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Last roadblock removed for L.A. stadium

After intense negotiations, a lawsuit filed by the nearby city of Walnut has been resolved, clearing a path for the construction of a new football stadium in the L.A.-area city of Industry.

The settlement renders efforts to change California environmental laws unnecessary.  The group building the stadium, led by Ed Roski, had been lobbying the California legislature aggressively for the revision that would have mooted the lawsuit.

Members of the Walnut City Council approved the settlement by a 3-1 vote.

And so the project may now proceed.

All it needs is an NFL team to play games there.

So why do we have a feeling that Roski already has a team or two up his sleeve?

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99 Responses to “Last roadblock removed for L.A. stadium”
  1. Krow says: Sep 23, 2009 11:18 AM

    L.A. Jaguars… has a ring to it.

  2. birdmancometh says: Sep 23, 2009 11:25 AM

    I’ll bet Adrian Peterson would be a hit in L.A.

  3. AirlineGuy says: Sep 23, 2009 11:26 AM

    LA Redskins? I bet they make them change the name when they move.

  4. jb10 says: Sep 23, 2009 11:27 AM

    as a raiders fan i wonder how much interest al davis has? if any.

  5. JSpicoli says: Sep 23, 2009 11:28 AM

    Mr. Roski, Jed York on line 1.

  6. Zox says: Sep 23, 2009 11:28 AM

    L.A. Jaguars… has a ring to it.
    _______________________________
    Why should they move the team 3000 miles just to go to another stadium that wont be half full?

  7. Bryan says: Sep 23, 2009 11:30 AM

    Jags would be great for LA, however do you keep them in the AFC south or kick out KC/Den from the West…although they are all original rivalry AFL teams so that might not go over too well.

  8. jupe says: Sep 23, 2009 11:31 AM

    is LA ready for the return of the Raiders?

  9. PurpleNGold says: Sep 23, 2009 11:32 AM

    Ad in Jacksonville Trader:
    large tarp for sale
    call Wayne

  10. Chris from MD says: Sep 23, 2009 11:33 AM

    I’m thinking the Jags or Bucs are moving. Look for the team to be called the L.A. Thunder or something like that.

  11. andyinsdca says: Sep 23, 2009 11:38 AM

    Los Angeles Chargers! History repeats itself!

  12. Hap says: Sep 23, 2009 11:40 AM

    The LA-la Land has a better ring to it. They need to make the St Louis team give up the Rams name and re-name themselves.
    Make Ariz give up the Cards to St Louis.
    Make St Louis give up the Rams name to L.A.
    Rename Ariz the Rattlers.
    Get The NFL back to the way it was, and the way it should be.

  13. jj jones says: Sep 23, 2009 11:40 AM

    L.A. Rams is much more likely considering they are for sale.

  14. schism says: Sep 23, 2009 11:44 AM

    what if they don’t get a team? aren’t they doing this backwards? don’t you get the team then build?

  15. MNfan55 says: Sep 23, 2009 11:45 AM

    L.A Vikings…sounsd more like it. sad.

  16. Twiz says: Sep 23, 2009 11:46 AM

    LA has had two teams leave cause they couldn’t make it in the area…..I don’t understand why anyone thinks a third will be any different…….

  17. swervinmervin says: Sep 23, 2009 11:46 AM

    Raiders are moving back. Davis has always hated the way things turned out the first time around. It could be time to set things straight this time around.

  18. I_Hate_Yams says: Sep 23, 2009 11:51 AM

    The wack-job environmentalists rule California. Because of these fools, a lot of brush is not allowed to be cleared which adds fuel to the yearly wild-fires. Any effort to be a stadium will be met with these idiots trying to block it. So this one was settled, another one will be filed by another group.

  19. DCViking says: Sep 23, 2009 11:53 AM

    Come on, Tali-Bob make you stupid Vikings comment.
    I can only hope its as accurate as your most recent predictions…

  20. hayward giablommi says: Sep 23, 2009 11:54 AM

    “what if they don’t get a team? aren’t they doing this backwards? don’t you get the team then build?”
    ^^^^^
    St. Louis began building their dome before the Rams moved into town.
    Assuming this LA stadium gets built, you can bet that a team will be playing there, pronto.

  21. Silver&Black666 says: Sep 23, 2009 11:54 AM

    What hell is wrong with you idiots!
    The people of LA do not want a football team they will not support one unless its a winner every year and thats just not realistic in the NFL.
    There is way too much to do in LA even into November then go watch a losing team at any sport will not happen ever
    Why is it the NFL and a few stupid investors (Roski) think they can force a round peg in a square hole is beyond me.
    Have you heard any out cry from real football fans in LA no you haven’t because they can drive 2 hours and watch the chargers if they wanted but WAIT the Chargers cant sell out their games either.
    The beach is so close what to do …. go surfing and look at the hotties in the sand or got watch Phillip Rivers cry and lose.
    Besides LA has a team its called USC!
    GIVE IT UP LA DOES NOT WANT YOU ROSKI!!

  22. Silver&Black666 says: Sep 23, 2009 11:54 AM

    People who don’t live in California cant understand but if you lived here you would understand why even when the 49er games are sold out the stadium is 1/4 empty.

