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Freeman: Moss is dogging it, again

We read with great interest Mike Freeman’s new column regarding the efforts (or lack thereof) of Patriots receiver Randy Moss during Sunday’s 26-10 win over the Falcons.

Freeman, of CBSSports.com, chronicles with great detail the return of Randy’s classic lollygagging.    Per Freeman, Moss didn’t block on running plays.  And often the men he was supposed to impede ended up making the tackle.  On pass plays not designed to go his way, Moss jogged off the line of scrimmage, letting the safeties know that there was no reason to worry about Randy running past them.

But he still caught 10 passes for 116 yards, and coach Bill Belichick praised Moss after the game.

So what gives?  In April 2007, the notion that the Patriots would want Moss on their team was unthinkable.  He was the exact opposite of everything for which the organization stands. 

And so Moss was on a short leash.  One false move, and he would have been gone.  Indeed, rumors snaked through the league in early September of that year that Moss possibly was in danger of being released.  Though no one took the rumors seriously, the intended audience consisted of one person.

Moss.

So now that he enjoyed the best season of his career in 2007 and kept his head down and mouth closed during the lost season of 2008 as he waited for 2007 Part Two to unfold in 2009, he realizes that the switch can’t be flipped as easily as he thought.

It’s possible that Moss isn’t deliberately taking plays off, but that he merely has retreated to his nature now that he has attention span has expired.  But it’s also possible that Moss wants out, and that this is his way of making it happen.

Indeed, if the Pats made it clear two years ago that they wouldn’t tolerate this kind of stuff from Moss, common sense suggests that, if Moss engages in this kind of stuff, they’ll send him packing.    

But Belichick is no idiot; he won’t be letting Moss walk away.  Belichick knows that Moss has a friend in the league.  A quarterback friend.  And that quarterback friend is now playing for the team with which Moss initially made his mark.  And that quarterback friend could be putting ideas in Randy’s head regarding the possibility of finishing together the job that Moss started 11 years ago.

It’s pure speculation, but it comes from our basic understanding of how things are in the NFL, and how things get done.  Despite Sunday’s uncanny last-second catch from a little-known player whom the Pats jettisoned before the season, Brett Favre knows he needs a field-stretching receiver in order to duplicate John Elway’s ride into the sunset.

And Favre knows the perfect man for the job. 

And Brett Favre openly has lobbied for Moss when Favre played for the Packers.  So what better way to fulfill his repeatedly denied yet undeniable desire to stick it to Ted Thompson than by finding a way to bring Moss back to Minnesota?

UPDATE:  In fairness to Moss, he was dealing with a back injury that, as one source told us, left him “really struggling” and in a “ton of pain.”  That said, we’re also told that there were indications last year that Moss was taking plays off, primarily in the immediate wake of quarterback Tom Brady’s season-ending knee injury. 

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195 Responses to “Freeman: Moss is dogging it, again”
  1. LawDog says: Sep 28, 2009 1:58 PM

    Wow! Now that’s a stretch even for you guys!

  2. khayos says: Sep 28, 2009 1:58 PM

    This is so ridiculous I had to sign up. Have you heard the Moss press conferences? Seem the ongoing friendly interaction with Brady & Moss on the sidelines. On top of that, it was widely reported Moss had a back injury and the locker room swelled with pride that he stepped up and played where he could have sat down.
    This is perhaps the stupidest article I’ve ever seen posted on PFT and that’s saying something.

  3. Florio-is-a-tool says: Sep 28, 2009 1:58 PM

    Or, as reported by the Patriots, he has had an injured back for quite some time and was rightly listed as questionable on the injury report. Perhaps his participation in the game would be mentioned by a Peter King-type as “heroic.”
    But why let the facts get in the way of juicy gossip, dudes?

  4. canamac86 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:00 PM

    Florio at his Favre-rumor-mongering ways again! First he blames Favre for the Vikings letting Bobby Wade go and now, Favre is responsible for Randy Moss’ lack of effort! The formula ‘Favre + Random story = Great read!’ doesn’t always work!

  5. nosleN boB says: Sep 28, 2009 2:00 PM

    Wow, what a stretch Florio. What a looooonnnnngggg stretch.

  6. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM

    This is ludicrous. Reports said Moss could barely raise his arms high enough to get his jersey on before the game and yet he went out there and made 10 catches and played a key role in the Win over Atlanta. No wonder Moss hates the media so much. Irresponsible “journalism.” Now STOP stirring the pot eh.

  7. dlmcc0909 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM

    Whats great about you Florio is that only you could come up with a conspiracy theory like this one. I found it to be a fun read but I dont buy it. Even if Moss was trying to angle for his release, Belichik would not part with him for the same crap platter that the Patriots sent to the Raiders for him. And if its Minnesota, they would treat it as if it were a trade with the Jets.
    bottom line is the Patriots are very vulnerable this year and they need all hands on deck. Trading Moss would be like conceding the divison to the Jets which they would never do

  8. MadMatt says: Sep 28, 2009 2:01 PM

    reallly?????

  9. Kidekk says: Sep 28, 2009 2:02 PM

    What are you talking about?

  10. BradyGazelle says: Sep 28, 2009 2:03 PM

    Yeah – you’re probably right on the money Florio!
    I’m sure it has nothing to do with the Patriots only dressing 4 WRs yesterday and running around 80 offensive plays.

  11. vikings rule says: Sep 28, 2009 2:03 PM

    now that’s a rumor that makes my nipples hard & my sneaker squeak !!!

  12. nflallyear says: Sep 28, 2009 2:03 PM

    I saw a clip where an announcer claimed the pass was intercepted because Moss was dogging it on the route.
    You could see Moss obviously slowing down. Probably thinking the pass wasn’t coming his way.
    By the way, this was two weeks ago against the Jets. You can see it by just watching the clips of the interceptions.

  13. eric says: Sep 28, 2009 2:04 PM

    Thats ridiculous and you know it Florio.

  14. RogerSucks says: Sep 28, 2009 2:05 PM

    S…..T….R…….E………T………..C……..H,
    Freeman is biased, look back at his training camp visit to New England. He started complaining because Randy Moss didn’t address the media while he was there.
    116 yards at lollygag speed, wonder what he would rack up at full speed? 200+ yards?
    The little Favre consipiracy is nice too, I guess you guys assume he was on the grassy knoll too.

  15. SoCalSean says: Sep 28, 2009 2:06 PM

    “It’s possible that Moss isn’t deliberately taking plays off, but that he merely has retreated to his nature now that he has attention span has expired.”
    Huh?? Come on Florio!! Get an editor

  16. DocBG says: Sep 28, 2009 2:06 PM

    I’ve been a vikes fan for far too long to consider this a possibility of happening. Don’t get me wrong, it wouldn’t be as far fetched as Favre playing for the vikings but things that seem impossible usually don’t happen. Favre comming to the vikes, that amazing win on sunday, and your musings about moss comming home all seem nearly impossible, its highly unlikely that all 3 would happen. Truth be told, it would be downright scary for opposing teams. You’d have a monster passing game to go with one of if not the best running game in the league. Maybe moss doesnt see a championship comming his way in NE and wants to come home to try it again?
    Another realistic possibility is that his back is really hurting him and he’s taking it easy on plays that he can. if Fred taylor can pick up 100+ yards, the guy that moss was supposed to block probably wasn’t the first guy who should have made the tackle.

  17. texasPHINSfan says: Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM

    you guys need to kill the auto-refresh on your rumor mill. it makes reading the page almost impossible. i’m in the middle of an article halfway down the page when it reloads and now we have to scroll back to where we were.
    why can’t we just refresh when we dictate?

  18. Diggs says: Sep 28, 2009 2:07 PM

    I’m pretty happy I decided to discontinue reading this dude’s (Freeman) articles a long time ago.

  19. pondbridge says: Sep 28, 2009 2:08 PM

    What is this, alternative reality week? Ridiculous! Moss had a bad back and played Wes Welker’s role instead, going over the middle against the Falcons, often getting the snot knocked out of him. Which is about what Freeman’s fiction is worth.

  20. whywerule says: Sep 28, 2009 2:08 PM

    lol…This blog blurb about Moss sets a new precedent for reaching on this site. Sadly, it is a new precedent that one of the bloggers will probably find a way to exceed.

  21. Mr Krinkle says: Sep 28, 2009 2:09 PM

    No chance.

  22. Nemesis says: Sep 28, 2009 2:10 PM

    I signed up just so I could comment that this has to be single-handedly the stupidest thing I have read, and will read, this week.

  23. Beal22 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:11 PM

    This is a joke Florio.

  24. doublestuffflorios says: Sep 28, 2009 2:12 PM

    Moss is already playing with the best quarterback in the NFL. Why would he want to play with 40 year old Favre?

  25. Wiscdave says: Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM

    Psssst, Florio!
    Favre was on the grassy knoll.

  26. stanjam says: Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM

    It was clear that there was something wrong with Moss yesterday, and I don’t mean laziness. He didn’t go up after balls, and he didn’t even really raise his arms to get them.
    He was hurting, clearly not at 100%. Yet he was still over 100 yards for the day. Imagine that.
    And yet some idiot says he is being lazy. Playing hurt isn’t lazy. Moss hasn’t returned to his old ways. He is as clearly dedicated to this team and the Patriot way as any player on the team, and it shows.

