is blocked by columns. Last, have you been to Giants stadium, where they share it with another team…haha. Dolphins, Raiders, have baseball fields in the middle of them…. why doesnt everyone just shut up, stop being jealous, and cheer for their team to win a super bowl. As far as I am concerned, only 7 teams have won a super bowl this decade and 2 of them the bucs and rams are in shambles now. So making fun of Jerry and his stadium doesnt make your teams any better. At least Cowboys fans get to watch games at an awesome place that so far everyone who has been to it has though it was amazing.
way to choke away a 7 point lead? pal thats one possession. hardly a “choke job”. worst comment of the day.
How do these “party pass” tickets effect league blackout rules?
Also, isn’t the stadium able to change the width of seats to allow for larger crowds?
Do the cowboys get to use the minimum stadium capacity or Maximum capacity for blackout rules?
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and all the anti democrat cartoons.
nice stache and hairdoo
On Sunday night the Cowboy world was embarassed. There was too much crying for anyone to speak. The majority of the world rejoiced.
On Monday morning the Cowboy world slipped into denial mode. They reminded themselves that a few errant throws does not detract from their rightful throne. They are strong enough. They are good enough, and, gosh darn it, people like them. The majority of the world chuckled.
On Tuesday morning the Cowboy world became angry. It was time to circle the wagons and lash out at their detractors. They remembered how to counter their failures by attacking other losing teams like the Patriots and Steelers. The world reminds them of their favorite expressions:
“She is more than my sister. She is also my wife.”
“Honey, can you knit me a wit?” “That would be redundant, dear.”
“If it ain’t human, then it ain’t cheating!”
Stayed tuned for Wednesday.
“Hey Vox Nice pose, very manly.”
So that’s what, two very stupid stalkers now? Giggity goo.
For all the “Cowgirl” Haters (very cute by the way) out there, you must remember all the Cowboy FANS. This franchise blows ever other NFL team away in terms of product sales – there are plenty of FANS too – enough to sell out this Stadium and then some. Unfortunatly, all the remarks are so one sided here prompting me to write this. First some facts -I own Season Tickets to the Cowboys games in the “Pompous Palace”. I paid NO liscense fee and my tickets are only $59 a piece. And yes – my family can see the feild great. I do not feel in ANY way these tickets are outragious in price. Unfortunatly, the high roller ticket prices got all the negative media attention of course. Another fact – My family spent two years prior as season ticket holders at Texas Stadium – A stadium that was built in 1971 and was honestly in need of being torn down about 15 years ago. While other fans and teams have enjoyed their “palaces” over the past few years, Cowboy Fans have not. We have delt with subpar stadium conditions (if you ever attended a game at Texas Stadium in September – you know exactly what I mean). Point is that a new stadium was well overdue and Cowboy Fans are thrilled with the results. You can not argue the venue is amazing (well I guess you can if you have never stepped foot in it and you are one of the people on this blog that despise the Cowboys no matter what they do or not do) but that is an uneducated arguement. In terms of the Party Pass situation – the $29 tickets are an economic way for fans to see the stadium and be a part of the game. I agree, too many were sold but that was due to the HUGE demand for these tickets and less to do with Jerry’s ego. I am glad they are cutting the numbers of these tickets sold. In terms of the remark about the players being treated like “meat” as they walk through the tunnel filled with fans – are you kidding me? These players, like all NFL players, make their millions playing for the FANS. Without the fans, there is no game and there is no millions to be made. This tunnel is a fabulous idea and pumps the players up just as much as the fans. Another fact- speaking of players, we have been lucky enough to meet several of the starting players for the Cowboys on more than one occasion. They have been nothing but gracious to my family and my six year old son. Say all you want about Jerry, but so many of the Cowboys Players are good guys. Just a few words from one of the many Cowboys FANS who has had experience with the old stadium, the new stadium and many of the players first hand.
“VoxVeritas you are a POS and the biggest troll I have ever seen.”
Whoever you are, I can’t be bothered to look to look to see what your name is again.
“Now that the idea has proven a colossal failure, having gotten so awfully close to a riot”
Was there even one report of a single fight? So awfully close to a riot? The Eagirls get much closer to having a riot in their stadium every game they play there if that’s your measure. Stay in Australia, please.