  23. CTootle says: Sep 23, 2009 11:55 AM

    To all you raider fans in L.A., there is no way in hell Roski will ever put up the money for a new stadium and invest interest in team like the raiders or be partners with the terrible A**hole of an owner Al Davis. Lets be honest……..

  24. Debacled says: Sep 23, 2009 12:01 PM

    Jacksonville would be most likely to move to LA. Then San Diego would be the next most likely.
    Buffalo won’t be heading out there- they’ll be staying in Buffalo or will be headed across the border to Toronto.

  25. ravensfan52 says: Sep 23, 2009 12:03 PM

    Swap the Rams and Jags. Put the Rams in the AFC South…think about how close they would be to the other teams in the divison. Geographically, it makes sense. And put the LA Jags in the NFC West. Problem solved.

  26. nyJag says: Sep 23, 2009 12:04 PM

    So let’s get this straight.
    LA, after losing three teams ( don’t forget SD) due to an inability to fill stadiums in the city is going to field a team outside the city that’s going to be a success. There going to do it with a team positioned on the AFC South who plays two teams in the central time zone and one in the eastern time zone. I doubt a whole lot of Colts and Titans fans are going to make their way to Industy CA, where I’m sure the hotel business is just booming too, not to mention the way Oakland fans make there way to San Deigo and Denver fans heads to the Bay.
    Doesn’t sound like Jax is going to pull an Art Modell across I-10 to me. With San Deigo having all sorts of stadium issues, a drive up the 405 seems more likely to fill Industry with Fans. San Diego’s already slamming the door on a water front stadium anyway so Charger fans are going to sell their tix to raider fans much easier when they can knock some time off the drive.
    Any questions?
    In Gene We Trust

  27. Rex Grossman says: Sep 23, 2009 12:06 PM

    Buy the Jaguars and move them to LA, Florio. You can afford it. Won’t even have to buy helmets, just use your hair.

  28. birdmancometh says: Sep 23, 2009 12:10 PM

    I’m saying The L.A. Cowboys. Jerry has a team that has never won a home game in that monstrousity he built this year. He might as well move into Roski’s building…

  29. Rex Grossman says: Sep 23, 2009 12:12 PM

    Wait so if the Vikings move to LA would they still be in the NFC North? That wouldn’t make sense. So much history in that division, it would be a mistake to screw it up. Nobody cares that the Bucs left, but Packers/Bears/Vikings/Lions is what the NFL is all about.

  30. The Rural Juror says: Sep 23, 2009 12:13 PM

    Logically, it needs to be Oakland. They already have a 13 year history there, and a bunch of fans from when they won a SB there.
    You can’t have two franchises within 15 miles of eachother…
    Of course if you live in LA, you would probably be ticked that a bunch of oakland-types would be coming to town every other weekend…

  31. PirateFreedom says: Sep 23, 2009 12:14 PM

    “LA Redskins? I bet they make them change the name when they move.”
    As long as they don’t change it to the “LA Wetbacks” and try to pass it off as respecting latino heritage then they’ll be ahead of the game
    Not that dan snyder is going to move the racist slurs when they’re filling a 90K stadium and have people paying to watch the practices

  32. redsquare says: Sep 23, 2009 12:16 PM

    L.A. Rams, perhaps?
    I never really had anything against the Rams other than general annoyance at teams’ names/mascots being kept during moves to places where it doesn’t make as much sense. Rams in Missouri and Cardinals in Arizona just aren’t as good a fit as their old locations.
    Teams like the Baltimore Ravens, to me, are the ones who’ve gotten it right. It’s true that over time, things like the ‘L.A. Lakers’ sound completely natural to everyone, I’d still like to see any team that moves to L.A. come up with something that’s distinctly Californian.

  33. theTRUTHwillSETuFREE says: Sep 23, 2009 12:20 PM

    I dont think there is a chance the Raiders will be back in L.A., I agree with CTootle on the point that he wouldnt want to deal with Davis.
    Jags or the Vikings make the most sense….I wouldnt mind seeing the Jags over here. The fans in Jacksonville obviously don’t support that team, and I think a good Franchise like that would do good in L.A.’s market.
    @666 . I think your wrong on the point that LA would not support a football team. I think it’s idiotic that there hasnt been a football team in the 2nd largest market in America. The reason why the Rams and the Raiders didnt do good there was because of the Area that they were in. Not to mention the football stadiums were beyond horrible. I think with a state of the art stadium people would be more willing to go out and catch a game.

  34. El Duderino says: Sep 23, 2009 12:23 PM

    Southern California Super Chargers

  35. Child Please! says: Sep 23, 2009 12:26 PM

    schism says:
    September 23, 2009 11:44 AM
    what if they don’t get a team? aren’t they doing this backwards? don’t you get the team then build?
    _________________________________
    If you build it, they will come.

  36. Bob S. says: Sep 23, 2009 12:28 PM

    Teams who should want to move there:
    Carolina
    Cinncinnati
    Tampa Bay
    Buffalo
    Jacksonville
    Oakland

  37. ceh says: Sep 23, 2009 12:28 PM

    wake up chris the bucs are not going anywhere, the redskins would move before them

  38. bustabloodvessel says: Sep 23, 2009 12:31 PM

    someone will go to LA. it will either be the rams or the jags. after about five years of not making money, they will be looking for a new home.