  27. TheDPR says: Sep 28, 2009 2:13 PM

    I’ve seen baseless speculation before but the Favre-poisons-Moss theory has to be the BEST BS THEORY EVER!

  28. jcw000 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:14 PM

    He’s had more receptions for the first 3 games this year than in any other year he’s played the game – and he’s playing hurt – this week, he was a gametime decision – what a retarded story – so lame it was disgraceful

  29. winkel33 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:14 PM

    THIS IS 100% made-up, fiction, by Florio, “Indeed, rumors snaked through the league in early September of that year that Moss possibly was in danger of being released.”
    And your theory that you write about Moss going to the Vikings is not only baseless, but it is irresponsible. Do you have any standards whatsoever. Just because someone striving for attention writes an article on a day where Moss was a complete difference-maker for the Patriots, doesn’t mean you should 1) post it, and 2) make up b.s. theories. Has anyone with the Patriots ever for one second had a problem with anything Randy Moss has done since arriving in New England? Last year, when he wasn’t getting the ball much, when Welker was the top target, people like you Florio kept waiting for him to do something so you could write your little articles. He never did. He played hard every game.
    And for the idiot who wrote the original article, Moss was on the field for 76 of 83 plays yesterday. Get a clue.

  30. plm0307 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM

    I had to sign up to post about this. This is the most ridiculous post Florio has ever made.
    Freeman is a hack and it looks like Florio isnt far behind.
    Moss was the best player on the field yesterday! Maybe you should actually watch the games before you post about them.

  31. Poo Flinging Monkey says: Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM

    Freeman is a hack. Not as bad as Borges, but getting there.

  32. The Wishbone says: Sep 28, 2009 2:15 PM

    This is one of your dumbest posts ever, Florio. Moss knows the offense ran out of gas in 2007, he knows it will take a while to get it going this year. Moss was wide open yesterday in the end zone and Brady’s throw was ten yards off. If Belichick was unhappy, Moss wouldn’t be on the field.
    Please bring back the smarter “Mike Florio” that wrote for this site a few years ago, before the idiot took over.

  33. endzoneview says: Sep 28, 2009 2:16 PM

    You should have ended this article with-
    “and that’s how many degrees Randy Moss is from Kevin Bacon.”

  34. gwinn1952 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:16 PM

    Man….what the hell was I thinking when I clicked on this article to read. Then I read how it’s Brett’s fault that Randy dogs at the line of scrimmage….get a life man…not everything that happens in the NFL is Brett’s fault even though you’d like to believe that is so. Surprised you didn’t title it: “Brett Farve tells Randy to Dog at Line of Scrimmage so he’ll be traded to Vikings”.

  35. SJHesketh says: Sep 28, 2009 2:17 PM

    The original article you linked to, Florio, has not a single mention of Moss’ servere back pain, an injury that had him listed as “questionable” for the weekend. A late edit on your part, thrown in as an afterthought at the end of your nonsensical ramblings, does not absolve you from passing on utter and complete stupidity.
    To state the obvious: you’re just making sh*t up now. And you’re not even bothering to attempt to hide it. Your obvious pandering for hits on your website would be amusing if it wasn’t so cynical and transparent. Run along and go about the business of becoming quietly extinct.

  36. reginaldlewis says: Sep 28, 2009 2:18 PM

    Moss had a hurt back against the falcons; i was at the game and saw Aiken stretching Moss’ back out between series; he couldn’t even bend over; in fact their were numerous articles written about moss’ heroic effort going out there and playing when he could’ve sat out. Freeman has been hating on Moss for years this is his 5th Moss hate article in 3 years…its ridiculous no wonder Moss is such an a-hole to the media

  37. winkel33 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:19 PM

    words and phrases highlighting why what Florio writes here is not even worth our time to read it. he just makes stuff up and uses this platform to send it out to anyone willing to read: “It’s possible,” “But it’s also possible that,” “It’s pure speculation,”
    I love that your update at the bottom is the most important piece of information – the guy played hurt for crying out loud. Do some reporting for one second instead of create rumors, and you would know Moss was spotted limping out of the lockerroom after the game, a game where he had a number of huge catches, and played more offensive snaps than anyone other than Brady.
    And why would Moss want out of NE – to go play with an old man who can’t finish a season, hasn’t won anything in the league in well over a decade? This article is the new low for this web site.

  38. mustbechris says: Sep 28, 2009 2:20 PM

    holy crap, we just jumped to like 40 conclusions here.
    “It’s possible that Moss isn’t deliberately taking plays off, but that he merely has retreated to his nature now that he has attention span has expired. But it’s also possible that Moss wants out, and that this is his way of making it happen.”
    Since this is PFT, let’s obviously go with the second one.
    “But Belichick is no idiot; he won’t be letting Moss walk away. ”
    Because the next logical conclusion is that Moss is walking away.
    “And that quarterback friend could be putting ideas in Randy’s head regarding the possibility of finishing together the job that Moss started 11 years ago.”
    That’ll put some asses in the seats up there. Can’t go one article on here without mentioning Lord Favre, can we?
    “It’s pure speculation”
    “So what better way to fulfill his repeatedly denied yet undeniable desire to stick it to Ted Thompson than by finding a way to bring Moss back to Minnesota?”
    THAT will show them! Maybe if we’re lucky they’ll acquire Moss sooner than later so we don’t have to go through the annual off-season circus that is the Brett Favre Retirement And Then Subsequent Unretirement After Crying In A Nationally Televised Interview.
    Jesus, I had to laugh at how quickly you jumped to multiple conclusions on this one. I just watched “Randy Moss isn’t blocking” turn into “Randy Moss is going back to Minnesota”. wow. Usually it takes some time for multiple conclusions to be jumped to, such as the “Eagles want to start Vick instead of McNabb next year” one that you keep harping.
    Given that…does this mean you’re gonna be touting ‘Moss to Minnesota’ for the next, oh, year or so, right up to next season’s trade deadline?

  39. Massappeal says: Sep 28, 2009 2:21 PM

    Florio, do you recite irresponsible journalism just to get hits to your web site???
    Moss, despite being injured, played 76 of 83 snaps, a fact completely ignored by YOUR story evaluation. We expect that from mike freeman, and maybe, more and more, we expect it from YOU.
    Randy Moss has matured from a great player to a great team player. And one of the very BEST in the league.

  40. mixman34 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:22 PM

    Florio… how dare you. It would bring a single tear to my eye to see our boy finally come home……………..

  41. hrmlss says: Sep 28, 2009 2:22 PM

    This story is stupid and insane, right up to the moment the Patriot’s trade him to Minnesota…..

  42. Ken1313 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM

    By far…THE most ridiculous posting ever…….we call this….STRAW GRASPING to the highest degree. So Freeman, just happened to go thru EVERY play the Patriots have run this season and by ACCIDENT..came up with this theory …right? MORON…he specifically went looking for something…and as a guy who ATTENDS the games…..I can tell you , FREEMAN IS GRASPING. He has an axe to grind. Obviously he wasn’t watching the same game as the rest of us……..ridiculous.

  43. Paul_R. says: Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/25/moss-might-not-go-for-the-patriots/
    Moss might not go for the Patriots
    Posted by Mike Florio on September 25, 2009 4:29 PM ET
    The good news for the Patriots is that receiver Wes Welker, who missed last week’s loss to the Jets with a knee injury, is expected to play on Sunday against the Falcons.
    The bad news is that, out of the blue (perhaps it’s a blue moon), receiver Randy Moss appears on the injury report as questionable, due to a back problem that kept him from practicing on Friday.
    A total of eleven Patriots, including Welker and Moss, are questionable. The others are tight end Chris Baker (ankle) cornerback Darius Butler, who popped up on the report today with a thigh injury, center Dan Connolly (back), receiver Julian Edelman (ankle), safety Brandon Meriweather (ankle), defensive lineman Myron Pryor (calf), receiver Matthew Slater (elbow), defensive back Shawn Springs, who popped up today with a knee injury, and cornerback Terrence Wheatley (knee).
    Also, and to no surprise, quarterback Tom Brady is probable with a right shoulder injury.
    ______________________________________
    REMEMBER?????

  44. PerryMason says: Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM

    Come on back Randy. Ziggy will send a jet to pick you up.

  45. John from Concord says: Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM

    Mandates from your new corporate masters making you a little desperate for traffic, Florio? All this made-up-out-of-thin-air Pats crap can’t be for any other purpose than to drive your traffic stats up. I guess it’s the end of PFT as we have known it. I hope you’re getting paid well for it.

  46. winkel33 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:23 PM

    One more note on this joke of a post by Florio –
    explain to anyone how Moss wins up in Minnesota to play with his friend (who knew they were so close?) Favre this season? Or is this for next season that Favre is wispering in Moss’s ear? You are out of your mind by writing this post. If there were any standards whatsoever with this site, you would not be allowed to print this post. It is internet journalism at its absolute worst.