People support Revenue sharing for the same reason they support health care by the government and Government motors. Communism. So the Cowboys are supposed to share the money they make by selling tickets to games for their fans because they put a product and stadium on display that people want to see, while the Bucs stay a 100 million under the cap, and put a nonsense team on the field. That is BS. That is communism.
Incidentally I’m not surprised that an Eaghirls fan would take up residence in Australia. Australia did once serve mainly as a big prison for the British Empire, after all.
“Like I said, you seem to be the exception, so sorry you’re taking abuse that is really meant for others.”
That’s so emo.
“Quagmire says:”
How outright pathetic must your life be that you’d spend any amount of time trying to stalk me? You’ll never get it done, Quagmire. You don’t have the knowledge of how to go about it. Stick to dreams of molesting underage girls, like your namesake.
“By the way… 17 is about half of 33, so the Steelers defense is twice as good as the Cowboys.”
And to think that both teams have the same record. Crazy, right?
“What kind of delusion does it take for a man to deride a team for blowing a 4th quarter lead when his own team also blew a 4th quarter lead?”
Uhh the Cowboys are a) not the defending Super Bowl champs and most everybody’s pick to return to and win the Super Bowl, b) not the team with the much-heralded “tough-as-nails championship defense”, and c) did not give up 10 unanswered points in the last ~6 minutes of the game to a team that features Jay Cutler at QB.
“I am sure Flozell Adams will be the winner this year of the Tonya Harding, “Smash-them-in-the-knee” award.”
If Flo had intended to smash him in the knee, the knee would be legit smashed. Don’t blame Flo because Tuck is about as graceful as a turnip and fell awkwardly. It’s his shoulder that’s hurt, not his knee.
Vox it’s one thing to defend your team when it is attacked or criticized, but how you could defend jerry jones is beyond me.
the dude is an attention & fame-craving megalomaniac. I don’t care who the person is, that kind of personality is reprehensible. I would even point a finger at my own team’s ownership group (which i think is a circus) when i smell something i don’t like. your blind defense of jerry jones completely removes all credibility from your posts.
pick & chose your battles.
“If I wanted to see “cage dancers” I’d go to a strip club…”
Yeah we know how you metrosexuals from the biiiig city don’t like women in sexy outfits.
Not enough seats on the JerryWorld coaster?
Who could have imagined that?
“The stadium looked fine, I can do without those dancing girls up top though”
No doubt.
Some of you nerdbuckets need testosterone therapy.
@ Packers29 says:
By God somebody but me gets it. And wouldn’t you know it would be a Packer fan. That’s just fine. You know that Tom Landry and Vince Lombardi coached together for a while, right? They coached with the Giants. Lombardi on offense and Landry on defense. Talk about a dream team. Whose stupid idea was it to keep Jim Lee Howell in charge? I digress. I’ve never rated comments but I’d give yours 5 stars.
@Cowboy fan
“but that is an uneducated arguement.” Boy, your really put everyone in their place with your post. I was so disappointed to find the word ‘argument’ is spelled differently than I was taught. And to think ‘delt’ is a proper word just floors me.
Yes, they are good guys, especially Flozell. Who would not want him to teach their kid about sportsmanship? Here are his exact words:
Adams downplayed the incident, asking what does “bush” mean? “I never heard of that before. I’m curious. What is it?” Adams said. When told that bush is slang for a dirty play, Adams said he did not know that Tuck was hurt. “A shoulder injury?” Adams said. “From a supposed kick? Tell him to stay up. It ain’t my fault.”
And you wonder why people despise them?
@Vox
“If Flo had intended to smash him in the knee, the knee would be legit smashed. Don’t blame Flo because Tuck is about as graceful as a turnip and fell awkwardly. It’s his shoulder that’s hurt, not his knee.”
I know your team lost and you need to post 100 attacks to assuage your bruised ego. Yet, Flo sounds like a good name for the cheater. And a fool like you fails to see that the deliberate leg-kick forced Tuck to land in a way that hurt his shoulder. That is why people here attack you. You do not have the decency to admit when you are wrong. Defending your team at the expense of your integrity is shameful. You seem to forget that everyone has seen the play on video numerous times. It was not his first attempt and not his first game trying to do so. Defend your team, but stop lying about a deliberately dirty play. He reputatioin extends further than the Giants.