  39. jj jones says: Sep 23, 2009 12:33 PM

    Why should Cincinnati or Carolina move there? That doesn’t even make sense.

  40. Nittany Munchkins says: Sep 23, 2009 12:37 PM

    why can’t they (roskiand the nfl) use the stadium like a foreign city?
    expand the season to 18 games. every team plays once abroad and once in LA.
    the existing owners keep eight home games for themelves, the nfl has football back in LA, and all the transplants have an opportunity to go see “their” team once a year.
    it would seem to be win/win to me.

  41. hayward giablommi says: Sep 23, 2009 12:37 PM

    To the people who keep stating “LA couldn’t support two teams…”:
    Maybe the fact there were two teams was part of the problem? If the Raiders were drawing 50,000 at the Coliseum, and the Rams were drawing 35,000 in Anaheim, do the math. That’s still plenty to draw on IF THERE’S ONLY ONE TEAM, and one team only, in town. I think a single LA franchise would succeed, but more than one team in LA (as Ahhnold and Florio seem to advocate) would be suicidal.
    As Al Michaels pointed out, the Rams used to draw 100,000 when they played in the Coliseum, and USC sells the place out regularly.

  42. drbob1117 says: Sep 23, 2009 12:45 PM

    It’s LA Jaguar time! I can’t even feel sorry for the people of Jacksonville; they never supported the team.. How many times do they figure to get balcked out this year? As ravensfan52 said; you can just put the Rams in the Jags division and the Jags in the Rams division and there wouldn’t be any geographic or logistical problems.

  43. Pudge Heffelfinger says: Sep 23, 2009 12:52 PM

    L.A. Rams has a nice ring to it.
    Oh, wait …

  44. Flvikesfan says: Sep 23, 2009 12:53 PM

    Lifelong Vikings fan, sad to say but after seeing how the MN fans have treated their home team over the last few years I would not be surprised in the least to see them follow the Lakers to LA. I was amazed last year when the Vikes had to get an extension to sell out their playoff game, it’s a shame!!! I’ll always bleed Purple regardless of what city they call home.

  45. jj jones says: Sep 23, 2009 1:00 PM

    “It’s LA Jaguar time! I can’t even feel sorry for the people of Jacksonville; they never supported the team”
    Really?

  46. Whododrums says: Sep 23, 2009 1:01 PM

    They should give LA one of the other useless California teams, does the state really need to have 4 teams located within it’s borders, I think not.

  47. tre_fizzle says: Sep 23, 2009 1:02 PM

    L.A. Cougars
    L.A. Pumas
    Those are california animal names
    L.A. GreatWhites
    L.A. Condors
    L.A. Waves
    L.A. Shredders (like surfing)
    or maybe
    L.A. Ganbangers
    L.A. Stars
    L.A. ?????????
    Endless possibilities.

  48. nyJag says: Sep 23, 2009 1:11 PM

    LA 49ers.
    Last we heard the were threatning a move to Santa Clara if San Fran didn’t pony up. Hmmm

  49. VegasBronco says: Sep 23, 2009 1:20 PM

    So, is the idea still to move the deplorable Chargers up to LA?
    San Diego does not care about football and they do not sell out and Jack Murphy stadium is full of rats, so it seems logical.
    LA Chargers

  50. The Wishbone says: Sep 23, 2009 1:22 PM

    “A team or two”?
    Chargers, Vikings, Jaguars, Rams, Raiders…
    How can you only come up with one or two and not even have the balls to name them? Roski’s got plenty to choose from.

  51. doric44 says: Sep 23, 2009 1:24 PM

    if its a team to LA its gotta be one of the teams from California either a NFC west or AFC west team there not moving a east coast team like the jags to LA the other AFC south teams would be pissed to have to travel that much

  52. CaptainFantastik says: Sep 23, 2009 1:29 PM

    City of Industry isn’t “LA area”. It’s probably a good 35 minutes from LA on a good traffic day.

  53. Tdk24 says: Sep 23, 2009 1:29 PM

    The return of the L.A. Raiders…Al’s last act of defiance. Make it happen Al.

  54. jj jones says: Sep 23, 2009 1:32 PM

    I think the users of PFT should but the team and moved it to LA.
    L.A. Regular Mountain Dew Drinkers?
    L.A. Call Center Workers?
    L.A. Grease Stained T-Shirts?

  55. evilboy128 says: Sep 23, 2009 1:37 PM

    for all you brainless idiots that can’t READ, I will try this ONE MORE TIME… The city of Jacksonville signed a stadium deal with the Jaguars a couple of years ago that states that if the team is bought and tries to move, the City and the new ownership group that takes the team would owe the city of Jacksonville nearly 100 million in stadium buy out clauses. Add that to the cost to moving the team, the purchase price of the team itself (close to 900 million itself) and the cost of a new stadium to move to…and that makes the moving of the Jaguars out of Jacksonville a near impossibility. Yet you goofs keep up your LA Jaguar crap. Raiders,Rams,Vikings, and the Chargers are ALL more of a possibility to move than the Jaguars because of the deal in place.

  56. Johnny Ryall says: Sep 23, 2009 1:40 PM

    nyJag says: “Any questions?”
    —————————
    They’re, their or there?