  47. mikef76 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:24 PM

    If Moss is dogging it and not being a team first guy, please explain his new (2009) role as a going-over-the-middle possession receiver.
    It’s a role usually reserved for younger, much less celebrated players. And it probably goes a long way toward explaining why he has a bad back in the first place.
    He’s doing a lot of dirty work and yesterday put the whole team on his (bad) back.
    This story is awful.

  48. mustbechris says: Sep 28, 2009 2:24 PM

    “In fairness to Moss, he was dealing with a back injury that, as one source told us, left him “really struggling” and in a “ton of pain.” That said, we’re also told that there were indications last year that Moss was taking plays off, primarily in the immediate wake of quarterback Tom Brady’s season-ending knee injury.”
    And yet…he’s STILL on the team, despite the “indications” last year.
    PFTMZ strikes again. Come on, Florio, this one is straight up ridiculous.

  49. HailtotheRedskins says: Sep 28, 2009 2:25 PM

    He’s hurt moron’s! Try running with a back injury and see how if feels. folks are always looking for the worst in people. Did Mike Freeman ask Randy about it?

  50. WTE says: Sep 28, 2009 2:25 PM

    Did you even watch the game Florio before you wrote this stupid piece?
    I concur with everyone who says this is the worst article on PFT in awhile. This place is turning into The Onion because most articles seem like fiction here lately.
    You need to get back to basics Mike because this site ain’t like it used to be.

  51. eeerockski says: Sep 28, 2009 2:25 PM

    What the hell is Bernard Berrian, chopped liver? Maybe the reason he hasn’t caught any long balls is because they haven’t been trying to throw the long ball? That’s not as much of a stretch as this story, is it?

  52. Bill Cowher's Chin says: Sep 28, 2009 2:25 PM

    # texasPHINSfan says: September 28, 2009 2:07 PM
    you guys need to kill the auto-refresh on your rumor mill. it makes reading the page almost impossible. i’m in the middle of an article halfway down the page when it reloads and now we have to scroll back to where we were.
    why can’t we just refresh when we dictate?
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    The page has never refreshed on me, unless I refresh it, must be a setting on your system…..

  53. Resolution says: Sep 28, 2009 2:28 PM

    So when a person doesn’t have a real job, they just dream this up? Really Mike, you can do better than this.
    Why not have two posting categories, main stories and secondary? Because this post is seriously a waste of time.

  54. Sasquash says: Sep 28, 2009 2:29 PM

    Moss may have been hurt but I think its an act. He needed a reason for getting shut down by Revis the week before. Moss has been and always will be a loser. Lazy, selfish, and overrated come to my mind when I think about him. Go back to the 07 SB, Brady hit him in the hands on a deep ball(he was well covered) that would have probably been 6 if it was Fitz or AJ. Hes a bum, and he will never win a title in the NFL.

  55. itsacurse says: Sep 28, 2009 2:30 PM

    MOSS AND PENNINGTON ARE GOING BACK TO MARSHALL???????

  56. holycow says: Sep 28, 2009 2:33 PM

    Unbelievable.
    The guy plays through obvious pain, puts up great numbers, makes some great catches at key times, and then gets this written about him.
    And you wonder why not all players treat the media like the royalty you seem to think they are.

  57. Stone says: Sep 28, 2009 2:33 PM

    Jesus, posts like this are the reason why mainstream media outlets label bloggers as “losers living in their Mom’s basement.” Seriously, this is some of the worst, baseless speculation that I have ever seen. It seems like a thinly-veiled attempt to drive hits to your site by throwing Favre and Moss’ names into a post. Of course, NBC will oblige you and put this on their front page and both of you will get your hits. Why don’t you just post that Randy Moss has naked pictures of Miley Cyrus next. I’m sure that would drive even more hits to your site.

  58. CT Pats Fan says: Sep 28, 2009 2:34 PM

    The *real* problem with the Moss/Favre connection is that Moss would have to commit himself to a team in February of 2010, some 6 months before Favre decides whether or not he’s going to come back and play football (and for whom).
    OR
    He could stay with a future hall of famer, and a team with a legitimate shot at the Superbowl.
    Seriously, what would you choose?

  59. meatbat says: Sep 28, 2009 2:34 PM

    Last time i checked the patriots won the game…nough said. and if you guys haven’t figured it out that’s all bill belicheck really cares about. i find it hard to dogg on a guy that has had 10 catches in two out of three games. Tom and Bill love Randy and to be honest with you they don’t run the ball enough for anyone to care if Randy is blocking enough. he has 24 catches through three games. he’s on pace for 128 catches. Leave the guy alone.

  60. Ralphie says: Sep 28, 2009 2:35 PM

    Florio, nice, you’ve sunk to a new low in order to get eyeballs on your site.
    You and Freeman are cut from the same bolt of cloth.
    The one I wipe my ass with.

  61. footballisfun says: Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    What a fantastic piece of fiction.

  62. Bob Loblaw says: Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    I can’t believe that after all these years people still haven’t figured out Randy Moss.
    His lolligagging is part of lulling defenders to let their guard down.
    When he was with the Vikings he often was criticized for not agressively going after the ball. Yet look at how many times he didn’t put his arms out to reach for the ball at caught it with his body in the final split second because he knew DBs read the receiver’s body language (if they lost site of the ball or weren’t watching the QB).
    When it worked — and it often did — he looked brilliant and fooled many DBs. But when it didn’t, he would be criticized for not trying.

  63. VicksPuppies says: Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    Yikes – what a horrible article. Guy plays injured, records a great game, and gets blamed for dogging it? Unbelievable.

  64. scarolina42 says: Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    Once again, chalk this down as Florio’s obsession with dogging anyone who stepped foot on Marshall University’s campus. Yes Marshall football sucks, but no one nationally cares about your obsession Florio. So give it a rest with the crusade to make Pennington, Leftwich, Moss, Bradshaw and, for christ sakes, Marcus Fitzgerald look dumb. Everyone knows what these players are and who they are. So bring something real to the table and stop sucking off all things WVU.

  65. svn says: Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    the usually unforgiving boston media had this to say about moss yesterday
    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/football/patriots/view.bg?articleid=1200535&srvc=sports&position=recent
    “Randy Moss had a lot of trouble getting dressed after yesterday’s 26-10 win against the Atlanta Falcons. He was in obvious pain as he somehow managed to put his pants and socks on with only the slightest amount of bend.
    Then he slowly made his way out of the Patriots [team stats] locker room, looking more like a man three times his actual age.
    Moss had difficulty doing these routine tasks because of a back problem that turned up Friday and put his status for the game in doubt, but his teammates were glad he had no trouble playing football.”
    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2009/09/falcons_gather.html
    “But Moss’s impact on this game began long before he even caught a pass. On a day where Wes Welker was again sidelined with a mystery knee ailment, Moss became all that much more important to an offense that dressed just four wide receivers, including special teams ace Sam Aiken.
    Just putting on the uniform inspired his teammates.”
    just a quick research goes a long way florio

  66. steeler-hater says: Sep 28, 2009 2:37 PM

    Moss’ work ethic won’t ever be confused with that of Jerry Rice.
    He just doesn’t have the “drive” to do as work as hard as he should. He relies solely of his physical talents.
    Trouble with doing that is that someday his skill will diminish and without putting in the hard work when he should have, he won’t be able to adjust his game to remain effective once he loses a step or 2…

  67. AD4MVP says: Sep 28, 2009 2:38 PM

    LOL, I guess I can’t say anymore that what has already been said. Wouldn’t that be something though…

  68. PirateFreedom says: Sep 28, 2009 2:41 PM

    There simply aren’t enough readers to create the sheer volume and repetition of posts required to describe how stupid this article is .
    But let me add one more to this inadequate list.
    Injured player has great game while playing in pain and earning the admiration of his teammates and some idiots want to cry lazy?
    you are a moron

  69. Brad says: Sep 28, 2009 2:41 PM

    Not a Pats fan, not a Moss fan, so I really wouldn’t care even if this were true… but man, this is so laughable, it doesn’t even qualify as a good water cooler rumor. It almost makes me want to start my own blog to see if NBC will give me a bunch of money to make sh*t up for a living. Wow. Just wow.

  70. VonClausewitz says: Sep 28, 2009 2:41 PM

    This is total bullshit.

  71. Kidekk says: Sep 28, 2009 2:42 PM

    Seriously, Florio, this is an article that shows how you start stuff where there is no story. This might be the straw that finally breaks the camel’s back as far as your credibility is concerned (I don’t find you that credible, more amusing and interesting, but not credible, at least not anymore). What compelled you to write something like this? It’s mind-boggling.
    And you wonder why athletes hate talking to the media. You write this garbage, and take no responsibility for it, but you are the first person to call out athletes for not being men and holding themselves accountable. Everytime you’re wrong, you never admit it, you try and bring up some little factoid (ie. “That said, we’re also told that there were indications last year that Moss was taking plays off, primarily in the immediate wake of quarterback Tom Brady’s season-ending knee injury.”) that tries to defend your reasoning. Stick to commenting on the off the field stuff, because that’s where your “expertise” lies.
    Wow.

  72. Twiz says: Sep 28, 2009 2:44 PM

    Here is my problem with this whole scenario dictated by Florio. In one breath he talks about how Farve is too old to heave the ball down field, the next he is saying that its possible that Farve wants Moss back on the Vikings so he has the WR threat.
    Give me a break. I said it before, I’ll say it again……pick a story Florio and stick to it!

