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Raiders waive player acquired in Moss trade

They say you need three years to evaluate a draft class, but you don’t need three full seasons to evaluate a trade.

So let’s step out on a limb and declare that Oakland’s trade of Randy Moss for a fourth-round pick in 2007 wasn’t Al Davis’ best move, especially after the Raiders waived/injured cornerback John Bowie Wednesday.  (And yeah, we know Lane Kiffin pushed for the deal.  Davis still pulled the trigger.)

Bowie the player Oakland selected with the pick acquired for Moss.  The speedster — is there another type of Raiders cornerback? — didn’t play much in his three years on the team, and struggled with knee injuries.

There was a report earlier Wednesday that Bowie was placed on injured reserve, but ESPN’s Adam Schefter confirms that Bowie was waived/injured.

It’s not entirely fair to criticize Davis for the trade since Moss poisoned his situation in Oakland so thoroughly, but a second day pick for one of the greatest wide receivers of all time is a weak haul, no matter how you rationalize it.

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  1. theTRUTHwillSETuFREE says: Sep 30, 2009 6:50 PM

    This trade still pisses me off to this day. It’s pathetic that a piece of shit that quits on there team gets rewarded by getting put on a better team.
    I think in the very near future, we are going to see that side of Moss again! He may seem happy right now…..wait till the Pats get a few more losses under there belt though!

  2. dangerousdave44 says: Sep 30, 2009 6:50 PM

    According to the Raiders, they did actually put him on injured reserve:
    http://www.raiders.com/team/transactions.html
    Don’t listen to Adam Schefter, he’s a false rumor monger.

  3. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 30, 2009 6:51 PM

    Both Oakland and the Patty’s have 0 Super Bowl wins since the Randy Moss trade, so I call it a wash. There is one winner and 31 losers every year in the No Fun League, and the Raiderettes and the Patty’s are 3-time losers with/without Randy jogging out his routes and failing to block downfield.
    Good luck to both teams – maybe someday they’ll get players with some sack, like Hines Ward – a difference maker who can move them from the loser category to the winner category. However, neither front office seems to have that in mind, so it might be awhile.

  4. Ghost2thePost says: Sep 30, 2009 6:56 PM

    AD Football Inc. has made many mistakes over the years, but pretty unfair to criticize this one. If Kiffin or another young first time coach was to have a shot in hell, a disgruntled leader like Moss could not be around. As for the haul, it’s not like they turned down better offers. Moss had enough leverage salary wise to dictate where he was going and GB didn’t ante up a three. Only criticism from me is using the pick on a short corner that didn’t play that much in college. Guess speed kills goes both ways. Still early, but AD look like he might deserve credit for dealing a pick to get up for Mario Henderson in rd 3 that year. Thought it was a waste of a pick in dealing, and in selecting, but he has been more than solid since taking over for Harris.

  5. mr.kush says: Sep 30, 2009 6:59 PM

    im waiting for another mike freeman article to complain that bowie was dogging it for three seasons in honour of randy moss. This site is a joke.

  6. LiPo says: Sep 30, 2009 7:06 PM

    To theTRUTH:
    You are just bitter you lost Moss for nothing. Moss is an outstanding player and at times has been immature.
    But its not Moss its the Raiders. I would try to do everything I could to get traded from the Raiders if I was on that POS team too.
    When Moss was with the Raiders the OL was 3x as bad as it is now and the QBs were terrible as well.

  7. jaygon says: Sep 30, 2009 7:11 PM

    Yeah, Raiderfan, it’s Randy’s fault…it’s Rich Gannon’s fault…it’s Walt Coleman’s fault…it’s the assistant’s glass jaw’s fault…man,what a joke…

  8. bluenoser says: Sep 30, 2009 7:13 PM

    Diva player + strong coach / leadership = success.
    Moss lost Brady for a full season, played with a QB who could barely get him the ball, missed the playoffs and was a model citizen.
    Players shouldn’t be forced to play on bush league teams like the Raiders. At the end of the day though it’s their fans I feel sorry for their fans.
    The NFL needs to step in and take control of that franchise.
    I wonder what our 2011 first round pick will be?

  9. twinkletoes says: Sep 30, 2009 7:16 PM

    So, is Bowie’s release presumably to make room for Justin Miller? Shoot, I was hoping they were making room for McAlister, Runyan or (super long shot)Garcia.
    Sigh. The Nation can dream.