  57. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 1:40 PM

    Jaguars are not coming here, nice try outsiders(morons)
    The Raiders will return here. Lease is up in a few months and Davis has the rights here.
    There is a strong fan base here and Raider games are on local tv here every week.
    And no the Chargers are rejected also, there is a 15-1 ratio of Raider fans to Charger fans in L.A.
    Dont insult us with your detestable outside view.
    Quite simply, if you dont live here dont comment.
    Los Angeles Raiders 2011

  58. Kodiakal Karnage says: Sep 23, 2009 1:45 PM

    L.A. Dragqueens
    (Vikes are halfway there…and the color scheme from the Lakers fits perfectly)

  59. drbob1117 says: Sep 23, 2009 1:55 PM

    evilboy128: I don’t know the specifics of that deal but the way you just described it above, it wouldn’t stop Weaver from keeping the team and moving it to LA…unless the deal applies to the current group too, then I would agree it’s cost prohibitive. @ jjjones: when was the last time a Jags home game was on TV in Jacksonville?

  60. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 2:02 PM

    Carolina
    Cinncinnati
    Tampa Bay
    Buffalo
    Jacksonville
    This complete and utter non sense.
    These hapless losers would not last one season in L.A.
    Also, the majority of these teams have updated facilities.
    The Jags I repeat are not coming to this region.

  61. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 2:07 PM

    LA 49ers.
    Last we heard the were threatning a move to Santa Clara if San Fran didn’t pony up. Hmmm
    Thats the other possibility, the voters of Santa Clara are projected to reject the stadium.
    The 49ers would be accepted in So cal.

  62. R8R_BOB says: Sep 23, 2009 2:14 PM

    “The return of the L.A. Raiders…Al’s last act of defiance. Make it happen Al.”
    Not going to happen. Al Davis love the RAIDERS too much to give up control and that would be the price to play in Roski’s playground.
    It would be the Chargers before the RAIDERS moving to City of Industry.

  63. InvestorGadget says: Sep 23, 2009 2:14 PM

    @ceh
    “wake up chris the bucs are not going anywhere, the redskins would move before them”
    Sounds like you should be the one doing the “waking up.”
    Last year the Bucs were essentially in the LOWER THIRD of the league in home attendance (ranked #21 in average attendance) and they didn’t even reach full capacity at their stadium, at 98.3% attendance (ranked #17, putting them in the LOWER HALF of the league).
    In contrast, the Redskins led the league in attendance (#1 in average and total attendance) and were second in percentage (110.6%).

  64. JoeSchmoe says: Sep 23, 2009 2:22 PM

    Using City of Industry as the team location is like the Ana-Crime Angels crying their way into associating their team with the LA naming for increased merch sales… and I’ll bet that’s part of the reason they said “ehh… let’s just find the cheapest plot of land in remote vicinity to LA and just call the team the LA ___”… seeing that it was effective for a baseball team and replicating it for the football team.
    They’ll get the rights to do it, but it’s about the equivalent of the Raiders trying to call themselves the “Oakland Raiders of San Francisco”. Lame. But it’s all about the property cost I’ll bet.

  65. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 2:24 PM

    It would be the Chargers before the RAIDERS moving to City of Industry.
    Once again, the Chargers are in the process of neg a stadium in San Diego.
    Raider fans out number Charger fans 15-1 in L.A.
    The Chargers would lose home field and their strong fan base in San Diego.

  66. InvestorGadget says: Sep 23, 2009 2:28 PM

    @evilboy128
    While I agree that there are other teams which are more likely to move to LA, you’re being naive if you think a $100 million buyout and the cost of moving would keep a new owner from moving the Jaguars from Jacksonville to LA.
    The move in television market alone (from the #47 market to #2 market) is worth more than 100 million!

  67. R8R_BOB says: Sep 23, 2009 2:28 PM

    Raiders own the Steelers, I know you love the RAIDERS but the RAIDERS should stay in Oakland. L.A. was a disaster. Let us RAIDER fans not have to experience that trainwreck again.
    Oakland RAIDERS sounds a lot better than Los Angeles RAIDERS. Let2011 be the year of the Oakland RAIDERS.

  68. Lucas says: Sep 23, 2009 2:29 PM

    I like the idea that they play 18 games, get rid of two exhibitions. Play one game in LA and 1 game abroad a year for each team, the league would go global in 5 years.
    LA is all transvestites , transplants I mean, Virtually every chick out there has them. Anway, all those transvetiplants go to the bar and root for their teams every week, most would only want to go to the game when their team was in town… Titans – Jags isnt going to sell to many seats after the initial hype wears off… you would only be able to have games where east coast teams play west coast teams… and ny vs ne,philly,wash, chi, gb, minn, …otherwise you’re looking at empty seats..
    Also, the City of Industry is where the Farmer John pig slaughterhouse is located along with a lot of other smelly smelly business’…if that stadium is close enough to smell the farmer john factory…nobody will go, it is the smelliest place on earth, smell like a death and shit combo plate ( can i get extra death on mine/ and can I swap out my Coca Colon for a Mountain Spew?, thanks.)
    dallas arizona in mexico city is an easy sell out every year….
    raiders chargers in hawaii
    seahawks broncos in tokyo
    pats giants in london
    jets eagles in berlin
    these would sell out every time….

