Comments on: Garcia says he'd return to Oakland, as the starter

By: CliveRush

CliveRush — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 12:30:16 +0000

There is no I in team. Kids in middle school learn this. It must be one of the reasons that teams unload this talent player after a season. His job is not to evaluate and critique the team but to try and lead. Chad Pennington would never have said these words.

By: Bwa Ha Ha

Bwa Ha Ha — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 06:17:04 +0000

I won’t pretend that I know why, but there is a reason that Jeff Garcia can’t stick with a team. He couldn’t when he was younger and stronger, and he can’t now even though he says a lot of things that are publicly popular. There still has to be something that causes him to end up leaving teams. I THINK it’s because he tries to undermine the QB that is starting, or the coach that made that call.

By: Lost

Lost — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:50:57 +0000

Yeah, Jeff’s got a real thin resume.
Four-time CFL All-Star and four-time NFL Pro Bowl. Grey Cup winner. And he’s been written off more times than that.
Every team he’s played with has improved with him as pivot. But now he’s just made the mistake of being honest about what he found in Oakland and why he couldn’t in good conscience just hold the clipboard and cash his checks. Ask his former O-line whether Garcia is the real item.
That Raider fan who’s not prepared to dump on Gannon just looking to find a new outlet for their frustration

By: Ghost2thePost

Ghost2thePost — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 02:08:36 +0000

Listen, the Raiders have been beyond awful the last two weeks. All fears after the NO preseason game are being realized, but Garcia had zero chance to effect any change. He is AWFUL. A very good arguement could be made that JaMarcus was better than him Last year. Tremendous respect for making it in the league at his size, but it is over. He said all the right things when he signed too, then did nothing to push JaMarcus.
Insane as it sounds to miss a guy with less than 20 catches, but Chaz Schillens would have been a tremendous help the past three weeks. Best thing about JaMarcus is that stuff rolls right off him. If they lose 12 games again and he plays consistantly like he did the last 6 weeks of 08, the year is a success. He needs a heaping dose of Michael Bush running this week and snaps the rest of the way . He just went over 500 passes last week. With the lack of WR’s he’s played with and a defense that can’t stop the run, it’s way too soon to decide if he’s a bust. If he stays healthy the rest of the way, he’ll finish the season w/ 32 starts. That should be a good enough sample to decide if he’ll make it or not.

By: SwedishMurderMachine

SwedishMurderMachine — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 01:01:57 +0000

Maybe if Garcia wanted to lead the Raiders so bad he shouldn’t have QUIT THE TEAM like a butt hurt baby when he wasn’t named the starter right away.
This sounds like a bunch of BS self promotion to me. If he knew Russel wasn’t ready to be a starting QB then he also should have known that he would be needed to pick up the pieces at some point. He already had his chance and he quit.

By: Obeah

Obeah — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:58:36 +0000

I don’t think Garcia needs the money, so tell Davis the way he will play, and may be Davis in one of his few lucid moments will agree

By: ognee

ognee — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:28:53 +0000

Razor sharp words from a man once inside. I hear him entirely, but I do believe that winning cures all. So let’s see what the new few weeks accompany in the win-loss column for the Oakland Raiders.

By: Ripp

Ripp — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:14:53 +0000

I am sorry but if Garcia was truly a team player he would still be on the team supporting Russell even if he felt he should be the starter. The other thing is that a young QB can learn only so much from the side line. After that you have to have that young QB go through those growing pains that Garcia talked about. This is where you find out if that young QB is you answer to the most important position or not. Russell has been riding the pine for three years now how much more do you think he can learn from there? So I ask the raiders fans of the world would you rather find out if Russell is your QB for the next ten years or waste another two on a QB who at best will take you to a wild card game? I don’t know about you but I like my questions answered.

By: WCRaider

WCRaider — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:08:07 +0000

For a guy, Garcia, who talked about be willing to help a young QB to mature, he was certainly absent most all of training camp from any of the meetings while his calf muscle was “injured”. I guess the injury also affected his mental processes as well.