  73. planktonDisciple says: Sep 28, 2009 2:45 PM

    So preposterous it’s postprevious!
    Moss is hurt. Even with Brady getting 2 seconds to throw on most plays for the first two games, an injury for part of the second game, and a painful back in game three, Moss has two games over 10 catches and 100 yds. Even when trying he never was a “complete” receiver. His blocking is below average when trying. His job is to present a deep threat, make some long gains, and help open up the field for the short game, and other receivers. The Pats maligned defense is doing very well, losing all of the stars during the offseason, losing Mayo and losing Wilfork. Over half of their defense is out or gone and they improve week by week.
    The Pats with Moss will make the playoffs, and then we’ll see. Burp Fatre threw a forward pass almost 2 yards over the line. He threw a sideline pass that should’ve been picked and returned for a td. He got all the credit for Percy Harvin’s return, the 6 seconds he was given to throw the final pass, and the incredible catch by the receiver. Fatre has been getting hit hard a few times every game. By game 12 he will be walking wounded … again. The Vikings will not win a SB under Fatre, with or without Moss.

  74. zygi milf says: Sep 28, 2009 2:46 PM

    eeerockski says:
    September 28, 2009 2:25 PM
    What the hell is Bernard Berrian, chopped liver? Maybe the reason he hasn’t caught any long balls is because they haven’t been trying to throw the long ball? That’s not as much of a stretch as this story, is it?
    ***************
    He hasn’t caught many short throws either. Brought back memories of Troy Williamson this week.

  75. Abe Froeman says: Sep 28, 2009 2:47 PM

    Stupid.

  76. PFTiswhatitis says: Sep 28, 2009 2:48 PM

    Moss is leading the league with the most catches to this point and he is averaging 10 yards per catch. Man does he suck.

  77. JustinG says: Sep 28, 2009 2:50 PM

    Florio — how much time did you spend writing that heaping pile of fail? Had to be more time than it took me to conclude that you were a moron.

  78. The RBM says: Sep 28, 2009 2:51 PM

    Damn Mike, with all of the folks here who dislike the Pats with a passion, you have managed to do something that I havent seen done in quite some time:
    Get NFL fans to nevermind loyalties and come to the defense of a Pats player.
    Man Mike, you have really out-done yourself this time. I mean, Ive seen you stretch before, but not on this level. Its unfortunate that you didnt include one of your trademark links to the story you ran last season when you heard that Moss was taking plays off since of course, you posted that tid-bit. You DID post that right?
    I loved the “oh by the way” update you posted at the end of your in-depth analysis and breakdown of the Favre induced “give up attitude” Moss is supposed to have now. “In fairness to Moss”, lol. Awesome.
    The RBM

  79. Jason Frost says: Sep 28, 2009 2:55 PM

    This is a joke..Why would Randy Moss want out of the most pass-happy offense in the league (the Pats have thrown 142 times through week 3, and the next highest is Arizona with 122) with one of the best QBs in the league throwing him the ball?
    ..And you think he wants to go catch passes from Favre for one year (two max)?
    I suggest you stick with what you’re good at Florio..reporting the news way before everyone else..objectively

  80. JCD says: Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM

    I usually love this site but this “story” was such sorry nonsense, it really is inexcusable for you to publish it, Florio. I understand “rumors” but as the comments here indicate, it was very well known that Randy Moss was hurting pretty badly yesterday, and for him to gut it out speaks volumes to how he has grown under the leadership of Belichick and his relationship with Brady.
    Really, it is kind of sad to see you put this garbage on your page, it really is.

  81. Skol Vikes says: Sep 28, 2009 2:58 PM

    WOW. REALLY???
    I guess you dont care how dumb this makes you look. Because i know you dont believe it for a second, you just write this because it gets a lot of attention.
    Minnesota would love to have moss back, but we would have to pay 3x what we got for him (thanks red mcombs for trading the #1 reciever in the league (back then) for a 2nd rounder…)
    If the vikes were willing to trade a 1st and a 3rd for a receiver we would have boldin or brandon marshall by now.

  82. DanSnyder says: Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM

    Florio your best bet is to just come out and say you fudged this up and then retract the article.

  83. MNfan55 says: Sep 28, 2009 3:04 PM

    We hate Moss. Keep him on the East Coast.

  84. Atlanta Love says: Sep 28, 2009 3:05 PM

    10 catches 116 yards? I thought that was a good thing? Am I missing something?

  85. Rick says: Sep 28, 2009 3:07 PM

    WOW I guess this would be a crazy story if Florio wasn’t associated with NBC which we all know is the tops when it comes to unbiased media coverage (sarcasm mode off)

  86. Mike McCarthy's Moobs says: Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM

    Since joining NBC, the journalistic integrity of this site has really taken a dive.

  87. mel3 says: Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM

    i’m a big fan, but recently some of your stuff is bordering on ridiculous. it’s like your trying to make the NFL into a soap opera.
    you obviously don’t follow the patriots, moss was injured and i’ve yet to see him act like a pre-madonna yet in new england. when was he ever known as a blocking wr? i don’t think i ever expected him to be that with the patriots and am ok with that. quit being a drama queen.

  88. KingerIC3000 says: Sep 28, 2009 3:14 PM

    You guys do realize this is a BLOG. So you come to a blog looking for your sports news, and then question the way in which Florio (a blogger) provides it? You want Florio on that wall! You NEED him on that wall. Lighten up, if you read US Weekly for your political news, expect to be uninformed and occasionally entertained at best.

  89. Dustin Chandler says: Sep 28, 2009 3:15 PM

    stupid is as stupid does.

  90. Kidekk says: Sep 28, 2009 3:22 PM

    “You want Florio on that wall! You NEED him on that wall.”
    Haha

  91. CornFlorio says: Sep 28, 2009 3:33 PM

    Translation of all Pats fan comments here:
    WAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!

  92. Sparlimb says: Sep 28, 2009 3:36 PM

    Please Florio. Let’s be honest. As most Vikings fans know, we used up all Moss had left and then let him drift away. He’s several steps slower now and an average receiver. To be honest, I can’t think of one player I’d want off of the Patriots. The majority of that team is over the hill and I predict they will fail to make the playoffs again. Wonder if Bellichek will be on the hot seat this off-season…

  93. PimP JuicE MaN says: Sep 28, 2009 3:40 PM

    KingerIC3000 , YOU ARE RIGHT, I NOTICED THAT MANY BLOGGERS DON’T REALIZE THIS IS A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE VOICE THEIR OPINION, WE MAY NOT AGREE WITH IT BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS, AN OPINION, WE ALL HAVE THEM.IT DOESN’T MEAN YOU ARE RIGHT OR I’AM WRONG.
    RELAX……….. AND HAVE FUN WITH IT

  94. Hauschild says: Sep 28, 2009 3:42 PM

    Don’t ya’ll understand yet? It’s ALL Brett’s fault.
    Evidently, it makes sleeping at nite much easier for some.

  95. urinal mint says: Sep 28, 2009 3:46 PM

    What in the hell is this garbage. What a wild, stupid conjecture.

  96. azure says: Sep 28, 2009 3:50 PM

    “I play when I want to play.”
    That’s all anyone needs to remember about the cancer, Randy Moss. As great as he is, no team will ever win a Super Bowl with him.

  97. cfuska says: Sep 28, 2009 3:55 PM

    All I will say is, and I’m sure this will bring a lot of people firing back comments at me, but a good friend of mine went to Marshall with Moss. He said all Moss used to do was sit in his room all day smoking crack and passing the ball to himself on NCAA Gamebreaker on the playstation (ooh, that takes me back). Anyway, that probably gives you an idea of where his priorities lie, regardless of how many years he’s been in the league. I’ve alway seen Moss as a self-centered prick and I know i’m not alone on that.

  98. Nitro says: Sep 28, 2009 3:57 PM

    WTF is this? Come on now, you don’t go out there for 100+ yards while almost being out of the game with an injury and “dog it”
    And ya know as a NE fan.. if randy wants to go “dogging it” for 100+ a game all year, I have no problem with that at all. taylor can dog it for 100+ on the ground a week too.. let the laziness (and points) flow.
    BTW, I noticed Moss blocking a few times during the game.. nice job making shit up just to have something to say.

  99. rjp1130 says: Sep 28, 2009 4:01 PM

    That’s not what I heard. It seems he’s friends with the Celtics Kevin Garnett and Moss has always wanted to be a Celtic. So, the Celtics are going to release Paul Pierce to make room for Moss. Come on Florio, you can do better than that!

  100. iiiput says: Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM

    And if Brady were on target with his passes yesterday, Moss would have had around 200 yards receiving and at least 2 TDs. Lazy bum

  101. HawgNSonsTV says: Sep 28, 2009 4:05 PM

    Florio….lol…you’re a DRAMA QUEEN!…I love it in ya…but for the love of god…wait until you get off work to play ……fantasy football!

  102. thehoodedone says: Sep 28, 2009 4:07 PM

    Is this the Mike Freeman you are quoting??http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/mike-freeman-cbs-sportsline-busted-lying-about-resume-562992/
    Seriously?!?