Oh woe is us! The barefoot hillbilly has cause the end of days to be upon us.
Jerryworld looked great to me. exciting game. excited crowd, sad loss.
GO DALLAS COWDOYS!!!
@nationscapital10
“People support Revenue sharing for the same reason they support health care by the government and Government motors. Communism.”
I did not know Joe McCarty had grandchildren. That has to be one of the most ridiculous comments I have ever heard on here. I hope your name does imply you work for the government.
Hummm- sorry I was typing fast and did not do a proper spell check for you (seriously?). I do know how to spell “agrument” thank you very much. I guess if that is all you have in terms of a rebuttal, I must have not done too bad. I have not met Flozell nor do I agree with what he did in the game. I think you are missing the point all together. Maybe you were too focused on grammar and spelling?
“way to choke away a 7 point lead? pal thats one possession. hardly a “choke job”. worst comment of the day.”
Oh right, right. 7 points is one possession. How many possessions did the Bears use to score 10 unanswered points to win the game, jackass?
“How do these “party pass” tickets effect league blackout rules?”
They don’t.
“Also, isn’t the stadium able to change the width of seats to allow for larger crowds?”
The seats can be scooted closer together, yes. They can also use end zone bleachers.
“Do the cowboys get to use the minimum stadium capacity or Maximum capacity for blackout rules?”
They get to use the non-premium seating capacity of the stadium when it’s configured for a normal NFL game. Apparently the rule is that all non-premium seats must be sold to avoid a blackout but that’s sort of confusing since the number of non-premium seats and total capacity are two very different numbers.
dcfan-1212450 says: September 22, 2009 9:28 AM
@ AirlineGuy
Now Florio has had his moments, but clearly he is stating a fact. Jerry Jones built this stadium to outdo every team in the NFL, especially his rival the Redskins on their 92,000 seat stadium. Well, now he can’t do that.
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The stadium can still hold 100K+ even without the party passes.
Next argument from a moron hater that can’t do his own research…only regurgitate what he hears from others.
“and all the anti democrat cartoons. ”
My myspace has anti-boorish dumbass lowbrow cartoons. I don’t discriminate by political affiliation.
For the last time you imbeciles…Tuck wasn’t TRIPPED. Yes, the call was right that Adams was using his leg to stop the defender, thus a “tripping” call. But Tuck was past Adams leg and just got twisted up.
Tuck hurt his vagina and is now blaming Adams play. What a girl
A Cowboys fan ragging on the Steelers for blowing a 4th quarter lead? Someone remind me how the Steelers VS Cowboys game went last year. I thought Cowboys blew a ten point 4th quarter lead to the Steelers?
You know it’s funny what a young man recollects? ‘Cause I don’t remember bein’ born. I don’t recall what I got for my first Christmas and I don’t know when I went on my first outdoor picnic. But I do remember the first time I saw Jerry Jones eat a booger on TV.
“So the Cowboys are supposed to share the money they make by selling tickets to games for their fans”
Of course they are. That’s the way it’s always been. Teams split gate revenues 60/40 and that’s the way it should be. Jones isn’t against revenue sharing, he’s against expanding it to include other revenue sources like stadium sponsorship, among other things.
The revenue sharing issue is all about profit margin. There are no pauper NFL owners. There are those that feel that they’re not putting as much in their pockets as they’d like to so they’d like to get deeper into everybody else’s pockets. It’s not about fielding a competitive team, there’s already a fund set up to help even the field between the lower revenue clubs and the higher revenue clubs. Where does that money go? One guess, and as long as you say “in their pockets” you’ll be right about some of these lower revenue teams, particularly the ones that want so bad to change the revenue sharing model.
“And you wonder why people despise them?”
No, that’s never been a question that I’ve ever pondered.
@nationscapital10
“Last, have you been to Giants stadium, where they share it with another team…haha.”
You look more and more foolish with each post. I have been to Giants Stadium and can assure you the Jets do not play there at the same time. It is unclear as to whether or not you understand the concept…haha. You may not know, either, that it was a mutual agreement to share the costs of the stadium. It has worked very well for both teams and a new stadium will be unveiled next season. Yes, that does not make them extravagant to excess, but it does show restraint in an economic recession. Especially, for the huge market they could play upon. Sunday, I learned that no matter how expensive the arena may become it does not make the home team any better than the old arena did. Funny, how that works.