By: entelechy3

entelechy3 — Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:05:04 +0000

So, I took the liberty of running Garcia’s rant through a football-cliche-to-English dictionary, and I’ve got the translation ready:
“Sure, I’d love to quarterback the team. However, before I do, let me just completely subvert the current quarterback, throw an unspecified number of the team under the bus for being selfish and lazy, and remind everyone just how ass-kickingly awesome I was last time I was here, even though I’m really old and completely bailed because it was so horrible here and they hurt my feelings.
Ok! All ready to start for your team now!”

By: xacvol

xacvol — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:15:48 +0000

I dont think its all Russells fault, he didnt draft himself at number 1….lets see how the Raiders and the boys in the war room are doing in past drafts:
2004 Robert Gallery with the 2nd…could of had Larry Fitz at 3 or Rivers at 4…
2005 traded the 7th, DeMarcus Ware at 11, Merriman at 12, drafted Fabian Washington at 23…with Aaron Rogers at 24, Roddy White at 27…
2006 Michael Huff with the 6th….could of had Cutler at 11, Haloti Ngata at 12, Deangelo Williams at 27…
2007 Jamarcus Russell at 1, with Calvin Johnson at 2, AP at 7, Patrick Willis at 11
2008 McFadden at the 4 spot, with Matt Ryan at 4…well you get the picture.
Now I know that no one is a all seeing future telling wizard, but guys that get paid to run a NFL team should have a better record (was Matt Millin secretly working for da Raideas?).
I feel for you Raiders Fan and I hope your dedication to your team will be paid back sooner than later, but just think about this:
2004 Larry Fitzgerald
2005 DaMarcus Ware
2006 Jay Cutler
2007 Calvin Johnson
2008 McFadden (well, I liked this pick)

By: Tdk24

Tdk24 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:12:42 +0000

As much as I like the heart and drive of Garcia, the fact is that he had a bad calf and missed all of camp. He was barely healthy enough to play late in preseason. If he’s good to go now, give him the keys and let him prove he can walk the walk.

By: CYGNUS X-1

CYGNUS X-1 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 23:10:44 +0000

again it’s amazing that this site is the only place you are reading about what a total bust russell is.look at what happened to grossman who was not the first pick in the draft and compare it to how lightly russell is getting off in the national media.it’s like because he plays in oakland it’s ok they suck.hey it’s not ok he was paid what 40 million to make them better!and while 1 guy can’t do it all, is it to much to ask that you actualy be able to throw the ball to your recievers more than once a quarter?

By: kibbles

kibbles — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:51:36 +0000

Redskins of the west

By: masterblaster78

masterblaster78 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:46:06 +0000

Garcia is the next coach. Sign Garcia, bench lardass and let him watch a seasoned QB play. Garcia will light a fire up under the underacheivers butts. He surely can’t do any worse than (who’s that over paid QB the Raiders signed 3 years ago?) the starter. I still say Kelly should be benched also for underachievement and overpaid. Put Walker in as a WR what harm will it do? The season is shot already I’m afraid. Al is to blind in his old age to see what is truely happening. The Raiders are falling more apart with each year.

By: flowerpot1929

flowerpot1929 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:30:57 +0000

What Garcia, in his rush to promote himself as the highly motivated, consummate professional, does not seem to grasp is that success begins off the field (front office) before it manifest on the field.
For the most part, what a team does on the field over a period of time is reflective of the administrators i.e. coaches, managers, owners etc.

By: rjgreen3

rjgreen3 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:17:20 +0000

Sounds like Garcia should go back to da Raiders to coach and QB them also. He definately see’s more than Cable! After Cable gets out of jail, maybe Garcia will hire him to break some jaws!

By: SmackMyVickUp

SmackMyVickUp — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:14:17 +0000

“It was to a point where I felt like guys who walked through those doors that just were there to collect a check”
Think he just killed any chance he had of returning to the Raiders with that comment.