  103. kennethnoisewater says: Sep 28, 2009 4:08 PM

    In other news, Terry Bradshaw just died.

  104. TheDudeNH says: Sep 28, 2009 4:11 PM

    I have an idea:
    In order to prevent totally rediculous stuff like this, Florio needs to implement betting into PFT. After every article, he will list odds on his topic of speculation actually happening, and we get to bet on it. He will then be held accountable for totally outlandish stuff like this because he’d either need to make the odds 1,000,000 to 1, or be out a lot of money.
    It would help us differentiate what’s being posted simply to generate hits on Perpetual Favre Talk, and what’s being posted because it actually has relevance to reality.

  105. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM

    Listen to the video from the Jets game, starting at the 27 second mark – Brady has just thrown the interception to Revis, and Dierdorf makes a point of going after Moss:
    * “I thought that halfway through that pattern that Randy Moss started to feather it back, and Tom Brady thought he was flying, but he wasn’t”,
    * “about 20 yards down the field Randy Moss choked it back a gear”
    * “but, I think Randy Moss threw Tom Brady a bit of a curve ball”.
    Youtube:
    http://www.youtube.co/watch?v=2YJZm-9TN1k
    NFL.com:
    http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-york-jets/09000d5d812cbaa1/Jets-Defense-Highlight-WK-02-vs-Patriots-2009

  106. BernardPollardIsAnAss says: Sep 28, 2009 4:23 PM

    “In fairness to Moss?”
    Really Florio? You are an f-ing idiot. Not only was he injured, Brady said this morning that he and Moss would have been “scarey” yesterday in the passing game had he been healthy. Your update should say, “after learning that Moss had a significant back injury yesterday we should never have written this post. Sorry Randy, PFT is a bunch of morons and so is this idiot sports writer we are reporting on.” I know you are reporting on someone else’s story, but you are certainly putting in your two cents. I am pretty sure Brady knows a bit more about Moss’s effort than you or some other dumb ass sports writer.

  107. Seeryer says: Sep 28, 2009 4:24 PM

    Florio,
    When you starting taking your cues from Mike Freeman you are really hopeless. Freeman wouldn’t have any idea what Moss is supposed to do on plays he was not involved in. He catches 10 balls and his team beats an undefeated team by 16. I know, lets gossip about Randy’s hustle on running plays. That will stir the pot. The TMZ of the NFL AKA PFT.

  108. footballnut says: Sep 28, 2009 4:24 PM

    This article is making a stretch that even, well Moss couldn’t make on the sidelines to catch a Brady pass.
    I was at the game, and the guy was hobbling from the beginning of the game and he laid himself out for a handful of passes. Especially the two that kept a 3rd quarter drive going, (the one which BB went for a 4th and one conversion). That catch him made while taking the ball out of the air as it was going over his head was a thing of beauty. A lazy player would not have done that.
    To suggest this guy is taking plays off is speculation as the guy had 10 catches for 110+ yards.
    Mark Freeman is trying to make jumps that Evel Knievel wouldn’t dream of doing.
    What a hack thing to write, and if it was intended just to get readers to comment at least it did the trick…

  109. YouAreRetarded says: Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM

    This article is so stupid I registered just to show my disdain. You get paid for this? REALLY?

  110. bayou says: Sep 28, 2009 4:25 PM

    That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Everyone that just read that, is now DUMBER for doing so. Thanks for wasting our time again. We can always leave it upto Florio to start some stupid ass Farve story. There has got too be a better website somewhere. I have no idea why we subject ourselves to this garbage.

  111. CanadianVikingFan says: Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM

    Florio why didn’t you just say Brett Favre this time?

  112. YouAreRetarded says: Sep 28, 2009 4:28 PM

    Like, seriously. I guess you’re doing your job because you’re getting people to talk, but I’m not sure that’s worth putting up a story so asinine that it’s like you’re intentionally being an idiot. Unbelievable.

  113. KOZ says: Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM

    I think Mr Freeman does not like Mr Moss. I remember a similar situation. I was, in fact, a pain in the neck as a student in school. There were many things I learned from that experience, but two points are pertinent here. First, once you are marked as a “problem” everyone (teachers) will expect problematic behavior. (I can’t tell you how many times I answered “here” for the first attendance of the year and got the comment “Are you going to be trouble in this class?”) Second, those (teachers) who are looking for something wrong will find it, even if it is not there. (If I got a “D” it must have been because I was not trying – it couldn’t possibly be because I didn’t “get it”, if I got an “A” I must have cheated – it couldn’t possibly be because I was interested and I “got it.”)
    All that said, people are human, and I created the circumstance where that kind of expectation resulted. That does not make it OK, but I now understand it. Randy Moss also created the circumstance where those so inclined are expecting a “problem.” I have watched all three games, in earnest, I have not seen what Mr Freeman has reported. Mr Freeman, sometimes football players, on certain plays, just get a “D.” Do YOU get it?

  114. davis1281 says: Sep 28, 2009 4:30 PM

    Listen to the video from the Jets game, starting at the 27 second mark – Brady has just thrown the interception to Revis, and Dierdorf makes a point of going after Moss:
    * “I thought that halfway through that pattern that Randy Moss started to feather it back, and Tom Brady thought he was flying, but he wasn’t”,
    * “about 20 yards down the field Randy Moss choked it back a gear”
    * “but, I think Randy Moss threw Tom Brady a bit of a curve ball”.
    ******************************************
    And then Revis said after the game, sometimes Moss will do that to try and lul the DB.
    Nice try dumbass!!!
    Hate on hater, hate on…………….

  115. Adam-Chris Scheftersen says: Sep 28, 2009 4:34 PM

    This is a non-story. I’m all for dogging the Vikings, but come on. Get some substance first.
    Moss jogs a play out. He’s angling to go to Minnesota! Brett Favre’s tampering with Randy Moss!
    Conspiracy theorists unite!

  116. bucc19 says: Sep 28, 2009 4:36 PM

    I think Florio should be investigated for tampering

  117. NATE says: Sep 28, 2009 4:37 PM

    YOU LOSERS ARE A JOKE
    JOKE
    THIS IS NOTHING BUT ANOTHER ARTICLE THAT EQUATES TO CRAP…..THIS IS ABOUT AS TRUE AS MATT WALSH AND HIS WALK THROUGH TAPE

  118. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 28, 2009 4:38 PM

    Youtube moved that video of Dierdorf calling out Moss, sorry – try this, about the 32 second mark:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb3Q0fGi8ec

  119. worldinmyeyes says: Sep 28, 2009 4:41 PM

    I couldn’t believe my eyes reading this. It just got stupider by the sentence. I am literally embarrassed for you Florio, this is horrible “journalism” and speculation even by your standards.

  120. longtimereader says: Sep 28, 2009 4:42 PM

    Mike, don’t know if you read these comments or not, but this is heartfelt – you’re killing what was a must-read site. Back in the day, the site might only be updated 5-6 times a day, but I always felt like there was some nugget of truth in all the postings – I could find stuff here that I couldn’t find anywhere else. Maybe it was just an illusion, but I felt like you had actual insiders telling you things.
    Most of what you post nowadays seems to be a re-hash of other media types or just completely made-up shit. This article seems to hit both categories.
    I know you’re a media insider now, so maybe nobody in the know actually talks with you anymore. Whatever – the site is no longer a must read; it’s more like an old habit that’s starting to fade. Since you made this your full time job, it’s clearly more about quantity than quality – too bad. I hope somewhere someone else is working on a true insider-rumor site. Anybody know of one?

  121. kelbo says: Sep 28, 2009 4:45 PM

    Florio, I understand part of your job is to report on articles other’s have written on the NFL, that’s fine. But your comments on this article imply you agree with the article. If you watched the game this is ludicrous. I was at the game and numerous times Moss was having team mates help stretch out his back while on the sidelines. He was hurting and played a great game. you should step up your game!

  122. Jessemann says: Sep 28, 2009 4:46 PM

    I, too, registered here simply to say that I believe that Mike Florio has zero credibility as a journalist, and that’s a shame, because a lot of people interested in factual reporting seem to gravitate to this website.

  123. klite87 says: Sep 28, 2009 4:47 PM

    You guys are both FOOLS! You Florio and Freeman! I use to have respect for Florio and Im very dissapointed that you would even give credence to this type rabble rousing!
    Its like trying to create controvercy!
    Karen Guregian wrote in todays “Herald” , “Moss had a lot of trouble getting dressed after yesterday’s 26-10 win against the Atlanta Falcons. He was in obvious pain as he somehow managed to put his pants and socks on with only the slightest amount of bend”
    Doesn’t sound like a man who’s playing like he wants out.
    Chris Baker after yesterdays win said ” Obviously he’s a great player. He came out there and sucked it up. He had a lot of big catches for us. He had that big fourth-down catch, he picked up a lot of first downs. He was a big reason we were able to move the ball.”
    That doesn’t sound like a player who’s dogging it to get off a team?
    Tom Brady said of his number 1 WR ” “He played great. He made some big catches for us. He ran a lot of routes, so I’m sure he’s going to be tired tonight. He’s a great player and we’ve got to get him involved in the game, more so even than last week. I think we made a concerted effort to get him the ball and he always comes up big for us.” Yea sounds like he”s not getting along with his QB either hugh?
    Brady had a front row seat to Moss’s performence Sunday. It doesn’t sound like he had any problems with him.
    Lets see what the hard nosed, pull no punches coach says
    ” He got a lot of single coverage and he did a good job. He ran a lot of different routes, We threw deep, we threw inside, we threw outside, we threw some quick passes to him. I think he did a good job attacking the coverage, the corners and even some of the split safety coverage, working on the safeties. We hit some, we didn’t hit some. He’s a tough guy to cover. We try to design and create situations where he has an opportunity and a little bit of space to work. He sure made a lot of plays today.”
    Wow! That doesn’t sound like a guy who’s dogging it to get out of town?
    You should delete this column. Its rubbish!! You sound STUPID!!!