  69. Kenneth says: Sep 23, 2009 2:33 PM

    Jacksonville Jaguars owners Wayne and Delores Barr Weaver know football fans are hurting because of the economy, but the pair say they’re focused on building a tradition in Jacksonville that will someday result in a Super Bowl championship.
    The Weavers underscored that commitment before 1,400 people Friday at the quarterly Jacksonville Regional Chamber of Commerce Cornerstone luncheon. They said the recession has hurt ticket sales to the point where officials think all home games will be blacked out from local broadcast.
    “You know it’s a tough economy, and we get it,” Wayne Weaver said. “We understand it has affected season-ticket holders who just can’t afford season tickets and are not able to renew them. Not that there’s apathy. People want to be there, but they’re struggling with lost jobs or mortgage payments or just basic necessities. I want to be realistic – we won’t have a full stadium this year. We will not. This economy has just affected too many families.”
    In the short term, the team has come up with deals to help make tickets more affordable for fans. Weaver said he’s committed to the long term in Jacksonville, and he believes the Jaguars will build a tradition.
    “Maybe it will take us another 10 or 15 years to get there, maybe longer, but one thing is for sure: we’re going to get there,” he said.
    These comments are from the owner of the Jaguars Wayne Weaver. He has repeatedly stated HE IS NOT MOVING THE TEAM !!!! He is committed to Jacksonville. Yes times are tough everywhere, But north Florida has been hit especially hard during this recession . But make no mistake, Jacksonville WILL rebound. We are blessed with a low tax rate, Excellent weather and a skilled workforce. This city has come back from disaster before and has grown stronger each time. So to all you haters here, BITE ME !!! I am proud to be a fan of this team and a resident of Jacksonville for over 30 years. I was a Jaguar fan from day one, November 30, 1993 at 4:16 EST. I will die wearing Teal !! GO JAGUARS !!

  70. Kenneth says: Sep 23, 2009 2:36 PM

    Jacksonville Jaguars owners Wayne and Delores Barr Weaver know football fans are hurting because of the economy, but the pair say they’re focused on building a tradition in Jacksonville that will someday result in a Super Bowl championship.
    The Weavers underscored that commitment before 1,400 people Friday at the quarterly Jacksonville Regional Chamber of Commerce Cornerstone luncheon. They said the recession has hurt ticket sales to the point where officials think all home games will be blacked out from local broadcast.
    “You know it’s a tough economy, and we get it,” Wayne Weaver said. “We understand it has affected season-ticket holders who just can’t afford season tickets and are not able to renew them. Not that there’s apathy. People want to be there, but they’re struggling with lost jobs or mortgage payments or just basic necessities. I want to be realistic – we won’t have a full stadium this year. We will not. This economy has just affected too many families.”
    In the short term, the team has come up with deals to help make tickets more affordable for fans. Weaver said he’s committed to the long term in Jacksonville, and he believes the Jaguars will build a tradition.
    “Maybe it will take us another 10 or 15 years to get there, maybe longer, but one thing is for sure: we’re going to get there,” he said.
    These comments are from the owner of the Jaguars Wayne Weaver. He has repeatedly stated HE IS NOT MOVING THE TEAM !!!! He is committed to Jacksonville. Yes times are tough everywhere, But north Florida has been hit especially hard during this recession . But make no mistake, Jacksonville WILL rebound. We are blessed with a low tax rate, Excellent weather and a skilled workforce. This city has come back from disaster before and has grown stronger each time. So to all you haters here, BITE ME !!! I am proud to be a fan of this team and a resident of Jacksonville for over 30 years. I was a Jaguar fan from day one, November 30, 1993 at 4:16 EST. I will die wearing Teal !! GO JAGUARS !!

  71. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 2:40 PM

    To all those who dont live California and continue to post dribble on what you think the team should be in this area, go away.
    Having the Chargers move to L.A. would be like the Browns moving to Pittsburgh. The Chargers would be humilated and laughed at by the strong Raider fan base.
    It comes down to two teams:
    1. Raiders(The favorite)
    2. 49ers(5 time SB Champs)

  72. nyJag says: Sep 23, 2009 2:49 PM

    @ Johnny
    They’re not moving to their ridiculus site of Indusrty. Not there or anywhere.

  73. evilboy128 says: Sep 23, 2009 3:03 PM

    Last time a jaguar home game was televised? Every home game last year was…..try again smart ass….research is your friend…letting your ass do the talking is not.

  74. Habinskie says: Sep 23, 2009 3:11 PM

    “Look for the team to be called the L.A. Thunder or something like that.”
    Clearly you’ve never lived in LA.

  75. jj jones says: Sep 23, 2009 3:12 PM

    “when was the last time a Jags home game was on TV in Jacksonville?”
    Last year. Every game. 60k+. More people in the stands than in Chicago.

  76. El Duderino says: Sep 23, 2009 3:13 PM

    The Chargers make the most sense with an established fan base in SoCal.
    Regarding the Jags, it just makes no sense that they would move all the way to L.A. not to mention Wayne Weaver is committed to Jacksonville and has no intention of selling the team to a party with plans of moving the team, and that’s provided that he sells the team before passing.