“Flo sounds like a good name for the cheater.”
Oh, so he’s a cheater because he kicked Tuck in the knee? Does that mean that Boley is a cheater for dragging Miles Austin down by his facemask? Is Suebert a cheater because he was holding?
“And a fool like you fails to see that the deliberate leg-kick forced Tuck to land in a way that hurt his shoulder.”
Awww. It’s a tough sport, sport. Remember that next time one of your boys tries to break somebody’s neck.
@Vox
“If Flo had intended to smash him in the knee, the knee would be legit smashed.
Are you getting a visit from aunt Flo?
That would explain the moodiness.
@ airlameguy
“Tuck hurt his vagina and is now blaming Adams play. What a girl”
Sorry, liar. You and Vox make a good pair. We have seen the video many times. The cheater kicked Tuck and every sportscaster in the studio agreed it was so. Every non-Cowboy poster here saw it too. You guys know the truth and always resort to attacks, name-calling and sophistry to cover your weaknesses. Are you really that sophmoric to think a man has a vagina? I find that funny when a ‘man’ named Flo kicked him. Did I mention how often he is penalized for cheating? Please, if you want to argue, then show some intelligence in what you post. People are laughing at you.
@ Vox
Methinks one does protest too much. You are more stupid than I thought. It is a tough sport, but it does have rules. Your guy repeatedly breaks them. Pointing out others alleged errors is a little petulant kids way of justifying dirty play. You cannot win on this with a thousand excuses. I recorded the game and it is the same dirty kick in the leg everytime I watch. Should I send you a copy? Oh, yeah, you do not like the truth. It is so not-cowboyish.
$29 per party pass over 8 home games is still cheaper the the Sunday Ticket price of $275 plus $100 for all games in HD.
I for one would pay that to go party at Jerry’s house. I understand how life outside of the trailer park can be tough for some.
@Vox
I am glad you called me sport. Thank you for recognizing one of us is a good one. You may now return to lying, crying, and pretending you are something you are not. I am sure there are so many others here you have not called names or attacked yet today. I will stop writing to you and let you get on with your nasty work. It is your only way to feel better about yourself.
@ VoxVeritas
I’ve noticed you are all over this thread, so I decided to take a quick count:
29 of the 95 posts in this thread are yours. I find you pretty amusing, don’t get me wrong, but (unless you’re on Jerruh’s payroll) dontcha think that’s a bit over the top?
Wow, 50% Vox all of the time! Maybe they can get a Nice Star Logo put on the tarps they are going to start using to cover empty seats……
@ Cowboyfan
Do not blame me for your mistakes. We all make typos. When someone attacks others intelligence by lowering theirs it should be pointed out. You do realize if you just said ‘arguement’, then it would be OK. You said, “uneducated arguement.” You are calling people stupid, yet get offended when they say the same about you. There were many more spelling gaffes than the one you mention. I did not even begin to tell you about the grammar. Because you never met Adams, does that excuse him? There are players from all teams who give back. I did not miss your point. It would have been much better if you stated it with more reason than jadedness.
ok vox, i’ll play your little game of replying to every post.
my post was to show that losing a lead in a one possession game is not a “choke”. but i’m the jackass right. i’m the guy who is so insecure that he cant allow anyone to say anything about a subject in which he has no other vested interest except to cheer for. you sir are a petty individual who must have a sad little existence.
Can we all just get back to talking about the Cowboys (Cowgirls) and the miserable season ahead of them?
There’s one saying here that couldn’t fit better – “A fish rots from the head first!”
As long as Jerry Jones owns this team it will NEVER be another Bowl team. Doesn’t anyone see that? This organization is not being run like a football organization. It’s not that at all!
This is a business and Jerry doesn’t care how he whores himself or his team out. . .it’s all about the Benjamins! This new stadium will ever see 100,000 people again except for the SuperBowl. No one can really afford to take their family any more.
If you watch attendance figures over the next few weeks they will continnue to decline and drastically. It was great for the opening game but be prepared for blackouts!
Until Jerry sells this team the closest the Cowboys will get to a SuperBowl will be watching it from the stadium seats on SuperBowl Sunday.