  124. cfuska says: Sep 28, 2009 4:50 PM

    Wow, it didn’t take long for this story to crack the most commented list. It’s not even off the home page yet. You Pat’s fans are unreal. You’d think Florio was throwing a bomb on the whole Cheatriots organization. Just calm down people, it’s just an article. Your precious Randy isn’t going anywhere right now, although i’m sure he’s mad he hasn’t found the end zone yet. I know I am since he’s on two my fantasy teams. Bastard.

  125. Paul_R. says: Sep 28, 2009 4:54 PM

    So, Mike, do you think you’ve heard enough “WTF Florio!!!” comments today or do you need more to fill your daily quota?

  126. pondbridge says: Sep 28, 2009 4:57 PM

    Can we have credibility percentages next to the stories so we can know whether to even read them or not? I would have just passed up Freeman’s drek if the correct 0% had been affixed.

  127. klite87 says: Sep 28, 2009 4:59 PM

    cfuska
    I think, you should check your facts before you call a the greatest team of this century cheaters! Every team at all levels of Football watch, scout and yes tape opposing sidelines! If you ever played the game you would surely know this simple fact. You must be just like Florio and Freeman though. A parental cellar dwelling turd who’s never done anything atheletic in your life!

  128. bustabloodvessel says: Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM

    the whole story is crap. i have been a vikings fan forever, and have watched randy ever since he was drafted. i don’t care what anyone says, the only time i have EVER seen him “take a play off” is when he has been injured, or the team ran a no huddle offense and had him streaking every play during that time.

  129. Tomb says: Sep 28, 2009 5:09 PM

    Florio, looking at the amount of comments on his preposterous article, laughed and laughed.

  130. eldestructo says: Sep 28, 2009 5:17 PM

    Oh man, that was a fantastic read. It would make a hell of a screenplay for ANY GIVEN SUNDAY 2, that’s for certain.

  131. regal says: Sep 28, 2009 5:18 PM

    Mike – I am on the same page as longtimereader. used to be a huge fan but have seen the quality of the site decline over the past 5-6 or so months.
    First-this blog entry is just low quality from a lot of aspects. But I think it is a larger issue with your blog is that you have too many contributors, all of whom feel the need to contribute. In my opinion, this creates a dynamic that when there is no real news to report across the league, which happens from time to time, stuff like this is posted to fill the post quota. To me, it takes away from the quality and insight this blog used to offer.
    An earlier poster made a great point that posts like this are the reason the established media likes to paint bloggers as overweight losers working out of their mom’s basement. I don’t agree with that assesment as a whole but posts like this make me understand where they are coming from.
    My humble advice-cut the number of contributors to you plus one. This will eliminate the need for each person to feel the need to post – even if there is nothing to post.

  132. hayward giablommi says: Sep 28, 2009 5:18 PM

    @ cfuska:
    Between your allegations that Randy Moss smoked crack, your “Cheatriots” talk and your usual self righteous indignation regarding how ridiculous this article is, you are too much.

  133. KOZ says: Sep 28, 2009 5:22 PM

    It’s not just an article, it is a farse. The myriad of comments critical of F and F’s lack of journalistic professionalism talks to the problem. It is not an article, it is, a farse.

  134. kelbo says: Sep 28, 2009 5:28 PM

    Florio, one last thing Coach BB gave Randy a game ball for his efforts. One of the greatest coaches of all time thinks Randy played well. Want to rethink your comments? And maybe post them, probably not, loser.

  135. Ken1313 says: Sep 28, 2009 5:29 PM

    Morons….Randy Moss was give the GAME BALL yesterday……..there is no truth to this story……its a writer trying to make something out of something that does not exist.

  136. Shaun Lowrie says: Sep 28, 2009 5:33 PM

    You know what was a good idea? Having a ‘Most commented on stories’ section right at the top of your site.
    That’s the one part of PFT that really is ‘must read’

  137. VoxVeritas says: Sep 28, 2009 5:38 PM

    No way Moss or any other player would dog it while a member of the Patriots.
    haha it wasn’t so funny when it was a notion floating around in my head but now that I see the words in print it’s funny. clickety click!

  138. J.Cannon says: Sep 28, 2009 5:39 PM

    Favre, Moss, and A.D. are arguably the best players to ever play their postions on the same field at the same time all lacing it up for THE PURPLE. I’m with Florio on this one. Moss back to the Vikings is in the works. He want’s to come back to Minneapolis and win the Vikings long awaited first superbowl in front of the fans he loves. You guys heard it here on PFT first. Another great post Mr. Florio. Keep up the good work!

  139. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 28, 2009 5:43 PM

    @kelbo – “One of the greatest coaches of all time thinks Randy played well.”
    My lord, the crap is getting deep in here. Bill Walsh, Vince Lombardi, and Paul Brown are somewhere sharing a huge laugh right about now.

  140. CornFlorio says: Sep 28, 2009 5:54 PM

    KOZ says:
    September 28, 2009 5:22 PM
    It’s not just an article, it is a farse. The myriad of comments critical of F and F’s lack of journalistic professionalism talks to the problem. It is not an article, it is, a farse.
    __________
    The word is “FARCE”, MORON…learn how to spell before you deign to criticize ANYONE’S work product, FOOL.
    GFY…along with the rest of you Pats fan LOSERS.

  141. dancer642 says: Sep 28, 2009 6:34 PM

    Floria and Freeman = DUMB & DUMBER

  142. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 28, 2009 6:38 PM

    Good things you morons in the media aren’t afraid of embarrassing yourselves otherwise learning that BB gave him Moss the Game Ball would drive you to tears.
    Too bad however you all aren’t held to the same standards you try to hold players and coaches. For if you were, we’d have been rid of most of you a long time ago.

  143. BillBoy says: Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM

    Florio your arrogance has reached new heights…you probably love it when the comment pages errupt because of the attention a stupid story like this creates…stop with the drama and garbage you arse

  144. Kidekk says: Sep 28, 2009 6:49 PM

    ItalianArmyGuy says:
    September 28, 2009 5:43 PM
    @kelbo – “One of the greatest coaches of all time thinks Randy played well.”
    My lord, the crap is getting deep in here. Bill Walsh, Vince Lombardi, and Paul Brown are somewhere sharing a huge laugh right about now.
    ——-
    The fact that you named 4 other coaches doesn’t mean that he isn’t “one of the greatest coaches of all time.” That is, of course, unless you can name 10 coaches who have won 3 Super Bowls.

  145. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 28, 2009 6:54 PM

    PS – Everybody in New England is laughing at you two nitwits. Now you know why you can’t get any time on WEEI. They rather laugh at you.
    CornFlorio,
    That’s the best you can do? Criticize a person for a typo and conclude they must be a moron for misspelling a word? That’s supposed to make you look smart when at the same time you embrace an idiotic made-up story designed simply to bring attention to the Authors at the expense of other people. So who’s the real moron? That’s right, you are.

  146. Ken1313 says: Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM

    ItalianArmyGuy…..try not to let your hatred coud your stupidity….YES, Bill Belichek, no matter how much YOU are anyone else hates him, IS one of the greatest coaches of all time. Ya know who says that?
    EVERY coach or analyst who has anythign to do with the NFL and any fan (here’s the key…with a BRAIN) who watches the NFL. Matter of fact, he may very well be THE BEST when he finally retires. That’s fact ……but again..facts mean nothign to people like you….as long as you can spew your anti-Patriot venom. Most of us laugh hysterically at morons like you……
    Oh and I PRAY that you are in the Italian army…and not the US Army….cuz having someone like you defending our country would be a joke

  147. Mattmanplus says: Sep 28, 2009 6:58 PM

    Hahahaha Mike Florio you dope! Bill Belichick gave Moss the friggin game ball. You and Freeman should feel pretty damn stupid. You just lost a ton of credibility. Reminds me of the sh*tbag Tomasse.

  148. FireJerryJones says: Sep 28, 2009 7:26 PM

    Wow. You can tell when a guy has sold out.
    Must be some stipulation in Florio’s contract about # hits / day.
    ProFootballTalk switching to TMZ

  149. stetai says: Sep 28, 2009 7:38 PM

    Normally I’d say your dreaming, but I also thought you were in the Summer of 2008, when you speculated that Brett Favre would only play for the Jets for one year, get them to release him unconditionally and then sign for the Vikings, and that’s exactly what happened.
    the only thing I disagree with I think his aspirations are a little bigger than “sticking it to Ted”, he wants to win the Super Bowl, and the Packers are as much of an obstacle to the Vikings as the Detroit Lions are. The teams he needs to worry about are teams like the Bears, Giants, Eagles, etc.