  77. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 3:36 PM

    These people dont listen.
    Chargers and Jags are not coming here. They arent wanted.
    The owner of the Jags is commited to Jacksonville.
    Chargers are in talks with a stadium deal.
    The Vikings are staying Minnesota.
    Enough of this outsider garbage.

  78. mannyfresh209 says: Sep 23, 2009 3:46 PM

    bring back the oilers, they would be a hit.

  79. drbob1117 says: Sep 23, 2009 3:49 PM

    @jjjones, evilboy128: Look, I couldn’t care less whether Jacksonville keeps their team, I live in Philly…. What seems like every other post on this website by Florio or any of his colleagues have been about teams that are likely to be blacked out, and your team always makes the list. Weaver has even been quoted in this board as saying he doesn’t think all the tickets will be sold this year. Florio has speculated that there is a chance all 8 games could be blacked out. So don’t get on your high horses criticizing anyone who thinks that your team is at least on a list of teams that could move….Almost any media outlet who reports this story today is likely to include the Jags among the possible teams that COULD move to LA… who knows which team actually will be moving? BTW, Wayne Weaver is a businessman above all else….Right now it’s in his interest to say exactly what he’s been saying all along. That doesn’t mean that he won’t change his tune if the LA guys offer him something that’s better than he has now. Investor gadget already listed one of the factors that could change Weaver’s mind; there are probably countless others. If I were a Jag fan , I would probably react exactly like you guys are, I’m just saying be realistic, that’s all.. Odds are you’ll probably get to keep your team; but somebody is moving there; it’s the 2nd biggest market in the country.

  80. JSpicoli says: Sep 23, 2009 3:52 PM

    to whoever spewed that LA wuold be bummed if the Raiders moved back, because “of all the OAK lowlifes coming there every other weekend”
    ummm, dude, LA is where the filth lives, as bad as Oakland is, LA is worse, and you know bupkiss about football.

  81. Bob Nelson says: Sep 23, 2009 3:55 PM

    New home of the vikings.
    Best have both an NFC and an AFC team.
    The sooner the vikings move and earn some revenue the sooner they can pay back all the welfare money taken from the Chiefs, Packers, and Cowboys.

  82. Bababooey says: Sep 23, 2009 4:28 PM

    Al Davis wanted a refurbished Coliseum but the LA Council wouldnt allow it. (They didnt want to allocate taxpayer funds towards it at the time).
    Late Rams owner Georgia Frontierre simply felt that she needed to bring her team back to her hometown of St Loius. It’s rather ironic that she had her remains buried in Beverly Hills. CA. So much for her “hometown.” I dont think it had anything to do with lack of interest. Remember, during the mid to late 80s the LA Rams was an underrated football team that usually had an avg of 5-6 games above .500 records that posed a great challenge to the 49ers year in and year out and almost went to the Superbowl in ’89 only falling short to a last minute TD to the 49ers. After that period, Frontierre lacked patience & decided to “make her move”
    More than likely, the Chargers of San Diego will move to the new stadium. They wanted a facility of their own but San Diego Council members did not give them the green light nor supported the idea. I just dont see how any other team in the NFL would move here. So likely scenario, the L.A. Chargers-AFC Western Division. I’d change the name, the logo, and the color scheme though

  83. purpleguy says: Sep 23, 2009 4:31 PM

    Vikes won’t be moving, just ain’t gonna happen.
    Even if they were, how in the hell is a privately funded stadium remotely workable in this economy? Capital markets are tight, real estate values are down and tenants/homeowners for adjacent development are non-existant, particularly in California. That state has shown they won’t support a team, so all of a sudden they will pay the necessarily high seat license and ticket fees for a privately funded stadium? Heck, the Yankees, Giants and Jets are having a tough time in NY of all places. I think Roski’s selling snake oil here folks.

  84. Chickenfoot says: Sep 23, 2009 4:31 PM

    Yeah Bob, not all of us are quite smart enough to have “Stock'” in our football team.
    What’s that trading for again? $0.00?
    But hey, you are “part owner” right?
    Biggest freaking joke perpetuated on a fanbase ever.
    The funniest thing I’ve seen on TV in the last 5 years, is the idiot Packer fans demanding Farve be brought back. Some 270 woman, hollering, “I’m a stockholder, and I demand to be heard!”. You may as well wipe your ass with that piece of paper, it’s all it’s good for.
    I wouldn’t be so sure the Pack isn’t getting some welfare checks either.

  85. Raiders own the Steelers says: Sep 23, 2009 4:40 PM

    to whoever spewed that LA wuold be bummed if the Raiders moved back, because “of all the OAK lowlifes coming there every other weekend”
    ummm, dude, LA is where the filth lives, as bad as Oakland is, LA is worse, and you know bupkiss about football.
    Hey Spicoli…..Mr Hand wants to see you.
    Oakland is the Detriot of the West Coast.
    Your city has horrible weather and deplorable beaches. Your city worships crack pipes and needles. Your women look like Ellen
    L.A. has a billion things to do. Beaches and Beautiful women, alond with great weather.