  10. Fan of Football says: Sep 30, 2009 7:16 PM

    The NFL needs to force Davis to sell the team.

  11. twinkletoes says: Sep 30, 2009 7:21 PM

    Wait a moment, the Raiders cut Louis Rankin to make room for Justin Miller (I think; like I’m gonna keep track of this. That’s Florio’s job).
    Hmmmm… is another signing on the horizon?

  12. RaiderDogg says: Sep 30, 2009 7:25 PM

    Is Adam Schefter your only resource? Maybe do your own research Rosenthal. All you would have to do is go to the Raiders website to see that Bowie was indeed PLACED ON IR.
    http://www.raiders.com/team/transactions.html
    And you guys call yourselves journalists?

  13. Bob Loblaw says: Sep 30, 2009 7:29 PM

    Well the Vikings only kept Troy Williamson and Napepolean Harris — two of the three guys they got from the Raiders for Moss — after three years. Harris may have only last two years. The third guy (the 7th round pick) was cut prior to the season.
    So basically the Raiders got the same value for trading Moss as the Vikings.

  14. Ray Guy says: Sep 30, 2009 7:36 PM

    Bowie can’t stay on the field. He is brittle. The fact we got ANY draft pick for Moss was a steal.
    Moss is a cancer and a quitter. He’s even quitting on routes and blocking NOW, and he’s playing on a super bowl contending team.
    Al has made a LOT of lousy choices and decisions. I can’t wait for him to leave the franchise (one way or the other). He is like 3 day old fish. But, getting rid of Moss wasn’t one of his poor decisions. Hiring the retread and Mr. Bed & Breakfast to run that offensive offense was.

  15. Darth Jay says: Sep 30, 2009 7:37 PM

    The more and more I read, the more and more I realize that ItalianArmyGuy is the single dumbest poster on this site.
    The Patriots front office has forgotten more about building a winner then you will ever know. Get a clue.

  16. Tenebrous says: Sep 30, 2009 7:38 PM

    He will likely sign with New England later this week and quickly become a starter for them before eventually starting in the Pro-Bowl after helping the Patriots win the Super-Bowl… wait, never-mind… he may still be with the Raiders…

  17. Pastabelly says: Sep 30, 2009 7:47 PM

    Big deal, Randy Moss shot himself out of the worst franchise in pro sports. He’s been a team leader and great teammate now for three years and people are somehow upset at that.

  18. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 30, 2009 7:49 PM

    Darth Jay says: September 30, 2009 7:37 PM
    The more and more I read, the more and more I realize that ItalianArmyGuy is the single dumbest poster on this site.
    The Patriots front office has forgotten more about building a winner then you will ever know. Get a clue.
    ================
    And yet you have zero titles with Moss-Brady “the greatest two players of all time”, blah blah blah…
    In the meantime, Hines Ward just added some bling to his collection.
    Maybe YOU should get a clue – Toughness counts in the NFL, and blue collar guys like Ward are what you need for championships

  19. ognee says: Sep 30, 2009 7:50 PM

    Fair enough on your assessment. However, the bigger picture here (be it suprisingly) is ridding the team of the malcontent. Moss wanted out…the Raiders appeased his desire. A fourth round draft pick may have been his market value at the time…I don’t know, but it would not suprise me the least if it was. Most, if not everyone, that watch the NFL game noticed the lack of desire Moss displayed as number 18. Now, a recent post here reported that he may not be going 100% for the Patriots. An all too familar feeling to Raider fans, one that I need not be concerned with…one that I am glad is gone. In a lighter note, I liked Bowie much more than Randy Moss anyway.

  20. Humboldt420 says: Sep 30, 2009 7:55 PM

    I still love Schefter’s Freudient slip on ESPN when he was reporting the Seymour trade to Oakland:
    “Richard Seymour will be an Oakland Raider and the New England Raiders will get a first round pick in 2011.”
    Classic.

  21. WashingtonRedstorms says: Sep 30, 2009 8:00 PM

    Al Davis a genius.