  150. klite87 says: Sep 28, 2009 7:48 PM

    Hey! Italian corndog! BB isn’t on the same level as Lombardi or Walsh? Check your facts! 3 time super bowl winning coaches then get back to us! The only one here who’s laughing is me at you!
    DOPE!

  151. klite87 says: Sep 28, 2009 7:51 PM

    Sorry.
    Lombardi isn’t on that list.
    Belichick, Knoll and Walsh
    3 time Super bowl winning coaches.

  152. tj.52 says: Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM

    “Randy Moss dogged it for 10 catches for 116 yards” – really? Are you really saying that?
    That has to be one of the most asinine statements I’ve ever read on this board.
    No one has been more critical of Moss than I have over the past few years, but if you watched that game on Sunday and understood his condition (back) at gametime, you can only sit back and admire him.
    Not only did he play without complaint, he was crucial in the final scoring drive. Whatever he was in the past, he is now a Patriot.

  153. CliveRush says: Sep 28, 2009 7:55 PM

    CornFlorio
    You have a lot of hate in you. Do you root for a team or do you just hate the winners and hard working. Your mom wants you to clean up the basement, excuse me your bedroom with the furnace.

  154. kanman151 says: Sep 28, 2009 7:58 PM

    I created an account specifically to say this….
    I will never read another thing you write. EVER.
    You didn’t watch the game nor do you know anything about Randy’s injury. How do you even have a job? Hey everyone did you hear? Mike Florio !#$%ed Mike Freeman. See this journalism thing is easy…. Just think of something in your head, type it and it has to be true…..
    I feel better. Now off to cbssports to create a new acct there….. Stick to stories about horse racing or tennis you literary hack.

  155. GRpatriot says: Sep 28, 2009 8:20 PM

    This is “Grassy Knowl” badgeman stuff…?

  156. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 28, 2009 8:40 PM

    klite87 says: September 28, 2009 7:48 PM
    Hey! Italian corndog! BB isn’t on the same level as Lombardi or Walsh? Check your facts! 3 time super bowl winning coaches then get back to us! The only one here who’s laughing is me at you!
    ===============
    Facts are facts. Belichick was a huge bust at his first head coaching stop, and then won with Parcells’ players. His assistant coaches have been busts as head coaches, unlike the others I mentioned, who all had assistants who won championships of their own. He has not been innovative, as were guys like Paul Brown, Lombardi, and Walsh, as I mentioned earlier. Those were guys who completely changed the game with their genius innovations, AND won multiple championships. Beyond that, they never had to pay huge fines for their indiscretions.

  157. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 28, 2009 9:02 PM

    ItalianArmyGuy, please change your screen name and leave your ethnicity out of it. We already have enough obvious Italians here giving us all a bad name and we really don’t need another one.

  158. hayward giablommi says: Sep 28, 2009 10:03 PM

    ItalianArmyGuy says:
    “Belichick was a huge bust at his first head coaching stop and then won with Parcells’ players. ”
    >>>Wow…where do I begin?!? Let’s revisit history…Belichick’s Browns had a very successful 1994 season, advancing to the playoffs, facing off against and beating- you guessed it- Parcells’ Patriots. Who knows what would have happened in 95 if Art Modell didn’t sabotage the Browns season by announcing the team was moving.
    Regarding “winning with Parcells’ players…LAUGHABLE. You conveniently forgot the three years of mediocrity with Pete Carroll and that Belichick cleaned house between 2000 and 2001. Couldn’t have been more than a dozen Parcells’ guys left in 2001. The real question is: WHAT DID PARCELLS EVER WIN WITHOUT BELICHICK? That’s zero playoff games, by my unofficial count. Parcells’ Pats made it to SB 31 when only after – you guessed it- Belichick was brought in after being fired by Clcveland.
    ItalianArmyGuy says:
    “His assistant coaches have been busts as head coaches, unlike the others I mentioned, who all had assistants who won championships of their own. ”
    ^^^^^^^^^
    >>>You use this to knock Belichick…conversely, I could say that various failures by his assistants make what Belichick has accomplished that much more impressive…as in…he actually won with Eric Mangini?!?
    ItalianArmyGuy says:
    “He has not been innovative, as were guys like Paul Brown, Lombardi, and Walsh, as I mentioned earlier.”
    ^^^^^^^^^
    >>>He has not been innovative? Really? Belichick’s teams come in with a different game plan every single week. There is not any team in the league that makes more adjustments to it’s game plan based on the opponent more than New England. If you actually watched the games, you would probably know this, though.
    Epic failure, you are a disgrace to Italians everywhere.

  159. Big Jon says: Sep 28, 2009 10:08 PM

    PLEASE! Those of us (hundreds of millions) who don’t live in New England with fans having no life outside of the Patriots (and Red Sox) realize that Belichick is certainly not one of the best coaches of all time. Winning during a down time in the league doesn’t cut it, just like the steriod-laden Red Sox did in baseball. Just like the Spurs and the Rockets found out in the NBA, winning multiple championships does not make you one of the best ever! All the chowder-head whining won’t change that. BTW: I hope all Italians keep proudly telling the truth and not letting old dogs lie. People forget things when they’re old. :)

  160. GreasyGrissle says: Sep 28, 2009 10:10 PM

    this is just stupid.

  161. sand0 says: Sep 28, 2009 10:13 PM

    I assume that the purpose of this article is to just randomly stir the Favre pot. Florio can’t possibly believe in his own drivel in this case.

  162. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 28, 2009 11:04 PM

    Big Jon
    It is clear that your screenname has nothing whatsoever to do with the size of your brain, which, by the quality of your post, I’d judge to be about the size of a peanut.

  163. CornFlorio says: Sep 29, 2009 12:22 AM

    To The Little Old Puppy….when you post, all we hear is:
    WAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
    STFU, you little pussy.
    BTW, I didn’t embrace Florio’s story…I merely pointed out that if someone wants to criticize ANYONE’S intelligence, the least that they could do is make CERTAIN that they don’t leave any openings for their own words to be attacked.
    As far as someone being a MORON, you have that covered all by yourself…MORON.
    CliveRush…seeing as that “HATING” was INVENTED in New England (as evidenced by the near century of Yankee hatred exhibited by you Red Sox fans) seeing you all accuse others of hating on your teams is a huge laugher for the rest of us.
    GFY, loser…and worry about your own basement room at your mommy’s house. Also, try finding a newer insult than that lame “basement” comment that you used in trade school.

  164. Dom Capers says: Sep 29, 2009 1:11 AM

    Floryo you really shit the bed on this one. Moss is the only option in the passing attack without Welker and still puts up those stats hurt while changing his role to help the team and is dogging it now huh. And the Moss going to Vikings thing is something that kids in Minnesota would say wouldnt it be cool if we got Moss but even they know its stupid and never going to happen. This is some gossip BS that needs to go into the recycle bin

  165. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 8:39 AM

    I love listening to your Cheatriot fans trying to defend their actions. “oh..oh everybody does it, wwwaaaaahhhhh”. You guys crack me up.
    Hayward, good to hear from you. Haven’t heard from ya in a while. Still making incompetent remarks I see. Typical Cheatriots fan. You guys kill me.

  166. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM

    Oh and kite87, I did play sports. A lot of them. So before you tell somebody else to get their facts straight, I’d get your head out of your a$$ and get your own facts straight before you say something about someone that you know absolutely nothing about.
    Typcial Cheatriots fan. All I see in these comments is a bunch of ball babies.
    Rock on, Florio. You post whatever the hell you want because it’s your page. Screw those New England pussies.

  167. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 29, 2009 9:29 AM

    CornFlorio,
    You are just so witty. I love how you launch right into profanity in an attempt to make a cogent point. That’s the sign of an emotionally stable person with a keen intellect. And the use of projection is simply classic.
    Congratulations! You’d be a psychiatrists dream patient. It would take 25 years to unravel your psychosis.

  168. whywerule says: Sep 29, 2009 9:32 AM

    …The real question is: WHAT DID PARCELLS EVER WIN WITHOUT BELICHICK? That’s zero playoff games, by my unofficial count….
    Although this is off-topic, I believe that you are correct that Parcells, as a HC, never won a playoff game without Belichick as his DC. I am reasonably certain that with the Giants, Jets and Pats, all of the playoff games won by HC Parcells included Belichick as that team’s DC. And, as you pointed out, the Parcells coached Pats lost a playoff game to the Belichick coached Browns before Belichick joined Parcells in New England (New Englad was one and done that season). I am not suggesting Parcells was not an excellent HC, a certain HOFer like Belichick, I am just pointing out that having Belichick around as DC clearly made him better. Parcells never won a playoff game with Dallas; of course he never had Belichick as his DC in Dallas.