  86. Bababooey says: Sep 23, 2009 5:12 PM

    yeah, first of all, my suggestion that the Chargers are likely to move to L.A. is not coming from a person living outside of Los Angeles. I’ve lived in southern Cal my whole life. I was more a Rams fan than a Raiders during the 80s since they were more consistent against big name teams like the Cowboys, Packers and 49ers. But I rooted for them as well during the Willie Gault, Marcus Allen, Hostetler, and Howie Long years. As of today, I watch whatever’s on t.v. so going to an actual game in over 15 years since I was a kid is going to be something
    I do agree that the Raiders have a very strong fan base here but coming from another person’s comment, I dont think Al would submit ownership of his team to Ed Roski Corp. therefore I find it hard to see him relinquishing it if they move back. And having the Raiders fans outnumbering Chargers fans in L.A. isnt going to persuade Al to move here on that alone. Nevertheless, whoever moves here, I will root for, Raiders or Chargers or the Periwinkles. I’ve read about the Chargers’ plea to have a stadium of their own but as far as the Vikings, last I read from the owner in the SGV Tribune was that the last thing he would do is move the MN Vikes to Los Angeles.
    And finally @ Lucas’ comment, are you even from here man? Cause the pig slaughter house is about 15-20 miles EAST from CoI in Chino. The stadium to be built is near a golf course on a hill. It’s surounded by the suburbs of Diamond Bar, Walnut, West Covina, and Pomona where some of our best athletes in baseball come from. City of Industry is just that–an industrial city with factories and not a farm land.

  87. InvestorGadget says: Sep 23, 2009 5:53 PM

    @drbob1117
    “Right now it’s in [Wayne Weaver's] interest to say exactly what he’s been saying all along.”
    Couldn’t have put it better myself.
    Of course Weaver is going to say he’s not moving the team. But then again that’s exactly what Bob Irsay, Art Modell, and bunch of other professional sports owners have said before moving or selling their teams.

  88. Tdk24 says: Sep 23, 2009 5:55 PM

    “Lifelong Vikings fan, sad to say but after seeing how the MN fans have treated their home team over the last few years I would not be surprised in the least to see them follow the Lakers to LA. I was amazed last year when the Vikes had to get an extension to sell out their playoff game, it’s a shame!!! I’ll always bleed Purple regardless of what city they call home.”
    Dude you are sooo crazy. When was the last time there was a Vikings blackout? 1997 maybe?
    How many games have been blacked out in Oakland since they came back? It’s easier to count how many have NOT been blacked out. The only reason a team is going to move to L.A. is to because their current market is dieing or they should never have been awarded a team in the first place (jacksonville).
    But the Raiders will be the team to move there, watch and see. The only reason they left is because the Memorial Collesium was damaged by that earth quake and was not being fixed and the fact that the NFL sabotaged their Hollywood Park deal. Al will have his luxury boxes, no more lame infield dirt, and the stadium will hold the SB more often than that wet sloppy piece of crap stadium down in miami.

  89. Tdk24 says: Sep 23, 2009 6:07 PM

    OMG, i just thought of something while reading over these posts, again. Some were asking about building a stadium before having a deal with a team to play there.
    What if they build this fancy stadium and the NFL signs a contract with them to have 2 different teams play there each week. That would be better than sending 2 teams to Mexico, or the UK or Japan. If they did it right, they could market this thing like Monday Night Football.

  90. midwest says: Sep 23, 2009 6:29 PM

    One more time……Last year the Jaguars ranked 19th in the league in total attendance, and was not blacked-out once. That is a fact!
    One more time, the season ticket holders who did not renew in Jacksonville, did not not renew because they didn’t want to, but rather because they lost their jobs. Jacksonville is a construction and construction supply town, an insurance town, and a paper mill town. All three of those industries have taken a beating. Over a dozen construction companies have temporarily relocated to New Orleans and Houston, where there is work.
    The Vikings make much more sense than Jacksonville. If Brett Favre had not signed with the Vikings, they would probably have every game blacked out. When Favre signed, they sold over 2,500 season tickets, and 10,000 single game tickets. That is in an area of over 3 million people! At that ratio, which city is more interested in football? A city of 800k in Jacksonville who needs one in 11 people to buy a ticket to sell out, or an area of the Twin Cities, who only needs one in every 5o people to buy a ticket to sell out their stadium?
    On top of that, teams have relocated in the past not because of attendance issues, but because of stadium issues. The Vikings have a major stadium issue!
    Also, the TV market size in LA does not matter if they start having their games blacked out, which is what would happen after 5-10 years. If you black out a game in Jacksonville, the 47th biggest market in the US, or you blackout a game in LA, the 2nd biggest market in the US, the net result is not the same as you lose much more advertising dollars in LA and it’s 5 million population than in Jacksonville and it’s 800k population. On top of that, the cost of doing business in LA is MUCH larger!
    Finally, Weaver has said, over and over again, that he is not leaving Jacksonville! PERIOD! They don’t have a stadium issue in Jacksonville, and his lease is relatively cheap!
    Stadium issues are why teams relocate!

  91. R8R_BOB says: Sep 23, 2009 6:38 PM

    A shout-out to Bababooey. I was the one who said Al Davis is not going to lose control of the RAIDERS to play in a new stadium and we are both right. Roski is not going to spend a billion dollars to build a stadium and let a team, any team play there and he gets paid on a lease agreement. He is going want a majority ownership deal out of it.
    Who are we kidding? This is Al Davis. “Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heaven.” applies to him.
    If staying in Oakland allows him to maintain control, he is going to stay there. He won’t be Art Modell and lose control of his RAI-DAHS.