  22. jeremyb91 says: Sep 30, 2009 8:06 PM

    Had the Raiders just released Moss and he went to another team we could be talking about a whole different story. But because he was traded for a 4th round pick it somehow gets more significance?
    Moss wanted out and was going to get out regardless. The Raiders realized the only way he would help the team would be by leaving via trade for whatever the team could salvage out of him.
    Moss was no different than T.O. and his tantrums and fits had to go. He was the first big straw to go after Al fired Shell and decided to make a complete makeover of his offense. Only one starter remains and he’s switched positions, Robert Gallery.
    Unfortunately Moss did better when he got to a place that is winning. Moss could never play for a rebuilding squad and that’s exactly what was going to happen prior to the ’07 season so he whined and b*tched his way out.
    If you honestly think the Raiders could’ve got more, please explain what team back then was willing to take a chance on him besides NE? You can’t because he was considered a cancer and Oakland was considered fleeced when they traded a 1st round pick and Napolean Harris for him. Oakland was the only team willing to pay the price for him. When Oakland tried dealing him NO ONE was going to offer a first or second round pick for him. It wasn’t going to happen.

  23. Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam says: Sep 30, 2009 8:10 PM

    Bottom line: Neither Moss nor Bowie did anything to help the Raiders. Glad both are gone.

  24. DcNinerFan says: Sep 30, 2009 9:01 PM

    THIS JUST IN. THE RAIDERS SUCK.
    Thats all you need to write the rest of the season, Greg. Simple headline, saves space.

  25. Dmacattack says: Sep 30, 2009 9:06 PM

    To this day it still baffles me why the Raiders get laughed at for this. IMO it’s the other 30 teams who weren’t smart enough to offer more than a 4th round pick for one of the greatest wr’s of all-time. It’s not like the Raiders turned down a better offer to send him to the Pats. If I remember correctly the Packers were the only other team who was interested and Mr. Favre wanted him badly.
    This is a joke on the rest of the league not the Raiders.
    Pats – Moss
    Raiders – 4th rounder
    30 other teams – nothing

  26. stefanovich says: Sep 30, 2009 9:07 PM

    I love all these people calling Moss a “quitter” while he leads the NFL in receptions. That includes a 10-catch day while he played with an injured back.
    Keep it up haters. Moss isn’t going to quit on the Patriots. He’ll be having another great season with Tom Brady, and you all know it, and you’re jealous of it. And that’s why you secretly hope with your deepest, dumbest heart that Moss will somehow, some way, singlehandedly tank the Patriots offense.
    But it’s just too bad for you, isn’t it? Moss is on the Hall of Fame train, and it doesn’t matter if Ingle Martin is throwing him the ball. As long as he’s a Patriot, his next stop is a first-ballot trip to Canton, OH.

  27. An Idle Thought or Two says: Sep 30, 2009 9:16 PM

    As a war veteran old enough to remember WWII, I’m not sure what to say when an “ItalianArmyGuy” comments on anything regarding getting “some sack”.

  28. TheBigOldDog says: Sep 30, 2009 9:42 PM

    Hey, I hear the Pats are going to cut Moss or trade him to Minnesota to play with Favre because he’s been dogging it on the field. Shhh…keep it under your hat! Bwahahaha

  29. Ken1313 says: Sep 30, 2009 9:53 PM

    ItalianArmy guy continues to spew his one sided moronic statements across the site….we get it dude..you are a terrible towel waiving Steeler fan…you are also dillusional. The Patriots have won more games than any team in football since the Moss trade. You DO realize that it’s only been TWO seasons since that trade was made right? You make it sound like it’s been 10 years.
    Let’s see..the Patriots went 16-0, lost in th eSuper Bowl….and then went 11-5 with Brady missing the entire season……. If you can pull your tongue out of Hines ward’s @$$ for a minute…Try and I stress..TRY not to make yourself look like a moron every time you post Darth Jay is right..you look more and more stupid with every word you type.
    Try to praise your own team without insulting every othe rteam or player in the league….you just look (again) like a moron when you continue to do that. Here, let me save you the time of replying…I will type up your reply for you no….ready…
    Italian Army Guy says ” Hines ward….mmmm I love him..he rules….Steelers rule….Raiders suck, Patriots suck, Titans Suck, Jets Suck, Broncos suck, Colts suck, Peyton Manning sucks, Reggie Wayne sucks….quick break to waive my ridiculous Terrible Towel…ok..back to work….Cowboys suck, T.O. sucks, Larry Fitzgerald sucks, Kurt warner sucks…..MMMMM Big Ben’s balls taste good…..Tony Romo sucks, Brett Favre sucks, Adrian Peterson sucks…..EVERYONE sucks that doesn’t wear a Steelers uniform.
    There….now you can rest and not post a response…we’ve heard it all before….fool
    Darth Jay says: September 30, 2009 7:37 PM
    The more and more I read, the more and more I realize that ItalianArmyGuy is the single dumbest poster on this site.
    The Patriots front office has forgotten more about building a winner then you will ever know. Get a clue.
    ================
    And yet you have zero titles with Moss-Brady “the greatest two players of all time”, blah blah blah…
    In the meantime, Hines Ward just added some bling to his collection.
    Maybe YOU should get a clue – Toughness counts in the NFL, and blue collar guys like Ward are what you need for championships