  169. CornFlorio says: Sep 29, 2009 9:47 AM

    TheBigOldDog says:
    September 29, 2009 9:29 AM
    CornFlorio,
    You are just so witty. I love how you launch right into profanity in an attempt to make a cogent point. That’s the sign of an emotionally stable person with a keen intellect. And the use of projection is simply classic.
    Congratulations! You’d be a psychiatrists dream patient. It would take 25 years to unravel your psychosis.
    ____________
    The only psychiatrists’ dreams here are you New Englanders in denial, where your motto should be “Hating since 1918″. Hating was INVENTED in New England, so man up and take your medicine like a good little boy, Little Old Puppy.
    Oh, and come back when you have something more than the lame “it’s you not me” line, you typical self-important New England chump.

  170. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 10:03 AM

    “TheBigOldDog says:
    September 29, 2009 9:29 AM
    CornFlorio,
    You are just so witty. I love how you launch right into profanity in an attempt to make a cogent point. That’s the sign of an emotionally stable person with a keen intellect. And the use of projection is simply classic”
    Trying to sound smart does not make you intelligent there, guy. Take your nonsensical ramblings elsewhere.

  171. worldinmyeyes says: Sep 29, 2009 10:12 AM

    A day later, and this story is probably the worst opinion piece on football I have ever read. It’s stunningly bad. Tellingly, you have nothing to say about it, except a lame update attempting to justify it. Way to gain respect for you and this site.

  172. jeff says: Sep 29, 2009 10:22 AM

    Just a heads up, this column is about to get crucified AGAIN on WEEI. As if having Belichick make this writing look just plain stupid yesterday wasn’t enough, Dale and Holley are taking their turn at it. Classic.

  173. Grogan-the Barbarian says: Sep 29, 2009 10:27 AM

    Holy Cow! What are you sniffing/smoking/drinking! Wow! I have never seen such garbage in my LIFE! Thye guy had a bad back, and played. He got a game ball from the coach.
    I expect better than this from you. Freeman, not so much. Probably needed a story, so he made one up.

  174. hayward giablommi says: Sep 29, 2009 10:49 AM

    cfuska says:
    “Hayward, good to hear from you. Haven’t heard from ya in a while. Still making incompetent remarks I see. Typical Cheatriots fan. You guys kill me. ”
    ^^^^^^^
    Figures that someone who makes baseless claims that Randy Moss smokes crack would throw out the lame “Cheatriots” card. I could come on here spouting “Squealers” and say that Ben Roethlisberger is a rapist, but not only do I not believe that, some of us prefer to take the high road.
    Nonetheless, since you seem to disagree with me, please spell out point by point which of my remarks is “incompetant” and let’s try elevate the conversation here, huh?

  175. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 29, 2009 10:59 AM

    The first 45 minutes of the D&H show on WEEI was spent laughing at Freeman and Florio. And you’ll be glad to know Mike you were deemed to be the bigger idiot. Congratulations!
    cfuska,
    Sorry, I can’t dumb it down for you. It would probably be best for your ego if you’d stick to the simplistic hateful filled, profanity ridden posts of your brethren. That way your ego won’t be so easily bruised.

  176. JunkYardDogg1156 says: Sep 29, 2009 11:02 AM

    Jeez – IT’S A RUMOR MILL. I have never seen a bigger bunch of guys bash a site for posting true to it’s origin, REPORTING RUMORS! Every one bashes & name calls & then they read the next RUMOR. WTF is wrong with the people that post here? Not everything is fact in a RUMOR MILL, not everything is accurate in a RUMOR MILL. Why does everyone have such a problem understanding what a RUMOR MILL is?

  177. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 11:06 AM

    hayward giablommi says:
    “Figures that someone who makes baseless claims that Randy Moss smokes crack would throw out the lame “Cheatriots” card. I could come on here spouting “Squealers” and say that Ben Roethlisberger is a rapist, but not only do I not believe that, some of us prefer to take the high road.
    Nonetheless, since you seem to disagree with me, please spell out point by point which of my remarks is “incompetant” and let’s try elevate the conversation here, huh? ”
    That right there. That is the basis for my speaking of your incompetence. And don’t act like you always take the “high road”. Don’t make me go back and relist some of comments you made on different Vick articles. I don’t know who you think you’re kidding here Hayward, but stay in the third grade where you belong.
    As far as Moss smoking crack in college, you have nothing to prove me otherwise do you? Huh? What? Oh sorry, couldn’t hear you over the sweet sound of our teams six Lombardi Trophies clanging together.
    What an ass.

  178. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 11:12 AM

    “TheBigOldDog says:
    cfuska,
    Sorry, I can’t dumb it down for you. It would probably be best for your ego if you’d stick to the simplistic hateful filled, profanity ridden posts of your brethren. That way your ego won’t be so easily bruised.”
    Ouch, ooh that — wait, what? Oh, I thought that made sense for a minute. Sorry my mistake.

  179. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 29, 2009 11:37 AM

    cfuska,
    Oh you poor fella. Well, don’t beat yourself up over your inability to read and comprehend well. I am sure there are other things you do really well.

  180. hayward giablommi says: Sep 29, 2009 11:39 AM

    @ cfuska:
    Keep burying yourself. If I had any idea that you were that far off your rocker I never would have wasted my time on you to begin with.
    So apparently it’s my job to disprove your asinine secondhand allegation that Randy Moss is a crackhead; while you attempt to call me out for my opposition to a dog drowning felon being reinstated? Hay-seuss. At least I will know next time to not take anything you say seriously.

  181. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 12:28 PM

    That’s cute Hayward. You and TheBigOldDog make a cute couple. When you two are done blowing each other and have something constructive to post, let me know.

  182. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 1:17 PM

    @TheBigOldDog
    @Hayward
    There you go, Hayward, since you like screwing dogs, there’s one for you. You two make a cute couple. I just wish you two would make sense when you leave comments though. Please, it’s not me you’re hurting, you’re just making yourselves look like asses. Nothing you’ve said in response to my comments could even be considered rational thought. Sorry. Then again, you are Cheatriots fans.

  183. hayward giablommi says: Sep 29, 2009 1:33 PM

    @ cfuska
    Your continuing failure is duly noted.
    Grow up.

  184. cfuska says: Sep 29, 2009 2:01 PM

    So close, Hayward, so close.

  185. ombredunord says: Sep 29, 2009 3:44 PM

    Moss plus Childress? Yeah right!

  186. PackerHaiku says: Sep 30, 2009 9:52 AM

    Lollygagging Moss
    And crickety, old Brett Favre
    Slow motion football
    http://FavreHaiku.com

  187. freakingboneheads says: Sep 30, 2009 4:07 PM

    Moss is Moss, you take the good with the bad.. Moss is not total idiot. He knows doesn’t have the body type to take the pounding like a Boldin or Andre Johnson. If he tried to play like he did, he would be on IR by week 6 every season. I have calves bigger than his, (which isn’t saying much) and I have sat at a desk for the last 15 years. He has been a pro althlete all this time, and is still a bag of bones with a helmet and shouldermapads.

  188. djmoore914 says: Sep 30, 2009 5:33 PM

    I remember when you were a one man show florio…now that you got the man looking over you’re selling the man you used to be…this is not even close to being a solid story, that’s something you hear from an angry jets fan who’s had 10 beers…

  189. greenie says: Oct 2, 2009 8:42 AM

    Wow, I gotta’ start reading this guys column. I like how he writes! Must be something there….

  190. Hovenaut says: Oct 2, 2009 2:35 PM

    Oh, it sounds like the Pats may have a problem here. Or maybe not.
    C’mon kids, the problem child receiver in the AFC East is in Buffalo. Pay attention.
    New England has gotten, getting old. See holes in Belichik’s hoodies now. Moss is giving what he can, wouldn’t doubt the guy (past faux moons and all). When they miss the playoffs I doubt they’ll blame it on Moss needing a backiotomy.

  191. TheWizard says: Oct 2, 2009 9:22 PM

    This is the most poorly timed, ill conceived report of the season.
    The Moss back injury was known before this was written, and Moss’ coach just got done praising his effort.
    Freeman = Matt Walsh

  192. hayward giablommi says: Oct 5, 2009 10:03 AM

    Wow, I gotta’ start reading this guys column. I like how he writes! Must be something there….
    ^^^^^^^
    If you like Patriot hating rhetoric with little no basis in fact or reality, read the disgraced John Tomase of the Boston Herald, and knock yourself out.

  193. this class sucks says: Oct 8, 2009 5:44 AM

    If they keep winning he will keep playing. If they miss they playoffs twice in a row maybe moss becomes a problem three times they are in trouble. This guy is the biggest laziest douche in the world when his team sucks, people say he has changed and thats possible but I think its more probable that its easy to be mature on a winning team.
    Florio (and I am sirus like satalite radio) I love these theories, some are wierd but they are fun to read.

  194. ballhawk1 says: Oct 13, 2009 1:22 PM

    CLOWNS>>>Maybe if the great Tom Brady didnt over throw him by 15 yds he would have better stats! They will say it is a resurgence once Brady shakes off the rust…..Brady is human after that long of a lay-off he is bound to be a little erratic int he beginning.

  195. mikedh says: Oct 22, 2009 8:08 PM

    now i understand why people talk so much sh*t about florio.

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