By: INVAIDUH

INVAIDUH — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:10:33 +0000

i wanted them to draft CJ.
growing pains…meh. let’s hope.

By: magsdad1

magsdad1 — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:07:30 +0000

Wow, just……….wow.
That locker room is really a mess.

By: wallyworld

wallyworld — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:04:29 +0000

check this website on what this reporter has to say about Garcia's stint with the Raiders. I think it will change a few minds http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2009/10/02/garcias-miscalculation/#more-7182

By: rdteixeira

rdteixeira — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:58:14 +0000

As a longtime Raider this really depresses me. I didn’t expect Garcia to be the second-coming of Gannon, but I thought he was going to be given a fair shot at competing. I thought MAYBE Al was so desperate to win that he would bench 30 million for a year or two, and go with a proven vet.
In my dreams when Al finally “goes” his son will sell the second the team is his…and the new owners will be…Steve Young and Brent Jones…they’ve tried to buy an NFL team in the past…it would freak out 49er fans and immediately make the Raiders relevant again. A guy can dream can’t he?

By: seatofmypants

seatofmypants — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:53:45 +0000

Calgary Stampeders (1994–1998)
San Francisco 49ers (1999–2003)
Cleveland Browns (2004)
Detroit Lions (2005)
Philadelphia Eagles (2006)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2007–2008)
Oakland Raiders (2009)
Philadelphia Eagles (2009)
Yeah, this is someone who really knows clubhouses, since he never seems to last anywhere for a long time.
Garcia was signed to be the backup in Oakland. When it became evident to him that he was not going to start, he bailed on them.
As dysfunctional as the Raiders are, my guess is that Garcia is not really a team guy – and they are better off without him

By: bucsfan

bucsfan — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:47:18 +0000

Becareful what you wish for Raider fans we heard the same kind of talk from Garcia in Tampa. Yet when the chips were down he did what was best for him not the team. He waited till the last minute to let the coaches know he was hurt and not let them prep the backup for a game. Then he said he was too hurt to play. Where was his leadership in the 4 game losing streak. All he kept doing was blaming the other players when he couldn’t hit open wide receivers.

By: BasicInstinct

BasicInstinct — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:39:47 +0000

Garcia is a stud!! He is a proven winner.
If Oakland doesn’t sign him, they are crazy.
He wants to lead the team….
For that alone, he deserves the job!

By: Vox's Mommy

Vox's Mommy — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:35:23 +0000

LOL ItalianArmyGuy. Me too bro….me too.

By: xacvol

xacvol — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:27:17 +0000

The fella (Ressell) has already been paid…you just need to give him incentives…You heard of “Cash for Clunkers”, how bout “Cheeseburgers for Touchdowns”…..ummmmm, cheeseburgers…

By: leatherneck

leatherneck — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:24:57 +0000

The Raiders could have been dangerous this year.
Fortunately, Al Davis wants his draft pick to play.

By: bucco bruce

bucco bruce — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:24:16 +0000

Well, I agree with Jeff, JaMarcus Russell isn’t ready to be a starting quarterback. And IMO, may never be ready.
However, when Garcia says, he feels “many players walk through the doors just to collect a paycheck” and yet he’s expressed interest to play there again? Yes, Garcia has been a great backup player and was gutty as hell for the Bucs but come on, the resume is thin my man. Favres’ weak arm at 40 was stronger than yours’ at 25. I am starting to see that you believe your press from 3 years ago than your critics currently.
Jeff, grab a pizza, throw in a DVD of For Love of The Game, relish the fact you have a beautiful family and just let it go. Times up. You overcame some major obstacles in your career, but age is one we all can’t overcome. Wish you the best, but simply hang it up.

By: JMClarkent

JMClarkent — Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:19:58 +0000

As Raider fans, we need Russell to shoot himself in the leg in a NY club, or at least dabble into dog fighting…