  30. Frank says: Sep 30, 2009 10:33 PM

    Guys,
    If you haven’t figured it out by now, let me fill you in:
    The so-called “ItalianArmyGuy” is actually a woman. A big-assed, steambag of a woman from Pittsburgh (a.k.a. biggest red-neck city in the country) who dreams of swinging at the end of Hines Ward’s machine. She used to service Franco Harris but he left that shithole of a city years ago.
    Keep it up lady. We enjoy laughing at you.

  31. ItalianArmyGuy says: Sep 30, 2009 10:33 PM

    @Ken – you write too much, it hurts my eyes to try to read all that gibberish. A simple “I hate you IAG, I wish my Pats had some tough guys like Hines Ward, James Harrison, and Ryan Clark” will do just fine.

  32. Burritto says: Sep 30, 2009 10:50 PM

    “Bowie the player Oakland selected with the pick acquired for Moss.”
    Me like article.

  33. TFBuckFutter says: Oct 1, 2009 7:58 AM

    They waived/injured him?
    They couldn’t just waive him? Man, Tom Cable is a diiiiiiicccckkkk.

  34. jb10 says: Oct 1, 2009 4:45 PM

    # stefanovich says: September 30, 2009 9:07 PM
    I love all these people calling Moss a “quitter” while he leads the NFL in receptions. That includes a 10-catch day while he played with an injured back.
    Keep it up haters. Moss isn’t going to quit on the Patriots. He’ll be having another great season with Tom Brady, and you all know it, and you’re jealous of it. And that’s why you secretly hope with your deepest, dumbest heart that Moss will somehow, some way, singlehandedly tank the Patriots offense.
    But it’s just too bad for you, isn’t it? Moss is on the Hall of Fame train, and it doesn’t matter if Ingle Martin is throwing him the ball. As long as he’s a Patriot, his next stop is a first-ballot trip to Canton, OH.
    _______________________
    well the truth is randy moss is starting to dog it in ne. go watch the old vikings tapes and the raiders tapes. he i now doing the exact same things in ne as he did in both those places. i wouldn’t really can moss a quitter, more like a half a$$ed. gives effort when HE thinks he needs to.
    seriously go watch some tape.

  35. eklypse69 says: Oct 1, 2009 5:19 PM

    LiPo says:
    September 30, 2009 7:06 PM
    To theTRUTH:
    “You are just bitter you lost Moss for nothing. Moss is an outstanding player and at times has been immature.
    But its not Moss its the Raiders. I would try to do everything I could to get traded from the Raiders if I was on that POS team too.
    When Moss was with the Raiders the OL was 3x as bad as it is now and the QBs were terrible as well.”
    No, I’m afraid you are mistaken. It WAS Moss. Look back at his early days in Minnesota. Half-assing it down the field when he knew the play wasn’t coming to him, walking off the field before the game was even over because they were losing, talking smack to reporters, trying to run down a meter maid, pretending to moon the crowd in Green Bay and flipping off hecklers, not showing up for OTAs, and this was all BEFORE he came to Oakland, when he was regaled as one of the greatest wide recievers in the league.
    Bottom line on Moss is as soon as the team starts to lose games, everyone stops kissing his butt, shining his shoes, and heralding him as the greatest thing since sliced bread, he quits on the team and runs them into the ground, because the cold hard fact is the only team he plays for is team Randy Moss.

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