Vox is actually a Cowboys employeee that monitors internet traffic to defend the organization from attacks.
How much you want for Vick?
Truth hurts,
Sorry for calling you English – never saw an indication where you were from, so just a bad assumption.
For a guy who’s not
http://www.myspace.com/warlock978
You sure spend a long time defending yourself about it, Vox Veritas.
I mean, I would try really hard to convince everyone I wasn’t myself if I looked like that, too.
VoxVeritas says:
September 22, 2009 12:09 PM
@ Packers29 says:
By God somebody but me gets it. And wouldn’t you know it would be a Packer fan. That’s just fine. You know that Tom Landry and Vince Lombardi coached together for a while, right? They coached with the Giants. Lombardi on offense and Landry on defense. Talk about a dream team. Whose stupid idea was it to keep Jim Lee Howell in charge? I digress. I’ve never rated comments but I’d give yours 5 stars.
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So, Packers29 and Vox… You are saying that it is competition and Jerry is a competitor and wants to win. But, you are talking about winning at making money and not at football. unless he is your grandfather and you are inheriting money, why do you care? Wouldn’t you rather win at, you know, football – because Jerry is builing a big stadium for a little team. And the way he is building the team, it is not geing to get any better anytime soon.
Nice mullet there Vox
You look like Joe Dirt.
“Was there even one report of a single fight? So awfully close to a riot? The Eagirls get much closer to having a riot in their stadium every game they play there if that’s your measure. Stay in Australia, please.”
Check the video there, Vox Infidus. Doesn’t look like a Wiggles party from where they’re standing: http://deadspin.com/5365057/
And if you could perform that standard autocraniorectalotomy I keep prescribing you’d see that I’m a Steeler fan, the one who still can’t believe you had things to say about the Steelers’ blown 4th quarter lead when your own sorry bunch of clowns gave up their 4th quarter lead at home in the biggest game any of the current roster had ever played in a CowCows uniform.
“Incidentally I’m not surprised that an Eaghirls fan would take up residence in Australia. Australia did once serve mainly as a big prison for the British Empire, after all.”
Besides being wrong, this has what to to do with anything? Any single thing at all? Case in point as to why the rest of the world thinks we’re a bunch of loudmouthed, arrogant douchenozzles, even stalwart allies like Australia who have fought beside US troops in every major foreign conflict since the Spanish-American War.
And I’ll take the Australian National Rugby Team over the CowCows any day of the week. In any sport.
BTW: Just spitballing here that you’re Irish. You should see what they did to Irish prisoners down here. Ghastly, evil stuff.
It’s almost as bad as what the rest of the NFC East does to the CowCows every year.
# Smush Rodrigez says: September 22, 2009 4:04 PM
So, Packers29 and Vox… You are saying that it is competition and Jerry is a competitor and wants to win. But, you are talking about winning at making money and not at football. unless he is your grandfather and you are inheriting money, why do you care? Wouldn’t you rather win at, you know, football – because Jerry is builing a big stadium for a little team. And the way he is building the team, it is not geing to get any better anytime soon.
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I care because legal theft is a slippery slope. And god forbid (I’m 21) that I have lofty ambitions (as an MBA student). If it is ok to take someone else’s rightful earnings, waste it on poor operations (and continue the cycle), then who is to say that won’t happen to me. And on top of it all, it is the looters that insult the producers, and demand that the producers sanction the action of theft.
I hate to see it happen, but I’m not defending JJ. He agreed to it, and therefore asked for it, so it is he who is allowing the looting to go on.
That’s interesting, considering that all party pass holders were emailed saying to arrive early, there would be a lot of people, and at times ticket holders would be asked to wait outside. So I arrived early (around 3:30) and had absolutely no problems. My only issue was not having access to the opposite end of the stadium, but that is different. I guess if everyone had shown up early as was suggested, this would not have been nearly as big of an issue.
I really don’t care for the Dallas Cowboys or anything to do with the Cowboys–except the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders. I’m actually rather fond of them.
Is Jerry seriously charging $75 for parking? Did I hear that correctly or was that made up? I’ve flown over and driven by the new stadium when it was under construction. It’s not like the stadium is located in the middle of Manhattan or even downtown Dallas so that’s a bit crazy if it’s true.