  92. Backinthesaddle says: Sep 23, 2009 7:32 PM

    Will the refs have to officiate in Spanish?

  93. Bigskyvikes says: Sep 23, 2009 7:58 PM

    Silver&Black666 says:
    September 23, 2009 11:54 AM
    People who don’t live in California cant understand but if you lived here you would understand why even when the 49er games are sold out the stadium is 1/4 emp
    ————————————————
    Well, thats pretty simple to figure out, all the season tickets were sold prior to the start of the season. All the individual game tickets were sold and they all went to the game and a 1/4 of the season ticket holders stayed home, that was tough. I don’t have to live there to figure that out!
    ————————————————–
    @midwest
    Do you really think you know what these owners of Jacksonville or Minnesota are going to do and not going to do?
    You havent a clue.
    Whoever the idiot that said Mn Vikes don’t sell out, they havent been in Mn for the last 12 years.
    Its been sold out with no blackouts.
    Also the signing of Favre only made the sales of tickets happen in a snap, it would have happened anyway, just like the last 12 years.

  94. midwest says: Sep 23, 2009 8:50 PM

    @Bigskyvikes
    Look it up. Every team that has relocated in the past has done so because of stadium issues, not attendance issues. Attendance is a relatively minor issue, depending on how much the owner pays the city for the stadium lease (unless the owner owns the stadium like in NE and Dallas). A blackout does not affect the NFL bottom line under the current CBA, since the TV contract pays no matter what.
    Now tell me that the Vikings don’t have stadium issues.
    Also, this is the first year that the Vikings needed to sell 2500 season tickets and 10,000 single game tickets with only a few weeks remaining before the season started.
    Here is the bottom line. If you don’t think that the Vikings are a prime candidate to relocate, more so than the Jags because of their stadium issues, then you are very blind.

  95. redwhitemafia says: Sep 23, 2009 8:52 PM

    I do like the sound of the L.A. Jaguars. But keep an eye on the Vikings and Chargers, who both have serious stadium issues. Those three make the most sense if this stadium is to be built soon (within the next 1-3 years).
    It won’t be the Bills (staying or going to Toronto), Rams (lease is not up till 2015), 49ers (probably going to Santa Clara), and definitely won’t be the Raiders. Roski is NOT interested in bringing that franchise to his building.
    If it was the Jaguars, I totally agree that you should switch the Rams to the AFC South and put the LA Jaguars franchise in the NFC West. That gives you Houston, Indianapolis, Tennessee, and St. Louis. In the NFC West, you would have Seattle, San Fran, Arizona, and LA.

  96. midwest says: Sep 23, 2009 10:10 PM

    Jaguars lease does not end until 2030.
    http://jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/122902/jag_11340226.shtml

  97. InvestorGadget says: Sep 24, 2009 12:50 AM

    @midwest
    While I agree that the Raiders and Vikings are more likely candidates for moving to LA, you’re the one being blind if you don’t realize that the Jaguars are next in line in the likely candidate list.
    Besides those two teams, only the Falcons are less valuable than the Jaguars. And the Jaguars are in the bottom 7 in revenue. For comparison, of the other teams typically mentioned in the “moving to LA” list, the Bills, Chargers, and Rams are all worth more and generate more revenue than the Jaguars.
    In other words, don’t act so surprised that the Jaguars are, rightfully, smack dab in the middle of the likely candidate list.

  98. Bigskyvikes says: Sep 24, 2009 8:36 PM

    midwest says:
    September 23, 2009 8:50 PM
    Now tell me that the Vikings don’t have stadium issues.
    ————————————————
    They have the need for a new stadium yes, but its not causing them to lose money to the point that it would make more sense to move the team!
    Besides, after this year, I gaurentee a new stadium, you watch!
    Also, this is the first year that the Vikings needed to sell 2500 season tickets and 10,000 single game tickets with only a few weeks remaining before the season started.
    ———————————————-
    Ok this one, where do you get your “inside info” down there in florida? The slow sale, than the burst at the end has happened every year, I live here!
    Here is the bottom line. If you don’t think that the Vikings are a prime candidate to relocate, more so than the Jags because of their stadium issues, then you are very blind.
    ————————————————-
    Ok this stupid comment, I dont care about the Jags, never said anything about it, could care less if they even played, besides where they play!
    Every team out there has the risk, its all about money, but if anyone thinks the Vikings, or the Jags are even in the top five teams to be moved are just haters of the team, they have no idea about them!

  99. midwest says: Sep 24, 2009 9:35 PM

    I don’t live in Florida. I live in Chicago. The “midwest” name should have clued you in on where I live.
    I will “gaurentee” a new stadium? I will guarantee you that it won’t happen!
    http://www.startribune.com/politics/state/40198337.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiacyKUUr
    Don’t sit in here and talk like the Viking fans are these great fans who 100% support their team. You guys almost had a home playoff game blacked out.
    Here is the bottom line. You believe what you want to believe. You are obviously a Vikings fan, and I am not Jaguar fan. I am simply looking at all of the facts, and the fact of the matter is the Vikings lease is up, which is a horrible lease to begin with, fan support is down, and LA is calling.

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